fat jokes about Kirstie Alley on Dancing with the Stars

lloydrt
lloydrt Posts: 1,121 Member
edited September 25 in Chit-Chat
Thought Id throw this out there, since we talk so much about nutrition, obesity, weight discrimination, and health, but what did you think when Geroge Lopez called Kirstie out about her weight on his talk show, comparing her to that little pig on the TV commercial.

I think its that Aflac commercial, where the lady picks up the little pig, and the pig is screaming "Weeeeee.......Weeeeee, Weeeeeee, Weeeeee............all the way home, ,whille the ladys son rolls his eyes......Weeeee, Weeeee, Weeee.....while holding a little penant flag out the windoe

kind of insensitive of him.....hes not that hot of a comic either.. I loved his mother in his TV sitcom, but really never liked him.....

and to make matters worse, she(Kirstie) and her partner on Dancing with the Stars fell "because Macc's leg gave out, although rumor is now around stating "he collapsed because of her 100 extra pound weight"

there , sadly are comments that shes too fat to be on there in the first place.......

kinda sad, I think she is doing great and takes this contest very seriouslly...........

we will have to see tonite, as well as probably saying good bye to Wendy Williams. I love her, but shes at the bottom

shes another contestant George Lopez called out as well, refering to her as being a "biological man" in womens clothing.............whoa, thats rough... Lloyd
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  • JennaM222
    JennaM222 Posts: 1,996 Member
    She did star on her own show, "fat actress"
  • binary_jester
    binary_jester Posts: 3,311 Member
    Ok wait...so this is where we post jokes?
  • bjshields
    bjshields Posts: 677 Member
    I'm with you on this one. I find it crass and not remotely funny. It's an acceptable prejudice, unfortunately.
  • sbwood888
    sbwood888 Posts: 953 Member
    George Lopez has a lotta nerve talking about the way anyone else looks.....with his big head and pock marks.
  • cng1117
    cng1117 Posts: 225 Member
    It has always amazed me how some of these people are so quick to knock others because of their appearance, and the majority of the time the ones making the cracks have no room to talk themselves!
  • meggonkgonk
    meggonkgonk Posts: 2,066 Member
    I havent got a lot to contribute to this, but George Lopez is an unfunny tool. It has nothing to do with this other than you mentioned him, but all he's got is being a douche, it's the only "funny" thing he knows how to do.
  • DarthBubbles
    DarthBubbles Posts: 138
    Poking fun at herself and her weight problem that she is well aware of is one thing, but for Lopez to essentially ridicule her and her efforts is asinine...not like ol' George is a model specimen himself...
    At least she is moving her butt instead of sitting at home doing nothing, ya know?
  • twooliver
    twooliver Posts: 450 Member
    jokes at the expense of others is never okay...regardless of who or what kind of show they do...

    This country is so f....ked up about women and body images....and that gets played out on the tv screen regularly!
  • HelenTheKitchen
    HelenTheKitchen Posts: 383
    I freakin' love her, and I don't think anyone can throw anything at her that she can't handle. I'm not saying they should throw it at her, but I think she is one fantastically strong and courageous lady. Dealing with a problem that is so real to so many of us in the public eye like that, and really embracing it, is what makes that lady someone to idolize. She is so real, and beautiful. Love her.
  • taylor1098
    taylor1098 Posts: 11 Member
    I think it's wrong of people to make fun of her, and I think she is very brave for agreeing to be on the show. I believe Maks' leg really did give out, it is a normal thing to happen. I hope she doesn't get eliminated tonight and I really hope people give her a chance, because I think she is quite good.
  • 3ur3ka
    3ur3ka Posts: 230 Member
    I like Kirstie Alley. I think she's beautiful.


    I like George Lopez. He's just doing his job. He gets paid to be an *kitten*. If people didn't like it, he probably wouldn't have his own show.
  • Marla64
    Marla64 Posts: 23,120 Member
    I gotta tell you-- first, no, George Lopez isn't funny in the first place. And his comments were unkind. I know that's the deal with "comedy" these days. Nobody and nothing is off limits. It is what it is. But, he's a shmuck, in my opinion.

    As for Kirstie-- I cried watching her the first time. She, for better or worse, is who she is. She wishes she were a smaller size, and her struggles are well documented. But, she went out there unapologetically and unashamed and totally rocked it. She is a wonderful dancer, and I was so proud and so moved I cried like a baby.

    here I sit with my weight piling on due to my metabolic crap I've documented, and I can't look people in the eye I'm so ashamed of how I look. And I've been busting my *kitten* for two years.

    I really was moved. She really impressed me.

    As for Maks' fall....who knows if he would have collapsed with a smaller actress? It's moot right now. It looked how it looked. It will be played in the media the way it will be played. I've always thought Kirstie was obnoxious and not terribly funny. I've had to look at her through different eyes through all this. She's a very strong, amazing woman and I wish her the best.
  • NoAdditives
    NoAdditives Posts: 4,251 Member
    Is it mean? Yes. Would he say that to her face? Probably not.

    But...She has the means to lose weight. Yes, it's hard for everyone, but being a celebrity with plenty of money means that she has access to certain resources that the rest of us don't. She can hire a top trainer, chef, etc. and she can lose the weight. She even came out with her own line of organic weight loss products, she should probably be better spokesperson for them! If she put in the time and effort she could lose the weight and keep it off, just like the rest of us. If you're public about your struggle with your weight and you fail time after time you should expect that there will be rude people who will make fun. It sucks, but honestly, it's just another part of being a celebrity.
  • lloydrt
    lloydrt Posts: 1,121 Member
    MEGG, I agree, an aging old Chris Rock..........(yawn)

    hope she does well, and coming from a person who used to be morbidly obese, I really respect her for appearing on the show, and the time she was on Oprah in a bikini.......that takes balls...........Lloyd
  • schlubba
    schlubba Posts: 26
    I say who cares. Is she fat....Yes. I am a fat man and feel that anyone who gets made fun of because they are fat should deal with it. In my opinion, this nation has become a bunch of sensitive wimps and I can't stand it. If someone is fat, you shouldn't have to sidestep around the issue, same goes for ugly, skinny, beautiful, crackheads, idiots and the like. If they don't like it, they are the ones who can change it (generally). Then again this is my just my opinion. If you don't like it, form your own.
  • msproducer
    msproducer Posts: 101 Member
    I love Kirstie & actually voted for her. She's a 60 yr old with sass & moves. The pig commercial is hilarious, but Lopez referring Kirstie to a pig is not my kind of joke either. I hope she makes it far in the competition. I look forward to watching her!
  • Marcellus_08
    Marcellus_08 Posts: 253
    I think Kirstie is way pretty. She got TONS of **** for wearing her swimsuit on Oprah along time ago. You can tell she felt confident and happy. Just to hear later everyone thought she looked like a fat pig. I thought she looked awesome and happy.

    You would think that a comedian could think of other things besides a womans weight to tease. What a horrible low blow that is. But then again..Its George Lopez, and if I say so myself I don't consider him an comedian, just a low life piece of **** that HAS to resort to teasing about personal things to make himself look better. Stupid *****
  • anniepants1
    anniepants1 Posts: 25
    She handled that fall with class and grace and went on to prove that she deserves to be on that show.
  • JennaM222
    JennaM222 Posts: 1,996 Member
    I say who cares. Is she fat....Yes. I am a fat man and feel that anyone who gets made fun of because they are fat should deal with it. In my opinion, this nation has become a bunch of sensitive wimps and I can't stand it. If someone is fat, you shouldn't have to sidestep around the issue, same goes for ugly, skinny, beautiful, crackheads, idiots and the like. If they don't like it, they are the ones who can change it (generally). Then again this is my just my opinion. If you don't like it, form your own.

    cheers :drinker:
  • binary_jester
    binary_jester Posts: 3,311 Member
    I am chubby...asian and hispanic. I gots jokes galore!
  • 3ur3ka
    3ur3ka Posts: 230 Member
    Is it mean? Yes. Would he say that to her face? Probably not.

    But...She has the means to lose weight. Yes, it's hard for everyone, but being a celebrity with plenty of money means that she has access to certain resources that the rest of us don't. She can hire a top trainer, chef, etc. and she can lose the weight. She even came out with her own line of organic weight loss products, she should probably be better spokesperson for them! If she put in the time and effort she could lose the weight and keep it off, just like the rest of us. If you're public about your struggle with your weight and you fail time after time you should expect that there will be rude people who will make fun. It sucks, but honestly, it's just another part of being a celebrity.



    Precisely what I was thinking.
  • Setof2Keys
    Setof2Keys Posts: 681 Member
    george lopez is not that thin himself...he has his nerve. I think it is more difficult for her to move around, but we are all experiencing that. I think it is great that she is not just sitting there letting it get the best of her. At least she is trying. No one (especially on MFP) knows her struggles more than we do.
  • Becky1971
    Becky1971 Posts: 979 Member
    I love Kirstie and Maks both! And she's doing fantastic! I agree she is beautiful, I love that she is so transparent! Lopez, you wouldn't expect anything but that from him, as far as comments regarding the fall, it's just rediculous. Thats why I stay away from the boards and what not, people just say the dumbest things sometimes. It's dancing, people get hurt, people fall down. Maks was obviously in a lot of pain, and felt horrible about it.
  • Coyla
    Coyla Posts: 444 Member
    I've never appreciated fat jokes, but I think people should be free to laugh at themselves. We should all take ourselves a bit more lightly, and that means not getting offended so easily.

    As a fat person who's been the recipient of many a fat joke, I realize my condition doesn't define me. Rather, it is one small part of me. And what others see as a weakness has allowed me to become a stronger person. I struggle, while they go along their merry way. I STRUGGLE to lose a quarter of a pound. I struggle to be normal.

    But that struggle has taught me a thousand life lessons that the person laughing will never, ever learn.

    So the fat jokes can be funny, in a light, silly way. I admit, I laugh at myself sometimes when I see how silly I look doing squats. It's like Humpty Dumpty trying to get in shape.

    schlubba, I agree with you to an extent, but you're also taking it too far. Kindness is a virtue. The ability to empathize and be heartbroken for others is also a virtue, not a weakness. At the same time, taking ourselves lightly is a virtue. The ability to laugh at ourselves is a virtue. The essence of the problem is a lack of virtue on both ends, from the mortally offended to the incessant offenders. Both are in the wrong.
  • Ms_Natalie
    Ms_Natalie Posts: 1,030 Member
    I really like Kirstie Alley too...I'm not in the UK so we don't have the coverage but for anyone to say something like that to gain points is awful!

    It's the same in Britain, we have one judge on "Dancing on Ice" who really has overstepped the mark several times in the last competition...he wound people up so much that a husband of one contestants got up and went to speak to him to which he made a comment about the husbands stinking breath...it was really uncomfortable viewing.

    There is a fine line between comedy and insult!

    :ohwell:
  • PlanetVelma
    PlanetVelma Posts: 1,223 Member
    I liked her response to his "piggy joke" that she wanted his kidney not an apology. LOL I think that's just the "norm" remember how nasty the media was towards Bristol Palin last season - there were jokes about her being the one who gained instead of lost, etc...? Really tasteless stuff....

    I don't watch DWTS regularly, but I do hope Kirsti Alley wins. ;)
  • WarmDontBurn
    WarmDontBurn Posts: 1,253 Member
    Is it mean? Yes. Would he say that to her face? Probably not.

    But...She has the means to lose weight. Yes, it's hard for everyone, but being a celebrity with plenty of money means that she has access to certain resources that the rest of us don't. She can hire a top trainer, chef, etc. and she can lose the weight. She even came out with her own line of organic weight loss products, she should probably be better spokesperson for them! If she put in the time and effort she could lose the weight and keep it off, just like the rest of us. If you're public about your struggle with your weight and you fail time after time you should expect that there will be rude people who will make fun. It sucks, but honestly, it's just another part of being a celebrity.

    She may have the means and money. You can have all the money in the world but that doesn't give you the drive or emotional support you need. I only caught a bit of her dancing and she was being pretty upfront about her weight and said she was never really happy even when she was skinny. She can't find out where she is happy and IMO that must be a hard road to travel.

    I really like her and thought she rocked the bathing suit on Oprah. Maybe she uses her weight/jokes as humour as a denfece mechanism but we don't know her inner workings so no right to judge.
  • tiaydew
    tiaydew Posts: 89 Member
    I am chubby...asian and hispanic. I gots jokes galore!

    and I'm short too! *sighs* I do love Kirstie Alley though and hope she goes far on DWTS! When I saw the fall, I just knew everyone was going to make fat jokes about it. George Lopez is funny and he is the first to make fun of himself for his looks.
  • Becky1971
    Becky1971 Posts: 979 Member
    I use to feel the same way, especially regarding them having money enough to have their own personal gym and trainer right in their house. I never had an attitude about it, but just thought they were lucky, and if I had it things would be easier. But as I have learned, it doesn't have to cost money to move and to eat healthier, and losing is a lot more about our emotional health, and having support, and motivation.

    Is it mean? Yes. Would he say that to her face? Probably not.

    But...She has the means to lose weight. Yes, it's hard for everyone, but being a celebrity with plenty of money means that she has access to certain resources that the rest of us don't. She can hire a top trainer, chef, etc. and she can lose the weight. She even came out with her own line of organic weight loss products, she should probably be better spokesperson for them! If she put in the time and effort she could lose the weight and keep it off, just like the rest of us. If you're public about your struggle with your weight and you fail time after time you should expect that there will be rude people who will make fun. It sucks, but honestly, it's just another part of being a celebrity.

    She may have the means and money. You can have all the money in the world but that doesn't give you the drive or emotional support you need. I only caught a bit of her dancing and she was being pretty upfront about her weight and said she was never really happy even when she was skinny. She can't find out where she is happy and IMO that must be a hard road to travel.

    I really like her and thought she rocked the bathing suit on Oprah. Maybe she uses her weight/jokes as humour as a denfece mechanism but we don't know her inner workings so no right to judge.
  • Newmammaluv
    Newmammaluv Posts: 379 Member
    I had to go and google the coverage of their dance and the fall was right in the beginning and if you watch his feet you will actually see that he twists his toe the wrong direction causing the weight shift to make him lose his balance... at first yes it looks like he buckles under his weight but instead of watching their faces watch his feet.

    Oh and of course TV has it's tasteless moments... Jersey Shore?!?! Bad Girls Club?? Come on... not exactly a classy record as far as primetime TV goes.
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