supplements?
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Supplements are largely a huge waste.
Just eat lean meats, fruits and veggies, nuts, whole grains, and raw dairy.
And beware the herd looking for something magic as well as the scammer trying to recruit you into his MLM supplement pyramid. .0 -
BenjaminMFP88 wrote: »BenjaminMFP88 wrote: »jamandlettuce wrote: »Just wondering what supplements everyone uses and what works well for bulking?
I'm currently using creatine, glutamine, zma, bcaa, cla, raspberry ketones, omega 3 oils and a multi bit alondside my protein shakes....
Is there anything else that would help make solid lean gains?
Btw I cant use caffeine based pre work outs
Creatine, Omega 3, Multi. I'm thinking about picking up some BCAA's but havne't made the leap yet. I guess I'm also guilty of falling for the preworkout fad as I take NO Xplode as well...
BCAAs are only necessary if you lift and remain fasted for a long time after (eg: I lift at 5 am and don't eat my first meal until 11 am or noon). Otherwise, they're not worth the money either.
I mainly use them because while I only go to the gym 3 days a week, I never want to leave once i'm there
I could live at the gym. Sigh.
I kind of do. I lift at home. My power cage, bench, barbell and plates are an elegant addition to my dining room furniture!
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BenjaminMFP88 wrote: »BenjaminMFP88 wrote: »jamandlettuce wrote: »Just wondering what supplements everyone uses and what works well for bulking?
I'm currently using creatine, glutamine, zma, bcaa, cla, raspberry ketones, omega 3 oils and a multi bit alondside my protein shakes....
Is there anything else that would help make solid lean gains?
Btw I cant use caffeine based pre work outs
Creatine, Omega 3, Multi. I'm thinking about picking up some BCAA's but havne't made the leap yet. I guess I'm also guilty of falling for the preworkout fad as I take NO Xplode as well...
BCAAs are only necessary if you lift and remain fasted for a long time after (eg: I lift at 5 am and don't eat my first meal until 11 am or noon). Otherwise, they're not worth the money either.
I mainly use them because while I only go to the gym 3 days a week, I never want to leave once i'm there
I could live at the gym. Sigh.
I kind of do. I lift at home. My power cage, bench, barbell and plates are an elegant addition to my dining room furniture!
No fair! My dining room is my kid's play room
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On most days I eat in excess of about 3K a day of which only around 400 calories of that is supplements in the form of whey protein powder and creatine. Otherwise, its all food - wonderful wholesome food.0
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BenjaminMFP88 wrote: »BenjaminMFP88 wrote: »jamandlettuce wrote: »Just wondering what supplements everyone uses and what works well for bulking?
I'm currently using creatine, glutamine, zma, bcaa, cla, raspberry ketones, omega 3 oils and a multi bit alondside my protein shakes....
Is there anything else that would help make solid lean gains?
Btw I cant use caffeine based pre work outs
Creatine, Omega 3, Multi. I'm thinking about picking up some BCAA's but havne't made the leap yet. I guess I'm also guilty of falling for the preworkout fad as I take NO Xplode as well...
BCAAs are only necessary if you lift and remain fasted for a long time after (eg: I lift at 5 am and don't eat my first meal until 11 am or noon). Otherwise, they're not worth the money either.
I mainly use them because while I only go to the gym 3 days a week, I never want to leave once i'm there
I could live at the gym. Sigh.
I kind of do. I lift at home. My power cage, bench, barbell and plates are an elegant addition to my dining room furniture!
Rub it in why don't ya Sara
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BenjaminMFP88 wrote: »BenjaminMFP88 wrote: »jamandlettuce wrote: »Just wondering what supplements everyone uses and what works well for bulking?
I'm currently using creatine, glutamine, zma, bcaa, cla, raspberry ketones, omega 3 oils and a multi bit alondside my protein shakes....
Is there anything else that would help make solid lean gains?
Btw I cant use caffeine based pre work outs
Creatine, Omega 3, Multi. I'm thinking about picking up some BCAA's but havne't made the leap yet. I guess I'm also guilty of falling for the preworkout fad as I take NO Xplode as well...
BCAAs are only necessary if you lift and remain fasted for a long time after (eg: I lift at 5 am and don't eat my first meal until 11 am or noon). Otherwise, they're not worth the money either.
I mainly use them because while I only go to the gym 3 days a week, I never want to leave once i'm there
I could live at the gym. Sigh.
I kind of do. I lift at home. My power cage, bench, barbell and plates are an elegant addition to my dining room furniture!
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A trainer recommending supplements (with the exception of protein, creatine, a multi and fish oil) is more than likely not well versed in nutrition, but echoing the broscience from his/her peers or hearsay information they really didn't bother researching.I've been pondering this, too, after my trainer recommended I start using supplements. I already use the EAS protein powder and love it. I don't feel low energy but when I do, I pop a vitamin B tab and feel great after. I dunno. I don't want to dump money into something when it's not necessary.
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A trainer recommending supplements (with the exception of protein, creatine, a multi and fish oil) is more than likely not well versed in nutrition, but echoing the broscience from his/her peers or hearsay information they really didn't bother researching.I've been pondering this, too, after my trainer recommended I start using supplements. I already use the EAS protein powder and love it. I don't feel low energy but when I do, I pop a vitamin B tab and feel great after. I dunno. I don't want to dump money into something when it's not necessary.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
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I literally have whey protein to make up protein intake and that's it. I get fish oils from actual oily fish nearly everyday. I don't have the funds to buy loads of supplements. My muscles are coming along slowly. Hair, nails and skin are good, I feel healthy so I don't feel supplements are necessary. I think sometimes we can over complicate things0
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A trainer recommending supplements (with the exception of protein, creatine, a multi and fish oil) is more than likely not well versed in nutrition, but echoing the broscience from his/her peers or hearsay information they really didn't bother researching.I've been pondering this, too, after my trainer recommended I start using supplements. I already use the EAS protein powder and love it. I don't feel low energy but when I do, I pop a vitamin B tab and feel great after. I dunno. I don't want to dump money into something when it's not necessary.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
She and I talked more about the supps and she agreed with me that I don't need anything else at this time because I feel great after my workouts and such. I was concerned initially because I don't want anybody to push something I don't need on me. I still feel great, so still not buying anything extra.0 -
i would say a creatine and whey protein, and the basic multivitamins every day ,protein after training to recovery well.0
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Vitamin B complex, Vitamin C, and magnesium. Then a couple hours later, Calcium, Vitamin D and iron. This is by my doctor's orders; you may want to have your blood levels checked so you know if you need supplements at all and if so which ones.0
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Hi I am new to weight training. My gym coach suggested me to add a BCAA during my workout. I bought Scivation Xtend BCAA Grape escape.
Could you please tell me its advantages and disadvantages.0 -
Creatine works well (bulking or otherwise).
As mitymax says - get your nutrition on point first, then worry about supplements. Also, make sure your training is a good solid progressive loading one.
This is a really good video from Helms at 3DMJ re what supplements are worth taking.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tp3ZIFKkLg
I just take a multi (when I remember) and creatine (when I remember). Fish oil is also good, although I do not take as I am a vegetarian.
I use whey but I do not really consider it a supplement.
I like this chart a lot, definitely will watch the video. Solid advice right here OP. Supps are what you worry about if you have everything else dialed in exactly. Easy to get caught up in the hype and forget to just eat correctly. I will say creatine and pre-wo are the only things that have given me a noticeable effect compared to training without them.0 -
I use Creatine (5g/day), Beta Alanine and my Whey Protein to supplement meals.0
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satisatisati wrote: »Hi I am new to weight training. My gym coach suggested me to add a BCAA during my workout. I bought Scivation Xtend BCAA Grape escape.
Could you please tell me its advantages and disadvantages.
I like that BCAA, I use the same.
On top of the BCAA's it also has glutamine added in....
Honestly speaking, if you are getting adequate protein in your diet, and not in a caloric deficit, then the need for it is not really warranted.
I use it because I do Intermittent Fasting, so I am working out after having not eaten for at least 14 hours....
And the BCAAs help to protect muscle, so it is not a primary source of energy when exercising...0 -
I have recently started trying USP TEST Powder.
I did a 4 week cycle, now I am in the 4 week off cycle, and will add it back into my routine on March 8th.
My first 4 week cycle, It seemed like it helped....but I was coming off having been sick w/ bronchitis and pneumonia....and lost 11 pounds in 3 weeks.
So I am looking forward to my next cycle on it....and since I am doing my cut, seeing how it works with that...
So my supps will be::
Creatine (I need to remember to get some)
USP TEST Powder
BCAAs (Xtend, this is a constant for me)
Controlled Labs - Orange Triad multi-vitamin
Fish oil when I remember
And whey protein if I am in a pinch and need the protein
If I am not liking my progress by end of April, I may add in Cellucor's Super HD.0 -
I have recently started trying USP TEST Powder.
I did a 4 week cycle, now I am in the 4 week off cycle, and will add it back into my routine on March 8th.
My first 4 week cycle, It seemed like it helped....but I was coming off having been sick w/ bronchitis and pneumonia....and lost 11 pounds in 3 weeks.
So I am looking forward to my next cycle on it....and since I am doing my cut, seeing how it works with that...
So my supps will be::
Creatine (I need to remember to get some)
USP TEST Powder
BCAAs (Xtend, this is a constant for me)
Controlled Labs - Orange Triad multi-vitamin
Fish oil when I remember
And whey protein if I am in a pinch and need the protein
If I am not liking my progress by end of April, I may add in Cellucor's Super HD.
So what are you using during cut and maintenance phases?0 -
Right now, just BCAA's
And whey protein if I am not hitting my protein goals.
and coffee. 0 -
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Totally agree!!!! Things are not right in the world without that stuff.....0
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Creatine works well (bulking or otherwise).
As mitymax says - get your nutrition on point first, then worry about supplements. Also, make sure your training is a good solid progressive loading one.
This is a really good video from Helms at 3DMJ re what supplements are worth taking.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tp3ZIFKkLg
I just take a multi (when I remember) and creatine (when I remember). Fish oil is also good, although I do not take as I am a vegetarian.
I use whey but I do not really consider it a supplement.
Ah the Eric Helms pyramid!!! YES!!!
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Omega 3 oil, multi vit, and vit c twice a day (it's water soluble and only lasts 12 hours).
Along with all the other stuff I do and DONT do lol it keeps me going through the endurance event which is my life.....0 -
HowYour diet will need to be right....for whatever your goals are. Supps won't do crap, if your diet is crap.
I think that CLA and Raspberry Ketones are a waste of money.
Haven't done any reading on ZMA, so not sure there.
Creatine is a good supp, I use him from time to time....
Glutamine....I can go either way on that, I think you would do better to get a BCAA that includes glutamine.....I use Xtend, by Scivation.
Fish oils are good, make sure they are quality ones....meaning they have a decent amt. per serving
For me and my supps
Scivation Xtend (BCAA)
Scivation Psycho (pre-workout)
Whey Protein, I like Met-RX
Omega Oils, using one by Met-RX right now
Mutlit-Vitamin, I am using Orange Triad, by Controlled Labs, has helped me w/ my joints
How's that pre work out that you use, I'm looking for a new one.0 -
Also to the OP, I don't really suggest getting involved with too many supplements, pre work outs are great, just take a multi vitamin everyday (can be bought anywhere), Creatine is good, I use Creatine HCL made by Concrete, and protein powder. Most protein powders have BCAAs in them. I wouldn't waste your time really all that other stuff. Not until you've seen results starting out, I don't think any of that other stuff makes a difference.0
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HowYour diet will need to be right....for whatever your goals are. Supps won't do crap, if your diet is crap.
I think that CLA and Raspberry Ketones are a waste of money.
Haven't done any reading on ZMA, so not sure there.
Creatine is a good supp, I use him from time to time....
Glutamine....I can go either way on that, I think you would do better to get a BCAA that includes glutamine.....I use Xtend, by Scivation.
Fish oils are good, make sure they are quality ones....meaning they have a decent amt. per serving
For me and my supps
Scivation Xtend (BCAA)
Scivation Psycho (pre-workout)
Whey Protein, I like Met-RX
Omega Oils, using one by Met-RX right now
Mutlit-Vitamin, I am using Orange Triad, by Controlled Labs, has helped me w/ my joints
How's that pre work out that you use, I'm looking for a new one.
Ha...my name is Seth. How funny.
Uh the pre-workout was good, I liked it a lot.
But I am off it now....not sure if I will add it back in at a later time or not.
I tend to have pretty decent workouts if I get some good rest.
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