Paleolithic (Caveman) Diet

neandermagnon wrote: »

Wheelhouse15 wrote: »

BigGuy47 wrote: »

neandermagnon wrote: »

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So if you really want to recreate the health benefits of palaeolithic life in modern times, then you should not allow yourself to eat until you've done exercise that imitates hunting and/or gathering.

Does walking to the grocery store count?

Only if you are carrying a spear and wearing a loin cloth.

Palaeolithic people probably didn't wear loin cloths. Lower palaeolithic people would have gone naked. Middle palaeolithc people had clothing but it almost certainly was mainly functional, probably was decorative to some extent but it's unlikely they had modern ideas about modesty, and a loincloth is completely pointless from a functional point of view, and isn't that good from a decorative point of view as it covers what's often considered to be the most sexually attractive parts of the human body. Upper palaeolithic people were culturally diverse enough that some of them may have worn something akin to a loin cloth, but going by modern hunter-gatherers, most probably didn't.

So for a really authentic palaeo walk to the grocery store experience, you should either go naked, or wear an animal hide around your shoulders to keep warm/keep the rain off, but not worry about covering your genitalia. You can decorate it with red ochre if you like though, or charcoal.

Lol I knew you wouldn't let that anachronism go by!

KimWillBeThin81 wrote: »

I could never go palio or primal. I couldn't hunt for my food, I would never survive, besides I don't even know where sandwiches live.

The magical Isle of Sandwich, ruled by the Earl of Sandwich: Sir Loin.

I found that in doing the Paleo diet, I effectively lowered both carbs and sugar in my diet! It made it a lot easier to hit a good number of the fats and proteins that normally I had a hard time with before. Paleo diet made it a lot easier to stay within my calorie limit too, as a meal of only meat and veggies is pretty low cal compared to sandwiches and such, and still filling.

PrizePopple wrote: »

ndj1979 wrote: »

rowlandsw wrote: »

KimWillBeThin81 wrote: »

I could never go palio or primal. I couldn't hunt for my food, I would never survive, besides I don't even know where sandwiches live.

The magical Isle of Sandwich, ruled by the Earl of Sandwich: Sir Loin.

is that next to unicornia…?

I hear unicorn is tasty.

if unicorns existed, neanderthals would have hunted and eaten them

Dave198lbs wrote: »

SnuggleSmacks wrote: »

Sooner or later, you will have to find a way to develop a healthy relationship with your food. All of it. Even the ice cream and bread.

not really. Deciding you do not want to eat something does not mean you have an UNhealthy relationship with that food item. There are no absolutes like the above.

You disagree that sooner or later you have to develop a healthy relationship with your food in order to eat in a healthy manner? The specific examples were just that...examples. So, if you didn't like ice cream, or were lactose intolerant, obviously you would not eat ice cream...but the point was that cutting out carbs is not healthy in the long term, as evidenced by scientific studies, and so sooner or later you will have to deal with your relationship to them.

emily_stew wrote: »

daynerz wrote: »

In terms of health Paleo is great. No diabetes and cancer in those days, makes sense to eat this way. Great way to eat, I had done it before. Primal way to eat, not a fad diet, it's actually the all natural way. Most people are whiny and emotionally attached to food and remain in denial while they keep eating their unnatural burgers.

Give this approach a go, body composition will change. I had great results, no brain fog, lots of energy, less toxins. Make sure to eat greens if you are a big animal protein eater. The end of the day, it matters how balanced on the PH scale your body is, a body too acidic (burgers, meats) is one for disease... however greens and fruits will even it out, being alkaline.

GL, give it a go

Do you have any proof for any one of your absurd statements?

I bolded the dumbest of your statements for you. What is an unnatural burger? Is it those plastic burgers you find in children's play sets? Because you're right, those are pretty gross.

I guess this would count as a natural chicken burger -- as long as it's free range, right?

SideSteel wrote: »

chris_claxton wrote: »

Hi all,

Has anyone had any experience with the Paleolithic diet? I've read a lot of things about it but I think cutting out diary would be quite difficult - I've heard that calcium levels are lower in people on this diet (which isn't good for bones!)...

I think it's a good idea to stick to a diet comprised of mostly whole and nutrient dense foods and the paleo diet does tend to do this but this feature is not unique to the paleo diet. The elimination of specific food items are without merit in many cases, so an alternative that you could consider would be to adopt a strategy where the majority of your diet consists of whole and nutrient dense foods, but you don't abide by any particular nonsensical rules about arbitrary food restrictions based on inaccurate records of "what our ancestors ate".

That way you still reap the benefits of a nutrient dense diet without too much junk food (but some, if you prefer) but you don't have as many rules/restrictions.

For your sake daynerz send a friend request to SideSteel and listen and research for yourself what he says. He's one of the most reasonable people on this site and will help you reach your goal of becoming a decent nutritionist using critical thinking.

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chris_claxton wrote: »

Hi all,

Has anyone had any experience with the Paleolithic diet? I've read a lot of things about it but I think cutting out diary would be quite difficult - I've heard that calcium levels are lower in people on this diet (which isn't good for bones!)...

I thought I would simply answer OP's original question - yes Chris I have had experience with the Palaeolithic diet but only in recent years. For close on 20 years, maybe more, I have tried to eliminate processed food & artificial foods from my diet. This came about because I had allergic, asthmatic children and a type 1 diabetic husband. I always believed in natural foods being more healthy like butter instead of margarine, that sort of thing and we always tried to eat plenty of meat, chicken, fish, vegetables and fruit. We still drink alcohol and enjoyed chocolate and sweets occasionally.

For most of that time, wheat was not excluded from our diets. My daughter having grown up eating this way and still finding herself having health issues with asthma and allergies, did her own research and was tested and found she was not only allergic to wheat, she was lactose intolerant.

When she was home, I found myself cutting more and more wheat out of our diets and I found that I too felt a lot better if I didn't eat bread. No more headaches, foggy brain and stomach issues. I no longer felt bloated and slightly ill after a meal.

There are lots of styles of diets that are similar to how I eat but Primal/Paleo is the diet and style that I aspire to. I want to eventually cut wheat out of my diet completely and eliminate added refined sugar. I am not sure I will ever get rid of dairy, as I don't think it effects me in any way and I think I would miss eating cheese. For those who do cut out dairy there are heaps of ways to get enough calcium. For instance, Chia seeds have 5 times more calcium than milk.

I keep hearing about this restrictive eating. I honestly don't see that as we eat a wide variety of food and the recipes are endless. It is mostly artificial and processed food that is eliminated from our menus and as I don't use a lot of chemical to clean, I rarely need to go down the centre isles in a supermarket.

I really don't see what I am giving up apart from a lot of crappy, unhealthy food that my body doesn't need. And as for this caveman stuff - to me that just means eat as close to nature as possible, eat local and in season fruits and vegetables, fresh herbs, fish, grass fed meat and free range chickens.

So Chris, I thoroughly recommend that you read a decent Paleo book as I believe we are going to see a health revolution over the next few years and a return to healthy eating with more and more people turning their back on junk food. Listen to your body as food is your medicine.