i don't judge obese people

I am simply saying that it's bad to be fat and that if someone is fat they should try to lose weight.

So, what if I told you that all of my most important health markers are well within the "good" ranges, I lift like a boss, crossfit several days a week, and carry at least 40 extra pounds for my height per BMI charts. What part of all of that is bad?

I ask this because you would look at me, see that I am fat (and gross, let's not forget that part) and assume that my being fat is bad. In what way?

xxantiheroxx- next time you run into a fat person or someone with a physical abnormality in the real world, make sure and tell them how gross you think that is and that they should get some plastic surgery. make sure and tell them it's nothing personal and you're totally not judging them as person, but really that's gross man. throw money at that problem and make it go away.

or if you see a 12 year old girl that's maybe a little husky(that's always what people called us-husky) make sure and tell her how gross that tummy is or her thighs. and then make sure and pat yourself on the back for planting the seeds of an eating disorder. it'll be one less gross fatty you have to look at.

you may not ever think of it when you spew opinions into virtual space- but those words no matter what the intent- can destroy someone.
you missed the point of this thread. it is supposed to be positive, encouraging and helpful. your opinion on fat being gross is none of those things. at all. you can't pick apart a person and accept one thing and not another. it's not your burden to bear in the first place. a person is a whole package, lumps stumps warts and fat- but they come with a heart too and feelings. and a lot of those feelings happen to be self-hate and guilt for those things you are calling gross. the body acceptance movement isn't about "i'm here i'm fat deal with it." it's about finding the strength to love yourself in spite of those things so maybe you can change them.

I am simply saying that it's bad to be fat and that if someone is fat they should try to lose weight.

So, what if I told you that all of my most important health markers are well within the "good" ranges, I lift like a boss, crossfit several days a week, and carry at least 40 extra pounds for my height per BMI charts. What part of all of that is bad?

I ask this because you would look at me, see that I am fat (and gross, let's not forget that part) and assume that my being fat is bad. In what way?

I would tell you that everyone knows BMI is a bs scale, and go get a bf% test of some reputable accuracy done.

I won't be a smart *kitten*, on this one and tell you that I know quite a bit about Hitler, WWII, and Germany. I'm absolutely fascinated by history. But case in point, you made my case for me, by the logic that you present, that *fat* people are gross. You showed that the Supreme Chancellor of Germany, a man, that, for all intents and purposes was considered to be of average height and weight, and by your standards would be considered "not gross", was yet, a vile, heinous human being, not because of the way that he looked, not because of his body, any part of his body, or the package that came with him, but because of the acts that he, and his inner circle carried out. Now, you know who Adolf Hitler was. You know the heinous acts that he and his inner circle orchestrated and committed. The average person, walking down the street. We know nothing about them. We don't know if they have bodies under their homes, or if they are running a soup kitchen for the poor. We don't know their hearts. If they are obese, we don't know the reason. If they have scars, we don't know why. If they have a deformity, we don't know the cause.

The point I'm making, it took me a great many years to look beyond myself and realize there a hell of a lot more people on this earth than just me. People go through things that I can't even fathom. My worst day on this earth, may be the best day that someone is praying for. I don't know their struggles and successes, and I sure can't tell by looking at them. I have zero room to look at another human being and judge who they are, or what they've been through, simply by what they look like. I constantly remind myself of this if I find myself making a judgement when I'm looking at a person. There are times, and often, I do see people and wonder what their stories are, what they've been through, what they are going through, are they happy, and various other questions, simply because I am a curious person by nature, but until someone actually opens their mouth, and speaks, and lets me in on who they are, what they believe, and where they stand on things, I do my best to reserve judgement.

I am simply saying that it's bad to be fat and that if someone is fat they should try to lose weight.

So, what if I told you that all of my most important health markers are well within the "good" ranges, I lift like a boss, crossfit several days a week, and carry at least 40 extra pounds for my height per BMI charts. What part of all of that is bad?

I ask this because you would look at me, see that I am fat (and gross, let's not forget that part) and assume that my being fat is bad. In what way?

I'd really have to look at you to know what I would think, but I will assume for your hypothetical that you look fat, which I find unattractive. There is no good reason for someone to be 40+ lbs overweight that I can think of.

I would probably think, "This person is fat and needs to lose weight". I would assume that you were at least slightly unhealthier if you didn't tell me "I'm in perfect health" (and who knows, you could be lying anyways, either to me or yourself), and I would think, "this person should lose some weight to be healthier/have more confidence/be more attractive/have more energy".

Or I might not think anything at all. It all depends on how you carry it, I guess. I certainly wouldn't compliment you on being overweight, unless you used to be REALLY overweight and had lost some weight and were in the process of trying to lose weight, in which case I would compliment you on your progress and tell you to keep it up!

I won't be a smart *kitten*, on this one and tell you that I know quite a bit about Hitler, WWII, and Germany. I'm absolutely fascinated by history. But case in point, you made my case for me, by the logic that you present, that *fat* people are gross. You showed that the Supreme Chancellor of Germany, a man, that, for all intents and purposes was considered to be of average height and weight, and by your standards would be considered "not gross", was yet, a vile, heinous human being, not because of the way that he looked, not because of his body, any part of his body, or the package that came with him, but because of the acts that he, and his inner circle carried out. Now, you know who Adolf Hitler was. You know the heinous acts that he and his inner circle orchestrated and committed. The average person, walking down the street. We know nothing about them. We don't know if they have bodies under their homes, or if they are running a soup kitchen for the poor. We don't know their hearts. If they are obese, we don't know the reason. If they have scars, we don't know why. If they have a deformity, we don't know the cause.

The point I'm making, it took me a great many years to look beyond myself and realize there a hell of a lot more people on this earth than just me. People go through things that I can't even fathom. My worst day on this earth, may be the best day that someone is praying for. I don't know their struggles and successes, and I sure can't tell by looking at them. I have zero room to look at another human being and judge who they are, or what they've been through, simply by what they look like. I constantly remind myself of this if I find myself making a judgement when I'm looking at a person. There are times, and often, I do see people and wonder what their stories are, what they've been through, what they are going through, are they happy, and various other questions, simply because I am a curious person by nature, but until someone actually opens their mouth, and speaks, and lets me in on who they are, what they believe, and where they stand on things, I do my best to reserve judgement.

Well we are in agreement on this and I have never implied otherwise. I have consistently maintained that it is the fat that is gross, not necessarily the people.

For some reason you think that the "fat" and the "people" can't be separated, but it's quite obvious they can; just head on over to success stories and see for yourself.

Do I think that fat people are gross? No. I think fat is gross, so yes I do think that fat people have at least 1 gross attribute. Their fat. I am fully supportive of anyone who is fat who is working to eliminate their fat. I don't judge them. They are fat, that is a fact. I find fat gross, that is also a fact. Thus, I think fat people should work to lose fat.

It has nothing to do with the type of person they are. I am not demanding that they hide themselves from my sight. I am not even asking them to lose weight. I just think it would be in everyone's best interest if they did.

If anyone is happy being fat and doesn't like my opinion that fat people should lose fat, tough titties for me. It's no skin off my back and it won't be the first time I have had a difference of opinion with someone.

Again, and again, and again, and again... and again, I do not judge people based on their weight.