Not sure who to believe
TheKingsChampion
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I recently had the opportunity to visit two doctors on the same day. (We only have one in our town.)
The problem is that when I get up, I feel really dizzy and my eyes go dark a few seconds.
One doctor said I should quit eating so much sugar. (I love sweets, but I'm not really THAT much over WEEKLY) The other one said I need to eat more salt because my blood pressure is low.
Now with the sugar, I've had a crash before. And I mean a HARD crash. Sugar in 'normal' (because a whole chocolate slab is normal for me to eat at once) quantities doesn't have ANY effect on me AT ALL. So I really have to eat A LOT to get a crash, and when I do its a BIG crash. My eyes go dark, my hearing fades, I can't control my body and need to lie down otherwise I'd just faint. This lasts a minute or so. I discovered this after a challenge I did with a friend.
Now this confuses me. Knowing how hard I crash on sugar I'm not sure if I should believe the one doctor who said I should cut out sugar or the one who said I should eat salt?? Which is it, sugar levels or blood pressure levels...??
The problem is that when I get up, I feel really dizzy and my eyes go dark a few seconds.
One doctor said I should quit eating so much sugar. (I love sweets, but I'm not really THAT much over WEEKLY) The other one said I need to eat more salt because my blood pressure is low.
Now with the sugar, I've had a crash before. And I mean a HARD crash. Sugar in 'normal' (because a whole chocolate slab is normal for me to eat at once) quantities doesn't have ANY effect on me AT ALL. So I really have to eat A LOT to get a crash, and when I do its a BIG crash. My eyes go dark, my hearing fades, I can't control my body and need to lie down otherwise I'd just faint. This lasts a minute or so. I discovered this after a challenge I did with a friend.
Now this confuses me. Knowing how hard I crash on sugar I'm not sure if I should believe the one doctor who said I should cut out sugar or the one who said I should eat salt?? Which is it, sugar levels or blood pressure levels...??
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You should ask your doctor to find out.
You do realize posters here aren't going to give you quality medical advice... right? lol.0 -
I had a similar issue and it was low blood pressure. That's just me though. Did either of them actually do any tests? take your blood pressure or blood sugar?0
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The one who said it was my blood pressure actually tested it, the other one didn't, he just jumped straight to "Quit sugar immediately!"
I was a little confused because both the symptoms seems similar, except the sugar crash is much much worse.
And yes I do realize I won't get medical advice, just asking for opinions.
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If it was me, and only if it was me, I'd address the low blood pressure because they actually tested. If it still happened, I might consider addressing the sugar thing. Except that I wouldn't, because that doctor sounds kinda full of it.0
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Sounds like it may not matter which is more correct, because you should probably do both of those things.0
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Why didn't you ask before you left the doctors rooms? Perhaps make another appointment with whichever you prefered and go back with some questions. Get your bloods done and blood pressure re-taken.
Otherwise mightn't do any harm to cut down on the sugar, add a little more salt and see how you feel.0 -
Blood pressure, but you need a new doctor!
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Many things can cause dizziness / blackouts. As already stated, you need to ask your doctor. The following are all common causes but they will require tests/blood work to establish if one of them is cause of your problems:
low blood pressure
low blood sugar
iron deficiency0 -
Sounds like it may not matter which is more correct, because you should probably do both of those things.
Agreed. You're literally blacking out after consuming lots of sugar? If you were only doing that occasionally then I would be a bit wary of the quit sugar diagnosis but it's possible you've found out OP what too much sugar really can be.
I would get another appointment or doctor to explain all the mechanics of this and also possibly do my own research to understand how salt and sugar can contribute to these symptoms. Still need to couple personal research with an actual doc because while it makes you more informed, they can quickly rule out things that wouldn't apply to you, and if you have a good rapport with them they'll explain why it's not consistent with your personal history, too
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I have similar reactions due to my low blood pressure...easily taken care of by staying hydrated....
As for the sugar eh...I eat a whole chocolate bar everynight and never have had issues.0 -
I have similar reactions due to my low blood pressure...easily taken care of by staying hydrated....
As for the sugar eh...I eat a whole chocolate bar everynight and never have had issues.
Question though. What's a whole bar? 200 calories or 2000 calories of the stuff? The sheer quantity might help explain the OP's issues
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Considering you didn't find out medically what your actual problem was then yes I would assume you wouldn't know who to believe, but asking here isn't going to magically make that answer appear.0
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I have similar reactions due to my low blood pressure...easily taken care of by staying hydrated....
As for the sugar eh...I eat a whole chocolate bar everynight and never have had issues.
Question though. What's a whole bar? 200 calories or 2000 calories of the stuff? The sheer quantity might help explain the OP's issues
A chocolate bar for me is 42grams...it's 260 calories I believe...
But at the same time the OP said they crashed after a challenage....do they often have sugar crashes such as that one...??? or was it just that one time?
Sugar crashes happen to lots of people even those who eat too much fruit....it's a common occurance for those who eat something at mid day to help them through the rest of the day...
I doubt very much that the OP eats sugar so much that they are having that reaction all the time...the most reasonable explaination is the blood pressure...not sugar (unless they are a diabetic)0 -
I have had this problem since I was a kid (I actually passed out and woke up on the floor). I also have very low blood pressure and I feel the same way from going to a seated/laying position to standing.
Google orthostatic hypertension - this should give you a good idea, then decide if you would need to seek additional medical treatment.0 -
How did you happen to see two doctors? Do they have different specialties? It seems odd to diagnose based on as little info as they seem to have had.0
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Only because the doctor jumping on sugar didn't actually do any kind of examination, I'd be inclined to listen to the one who said low blood pressure -- you know, because he actually checked our blood pressure.
I would go back to him and ask for a full physical with labs, though. What you describe about "crashing" from eating sugar is a new one to me ... The faintness when getting up, though, sounds like LBP. However, it could be a number of other things, as well.0 -
TheKingsChampion wrote: »I recently had the opportunity to visit two doctors on the same day. (We only have one in our town.)
The problem is that when I get up, I feel really dizzy and my eyes go dark a few seconds.
One doctor said I should quit eating so much sugar. (I love sweets, but I'm not really THAT much over WEEKLY) The other one said I need to eat more salt because my blood pressure is low.
Now with the sugar, I've had a crash before. And I mean a HARD crash. Sugar in 'normal' (because a whole chocolate slab is normal for me to eat at once) quantities doesn't have ANY effect on me AT ALL. So I really have to eat A LOT to get a crash, and when I do its a BIG crash. My eyes go dark, my hearing fades, I can't control my body and need to lie down otherwise I'd just faint. This lasts a minute or so. I discovered this after a challenge I did with a friend.
Now this confuses me. Knowing how hard I crash on sugar I'm not sure if I should believe the one doctor who said I should cut out sugar or the one who said I should eat salt?? Which is it, sugar levels or blood pressure levels...??
I would put to you that both Doctors' advice should be heeded or at least investigated as they are both sides of the same coin.
Neither doctor's assessment is 'sugar' vs. 'salt'.
I didn't know I was Diabetic but looking back, I can see that the Insulin Resistance that precedes it, was clearly happening.
About the sugar thing, 'highs follow lows'...in other words, if there is a breakdown in the signalling system somewhere, your blood sugar can go high, then bottom out and go very low. It should be noted that this does NOT happen to everyone. Just because you eat sweet things, doesn't mean you will have this issue.
As a matter of fact, the body is very efficient at making sure this does NOT happen. It's only a problem, when it's a problem -__-
This rebound isn't really complicated to explain, but outside of the scope of this post for now. I don't know anything about your medical history, your doctors had access to that information & both may be trying to tell you something.
Those who have uncontrolled blood sugar problems, also generally have high blood pressure. If you don't know these current numbers A1c, BP, BG, FBG, there's no way to access your risk or current situation.
Again, I'm not saying this is happening to you. However, I would say for sure, you should do some research and see if any of this applies to you. Bloodsugar101.com is a great place to start, click on the link that says something like 'how diabetes develops'.
Also, people with blood sugar issues need to watch carbs specifically, sugar is a carb.
Good luck.
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I have similar reactions due to my low blood pressure...easily taken care of by staying hydrated....
As for the sugar eh...I eat a whole chocolate bar everynight and never have had issues.
Question though. What's a whole bar? 200 calories or 2000 calories of the stuff? The sheer quantity might help explain the OP's issues
I can eat 6 cupcakes and be fine. I can eat 200g of chocolate and be fine. I can eat a whole can of caramel and be fine. Or a whole pint of ice cream. But not on the same day.
The challenge I had with my friend had us eat A LOT of sugar. I myself ate a whole cake with frosting, 400g chocolate, half a tray of fudge and a 200g of cookies. I got sick later that night, after which the blackout followed. Next day I was fine.
I do have anemia so I suppose that can contribute. But that's why I said it takes a lot of sugar to have any effect on me. So I don't know I don't eat as much as that challenge everyday. My weekly goal is never more than 100-200g over if it's over at all.
I guess I can also understand the low BP because looking at my diary, for weeks and weeks I have never once hit sodium. I don't even hit half (it's because I cook my own food) and I drink tons of water.0 -
Also these doctors are not my own. The one back in my town is, but he's old and doesn't give much attention to you and also asks a lot of money for the 5 minutes half diagnose he gives you.
I was visiting someone away from home, and she suggested I should try their doctors. I've never went to the Dr with this problem believe it or not, but she noticed it when I got up and advised me to go. So actually they don't really know anything about me.0 -
TheKingsChampion wrote: »Also these doctors are not my own. The one back in my town is, but he's old and doesn't give much attention to you and also asks a lot of money for the 5 minutes half diagnose he gives you.
I was visiting someone away from home, and she suggested I should try their doctors. I've never went to the Dr with this problem believe it or not, but she noticed it when I got up and advised me to go. So actually they don't really know anything about me.
And neither do we.
All we can do is offer you a tidbit here or there if you care to investigate.
Good luck.
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They know about the human body. I think you should find a primary care doctor who's willing to spend quality time with you. Doesn't have to be long per se, but answering your questions, making you feel comfortable, etc.
Eh... I suspect that much sugar would have some sort of negative effect on anyone, personally0 -
2 things strike me here...
1) common sense. if you're eating so much sugar that you're blacking out, then cut back on the sugar. Do we really need a medical diagnosis here?
2) medical expertise. A doctor examined you, saw you have low blood pressure, and made a recommendation based on that. Why on earth would you question that?
Like one of the previous posters said - do both. Cut back on the sugar (don't eliminate it completely, just cut back), AND deal with the blood pressure issue. I don't see how either of those things are life changing scenarios. Perhaps you're just looking for someone to tell you to keep eating crazy amounts of chocolate???
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2 things strike me here...
1) common sense. if you're eating so much sugar that you're blacking out, then cut back on the sugar. Do we really need a medical diagnosis here?
2) medical expertise. A doctor examined you, saw you have low blood pressure, and made a recommendation based on that. Why on earth would you question that?
Like one of the previous posters said - do both. Cut back on the sugar (don't eliminate it completely, just cut back), AND deal with the blood pressure issue. I don't see how either of those things are life changing scenarios. Perhaps you're just looking for someone to tell you to keep eating crazy amounts of chocolate???
Common sense at it's finest, right here.
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TheKingsChampion wrote: »The challenge I had with my friend had us eat A LOT of sugar. I myself ate a whole cake with frosting, 400g chocolate, half a tray of fudge and a 200g of cookies. I got sick later that night, after which the blackout followed. Next day I was fine.
I feel like there might be some bigger issues at play, here, besides simply blacking out.
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I used to black out at the gym. My doctor ran tests and found out I was eating almost NO protein which was causing crazy blood sugar issues. Once I gave up vegetarianism (I just wasn't good at it), I stopped blacking out or "getting dizzy and seeing black." But that's just my experience.
I've also had the low blood-pressure type of dizziness caused by lack of sodium and that was usually only when I stood up from sitting/laying down. I concur - go get more tests just to be sure.0 -
Perhaps you're just looking for someone to tell you to keep eating crazy amounts of chocolate???
Not really. It's just the sugar diagnose was out of place. The reason I listed the challenge and the sugar blackout was to explain how much it would actually take to give me the symptoms I'm experiencing.
I don't eat that much and I don't have any symptoms whatsoever from eating 100g of chocolate. There's no energy surge and no slump either.
But the sugar doctor said I had to eliminate all sugar (even fruit) and it didn't make sense to me because of that.
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TheKingsChampion wrote: »The challenge I had with my friend had us eat A LOT of sugar. I myself ate a whole cake with frosting, 400g chocolate, half a tray of fudge and a 200g of cookies. I got sick later that night, after which the blackout followed. Next day I was fine.
I feel like there might be some bigger issues at play, here, besides simply blacking out.
Don't worry. Was a celebration which gave birth to the challenge. Doesn't happen often. But I always used to think I was "immune" to the effects of too much sugar since I can tolerate so much without any effects. I certainly saw my limits that night Lol.
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I agree...bigger issues at play for sure.TheKingsChampion wrote: »TheKingsChampion wrote: »The challenge I had with my friend had us eat A LOT of sugar. I myself ate a whole cake with frosting, 400g chocolate, half a tray of fudge and a 200g of cookies. I got sick later that night, after which the blackout followed. Next day I was fine.
I feel like there might be some bigger issues at play, here, besides simply blacking out.
Don't worry. Was a celebration which gave birth to the challenge. Doesn't happen often. But I always used to think I was "immune" to the effects of too much sugar since I can tolerate so much without any effects. I certainly saw my limits that night Lol.
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I'm surprised neither mentioned your anemia. I had anemia with all three of my pregnancies and every time my most dramatic symptom was getting very dizzy when I stood up and feeling like I was going to black out.0
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Get a new doctor and explain your symptoms and get a full physical including blood work.0
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