Can Not Loose Weight
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Lol, if something is heavier by volume than another object it is denser. Shake your head all you want but, physics!
Heavier is just another way of saying that an object is denser!!with all that exercise, liable to have a lot of muscle mass, which weighs twice as heavy as fat does.
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Muscle is more dense, not heavier
So if you have a pound of muscle and a pound of fat in front of you, would you say the muscle was heavier?0 -
Yes!!! I would definitely look at upping to 1600. Even if only for a couple days. Your body will hold onto everything it can if it thinks it's starving!! If it is starving, it will start eating muscle, which will hurt your metabolism even more.
I think this is a myth, no?
If she was under weight or close to ideal weight, then yes... but at her weight, eating 1200 calories a day, is not under eating enough to impact her metabolism. Something else is going on here.
Even if you had a really severe thyroid disorder, at the worst case would be up to -10% slower BMR.
If I had to guess, guesstimating on your diary entries are wrong/inaccurate.0 -
Lol, if something is heavier by volume than another object it is denser. Shake your head all you want but, physics!
Heavier is just another way of saying that an object is denser!!with all that exercise, liable to have a lot of muscle mass, which weighs twice as heavy as fat does.
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Muscle is more dense, not heavier
So if you have a pound of muscle and a pound of fat in front of you, would you say the muscle was heavier?
One is not heavier than the other.
You just said " a pound of muscle and a pound of fat"
A pound is a fixed measurement....
You will have more fat in front of you than muscle though......that is density0 -
I wouldn't try to determine if one was heavier if the only info I had was the weight of the two items. When you comparing weight you are comparing by equal volume. It's kinda how it works if you want real data.
Lol, if something is heavier by volume than another object it is denser. Shake your head all you want but, physics!
Heavier is just another way of saying that an object is denser!!with all that exercise, liable to have a lot of muscle mass, which weighs twice as heavy as fat does.
:huh: :huh: :huh: :huh: :huh: :noway: :noway: :noway: :noway: :noway: :noway:
Muscle is more dense, not heavier
So if you have a pound of muscle and a pound of fat in front of you, would you say the muscle was heavier?0 -
I wouldn't try to determine if one was heavier if the only info I had was the weight of the two items. When you comparing weight you are comparing by equal volume. It's kinda how it works if you want real data.
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You don't have to determine which was heavier.
They are both 1 pound......
Their weight has already been established.
The amount of space they take up is different.
So muscle is more dense than fat.
Equal weight in muscle and fat having been established.....the fat will take up more space than the muscle will.0 -
I see a lot of stupid comments from those obviously oblivious to the fact that the body becomes resistant to weight loss when it thinks its starving. Just because she weighs 220 pounds doesn’t mean her body doesn’t think she’s emaciating herself.
In any case, asking on a forum is not terribly intelligent as you're getting the advice from illegitimate sources. If you're having problems you should speak to a doctor and a nutritionist with a medical degree (not the idiot working at a health food store).
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I see a lot of stupid comments from those obviously oblivious to the fact that the body becomes resistant to weight loss when it thinks its starving. Just because she weighs 220 pounds doesn’t mean her body doesn’t think she’s emaciating herself.
It doesn't become resistant to weight loss.....
The body just slows down the metabolism.....
You will still lose weight if you take in less calories than you need....that's all.
The equation is constant, the variables will change.0 -
Yes absolutely, but the flip of that equation is also true. If you have 1cubic inch of fat and one cubic inch of muscle which will weigh more? The muscle, because it is denser. Thus muscle, by volume,(which is implied) weighs more than fat. Shrug*I wouldn't try to determine if one was heavier if the only info I had was the weight of the two items. When you comparing weight you are comparing by equal volume. It's kinda how it works if you want real data.
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You don't have to determine which was heavier.
They are both 1 pound......
Their weight has already been established.
The amount of space they take up is different.
So muscle is more dense than fat.
Equal weight in muscle and fat having been established.....the fat will take up more space than the muscle will.0 -
I quit smoking 4 years ago and also gained about 26 lbs. Everyone I know gained when quitting smoking, they say the toxins/chemicals in cigarettes speed up your metabolism when you quit you gain weight.
You did a great thing (hardest thing to do is to quit smoking), there is a light at the end of tunnel after about 12-15 months my body adjusted to not having the cigarettes and I was able to take off the weight. The weight gain/loss timeline was about the same for 2 friends and a sister (all in late thirties to early forties) Looking back the weight gain/loss and struggles was worth it because I am no longer a smoker.
Best of luck to you!0 -
Yes absolutely, but the flip of that equation is also true. If you have 1cubic inch of fat and one cubic inch of muscle which will weigh more? The muscle, because it is denser. Thus muscle, by volume,(which is implied) weighs more than fat. Shrug*I wouldn't try to determine if one was heavier if the only info I had was the weight of the two items. When you comparing weight you are comparing by equal volume. It's kinda how it works if you want real data.
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You don't have to determine which was heavier.
They are both 1 pound......
Their weight has already been established.
The amount of space they take up is different.
So muscle is more dense than fat.
Equal weight in muscle and fat having been established.....the fat will take up more space than the muscle will.
Ok, I get where you are coming from now....
I did not read the post in that manner
But I am doubting that OP has replaced fat for muscle, even w/ all the exercise she has done....
Kinda hard to put on muscle while in caloric deficit and to be female on top of that.0 -
hugs* someone gets it! I swear it makes me a bit crazy that people don't see the inverse equation as true.
Yes absolutely, but the flip of that equation is also true. If you have 1cubic inch of fat and one cubic inch of muscle which will weigh more? The muscle, because it is denser. Thus muscle, by volume,(which is implied) weighs more than fat. Shrug*I wouldn't try to determine if one was heavier if the only info I had was the weight of the two items. When you comparing weight you are comparing by equal volume. It's kinda how it works if you want real data.
:huh: :huh:
You don't have to determine which was heavier.
They are both 1 pound......
Their weight has already been established.
The amount of space they take up is different.
So muscle is more dense than fat.
Equal weight in muscle and fat having been established.....the fat will take up more space than the muscle will.
Ok, I get where you are coming from now....0 -
hugs* someone gets it! I swear it makes me a bit crazy that people don't see the inverse equation as true.
Yes absolutely, but the flip of that equation is also true. If you have 1cubic inch of fat and one cubic inch of muscle which will weigh more? The muscle, because it is denser. Thus muscle, by volume,(which is implied) weighs more than fat. Shrug*I wouldn't try to determine if one was heavier if the only info I had was the weight of the two items. When you comparing weight you are comparing by equal volume. It's kinda how it works if you want real data.
:huh: :huh:
You don't have to determine which was heavier.
They are both 1 pound......
Their weight has already been established.
The amount of space they take up is different.
So muscle is more dense than fat.
Equal weight in muscle and fat having been established.....the fat will take up more space than the muscle will.
Ok, I get where you are coming from now....
Not that I didn't see it as true....
I just wasn't getting the angle you were coming from......since we were speaking based on 1 pound of each being in front of us.0 -
I have not read all the replies. However, if you are not losing weight, then you either (1) need to pay a visit to the doctor to have your thyroid checked or check for other problems or (2) you are eating more than you think you are.
Most times it's the latter. Often times we underestimate calories in and overestimate calories out.
You say you log your food. Do you weight your portions? Do you log every single thing you put into your mouth? Do you log your exercise? If so, where do you get those estimates from?
If you were truly eating 1300 calories you would be losing weight. Eating more, while still staying in a calorie deficit is to properly fuel your body only, not to lose weight. You want to have energy to do whatever you do, including those wonderful workouts.
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I see a lot of stupid comments from those obviously oblivious to the fact that the body becomes resistant to weight loss when it thinks its starving. Just because she weighs 220 pounds doesn’t mean her body doesn’t think she’s emaciating herself.
In any case, asking on a forum is not terribly intelligent as you're getting the advice from illegitimate sources. If you're having problems you should speak to a doctor and a nutritionist with a medical degree (not the idiot working at a health food store).
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Ok I see. The reason I refused to answer her question is she gave me 1lb of each thinking she could prove muscle doesn't weigh more than fat. Because she was looking for weight comparison but gave the weight and nothing else made her argument circular and invalid.
hugs* someone gets it! I swear it makes me a bit crazy that people don't see the inverse equation as true.
Yes absolutely, but the flip of that equation is also true. If you have 1cubic inch of fat and one cubic inch of muscle which will weigh more? The muscle, because it is denser. Thus muscle, by volume,(which is implied) weighs more than fat. Shrug*I wouldn't try to determine if one was heavier if the only info I had was the weight of the two items. When you comparing weight you are comparing by equal volume. It's kinda how it works if you want real data.
:huh: :huh:
You don't have to determine which was heavier.
They are both 1 pound......
Their weight has already been established.
The amount of space they take up is different.
So muscle is more dense than fat.
Equal weight in muscle and fat having been established.....the fat will take up more space than the muscle will.
Ok, I get where you are coming from now....
Not that I didn't see it as true....
I just wasn't getting the angle you were coming from......since we were speaking based on 1 pound of each being in front of us.0 -
I see a lot of stupid comments from those obviously oblivious to the fact that the body becomes resistant to weight loss when it thinks its starving. Just because she weighs 220 pounds doesn’t mean her body doesn’t think she’s emaciating herself.
In any case, asking on a forum is not terribly intelligent as you're getting the advice from illegitimate sources. If you're having problems you should speak to a doctor and a nutritionist with a medical degree (not the idiot working at a health food store).
here we go again....
Anyway, I think we all are (including the OP) agreeing she hasn't been properly logging in her food. She's not starving :laugh:0 -
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I see a lot of stupid comments from those obviously oblivious to the fact that the body becomes resistant to weight loss when it thinks its starving. Just because she weighs 220 pounds doesn’t mean her body doesn’t think she’s emaciating herself.
This piece of information is tossed around way too much, generally by people who aren't losing weight and are looking for an excuse. (it's right up there with people self diagnosing themselves with a thyroid disorder as well) It take months and months of severely underrating severely to impact your metabolism, even more so if you're already severely obese.
The original poster of this thread, is 220 pounds at 5 foot 4. She is pretty overweight. 1200 calories a day, is appropriate.0 -
I see a lot of stupid comments from those obviously oblivious to the fact that the body becomes resistant to weight loss when it thinks its starving. Just because she weighs 220 pounds doesn’t mean her body doesn’t think she’s emaciating herself.
In any case, asking on a forum is not terribly intelligent as you're getting the advice from illegitimate sources. If you're having problems you should speak to a doctor and a nutritionist with a medical degree (not the idiot working at a health food store).
Wow first post insults the OP and everyone who responded to her. And some poor guy working at a health food store. Nice.0 -
I see a lot of stupid comments from those obviously oblivious to the fact that the body becomes resistant to weight loss when it thinks its starving. Just because she weighs 220 pounds doesn’t mean her body doesn’t think she’s emaciating herself.
Read:
http://www.fattyfightsback.com/2009/03/mtyhbusters-starvation-mode.html0 -
I hope she will be able to figure it all out, it's frustrating not seeing results for sure!0
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I see a lot of stupid comments from those obviously oblivious to the fact that the body becomes resistant to weight loss when it thinks its starving. Just because she weighs 220 pounds doesn’t mean her body doesn’t think she’s emaciating herself.
In any case, asking on a forum is not terribly intelligent as you're getting the advice from illegitimate sources. If you're having problems you should speak to a doctor and a nutritionist with a medical degree (not the idiot working at a health food store).
I'm legitimate. My parents were married.
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Well by reading this thread, I am seeing that I myself have not been logging correctly either. I do not weigh my food and by not doing so thought that I was staying within my daily caloric goal. I have the same difficulty as the original poster whereas I work out 3x a week with a a trainer, log my food and am not losing. As a matter of fact, I lost 14lbs at the beginning of the year with a different trainer and when she left, I worked out by myself and gained it all back.
I am now working out with someone else ( even more than before) and am not seeing any results.
While I do eat better (not the best) I do not weigh my food. I am definitely going to start though. My question is do I really need to weigh my fruits and veggies?0 -
While I do eat better (not the best) I do not weigh my food. I am definitely going to start though. My question is do I really need to weigh my fruits and veggies?
Yes. Especially fruit, since the sugar content can be high and packs on the calories. But once you get into a habit of it, it's not so bad. And after while, you'll get so good at it/used to it, you'll be able to start eyeballing food and knowing fairly close to the macro breakdown without weighing it. (all tho I still love weighing my food... it's nice being able to quantify your health/food intake with numbers)
Leafy green veggies I generally don't weigh, since their caloric content is extremely low. But overall, I'd just get into an initial habit of weighing everything at first.0 -
Well by reading this thread, I am seeing that I myself have not been logging correctly either. I do not weigh my food and by not doing so thought that I was staying within my daily caloric goal. I have the same difficulty as the original poster whereas I work out 3x a week with a a trainer, log my food and am not losing. As a matter of fact, I lost 14lbs at the beginning of the year with a different trainer and when she left, I worked out by myself and gained it all back.
I am now working out with someone else ( even more than before) and am not seeing any results.
While I do eat better (not the best) I do not weigh my food. I am definitely going to start though. My question is do I really need to weigh my fruits and veggies?
I'm so glad at least one person was helped by this thread!0 -
Well by reading this thread, I am seeing that I myself have not been logging correctly either. I do not weigh my food and by not doing so thought that I was staying within my daily caloric goal. I have the same difficulty as the original poster whereas I work out 3x a week with a a trainer, log my food and am not losing. As a matter of fact, I lost 14lbs at the beginning of the year with a different trainer and when she left, I worked out by myself and gained it all back.
I am now working out with someone else ( even more than before) and am not seeing any results.
While I do eat better (not the best) I do not weigh my food. I am definitely going to start though. My question is do I really need to weigh my fruits and veggies?
YES! Weigh everything. It makes a big difference. I used to not weight my food at all. Then I came on here and that is all people said to me. So I started to do so and I couldn't believe how off I was with my guesstimates. I now even way items that do have a label, like peanut butter. It says 2 tbs on the jar and a certain amount of grams. If you weigh 2 tbsp of that peanut butter in grams it does not add up. It is actually more like 1 to 1 1/2 tbs per serving. Weigh it all no matter what, cause at the end of the day and week that food that you just guesstimated on adds up pretty quickly.0 -
Well by reading this thread, I am seeing that I myself have not been logging correctly either. I do not weigh my food and by not doing so thought that I was staying within my daily caloric goal. I have the same difficulty as the original poster whereas I work out 3x a week with a a trainer, log my food and am not losing. As a matter of fact, I lost 14lbs at the beginning of the year with a different trainer and when she left, I worked out by myself and gained it all back.
I am now working out with someone else ( even more than before) and am not seeing any results.
While I do eat better (not the best) I do not weigh my food. I am definitely going to start though. My question is do I really need to weigh my fruits and veggies?
I'm so glad at least one person was helped by this thread!
I ditto that!0 -
I am gonna put this right here:
http://www.abc.net.au/science/articles/2012/07/24/3549931.htm
I am not saying for anyone to do this, as it is unhealthy....
But the idea that there is "starvation" mode or something.....is a bit far flung.
Or you have a damaged metabolism......0 -
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Well by reading this thread, I am seeing that I myself have not been logging correctly either. I do not weigh my food and by not doing so thought that I was staying within my daily caloric goal. I have the same difficulty as the original poster whereas I work out 3x a week with a a trainer, log my food and am not losing. As a matter of fact, I lost 14lbs at the beginning of the year with a different trainer and when she left, I worked out by myself and gained it all back.
I am now working out with someone else ( even more than before) and am not seeing any results.
While I do eat better (not the best) I do not weigh my food. I am definitely going to start though. My question is do I really need to weigh my fruits and veggies?
YES! Weigh everything. It makes a big difference. I used to not weight my food at all. Then I came on here and that is all people said to me. So I started to do so and I couldn't believe how off I was with my guesstimates. I now even way items that do have a label, like peanut butter. It says 2 tbs on the jar and a certain amount of grams. If you weigh 2 tbsp of that peanut butter in grams it does not add up. It is actually more like 1 to 1 1/2 tbs per serving. Weigh it all no matter what, cause at the end of the day and week that food that you just guesstimated on adds up pretty quickly.
It really does add up quick. Here is a good example as to why foods should be weighed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVjWPclrWVY 0
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