Calories burned while grocery shopping

I don't think so, regular activity like that is already part of your TDEE.

I am inclined to believe your answer as it seems like you know your stuff and that you know what you are talking about simply because of the skill with which you wear your swimwear.

Agree, we have finally encountered a true expert. Masterful use of spot color, too. I'm sold.

your actual TDEE is how many calories you really burn so everything you do from shopping to sleeping forms part of it.
The value set in MFP used to calculate your daily requirements is based on a guess of how many calories you will burn in a day . This is derived from a formula which gives a population average resting calorie burn + a population average burn based on the guess of lifestyle you put in. For me I put sedentary and the MFP value is only a couple hundred over the value I would use if I was in bed. When I do this almost any activity is addition to this. I could book a more energy consuming lifestyle but that doesn't seem as accurate as putting the lowest and then adding everything. These numbers are only ever guesses though. I check mine by plotting my weight and ensuring that over time (monthly) the drop is what MFP predicts. I can then tweak what I add or not to the daily usage to fine tune it. This works. I've kept a constant 2lb a week loss for nearly 4 months :-)

No. How much walking are you really doing? Most of the time, I walk down the aisle and stand there for a few seconds to find what I'm looking for, walk a few more feet, repeat. Not worth the time to calculate it.

One of us doesn't understand what is included in the "sedentary" setting.

(...and it may be me.)

The basics of a sedentary setting:

Sleeping - 8 hours
Personal care (dressing, showering) - 1 hour
Eating - 1 hour
Cooking - 1 hour
Sitting (office work, selling produce, tending shop) - 8 hours
Driving car to/from work - 1 hour
General household work - 1 hour
Light leisure activities (watching TV, chatting) - 3 hours

Oh then is there a negative sedentary mode? B/c I don't work, and sometimes my husband cooks, and sometimes I don't even have to do the "light housework" it gets done by someone who is not me. Is there like a Negentary mode (negative sedentary)? Or a spa mode or something?

You're probably one of the people who can get away with eating at 100 calories over BMR then and does your husband have an unmarried brother hanging around?

Here's my fitbit data from today so far. I spent the morning mostly at the computer, an hour swimming (moderate effort but not constant or intense) and then went grocery shopping, drove home and made dinner.

Notice that I am burning about three times as any calories by simply being upright and standing/walking than I am when sitting around or driving. (I've been using the fitbit since January and it has been within a few percent of my TDEE.)

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So I burn about 100 extra calories in the process of grocery shopping or cooking a dinner, compared to what I would have by just sitting down the whole time. Whether you count your baseline as "sedentary" and add on those activities, or just adjust your TDEE upward assuming those activities are predictably a part of your routine, is totally up to you. But the important part is yes grocery shopping burns more calories than sitting around.

Here's my fitbit data from today so far. I spent the morning mostly at the computer, an hour swimming (moderate effort but not constant or intense) and then went grocery shopping, drove home and made dinner.

Notice that I am burning about three times as any calories by simply being upright and standing/walking than I am when sitting around or driving. (I've been using the fitbit since January and it has been within a few percent of my TDEE.)

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So I burn about 100 extra calories in the process of grocery shopping or cooking a dinner, compared to what I would have by just sitting down the whole time. Whether you count your baseline as "sedentary" and add on those activities, or just adjust your TDEE upward assuming those activities are predictably a part of your routine, is totally up to you. But the important part is yes grocery shopping burns more calories than sitting around.

For clarity, your swimming burn is an estimate provided by fitbit for the manual entry...(unless you've figured out a way to wear it while swimming).

Yessir. I used MFP's "swimming, moderate effort" for this one.

Although I have considered stuffing it in a ziploc bag. :laugh:

Here's my fitbit data from today so far. I spent the morning mostly at the computer, an hour swimming (moderate effort but not constant or intense) and then went grocery shopping, drove home and made dinner.

Notice that I am burning about three times as any calories by simply being upright and standing/walking than I am when sitting around or driving. (I've been using the fitbit since January and it has been within a few percent of my TDEE.)

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So I burn about 100 extra calories in the process of grocery shopping or cooking a dinner, compared to what I would have by just sitting down the whole time. Whether you count your baseline as "sedentary" and add on those activities, or just adjust your TDEE upward assuming those activities are predictably a part of your routine, is totally up to you. But the important part is yes grocery shopping burns more calories than sitting around.

For clarity, your swimming burn is an estimate provided by fitbit for the manual entry...(unless you've figured out a way to wear it while swimming).

Yessir. I used MFP's "swimming, moderate effort" for this one.

Although I have considered stuffing it in a ziploc bag. :laugh:

I logged my 5k race last week manually in runkeeper (as I didn't carry my phone in the race) which then synced w/ fitbit. When I reviewed the data, I initially thought that I had some remarkably consistent splits based on the fitbit data alone...until I realized that it was essentially a manual entry from runkeeper. Once I cleared the record, I could see that I was still really consistent, just not *as* consistent as I originally thought.

And yeah, I'd consider the waterproof bag too...except that the "step" count would be entirely irrelevant (at least until they add a swimming stroke setting).

I do that too, but I never count that. Main reason for me is regardless how long the shopping is, it doesn't raise my heart rate enough to be consider counting. Just eat your other exercise calories (including gardening, cause I found out, with HRM, it does raise my heart rate when I'm digging around, etc)

Very wise! I often think people are looking for a way to eat more and not feel bad about it...ha ha...if you run a marathon once a year..count it...but walking to your car everyday for work for example..ummmmm no.

I vote for counting it! I, too, have a sedentary job and shop once a month. I just logged less than the actual time spent. I log housework when I do it consistently, as well. I figure any movement is more than I usually do so what the heck! I found this and hope it helps!
http://health.howstuffworks.com/wellness/diet-fitness/information/20-everyday-activities-and-the-calories-they-burn.htm

https://www.fitday.com/webfit/burned/calories_burned_Food_shopping_with_grocery_cart.html

I shop about 3 hours every other Sunday...it certainly is a work out. if you go to fitday and enter your weight age and height it will give you caloric burn. I am always exhausted when I get home.

weight watchers counts shopping an activity, because it is outside of your normal routine. They gave extra points for shopping, not as many as if you were walking for working out but some extra. So I think count it. The #1 plan in America can't be all wrong.

Weight Watchers also doesn't count fruit.....considering that most people over-estimate caloric expenditure exercising and under-estimate intake this is almost guaranteed to end up as one of the zillion "Why am I not losing?" threads........

Here's my fitbit data from today so far. I spent the morning mostly at the computer, an hour swimming (moderate effort but not constant or intense) and then went grocery shopping, drove home and made dinner.

Notice that I am burning about three times as any calories by simply being upright and standing/walking than I am when sitting around or driving. (I've been using the fitbit since January and it has been within a few percent of my TDEE.)

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So I burn about 100 extra calories in the process of grocery shopping or cooking a dinner, compared to what I would have by just sitting down the whole time. Whether you count your baseline as "sedentary" and add on those activities, or just adjust your TDEE upward assuming those activities are predictably a part of your routine, is totally up to you. But the important part is yes grocery shopping burns more calories than sitting around.

For clarity, your swimming burn is an estimate provided by fitbit for the manual entry...(unless you've figured out a way to wear it while swimming).

Yessir. I used MFP's "swimming, moderate effort" for this one.

Although I have considered stuffing it in a ziploc bag. :laugh:

I shove my fitbit in little 2*3 zip top baggies (2 of them!) when I go in the pool. Not to count swimming, but I want the steps I get, which can often be a fair bit as I play with the kids, chase or be chased, climb out, jump in, etc!

ETA: Also, I will often walk laps around the shallow end of our L-shaped pool. 30 steps a lap times 30-40 laps at a moderately brisk pace. It's an extra 900-1200 steps and with resistance too (the water is belly-button deep on me!) The kids think this is funny and the younger three (ie, all but the teenager) will often walk all or part of it with me.

whats MFP'S?? I see a lot of people writing that

I get up to go pee a lot during the work day. (I drink a lot of fluid, think a gallon+ of water plus 6 cups of coffee, 2-4 sodas and 2 montsters). So maybe 10 trips to the bathroom. Anyone got a cal count on that?

ETA: It's about 150 feet to the bathroom so that's 300 feet round trip.

Unless you work at a grocery store this post is OFF TOPIC and I just reported you for hijacking. Please go start your own bathroom trip calories thread.

I was woundering same thing!! I have 28 steps that lead down to my house an back up to my car. I made 10 -13 trips back and 4th I was sweating massive. i'm really wanting to know this too I t it should burn a great deal grocery shopping

I admit I haven't read this whole thread because I find counting grocery shopping calories as laughable EXCEPT in your case! Yeah, that many stairs, that many trips, and that many bags?! That should count as something, IMHO.