Womens point of view please.....ABS, What do you think?

mild definition and delicious big arms.

THIS. I'm way into arms.

As far as abs go, mild to moderate definition is my favorite body type on men I date.
I don't mind LOOKING at men with crazy defined abs, but they're not so fun to cuddle with.

SEXY ARMS are the way forward!! Love love love big strong arms. My favorite thing ever!

Crap I thought this was about Anit-lock Brake systems!

Well... as far as "Sexy" goes ---- I'm more turned on my intelligence and a good sense of humor. Little secret for all you men out there... women like men who can make them laugh.

However, you obviously want a specific question answered, so I'll give you what you want. Ripped abs have been known to make me swoon. But flat with some definition is equally as nice. I'm not sure if the "V" that you speak of is what I think it is... but if it is... then yeah... that's hot. (The clefts peaking out of your pants heading toward the groin area... yep... that's awesome. )

Toned is good... muscle bound and veiny is gross... I can't stand the no neck/ can't put my arms down to my side look. But that's just one gal's opinion.

Generally I'm not really attracted to beefy guys and veins popping out aren't really my thing either;P I'm not super picky but I suppose I've always preferred lean and cut. This is pretty much perfection imho:


..just sayin.

Crap I thought this was about Anit-lock Brake systems!

That was Awesome!:laugh:


And to add on to what others have said... it's nice to look at a "hard body" but it is true.... not super comfy to 'cuddle' with... if you're into that... or to have slapping up against you... (um, er... if you're working out together?? or um... if you aren't looking where you're going and run into each other? ) :blushing: You know what I mean. :blushing:

So I need to stop where I'm at, or what?

Ok and what is wrong with me, I've never even thought about the V but I am almost 38...I think the V ship has sailed

For me the most handsome physique is the look a swimmer has -- long lean muscles, a flat tummy but not a lot of definiation..

I love swimmer physiques. Male and female. I would be a happy camper if I managed to develop a swimmer body.

So I need to stop where I'm at, or what?

You need to do what makes you feel the best! All us girls are different and have different tastes. Even though I said my "ideal" would be lean and cut, that certainly is not the only thing I find attractive. I don't think I've never dated a guy who fits under what my "ideal" would be. Ideal is more for celebrities and pictures. All that goes out the window for me when actually looking for a serious mate, physical appearance kinda takes the back seat.

So yeah, just do whatever makes you feel best and someone will love it for sure.

Generally I'm not really attracted to beefy guys and veins popping out aren't really my thing either;P I'm not super picky but I suppose I've always preferred lean and cut. This is pretty much perfection imho:


..just sayin.

this is what my husband's look like...nothing over done and he has his "v"..love it...too many muscles with veins popping out is not nice.

So I need to stop where I'm at, or what?

You need to do what makes you feel the best! All us girls are different and have different tastes. Even though I said my "ideal" would be lean and cut, that certainly is not the only thing I find attractive. I don't think I've never dated a guy who fits under what my "ideal" would be. Ideal is more for celebrities and pictures. All that goes out the window for me when actually looking for a serious mate, physical appearance kinda takes the back seat.

So yeah, just do whatever makes you feel best and someone will love it for sure.

Exactly. Confidence is DEAD sexy.
I'd rather date an overweight man who's secure with himself physically and emotionally than a fit dude with an incredible body who is completely insecure and uncomfortable in his own skin.

So I need to stop where I'm at, or what?

You need to do what makes you feel the best! All us girls are different and have different tastes. Even though I said my "ideal" would be lean and cut, that certainly is not the only thing I find attractive. I don't think I've never dated a guy who fits under what my "ideal" would be. Ideal is more for celebrities and pictures. All that goes out the window for me when actually looking for a serious mate, physical appearance kinda takes the back seat.

So yeah, just do whatever makes you feel best and someone will love it for sure.

Exactly. Confidence is DEAD sexy.
I'd rather date an overweight man who's secure with himself physically and emotionally than a fit dude with an incredible body who is completely insecure and uncomfortable in his own skin.

....or even worse, a fit dude who is so stuck on himself he can't pass a mirror without practically blowing a kiss.

To me, mild definition is more attractive - but definitely not a deal-breaker!

So I need to stop where I'm at, or what?

We are on the right direction. The other thing I have learned and women will argue this i'm sure but it doesn't matter how you look to 90% of women as long as you are clean and presentable with a little bit of style and funny.

I always look back at the most attractive gf's I had was when I was at my heaviest, so if that doesn't tell you something I don't know what does.

100% the same with me. When I was 60 pounds heavier than I am now, I dated the best looking (and thinnest) girls of my life. Weird.