The trainer pissed me off!
rosiemtz75
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I have been going to local chain gym for the past week. I have been so pumped to get going again. This gym offered one free training session. I took them up on it. I knew there would be a sales pitch later on and was I in for a treat.
This young 20 something year old kept pushing me to sign up today. I kindly explained my partner was out of the country and this is something I need to discuss with him. His response was "Do you need permission to purchase shoes too?" I was appalled. I was not going to let him talk down to me. I told him he was coming off to strong like an oily car salesman. I had nothing to prove to him but only myself. I also let him know that his body language screamed disappointment in losing a sale. He must have gone on and on about people he sees in and out who either injure themselves or don't see the changes they hoped for. I am an adult. I can make my own choices. If he approaches me once again. I will talk to the manager.
It makes me wonder that they are trained that way. Sixty dollars an hour is no drop in a bucket.
This young 20 something year old kept pushing me to sign up today. I kindly explained my partner was out of the country and this is something I need to discuss with him. His response was "Do you need permission to purchase shoes too?" I was appalled. I was not going to let him talk down to me. I told him he was coming off to strong like an oily car salesman. I had nothing to prove to him but only myself. I also let him know that his body language screamed disappointment in losing a sale. He must have gone on and on about people he sees in and out who either injure themselves or don't see the changes they hoped for. I am an adult. I can make my own choices. If he approaches me once again. I will talk to the manager.
It makes me wonder that they are trained that way. Sixty dollars an hour is no drop in a bucket.
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rosiemtz75 wrote: »I have been going to local chain gym for the past week. I have been so pumped to get going again. This gym offered one free training session. I took them up on it. I knew there would be a sales pitch later on and was I in for a treat.
This young 20 something year old kept pushing me to sign up today. I kindly explained my partner was out of the country and this is something I need to discuss with him. His response was "Do you need permission to purchase shoes too?" I was appalled. I was not going to let him talk down to me. I told him he was coming off to strong like an oily car salesman. I had nothing to prove to him but only myself. I also let him know that his body language screamed disappointment in losing a sale. He must have gone on and on about people he sees in and out who either injure themselves or don't see the changes they hoped for. I am an adult. I can make my own choices. If he approaches me once again. I will talk to the manager.
It makes me wonder that they are trained that way. Sixty dollars an hour is no drop in a bucket.
That's dreadful!
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rosiemtz75 wrote: »I have been going to local chain gym for the past week. I have been so pumped to get going again. This gym offered one free training session. I took them up on it. I knew there would be a sales pitch later on and was I in for a treat.
This young 20 something year old kept pushing me to sign up today. I kindly explained my partner was out of the country and this is something I need to discuss with him. His response was "Do you need permission to purchase shoes too?" I was appalled. I was not going to let him talk down to me. I told him he was coming off to strong like an oily car salesman. I had nothing to prove to him but only myself. I also let him know that his body language screamed disappointment in losing a sale. He must have gone on and on about people he sees in and out who either injure themselves or don't see the changes they hoped for. I am an adult. I can make my own choices. If he approaches me once again. I will talk to the manager.
It makes me wonder that they are trained that way. Sixty dollars an hour is no drop in a bucket.
Seeing your location, now I need to know---which chain?
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Anyone trying to sell you anything...
"No thanks."
(They carry on)
"No, I'm not interested."
End of conversation.
It took me long time to realise and feel comfortable with a direct negative - I think women are socialised out of it in particular. I used to end up giving excuses and reasons, but these are just routes into questioning you more. I have even been known to use 'What part of 'no' didn't you understand? Was it the 'n' part or the 'o' part?' If they make some comment like 'all of it' I say 'Okay well, no means the opposite of yes. It means stop asking me.'
I used to date an experienced salesman who claimed he could find a way to keep anyone talking while he changed their mind about the product but even he admitted he had no comeback to a direct 'no'.0 -
I smile and say no, too - it really does work.
I'm sorry that you had such a bad experience0 -
"His response was "Do you need permission to purchase shoes too?""
I'm going to go WAY out on a limb here, and say this guy is a terrible person to be in a relationship with. Anyone who thinks it's degrading to coordinate decisions with your partner is not someone you want to be in an LTR with.0 -
rosiemtz75 wrote: »His response was "Do you need permission to purchase shoes too?"
Had he said that to me, my response would have been, "Annnnnd just lost a sale. Well done."
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rosiemtz75 wrote: »His response was "Do you need permission to purchase shoes too?" I was appalled.
anyone who would be swayed by that kind of condescending holery really does need permission before buying anything more complicated than a soda from a vending machine.
one of the reasons i chose planet fitness is because they don't push you on ANYTHING. they wait for you to come to them with questions, whether it's about sessions with a trainer or any of their other services. if i want or need something, i'm smart enough to know where to go. other than that, they leave me alone and let me do my thing.
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Oh yeah, planet fitness. lol.0
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I must be the only one not phased by that.... but I do agree it's unprofessional and tacky.0
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looks like you know where you WONT get a personal trainer if you get one!0
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The guy at my gym told me I should sacrifice my already stretched-thin-reward of going out to dinner in order to reach my goals and get personal training.
I eat out once a week to stay sane.
He proceeded to question how serious I was about my fitness goals because I wouldn't buy.
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meridianova wrote: »
If you actually lift weights, as your target is well known and respected for around here, you would understand his comment and the poor judgement of your defensive response. Carry on.0 -
meridianova wrote: »
sure.
Don't get me wrong, PF is a great training step. It can potentially help someone who is a complete neophyte get introduced to the fun that is testing oneself.
As a business though, they are even more cynical than I, and I personally feel, toxic for their customers. 0 -
mantium999 wrote: »meridianova wrote: »
If you actually lift weights, as your target is well known and respected for around here, you would understand her comment and the poor judgement of your defensive response. Carry on.
then maybe her comment could have been phrased in a less derisive, more "let me share my experience with you" manner. my response was appropriate for the level of respect she showed me.
despite the fact that i owe you no explanations, i am not a weight lifter and have never claimed to be. i do circuit/resistance training to preserve my lean body mass, help with overall strength and endurance, and simply because i enjoy it. my choice of gym and reasons for picking it have exactly zero impact on her or anyone else on this forum, and since i wasn't asking for advice in the first place, her response was inappropriate.
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meridianova wrote: »
sure.
Don't get me wrong, PF is a great training step. It can potentially help someone who is a complete neophyte get introduced to the fun that is testing oneself.
As a business though, they are even more cynical than I, and I personally feel, toxic for their customers.
Do you know much about the chain gyms? There is one near me called fitness 19 I was going to check out. I am a very beginning beginner.0 -
I just stuck my hand down my pants to check.meridianova wrote: »mantium999 wrote: »meridianova wrote: »
If you actually lift weights, as your target is well known and respected for around here, you would understand her comment and the poor judgement of your defensive response. Carry on.
then maybe her comment could have been phrased in a less derisive, more "let me share my experience with you" manner. my response was appropriate for the level of respect she showed me.
Still a dude. LOL.
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Only a few. Never heard of that one though. I've done stints in 24 hour and Gold's though, both have always been effective enough, right now I use the Y as one of the gyms I use.meridianova wrote: »
sure.
Don't get me wrong, PF is a great training step. It can potentially help someone who is a complete neophyte get introduced to the fun that is testing oneself.
As a business though, they are even more cynical than I, and I personally feel, toxic for their customers.
Do you know much about the chain gyms? There is one near me called fitness 19 I was going to check out. I am a very beginning beginner.
Just go there and check the vibe, make sure the gear that you need is there. If they're professing a no-judgement zone, but then have an alarm with which they use to judge others... you might want to move on.
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JeriAnne84 wrote: »rosiemtz75 wrote: »His response was "Do you need permission to purchase shoes too?"
Had he said that to me, my response would have been, "Annnnnd just lost a sale. Well done."
Ha, great come back. I'd want to say something similar, make sure he knows that kind of attitude isn't going to work AT ALL.0 -
My trainer pisses me off frequently...just can't get him to agree with me. It's me. 0
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Yeah, I had a similar experience. The trainer/sales rep was trying to raise money for the olympics, was driven, and was completely confident of his success not over his own body but in sales, too. He had obviously been trained in pressure sales tactics. Ummm, NO.0
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Respect to the kid's aggressive effort, but there are lines you just don't cross in sales.
I have been in sales and marketing all my life, and I must first sell myself before I can sell you. And some folks need a good push while others need to have a relationship first.
Don't hold a grudge against anybody for being passionate about their services but a bit awkward.
At day's end do what seems the best for you.
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I just stuck my hand down my pants to check.meridianova wrote: »mantium999 wrote: »meridianova wrote: »
If you actually lift weights, as your target is well known and respected for around here, you would understand her comment and the poor judgement of your defensive response. Carry on.
then maybe her comment could have been phrased in a less derisive, more "let me share my experience with you" manner. my response was appropriate for the level of respect she showed me.
Still a dude. LOL.
sorry... i've only seen "jo" used to refer to girls. and it's the internet.
thank you for the response, though. can i ask what you mean by a cynical business model and being toxic to their customers? at the moment, what they provide is pretty much exactly what i need and am looking for, but when/if i do get ready to move to something more intensive, it would be good to know what to look for and avoid.
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I just stuck my hand down my pants to check.meridianova wrote: »mantium999 wrote: »meridianova wrote: »
If you actually lift weights, as your target is well known and respected for around here, you would understand her comment and the poor judgement of your defensive response. Carry on.
then maybe her comment could have been phrased in a less derisive, more "let me share my experience with you" manner. my response was appropriate for the level of respect she showed me.
Still a dude. LOL.
Sorry db, the confusion was my fault. I mis-typed "her" when my jacked up phone showed Jo's profile picture next to your post. Quickly realized the mistake, and edited it within 30 seconds, but not fast enough it seems.0 -
meridianova wrote: »mantium999 wrote: »meridianova wrote: »
If you actually lift weights, as your target is well known and respected for around here, you would understand her comment and the poor judgement of your defensive response. Carry on.
then maybe her comment could have been phrased in a less derisive, more "let me share my experience with you" manner. my response was appropriate for the level of respect she showed me.
despite the fact that i owe you no explanations, i am not a weight lifter and have never claimed to be. i do circuit/resistance training to preserve my lean body mass, help with overall strength and endurance, and simply because i enjoy it. my choice of gym and reasons for picking it have exactly zero impact on her or anyone else on this forum, and since i wasn't asking for advice in the first place, her response was inappropriate.
I appreciate your perspective, just find it humorous that such a simple laugh at planet fitness would cause a person to become so defensive and illicit you to elevate it with such a response. It was a jab at your gym, not you. It's Friday, ease up a bit.0 -
rosiemtz75 wrote: »"Do you need permission to purchase shoes too?" I was appalled.
..I will talk to the manager.
I would have gone right to the manager as soon as the demeaning words came out of that guy's mouth. It's none of his business how you and your mate handle your money.0 -
yeah, it basically made my point though. LOLmantium999 wrote: »meridianova wrote: »mantium999 wrote: »meridianova wrote: »
If you actually lift weights, as your target is well known and respected for around here, you would understand her comment and the poor judgement of your defensive response. Carry on.
then maybe her comment could have been phrased in a less derisive, more "let me share my experience with you" manner. my response was appropriate for the level of respect she showed me.
despite the fact that i owe you no explanations, i am not a weight lifter and have never claimed to be. i do circuit/resistance training to preserve my lean body mass, help with overall strength and endurance, and simply because i enjoy it. my choice of gym and reasons for picking it have exactly zero impact on her or anyone else on this forum, and since i wasn't asking for advice in the first place, her response was inappropriate.
I appreciate your perspective, just find it humorous that such a simple laugh at planet fitness would cause a person to become so defensive and illicit you to elevate it with such a response. It was a jab at your gym, not you. It's Friday, ease up a bit.
Also, I really hope people aren't confusing me with JoRocka... she's cool, I'm an insufferable a-hole.
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PaulHalicki wrote: »rosiemtz75 wrote: »"Do you need permission to purchase shoes too?" I was appalled.
..I will talk to the manager.
I would have gone right to the manager as soon as the demeaning words came out of that guy's mouth. It's none of his business how you and your mate handle your money.
Fact. And especially because personal trainers can get expensive, shouldn't you talk to your partner about whether the household finances can handle that cost?
This trainer came off as a real jerk.
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I completely agree with you!meridianova wrote: »rosiemtz75 wrote: »His response was "Do you need permission to purchase shoes too?" I was appalled.
anyone who would be swayed by that kind of condescending holery really does need permission before buying anything more complicated than a soda from a vending machine.
one of the reasons i chose planet fitness is because they don't push you on ANYTHING. they wait for you to come to them with questions, whether it's about sessions with a trainer or any of their other services. if i want or need something, i'm smart enough to know where to go. other than that, they leave me alone and let me do my thing.
I started at planet fitness, and they don't pressure you to do anything! They are very welcoming. The trainer my second day there when I was upgrading my membership was standing at the desk and introduced himself. He told me if I want to train with him or have any questions about workouts to come find him. Which I thought was great of him, I took the offer up and I did train with him. I was talking to a person that trains with him a lot and she said she loves it. I will definitely be using him everyone and then!
A gym I tried before, was only for personal training. After my trial session, they kept trying to shove sessions down my throat I felt like. Always bringing it up, they did text me every now and then. They have stopped now..
Planet fitness I have seen as the best route for me. It's cheap, they have everything you need. You don't need every type of machine in the world to work out.
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As soon as it started off with "this young 20 something year old" it wasn't going to end well. He has not learned anything in the art of sales yet.0
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