The every other day diet
amusedmonkey
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For those interested, the official book is currently on a huge discount on amazon for the kindle version. $2.99!
http://www.amazon.com/Every-Other-Day-Diet-That-Lets-Weight-ebook/dp/B00CO79BW0/ref=tmm_kin_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&sr=8-1&qid=1417457934
http://www.amazon.com/Every-Other-Day-Diet-That-Lets-Weight-ebook/dp/B00CO79BW0/ref=tmm_kin_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&sr=8-1&qid=1417457934
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Ugh. 500 calories every other day? I would NEVER learn to love salads that way.0
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That sounds awful.0
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It's not for me, but oddly enough it doesn't sound as awful as it once did. I can see why some like it.
I enjoy logging for now, just like I enjoy doing calculations relating to my loss rate and TDEE and all that stuff and monitoring my sleep, but I can see why some would want a method that tends to create a deficit without all that.
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I'm trying it today. I have also done the 5:2 and lost weight very easily. The first round I did was easy as pie. The second round I could not shake desperate hunger so I gave up. Supposedly the every other day is easier because your body gets used to the calorie change up every other day because it operates on a 48 hour cycle but with 5:2 your body can't adapt - we'll see. Interesting the 5:2 claimed diet claimed that people didn't lose any more weight when they had a 3rd fast day yet the weight loss is slower on 5:2 than what I have seen on every other day. On the feast day they do say you can eat how much you want but I haven't experienced that. You have to eat 'normally' on that day meaning the calorie level that is a normal level for your current weight. If you eat all the calories you cut out the day before you won't lose weight.0
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I've been doing alternate day fasting for 2mths. It's the only weight loss method that has worked for me. Calorie restriction every single day is too hard
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christinev297 wrote: »I've been doing alternate day fasting for 2mths. It's the only weight loss method that has worked for me. Calorie restriction every single day is too hard
Interesting - so maintenance calories one day and minimal calories the other? You just have to have willpower on the light days or does your body (/mind) get used to it?0 -
Hamoncan the longer I've been doing it, the easier it has become. It's gotten to the stage that I look forward to fast days.
I have up to 500 calories on down days and 1550 on up days. I've only got 5kgs (11lbs ) left to lose, so have to be super strict. Once I get down to my goal weight I'll do 6:1 to maintain, meaning just one fast day a week.0 -
But will it sell books or get someone to the pay pal check out, that is the question.0
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I can't argue with the wonderful results I've had.0
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I would just find it too annoying. Once you have your routine set up and are prepared to exercise for the extras, then I have to think less. Whatever suits you, assuming you take the correct measures to make sure you get enough nutrition.0
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Tigger I hope I'm getting enough nutrition. Right now I'm more focused on a calorie deficit than anything else. Unfortunately I'm not very well versed re: macros etc. My diary is public...0
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Thanks for that! I've been doing 4:3 for a little over a year now ("fasting" on M/W/F), so not quite EOD, but closer to that than 5:2. First time I've found a setup that really seems to work for me. Haven't gotten around to reading much on it, beyond the basic info to be found on the net, so this is definitely of interest to me. Cheers!0
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On days when I'm not all that hungry, I could totally squeak by on 500 calories. But if it was a hungry day...I don't know.
This diet fascinates me and I love hearing how people feel on it, how much they eat on the Eat Big days and how it works for them, weight-losing.
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I'm on all the Facebook fasting groups. And the amount of posts I've read from people reversing their diabetes to their terrible bloods coming back perfect etc etc is astounding. I think the health benefits to fasting equal the weight loss benefits.0
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christinev297 wrote: »I'm on all the Facebook fasting groups. And the amount of posts I've read from people reversing their diabetes to their terrible bloods coming back perfect etc etc is astounding. I think the health benefits to fasting equal the weight loss benefits.
You will also find that all of the homeopathy groups are curing their ailments and all the chiropractic groups are curing theirs. This is a selection bias, not evidence of efficacy.
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While I'm not entirely sure where I stand on this yet, I'm trying it. Here's why, in case anyone cares:
Binging, I believe, is a result of restriction. As soon as I tell myself I am BAD for eating that cookie and I'm NEVER having a cookie again, or maybe I can have one when I get to a goal that I never hit, you're damn right I'm going to eventually 'mess up' and then 'have a cookie' cause I'm such a screw up and today is ruined and I'm going to start again tomorrow, for real this time. So, for me, if I can tell myself to 'wait until tomorrow' - I can manage that! And on my regular days, since I'm allowed to eat "basically" what I like, nothing is not "allowed" - I don't set up the binge cycle then either.
So, I've done one fast day so who really knows. I'm about to do a second one tomorrow. It really is about what works for you.
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bananabeannn wrote: »While I'm not entirely sure where I stand on this yet, I'm trying it. Here's why, in case anyone cares:
Binging, I believe, is a result of restriction. As soon as I tell myself I am BAD for eating that cookie and I'm NEVER having a cookie again, or maybe I can have one when I get to a goal that I never hit, you're damn right I'm going to eventually 'mess up' and then 'have a cookie' cause I'm such a screw up and today is ruined and I'm going to start again tomorrow, for real this time. So, for me, if I can tell myself to 'wait until tomorrow' - I can manage that! And on my regular days, since I'm allowed to eat "basically" what I like, nothing is not "allowed" - I don't set up the binge cycle then either.
So, I've done one fast day so who really knows. I'm about to do a second one tomorrow. It really is about what works for you.
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I have achieved the mental aspects of what you are talking about just by pre-planning my meals. Sorry, can't have that cookie, it isn't on today's plan. If it is a cookie in the house, put it on tomorrow's plan. If it was a cookie at a party, bye-bye cookie.
Also, when I do go off the plan, I don't wait until tomorrow to get back on it. Once the cookie is gone, I get right back on the plan.
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christinev297 wrote: »I'm on all the Facebook fasting groups. And the amount of posts I've read from people reversing their diabetes to their terrible bloods coming back perfect etc etc is astounding. I think the health benefits to fasting equal the weight loss benefits.
That is an interesting diet. Fasting is almost a universal practice world wide so it must have some 'real' value. I will try to read how it has help cure diabetes.
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I don't know if it CURES diabetes, but they are in remission, if that's the correct term?? Eg they are able to completely get off their diabetes medication0
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concordancia wrote: »bananabeannn wrote: »While I'm not entirely sure where I stand on this yet, I'm trying it. Here's why, in case anyone cares:
Binging, I believe, is a result of restriction. As soon as I tell myself I am BAD for eating that cookie and I'm NEVER having a cookie again, or maybe I can have one when I get to a goal that I never hit, you're damn right I'm going to eventually 'mess up' and then 'have a cookie' cause I'm such a screw up and today is ruined and I'm going to start again tomorrow, for real this time. So, for me, if I can tell myself to 'wait until tomorrow' - I can manage that! And on my regular days, since I'm allowed to eat "basically" what I like, nothing is not "allowed" - I don't set up the binge cycle then either.
So, I've done one fast day so who really knows. I'm about to do a second one tomorrow. It really is about what works for you.
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I have achieved the mental aspects of what you are talking about just by pre-planning my meals. Sorry, can't have that cookie, it isn't on today's plan. If it is a cookie in the house, put it on tomorrow's plan. If it was a cookie at a party, bye-bye cookie.
Also, when I do go off the plan, I don't wait until tomorrow to get back on it. Once the cookie is gone, I get right back on the plan.
Exactly. I've been doing it this way since August with very few hiccups--I've tried starving myself, fasting, etc and all that leads to is guilt and shame-eating for me. I'm thinking about calories like money now--except I don't pay off my debt. I move on.
If this works for anyone out there, fantastic. A daily "budget" works best for me, as this is the longest I've ever dieted.
And Gale--I knew a girl in college who put her diabetes into remission with a VLC shake diet her doctor put her on. I would talk to your doctor about that before you embark on something like this on your own with only internet research.
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christinev297 wrote: »I don't know if it CURES diabetes, but they are in remission, if that's the correct term?? Eg they are able to completely get off their diabetes medication
Weight loss does that, fasting doesn't.
What you're talking about is called, "confirmation bias." Of course members of a group are going to have success and post about it, because the ones that fail leave the group and stay silent. Just look at all the groups here, and how people get recruited to them.
"I'm curious about 'xyz' method of eating."
"OH! 'XYZ' is amazing! Here, come join this 'xyz' group I'm in! They'll all tell you how wonderful it is! Then you won't have to deal with anyone on the main forum who might tell you it's not wonderful."
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christinev297 wrote: »Hamoncan the longer I've been doing it, the easier it has become. It's gotten to the stage that I look forward to fast days.
I have up to 500 calories on down days and 1550 on up days. I've only got 5kgs (11lbs ) left to lose, so have to be super strict. Once I get down to my goal weight I'll do 6:1 to maintain, meaning just one fast day a week.
isn't that dieting every day - no way is 1550 your TDEE
so that works out at a 1050 calorie a day diet - so lower than the basic recommendation of at least 1200 a day for women
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Rabbitjb I'm down to my last 5kgs (11lbs) so I have to be super strict. I dropped from 1750-1800 down to 1550 calories last week.0
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NO I am not much interested in this book.-1
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Universal practice?GaleHawkins wrote: »christinev297 wrote: »I'm on all the Facebook fasting groups. And the amount of posts I've read from people reversing their diabetes to their terrible bloods coming back perfect etc etc is astounding. I think the health benefits to fasting equal the weight loss benefits.
That is an interesting diet. Fasting is almost a universal practice world wide so it must have some 'real' value. I will try to read how it has help cure diabetes.
How it cures diabetes? Really? Cures diabetes? My god you're clueless.
Wow, Rude.
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christinev297 wrote: »Rabbitjb I'm down to my last 5kgs (11lbs) so I have to be super strict. I dropped from 1750-1800 down to 1550 calories last week.
the less you have to lose the lower your calorie defecit should be not the higher to help protect your lean muscle mass and get you ready for a system of maintenance.
In my understanding rather than dropping your calories, you should have been slowing down your rate of loss to about 0.5lb loss a week. That basically means by cutting 250 approximately from your TDEE - if you want to do so by an every other day method that really makes very little difference
so for example if your TDEE is say 2000 - you should be eating 1750 a day (12,250 a week) - if 3 days a week you eat 500 calories (1500 calories) - the other 4 days you should be eating around 2,680 calories
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Universal practice?GaleHawkins wrote: »christinev297 wrote: »I'm on all the Facebook fasting groups. And the amount of posts I've read from people reversing their diabetes to their terrible bloods coming back perfect etc etc is astounding. I think the health benefits to fasting equal the weight loss benefits.
That is an interesting diet. Fasting is almost a universal practice world wide so it must have some 'real' value. I will try to read how it has help cure diabetes.
How it cures diabetes? Really? Cures diabetes? My god you're clueless.
She didn't say "cured" though, did she? Any form of weight loss will alleviate symptons of type 2 diabetes, so perhaps not this particular diet, but any successful diet will reverse symptons. Perhaps you should pause slightly before slinging the insults around?0 -
Weight loss in general mediates diabetes regression. The twinkie diet will reverse diabetes when consumed in a deficit. I could sprinkle a tsp of sugar on everything I eat and reverse diabetes if I eat in a deficit......Cleanses are a a sales pitch and not a medical term.PaulJRaymond wrote: »
Universal practice?GaleHawkins wrote: »christinev297 wrote: »I'm on all the Facebook fasting groups. And the amount of posts I've read from people reversing their diabetes to their terrible bloods coming back perfect etc etc is astounding. I think the health benefits to fasting equal the weight loss benefits.
That is an interesting diet. Fasting is almost a universal practice world wide so it must have some 'real' value. I will try to read how it has help cure diabetes.
How it cures diabetes? Really? Cures diabetes? My god you're clueless.
She didn't say "cured" though, did she? Any form of weight loss will alleviate symptons of type 2 diabetes, so perhaps not this particular diet, but any successful diet will reverse symptons. Perhaps you should pause slightly before slinging the insults around?
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