Excess carbs "spilling over" into fat?

I was researching bulking macros when I came across an article about creating said nutrient percentages.

One of the things it said was that you should tweak your carb and fat intake based on your body type (ectomorph, mesomorph, endomorph). Basically, decrease carbs and increase fat for endomorphs and do the opposite for ectomorphs.

I suppose the logic behind it, is that because endomorphs have slower metabolisms (whatever that means in this context), a higher carb intake will... become fat?

Is this real or just broscience? Does these body types actually exist?

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PwrLftr82

CoolBeans520 wrote: »

Broscience. Calories in calories out. Each carb and fat is equal to 9 calories. For example if your target fat 98 grams and carbs 350 but you get 100 grams of fat and 360 carbs thats adding 18 extra calories in fat and 90 calories in carbs which equates to 108 extra calories you need to add your daily calorie intake.

Actually, protein and carbs are 4 cals/gram and fat is 9 cals/gram

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CoolBeans520

ndj1979 wrote: »

Tedebearduff wrote: »

I'm curious when all of you came to the conclusion that you know absolutely everything about everything. . .

What......

Wheelhouse15

ndj1979 wrote: »

Wheelhouse15 wrote: »

Any diet plan based on somatotypes, blood types, astrological signs or whatever else they can think of are based on magical thinking and not fact. Some like high fat diets and if they work for you and you can stick with it then by all means go for it but make sure you are doing it for the right reasons and not some "trick".

so you are saying that I should not base my diet off the Mayan calendar...?

Sure, but didn't that end a couple years ago?

Wheelhouse15

__drmerc__ wrote: »

abadvat wrote: »

__drmerc__ wrote: »

abadvat wrote: »

Everybody reacts differently to fat and carbs - try what works best for you, align it with your preference (ei keep all the fat you want but give me carbs - and loads of them. I keep my fats to a basic requirement and fill in with carbs) and move on. It is a trial and error for sometime but eventually you will find your balance!

actually we all react the same way biologically

No we don't - energy output from person to person will be different - then push it to extremes of food intolerance / allergies.... Give the carbs I eat to a celiac person - dies in horrible pain!

You can't have an allergy to carbs or fat

The sad thing is it's a protein, not carbs, that celiac sufferers can't have. Would love to see people actually think about what they post first. $:\$

ninerbuff

AshwinA7 wrote: »

I was researching bulking macros when I came across an article about creating said nutrient percentages.

One of the things it said was that you should tweak your carb and fat intake based on your body type (ectomorph, mesomorph, endomorph). Basically, decrease carbs and increase fat for endomorphs and do the opposite for ectomorphs.

I suppose the logic behind it, is that because endomorphs have slower metabolisms (whatever that means in this context), a higher carb intake will... become fat?

Is this real or just broscience? Does these body types actually exist?

Broscience. Somatotypes aren't even "real" to begin with. They were developed by a psychiatrist (who basically tagged the terminology based on behavior) and have been debunked.
As for "spilling" over, this is an adage used by bodybuilders when they go into competition and based on over carbing, have "blurred" definition.

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PrizePopple

So if it's "broscience" .. does that mean it doesn't apply to chicks?

I'm joking. Please don't hurt me. Here's a peace offering...

ninerbuff

PrizePopple wrote: »

So if it's "broscience" .. does that mean it doesn't apply to chicks?

I'm joking. Please don't hurt me. Here's a peace offering...

Accepted.

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Wheelhouse15

ninerbuff wrote: »

AshwinA7 wrote: »

I was researching bulking macros when I came across an article about creating said nutrient percentages.

One of the things it said was that you should tweak your carb and fat intake based on your body type (ectomorph, mesomorph, endomorph). Basically, decrease carbs and increase fat for endomorphs and do the opposite for ectomorphs.

I suppose the logic behind it, is that because endomorphs have slower metabolisms (whatever that means in this context), a higher carb intake will... become fat?

Is this real or just broscience? Does these body types actually exist?

Broscience. Somatotypes aren't even "real" to begin with. They were developed by a psychiatrist (who basically tagged the terminology based on behavior) and have been debunked.
As for "spilling" over, this is an adage used by bodybuilders when they go into competition and based on over carbing, have "blurred" definition.

A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition

William Sheldon was his name (actually a psychologist) and it was more to do with personality traits when he created them. We studied them as "bad science" in my personality psych class. They have been defeated for decades but bad science never dies.

ninerbuff

MrM27 wrote: »

PrizePopple wrote: »

So if it's "broscience" .. does that mean it doesn't apply to chicks?

I'm joking. Please don't hurt me. Here's a peace offering...

You piece offering is rejected because..........no Half Baked.

Bro..........it's Ben and Jerry's. That's like rejecting free money.

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SnuggleSmacks

My excess carbs are spilling over my waistband. Is that what you mean?

Wheelhouse15

Hope you brought enough for the whole class!

PrizePopple

MrM27 wrote: »

PrizePopple wrote: »

So if it's "broscience" .. does that mean it doesn't apply to chicks?

I'm joking. Please don't hurt me. Here's a peace offering...

You piece offering is rejected because..........no Half Baked.

My favorite wasn't in there either...

Something tells me that I'm going to get the FoYo Cherry Garcia tonight, and I'm not going to feel any shame.

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CoolBeans520

PwrLftr82 wrote: »

CoolBeans520 wrote: »

Broscience. Calories in calories out. Each carb and fat is equal to 9 calories. For example if your target fat 98 grams and carbs 350 but you get 100 grams of fat and 360 carbs thats adding 18 extra calories in fat and 90 calories in carbs which equates to 108 extra calories you need to add your daily calorie intake.

Actually, protein and carbs are 4 cals/gram and fat is 9 cals/gram

Yeah your right it is 4 calories, I was too late to edit it =P
I'm on a very low carb diet and can't think straight =(

MrM27 wrote: »

CoolBeans520 wrote: »

Broscience. Calories in calories out. Each carb and fat is equal to 9 calories. For example if your target fat 98 grams and carbs 350 but you get 100 grams of fat and 360 carbs thats adding 18 extra calories in fat and 90 calories in carbs which equates to 108 extra calories you need to add your daily calorie intake.

Carbs are 4 calories. Not 9.

Also, what's your point?

So i don't know how to your respond enigmatic question but i will
try to the best of my ability.

In previous posts it has come to a general consensus that somotypes are a myth. So if thats the case wouldn't this topic shift over to nutrition which is what my post covers in regards to the OP over his concern of higher carb intake turning into fat. Minus i just corrected my typo with carbs being 4 calories not 9 which only changes the math calculation but not the idea I'm trying to get across. Which is if your spilling over on carbs or fat above your maintenance just make sure to compensate those extra calories into your daily caloric intake.

No need to be rash this is suppose to be a forum to encourage and help others to best of one's knowledge you can take the advice or not. We're all grinding here it's all good. =P

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stealthq

SteveJWatson wrote: »

__drmerc__ wrote: »

abadvat wrote: »

Everybody reacts differently to fat and carbs - try what works best for you, align it with your preference (ei keep all the fat you want but give me carbs - and loads of them. I keep my fats to a basic requirement and fill in with carbs) and move on. It is a trial and error for sometime but eventually you will find your balance!

actually we all react the same way biologically

We do, but within certain parentheses.

I studied feed science (I am now a farmer) for a long while, and even within species/strains, animals will have varying FCRs (a FCR is an animals ability to convert its food into somatic growth - Feed Conversion Ratio). I see no reason why this should be any different in Homo Sapiens. This is why it is imperative that you find a calorific intake/macro split that works for you, use internet tools as an estimate and then tweak according to changes you can measure in your body.

Remember - nobody is a bomb calorimeter.

Been a couple decades since I took my few required ag classes (life sciences fell under the College of Agriculture), but as I recall, FCR does not account for an individual animal's activity.

It measures feed input and body mass output, with living conditions being held equal, yes? Individuals have different activities even in the same living conditions. One steer will pace the fence all day, another will stand most of the time, another might lie down most of the time. Perhaps that is enough to account for the range of FCRs.

CoolBeans520

MrM27 wrote: »

CoolBeans520 wrote: »

PwrLftr82 wrote: »

CoolBeans520 wrote: »

Broscience. Calories in calories out. Each carb and fat is equal to 9 calories. For example if your target fat 98 grams and carbs 350 but you get 100 grams of fat and 360 carbs thats adding 18 extra calories in fat and 90 calories in carbs which equates to 108 extra calories you need to add your daily calorie intake.

Actually, protein and carbs are 4 cals/gram and fat is 9 cals/gram

Yeah your right it is 4 calories, I was too late to edit it =P
I'm on a very low carb diet and can't think straight =(

MrM27 wrote: »

CoolBeans520 wrote: »

Broscience. Calories in calories out. Each carb and fat is equal to 9 calories. For example if your target fat 98 grams and carbs 350 but you get 100 grams of fat and 360 carbs thats adding 18 extra calories in fat and 90 calories in carbs which equates to 108 extra calories you need to add your daily calorie intake.

Carbs are 4 calories. Not 9.

Also, what's your point?

In previous posts it has come to a general consensus that somotypes are a myth. So if thats the case wouldn't this topic shift over to nutrition which is what my post covers in regards to the OP's concern over his concern of higher carb intake turning into fat. Minus i just corrected my typo with carbs being 4 calories not 9 which only changes the math calculation but not the idea I'm trying to get across. Which is if your spilling over on carbs or fat above your maintenance just make sure to compensate those extra calories into your daily caloric intake.

So i don't know how to your respond enigmatic question.

This is suppose to be a forum to encourage and help others to best
of one's knowledge you can take the advice or not it's all good =P

You realize this is the weight gain forum right?

Don't tell me what this forum is for. "Encourage others". We know pretty well what this forum is for. A lot of the time it's to correct misinformation. Get used to it or get it right.

I know its a weight gain forum but why don't you read the original post buddy it has nothing to do with weight gain so what are you getting at? Only addressing original post that happens to be in the weight gain forum. Obviously this thread as wondered a little off subject don't we agree. So lets not throw a temper tantrum here.

MrM27 wrote: »

ninerbuff wrote: »

MrM27 wrote: »

PrizePopple wrote: »

So if it's "broscience" .. does that mean it doesn't apply to chicks?

I'm joking. Please don't hurt me. Here's a peace offering...

You piece offering is rejected because..........no Half Baked.

Bro..........it's Ben and Jerry's. That's like rejecting free money.

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You know what, you're right. I'm here being all smug and I'm being offered free ice cream.

Prize, please forgive me. Please send ice cream. Thanx!!

LolBroScience

I know its a weight gain forum but why don't you read the original post buddy it has nothing to do with weight gain so what are you getting at? Obviously this thread as wondered a little of subject don't we agree. So lets not throw a temper tantrum here.

Except you know... bulking macros

CoolBeans520

LolBroScience wrote: »

I know its a weight gain forum but why don't you read the original post buddy it has nothing to do with weight gain so what are you getting at? Obviously this thread as wondered a little of subject don't we agree. So lets not throw a temper tantrum here.

Except you know... bulking macros

LolBroScience

CoolBeans520 wrote: »

LolBroScience wrote: »

I know its a weight gain forum but why don't you read the original post buddy it has nothing to do with weight gain so what are you getting at? Obviously this thread as wondered a little of subject don't we agree. So lets not throw a temper tantrum here.

Except you know... bulking macros

?

The post was in regards to macros on a bulk. It has to do with weight gain.

CoolBeans520

My post does help with caloric surplus which is last time i checked a big part of bulking but your right

By the way whats your bf% if i may ask?
Looking good at 191!

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LolBroScience

CoolBeans520 wrote: »

My post does help with caloric surplus which is last time i checked a big part of bulking but your right
By the way whats your bf% if i may ask?
Looking good at 191!

I don't know tbh. Not to concerned with the specific %. Probably somewhere in the upper teens 16-17%? Anyway, I'm looking to top out at 195 by mid January and cut down.

CoolBeans520

LolBroScience wrote: »

CoolBeans520 wrote: »

My post does help with caloric surplus which is last time i checked a big part of bulking but your right
By the way whats your bf% if i may ask?
Looking good at 191!

I don't know tbh. Not to concerned with the specific %. Probably somewhere in the upper teens 16-17%? Anyway, I'm looking to top out at 195 by mid January and cut down.

Yeah i just recently bulked from 180 in my profile picture to about 230 lbs in about a year lost my abs and got a crap load of stretch marks =(, but its impressive your still looking good after a 23 pound bulk.

ndj1979

CoolBeans520 wrote: »

LolBroScience wrote: »

CoolBeans520 wrote: »

My post does help with caloric surplus which is last time i checked a big part of bulking but your right
By the way whats your bf% if i may ask?
Looking good at 191!

I don't know tbh. Not to concerned with the specific %. Probably somewhere in the upper teens 16-17%? Anyway, I'm looking to top out at 195 by mid January and cut down.

Yeah i just recently bulked from 180 in my profile picture to about 230 lbs in about a year lost my abs and got a crap load of stretch marks =(, but its impressive your still looking good after a 23 pound bulk.

ummm I think you did it wrong....

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ndj1979

MrM27 wrote: »

ndj1979 wrote: »

CoolBeans520 wrote: »

LolBroScience wrote: »

CoolBeans520 wrote: »

My post does help with caloric surplus which is last time i checked a big part of bulking but your right
By the way whats your bf% if i may ask?
Looking good at 191!

I don't know tbh. Not to concerned with the specific %. Probably somewhere in the upper teens 16-17%? Anyway, I'm looking to top out at 195 by mid January and cut down.

Yeah i just recently bulked from 180 in my profile picture to about 230 lbs in about a year lost my abs and got a crap load of stretch marks =(, but its impressive your still looking good after a 23 pound bulk.

ummm I think you did it wrong....

whoa right. 180 to 230? Bulked to obese. Das not it mane.

wait, is this the guy that posted his before and after's and it looked like he had two "before pictures"...????????????????????????

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