How to zig zag cals properly/caloric cycling properly
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Thanks for sharing!0
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Do we have to set up for exactly one lb weight loss, can't be 1.5lb?0
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One thing I want to make clear is that the lower your caloric intake the less wiggle room you have to work off of. I have a daily intake of 1940 cals to work from and that is why I was able to do the 300 extra on days 1 and 2 then back to maintenance on day 3. If you have a very low intake of 1200 for women and 1500 for men then you do not have hardly any wiggle room for caloric cycling, as dipping below 1200 is not advisable, and 90% of us out there really should not be on a super low intake like that as you will lose muscle if you are not careful (and I do mean really careful) on what you are taking into your body. I have easily lost fat and continue to do so because I feed my body right with a clean diet, lots of veggies, fruits, and lean meats with a bare minimum of processed foods. This is why I advocate eating healthy/clean it removed nearly every obstacle for fat loss from the body. Fat loss should be something you approach from a health perspective, eating the minimum will not get you the best results despite what many have said in the past. The whole point of the cycling is to confuse the metabolic rate keeping it high while reducing caloric intake. So please, please make sure that you are taking care of your body and not starving it of what it needs. I have received many emails from men and women asking me if they can do the -300 cals on day 1 and 2, and when I look over their intakes with them they can not do that much because their intakes are so low. So here is one example I will post so that you can see what I advised one man/woman to do on different intakes:
Woman: caloric intake 1400 set at a 1 lb/wk loss
days 1 & 2 1250
day 3 1900 (maintenance level)
repeat
Now see in her case a 1250 intake was the lowest I recommended because she had a good diet, rich in veggies/fruits/lean meats. Her biggest problem was drinking her calories with starbucks coffee. So she ditched the high calorie coffee for some honey/cinnamon in it instead. She has lost an additional 6 pounds this way in the last 4 weeks.
Man: caloric intake 1600 cals set at a 1 lb/wk loss
Days 1 & 2 1500
Day 3 2100
In this man's case he was already set at a low intake (was much to low in my opinion but this was what he was set on) so he tried this and it did not work as well for him. So after a week and a half of emails back and forth I convinced him to raise his intake for a week. On the week he did he dropped 2 pounds as compared to the 0.6-0.7 pounds he normally lost. We had tweaked his diet and got him on track, now he is up to 1800 cals a day and losing steadily.
So I want all of you to make sure that you listen to your bodies, use common sense and not apply this in the wrong way and use it as another useful tool to help shed fat when applied correctly. You do not need to change your daily intake goal at all, just have the deficit left over on day 1 and 2 and then go over on day 3. I still do this and am in the last 10 pounds range now.
So ok I have read the thread ... maybe I'm daft but my question is ... do I use my BMR/cal to maintain my current weight number of 1810cal per day and add or minus 20% from this OR do I have the suggested 1500cal per day for 1.5lb weight loss per week then add or minus 20% from that number ... since according to what I read I understand I should be using 1500cal per day as my starting point ... add about 20% to get my maintence cal and other days minus about 20% to get my low days ...0 -
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Do we have to set up for exactly one lb weight loss, can't be 1.5lb?0
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I like your analogy of the spoiled child (maybe because I feel like a spoiled child fighting this battle:blushing: )
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Great, thankyou!0
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This is a great thread!! I'm still confused, but I'm trying to figure it out!0
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I need to switch things up soon. Will try this!0
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Do I add on my exercise calories to get a new total or just stick to this ratio regardless of exercise?0
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Do I add on my exercise calories to get a new total or just stick to this ratio regardless of exercise?0
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Good info thanks!0
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I'm saving this for later - after I move this is going into effect!0
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I'm sorry I have read and re-read this post and I am still confused
If I set my loss to 1lb per week that sets my calories at 1270 calories
If I choose maintenence at my current weight that sets my calories at 1770
So do I do Day 1, 2 , 4, 5 and Day 7 at 1270 calories
Day 3 and Day 6 at 1770
I was exercising 6 days of the week - How many days should I exercise and what days do you pick (your under days or your maintenece days??)
And do you need to eat ALL your exercise calories back on the days you exercise?
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Sounds interesting, and something I might try to mix things up....0
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http://www.naturalphysiques.com/64/zig-zag-calculator-for-fat-loss-andor-muscle-gain
http://www.mylifestylediet.com/calorie-calculator.php
i found this site that has a calculator, I prefer to keep it simple and use more even numbers though.0 -
Thanks for the straight-forward information. I think that I will give this try.0
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Thanks for sharing all of your helpful knowledge & for helping me set up my zig zag I'll let you know how it goes!
Since I've done it for not quite a week, my next question would be: Do you do the zig zag plan on a regular basis or does your body eventually get used to that pattern? Would you do maybe 2-3 weeks of zig zag followed by a couple weeks of eating your regular MFP daily goal? Thanks again...you are amazing0 -
I wonder why on the http://www.naturalphysiques.com/64/zig-zag-calculator-for-fat-loss-andor-muscle-gain
link that Heather posted, it shows for me a much much higher calorie count then here on MFP ... they says I need 3262cal/day to maintain my weight, 1864cal/day for extreme fat loss and 2563cal/day for regular fat loss, while here on MFP it says 2480cal/day for maintainfg weight, 1740cal/day for 1lb fat loss weekly and 1500cal/day for 1,5lb fat loss and 1240cal/day for 2lb fat loss weekly ... WHY the big differences?0 -
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