What counts as water?

candlelady1
candlelady1 Posts: 52 Member
edited September 25 in Health and Weight Loss
Does diet drinks count as water? How about hot tea with splenda? Can someone let me know for sure. Thanks candlelady1.
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  • jesshall281
    jesshall281 Posts: 219
    I want to know this aswell, i drink loads of tea, surely that counts as part of my water intake!
  • staceywoo
    staceywoo Posts: 56
    I only count pure water, I don't ever count coffee, tea or other drinks etc. The more water you drink the easier it will be to drink your 2 litres/8 glasses per day.
  • merrillfoster
    merrillfoster Posts: 855 Member
    Depends. I think any drink that doesn't have caffeine or alcohol counts
  • mlemonroe2
    mlemonroe2 Posts: 603
    I don't think caffeinated drinks count. Jillian Michaels says for every caffeinated beverage you drink, you should drink 2 glasses of water on top of your 8 a day.
  • jane77
    jane77 Posts: 489
    WATER
  • diet drinks DO NOT count. diet drinks eat away your insides....please please please stop drinking them...:(
  • Limeinthecoconut
    Limeinthecoconut Posts: 234 Member
    WATER
    Helpful. :noway:

    I usually just count my water but I've been unwell the past week so hot tea has helped my throat. It's unsweetened and decaf, so I add it in.
  • Oompa_Loompa
    Oompa_Loompa Posts: 1,099 Member
    Depends. I think any drink that doesn't have caffeine or alcohol counts

    awww crap! Alcohol doesnt count?! lol jk
  • Limeinthecoconut
    Limeinthecoconut Posts: 234 Member

    awww crap! Alcohol doesnt count?! lol jk
    :laugh:

    *quickly deletes 2 cups from intake* :drinker:
  • I hear this asked a lot. I'm not really sure why either. The only thing that you can reliably count as water is water. You may get hydration from other sources like sports drinks and all that, but remember that they could have diuretics like caffeine in them, which results in a net loss of water ultimately. Lots of people seem to not like drinking water, but I personally don't drink anything else for the most part. That's just my 2 cents though.
  • irishrose22
    irishrose22 Posts: 161 Member
    just did a little looking around about this yesterday. Coffee and tea count. They didnt used to but they do now. also, the 8 glasses a day is a minimum. IF you are trying to lose weight and are overweight you should be drinking more. take your body weight, divide it in half and thats approx how many ounces of water you should be drinking a day. Hope this helps. :) i started on my 12 cups of water yesterday.
  • Oompa_Loompa
    Oompa_Loompa Posts: 1,099 Member

    awww crap! Alcohol doesnt count?! lol jk
    :laugh:

    *quickly deletes 2 cups from intake* :drinker:


    *Like* lol
  • Oompa_Loompa
    Oompa_Loompa Posts: 1,099 Member
    Tomorrow Im gonna be counting it as water..and I will be verrrrrry hydrated. Happy saint patricks day to mee! lol :drinker:
  • Limeinthecoconut
    Limeinthecoconut Posts: 234 Member
    Tomorrow Im gonna be counting it as water..and I will be verrrrrry hydrated. Happy saint patricks day to mee! lol :drinker:

    Well...what if there's soda WATER in my alcoholic drink? :D It kind of counts...right? :devil:
  • mia66
    mia66 Posts: 425
    Just water counts. I make sure I get it in before drinking my green tea at the end of the day.
    I was not a big water drinker before so I challenged myself to drinking at least 5 cups a day. By the end of the week I was drinking 8 cups a day and within a month I was drinking 10 cups a day. I have been drinking my water faithfully for a good year now and I enjoy it.
    Mia.
  • julwills
    julwills Posts: 286 Member
    I say only water, no tea or coffee since those have caffeine. I also count water if I've added drink mix like Crystal Lite to it but other than that only pure water!
  • Oompa_Loompa
    Oompa_Loompa Posts: 1,099 Member
    Tomorrow Im gonna be counting it as water..and I will be verrrrrry hydrated. Happy saint patricks day to mee! lol :drinker:

    Well...what if there's soda WATER in my alcoholic drink? :D It kind of counts...right? :devil:

    oh my gosh yes it totally counts :) lol
  • MistyMtnMan
    MistyMtnMan Posts: 527 Member
    Does diet drinks count as water? How about hot tea with splenda? Can someone let me know for sure. Thanks candlelady1.
    Like everyone else has been saying only WATER counts as water. Plus a little FYI, coffee and tea dehydrate you so you have to drink even more water to make it up. It's about 2-3 more cups of water for every cup of coffee or tea you drink. Also, diet soda has sodium which will dehydrate you as well.
  • HeidiM78
    HeidiM78 Posts: 58
    I would say that Water counts as Water. Anything else is extra fluid but is not water.
    FYI drinking your 8 glasses of water (just doing that alone!) burns an extra 500 calories per week.
    The above info received from The Doctors
  • healthyjen342
    healthyjen342 Posts: 1,435 Member
    just did a little looking around about this yesterday. Coffee and tea count. They didnt used to but they do now. also, the 8 glasses a day is a minimum. IF you are trying to lose weight and are overweight you should be drinking more. take your body weight, divide it in half and thats approx how many ounces of water you should be drinking a day. Hope this helps. :) i started on my 12 cups of water yesterday.

    Yes. This is absolutely correct. 8 classes a day is the MINIMUM! Coffee/Teas WITHOUT added calories should count.
  • ashley0616
    ashley0616 Posts: 579 Member
    I count decaf tea, water, and soda water when I drink it. I don't count my coffee because I drink it with milk and sugar and it is caffeinated, which is dehydrating. But, I also drink about 100-120 oz of water a day on average, so I'm not too worried about it.
  • MistyMtnMan
    MistyMtnMan Posts: 527 Member
    just did a little looking around about this yesterday. Coffee and tea count. They didnt used to but they do now. also, the 8 glasses a day is a minimum. IF you are trying to lose weight and are overweight you should be drinking more. take your body weight, divide it in half and thats approx how many ounces of water you should be drinking a day. Hope this helps. :) i started on my 12 cups of water yesterday.

    Yes. This is absolutely correct. 8 classes a day is the MINIMUM! Coffee/Teas WITHOUT added calories should count.

    Just make sure you take into account that you have to drink 2-3 extra cups for every cup of coffee or tea because they are diuretics.
  • kountrygrl27
    kountrygrl27 Posts: 107 Member
    I drink UNSWEETNED Decaf teaand tho I wasnt counting it brfore I often wondered if this could be counted since it is basically "flavored" water. So i will be adding it to my list from now on and I will deff be well hydrated.
  • kevbrinks
    kevbrinks Posts: 42 Member
    Sorry, but this thread is getting ridiculous. You get water from TONS of sources - almost everything you eat and drink adds water. Diet drinks, non-diet drinks, coffee, tea, vegetables, bread...basically anything that isn't DEhydrated will give your body water!

    Caffeinated drinks do NOT, in any significant way, DEHYDRATE you. If you drink a ton of soda, you aren't going to turn all leathery and become dried out.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12187618

    Abstract:

    Recreational enthusiasts and athletes often are advised to abstain from consuming caffeinated beverages (CB). The dual purposes of this review are to (a) critique controlled investigations regarding the effects of caffeine on dehydration and exercise performance, and (b) ascertain whether abstaining from CB is scientifically and physiologically justifiable. The literature indicates that caffeine consumption stimulates a mild diuresis similar to water, but there is no evidence of a fluid-electrolyte imbalance that is detrimental to exercise performance or health. Investigations comparing caffeine (100-680 mg) to water or placebo seldom found a statistical difference in urine volume. In the 10 studies reviewed, consumption of a CB resulted in 0-84% retention of the initial volume ingested, whereas consumption of water resulted in 0-81% retention. Further, tolerance to caffeine reduces the likelihood that a detrimental fluid-electrolyte imbalance will occur. The scientific literature suggests that athletes and recreational enthusiasts will not incur detrimental fluid-electrolyte imbalances if they consume CB in moderation and eat a typical U.S. diet. Sedentary members of the general public should be a less risk than athletes because their fluid losses via sweating are smaller.

    Your body is pretty good at regulating whether it has too much or too little water. It's called thirst and peeing. The "8 glasses a day" has almost no scientific basis either, and I have no idea why MFP supports it.
  • MistyMtnMan
    MistyMtnMan Posts: 527 Member
    Sorry, but this thread is getting ridiculous. You get water from TONS of sources - almost everything you eat and drink adds water. Diet drinks, non-diet drinks, coffee, tea, vegetables, bread...basically anything that isn't DEhydrated will give your body water!

    Caffeinated drinks do NOT, in any significant way, DEHYDRATE you. If you drink a ton of soda, you aren't going to turn all leathery and become dried out.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12187618

    Abstract:

    Recreational enthusiasts and athletes often are advised to abstain from consuming caffeinated beverages (CB). The dual purposes of this review are to (a) critique controlled investigations regarding the effects of caffeine on dehydration and exercise performance, and (b) ascertain whether abstaining from CB is scientifically and physiologically justifiable. The literature indicates that caffeine consumption stimulates a mild diuresis similar to water, but there is no evidence of a fluid-electrolyte imbalance that is detrimental to exercise performance or health. Investigations comparing caffeine (100-680 mg) to water or placebo seldom found a statistical difference in urine volume. In the 10 studies reviewed, consumption of a CB resulted in 0-84% retention of the initial volume ingested, whereas consumption of water resulted in 0-81% retention. Further, tolerance to caffeine reduces the likelihood that a detrimental fluid-electrolyte imbalance will occur. The scientific literature suggests that athletes and recreational enthusiasts will not incur detrimental fluid-electrolyte imbalances if they consume CB in moderation and eat a typical U.S. diet. Sedentary members of the general public should be a less risk than athletes because their fluid losses via sweating are smaller.

    Your body is pretty good at regulating whether it has too much or too little water. It's called thirst and peeing. The "8 glasses a day" has almost no scientific basis either, and I have no idea why MFP supports it.

    If you were referring to me, all I'm trying to say is you need to drink the majority of your water as just water. I just don't want people to be drinking diet coke and coffee all day and think they are getting all the water they need. I know you won't dehydrate drastically, but diet drinks do contain sodium and coffee and tea can make you pee more. All I'm saying is just plain water should be your majority.
  • WeatherGurl1129
    WeatherGurl1129 Posts: 36 Member
    I don't like drinking regular water here at work because my office keeps their temperatures pretty cold. So I started drinking decaffeinated green tea after I drink my coffee in the morning (1 serving, but I don't count that as water). I switch to my regular water bottle when I leave work for at-home and when I work out. I know a lot of places will tell you that drinking cold water is good for you to burn calories, but I cannot stand drinking cold water all day and shivering in my office chair. :tongue:
  • kevbrinks
    kevbrinks Posts: 42 Member
    Sorry, but this thread is getting ridiculous. You get water from TONS of sources - almost everything you eat and drink adds water. Diet drinks, non-diet drinks, coffee, tea, vegetables, bread...basically anything that isn't DEhydrated will give your body water!

    Caffeinated drinks do NOT, in any significant way, DEHYDRATE you. If you drink a ton of soda, you aren't going to turn all leathery and become dried out.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12187618

    Abstract:

    Recreational enthusiasts and athletes often are advised to abstain from consuming caffeinated beverages (CB). The dual purposes of this review are to (a) critique controlled investigations regarding the effects of caffeine on dehydration and exercise performance, and (b) ascertain whether abstaining from CB is scientifically and physiologically justifiable. The literature indicates that caffeine consumption stimulates a mild diuresis similar to water, but there is no evidence of a fluid-electrolyte imbalance that is detrimental to exercise performance or health. Investigations comparing caffeine (100-680 mg) to water or placebo seldom found a statistical difference in urine volume. In the 10 studies reviewed, consumption of a CB resulted in 0-84% retention of the initial volume ingested, whereas consumption of water resulted in 0-81% retention. Further, tolerance to caffeine reduces the likelihood that a detrimental fluid-electrolyte imbalance will occur. The scientific literature suggests that athletes and recreational enthusiasts will not incur detrimental fluid-electrolyte imbalances if they consume CB in moderation and eat a typical U.S. diet. Sedentary members of the general public should be a less risk than athletes because their fluid losses via sweating are smaller.

    Your body is pretty good at regulating whether it has too much or too little water. It's called thirst and peeing. The "8 glasses a day" has almost no scientific basis either, and I have no idea why MFP supports it.

    If you were referring to me, all I'm trying to say is you need to drink the majority of your water as just water. I just don't want people to be drinking diet coke and coffee all day and think they are getting all the water they need. I know you won't dehydrate drastically, but diet drinks do contain sodium and coffee and tea can make you pee more. All I'm saying is just plain water should be your majority.

    I wasn't just referring to you :) I agree with you that pure water is excellent for you, and I think we agree on that other point - Regular and diet beverages have plenty of disadvantages, but if you aren't thirsty after your 8 Coke Zero's a day, you don't need to go home and chug 8 glasses of water before bed. Peeing more isn't exactly comfortable, especially when it hits you in your sleep! ;)
  • Sorry, but this thread is getting ridiculous. You get water from TONS of sources - almost everything you eat and drink adds water. Diet drinks, non-diet drinks, coffee, tea, vegetables, bread...basically anything that isn't DEhydrated will give your body water!

    Caffeinated drinks do NOT, in any significant way, DEHYDRATE you. If you drink a ton of soda, you aren't going to turn all leathery and become dried out.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12187618

    Abstract:

    Recreational enthusiasts and athletes often are advised to abstain from consuming caffeinated beverages (CB). The dual purposes of this review are to (a) critique controlled investigations regarding the effects of caffeine on dehydration and exercise performance, and (b) ascertain whether abstaining from CB is scientifically and physiologically justifiable. The literature indicates that caffeine consumption stimulates a mild diuresis similar to water, but there is no evidence of a fluid-electrolyte imbalance that is detrimental to exercise performance or health. Investigations comparing caffeine (100-680 mg) to water or placebo seldom found a statistical difference in urine volume. In the 10 studies reviewed, consumption of a CB resulted in 0-84% retention of the initial volume ingested, whereas consumption of water resulted in 0-81% retention. Further, tolerance to caffeine reduces the likelihood that a detrimental fluid-electrolyte imbalance will occur. The scientific literature suggests that athletes and recreational enthusiasts will not incur detrimental fluid-electrolyte imbalances if they consume CB in moderation and eat a typical U.S. diet. Sedentary members of the general public should be a less risk than athletes because their fluid losses via sweating are smaller.

    Your body is pretty good at regulating whether it has too much or too little water. It's called thirst and peeing. The "8 glasses a day" has almost no scientific basis either, and I have no idea why MFP supports it.

    If you were referring to me, all I'm trying to say is you need to drink the majority of your water as just water. I just don't want people to be drinking diet coke and coffee all day and think they are getting all the water they need. I know you won't dehydrate drastically, but diet drinks do contain sodium and coffee and tea can make you pee more. All I'm saying is just plain water should be your majority.


    The thread isn't ridiculous, this was an honest & sincere question that everyone is trying to answer the best they can.
    I don't think it was referred to just you, it was to everyone apparently.

    Many doctors, health specialist, who ever you want to ask who has educated them selves in this type of field will have some sort of different opinion of how many glasses of- blah blah blah -so it's not worth trying to put some sense into it unless you were completely educated in the field... with a different opinion/facts from someone else. That is why there are so many diet books, diet websites, opinions, articles, etc. The never ending circle of what is what, how should we do this, and what have we discovered now.
    Anyways.
    Water is water, even if the drink has no calories. I drink unsweetened iced tea, it might not have calories, but I put it with what ever meal or snack I am having. I only do it so I can keep track of what I eat and drink. That's just my opinion and also what I do for myself. If unsweetened tea works as water for you, go right ahead. What it comes down to is making sure you educate yourself in what works best for you. Look up caffeine, maybe it will give some insight on where the beverages should be placed in the diary. Nothing wrong with doing some research. :smile:
  • I've been told by several nutritionists/dieticians that essentially any drink except for alcohol counts towards your water intake. In fact there are now reports that tea and coffee can actually have more health benefits than just water alone:

    Tea 'healthier' drink than water:
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/5281046.stm

    Tea and coffee 'protect against heart disease'
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/10350373

    Why is too much water dangerous?
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/6263029.stm

    Personally I don't like plain and simple water - at room temperature it makes me feel ill but any colder and it hurts my teeth - so I really only drink it at the gym. During the day I prefer hot drinks and so mainly get my water intake from tea, coffee (often decaf) and no added sugar squash made up with hot water. So far I haven't withered away :-)
  • MistyMtnMan
    MistyMtnMan Posts: 527 Member
    Sorry, but this thread is getting ridiculous. You get water from TONS of sources - almost everything you eat and drink adds water. Diet drinks, non-diet drinks, coffee, tea, vegetables, bread...basically anything that isn't DEhydrated will give your body water!

    Caffeinated drinks do NOT, in any significant way, DEHYDRATE you. If you drink a ton of soda, you aren't going to turn all leathery and become dried out.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12187618

    Abstract:

    Recreational enthusiasts and athletes often are advised to abstain from consuming caffeinated beverages (CB). The dual purposes of this review are to (a) critique controlled investigations regarding the effects of caffeine on dehydration and exercise performance, and (b) ascertain whether abstaining from CB is scientifically and physiologically justifiable. The literature indicates that caffeine consumption stimulates a mild diuresis similar to water, but there is no evidence of a fluid-electrolyte imbalance that is detrimental to exercise performance or health. Investigations comparing caffeine (100-680 mg) to water or placebo seldom found a statistical difference in urine volume. In the 10 studies reviewed, consumption of a CB resulted in 0-84% retention of the initial volume ingested, whereas consumption of water resulted in 0-81% retention. Further, tolerance to caffeine reduces the likelihood that a detrimental fluid-electrolyte imbalance will occur. The scientific literature suggests that athletes and recreational enthusiasts will not incur detrimental fluid-electrolyte imbalances if they consume CB in moderation and eat a typical U.S. diet. Sedentary members of the general public should be a less risk than athletes because their fluid losses via sweating are smaller.

    Your body is pretty good at regulating whether it has too much or too little water. It's called thirst and peeing. The "8 glasses a day" has almost no scientific basis either, and I have no idea why MFP supports it.

    If you were referring to me, all I'm trying to say is you need to drink the majority of your water as just water. I just don't want people to be drinking diet coke and coffee all day and think they are getting all the water they need. I know you won't dehydrate drastically, but diet drinks do contain sodium and coffee and tea can make you pee more. All I'm saying is just plain water should be your majority.

    I wasn't just referring to you :) I agree with you that pure water is excellent for you, and I think we agree on that other point - Regular and diet beverages have plenty of disadvantages, but if you aren't thirsty after your 8 Coke Zero's a day, you don't need to go home and chug 8 glasses of water before bed. Peeing more isn't exactly comfortable, especially when it hits you in your sleep! ;)

    I hear that. I just hope people start flushing there system with water instead of just diet drinks. All those chemicals running through you hurt more than help. Good lookin out.
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