Diet help please ( can i eat rice and brown rice while trying to loose weight)

mehv2
mehv2 Posts: 44 Member
edited November 8 in Introduce Yourself
I am an 19 year old girl who has celiac disease so i can no eat any kind of glutens (wheats) and on top i am from and south asian background so i eat alot of white rice and spicy indian/pakistani food. I have changed my habit to eating more brown rice rather than white rice. But i need rice i can't get rid of it. I can't eat just vegtables or just meat i need rice to eat it with. I want to loose 40 pounds within 2-4 months and i weigh 160 right now. Would it be possible to achieve this with about 20-40 minutes of exercise a day, white rice twice a week and brown rice 5 times a week( excluding breakfast). My workout will be high intensity interval training on the treadmill and i will keep my calories 1400-1200 . so is it possible with the rice consumption?
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  • Rice has calories just like anything else work their calories into your daily plan and makesure you are eating lots of variety and you should be fine.
  • randomtai
    randomtai Posts: 9,003 Member
    :huh:
  • LoneWolfRunner
    LoneWolfRunner Posts: 1,160 Member
    No. You cannot.
  • JazzFischer1989
    JazzFischer1989 Posts: 531 Member
    White and brown rice have about the same amount of calories just so you know. But to answer your question, yes, you can eat rice. All you need to do is fit it into your daily calorie goal, no biggie. I'm like you, most of my meals include some sort of rice. It's never had an effect on my weight.
  • mehv2
    mehv2 Posts: 44 Member
    White and brown rice have about the same amount of calories just so you know. But to answer your question, yes, you can eat rice. All you need to do is fit it into your daily calorie goal, no biggie. I'm like you, most of my meals include some sort of rice. It's never had an effect on my weight.



    ya i am going to try to lessen the amount over time but i need it lol
  • mehv2
    mehv2 Posts: 44 Member
    White and brown rice have about the same amount of calories just so you know. But to answer your question, yes, you can eat rice. All you need to do is fit it into your daily calorie goal, no biggie. I'm like you, most of my meals include some sort of rice. It's never had an effect on my weight.



    but people say white rice has more starch so it is more fattening that is why.
  • randomtai
    randomtai Posts: 9,003 Member
    mehv2 wrote: »
    White and brown rice have about the same amount of calories just so you know. But to answer your question, yes, you can eat rice. All you need to do is fit it into your daily calorie goal, no biggie. I'm like you, most of my meals include some sort of rice. It's never had an effect on my weight.



    but people say white rice has more starch so it is more fattening that is why.

    What people? :huh:
  • mehv2
    mehv2 Posts: 44 Member
    randomtai wrote: »
    mehv2 wrote: »
    White and brown rice have about the same amount of calories just so you know. But to answer your question, yes, you can eat rice. All you need to do is fit it into your daily calorie goal, no biggie. I'm like you, most of my meals include some sort of rice. It's never had an effect on my weight.



    but people say white rice has more starch so it is more fattening that is why.

    What people? :huh:

    my doctor said it is better if i eat brown rice rather than white rice
  • randomtai
    randomtai Posts: 9,003 Member
    mehv2 wrote: »
    randomtai wrote: »
    mehv2 wrote: »
    White and brown rice have about the same amount of calories just so you know. But to answer your question, yes, you can eat rice. All you need to do is fit it into your daily calorie goal, no biggie. I'm like you, most of my meals include some sort of rice. It's never had an effect on my weight.



    but people say white rice has more starch so it is more fattening that is why.

    What people? :huh:

    my doctor said it is better if i eat brown rice rather than white rice

    Doctors aren't really knowledgeable about nutrition.
  • scuba6randy
    scuba6randy Posts: 34 Member
    you can. But, remember that white rice is a high glycemic food, meaning it spikes your blood sugar and causes your body to release more insulin. When insulin levels are high your body is not as efficient at burning fat. always eat a little protein with it to balance this out. also, 40 lbs is a high weight loss for 4 months, at that rate of weight loss (1200 cal is low) your body starts metabolizing its own tissue... you'll lose muscle as well as fat. It takes a lot of energy to maintain muscle, so if you're not weight training and eating enough protein you will lose muscle (your power house of fat burning) because the body adapts fairly quickly to what is most efficient to maintain itself. I would recommend enough net calories for 1- 1.5 lbs of loss per week. So....find out how many calories it takes to maintain your current weight (example: around 2000) run for 25 minutes (apx 250 calories) a day and reduce overall calorie intake by 300-350 calories per day. You'll then be in a calorie deficit of about 3500 per week, meaning you'll lose about a pound of fat per week. But do some weight training (more than a 1 lb dumbbell) to maintain muscle, or you will lose that too, you'll be happy with the scales initially, but not for long and not like what happens in the mirror. You'll just be skinny with no shape.
  • mehv2
    mehv2 Posts: 44 Member
    you can. But, remember that white rice is a high glycemic food, meaning it spikes your blood sugar and causes your body to release more insulin. When insulin levels are high your body is not as efficient at burning fat. always eat a little protein with it to balance this out. also, 40 lbs is a high weight loss for 4 months, at that rate of weight loss (1200 cal is low) your body starts metabolizing its own tissue... you'll lose muscle as well as fat. It takes a lot of energy to maintain muscle, so if you're not weight training and eating enough protein you will lose muscle (your power house of fat burning) because the body adapts fairly quickly to what is most efficient to maintain itself. I would recommend enough net calories for 1- 1.5 lbs of loss per week. So....find out how many calories it takes to maintain your current weight (example: around 2000) run for 25 minutes (apx 250 calories) a day and reduce overall calorie intake by 300-350 calories per day. You'll then be in a calorie deficit of about 3500 per week, meaning you'll lose about a pound of fat per week. But do some weight training (more than a 1 lb dumbbell) to maintain muscle, or you will lose that too, you'll be happy with the scales initially, but not for long and not like what happens in the mirror. You'll just be skinny with no shape.




    This is very helpful thank you and omg yes my doctor said I should quit white rice cuz my blood sugar level was a bit high. Will switching to brown rice fix that? Or should I just quite rice for good?
  • AmandaHugginkiss
    AmandaHugginkiss Posts: 486 Member
    mehv2 wrote: »
    you can. But, remember that white rice is a high glycemic food, meaning it spikes your blood sugar and causes your body to release more insulin. When insulin levels are high your body is not as efficient at burning fat. always eat a little protein with it to balance this out. also, 40 lbs is a high weight loss for 4 months, at that rate of weight loss (1200 cal is low) your body starts metabolizing its own tissue... you'll lose muscle as well as fat. It takes a lot of energy to maintain muscle, so if you're not weight training and eating enough protein you will lose muscle (your power house of fat burning) because the body adapts fairly quickly to what is most efficient to maintain itself. I would recommend enough net calories for 1- 1.5 lbs of loss per week. So....find out how many calories it takes to maintain your current weight (example: around 2000) run for 25 minutes (apx 250 calories) a day and reduce overall calorie intake by 300-350 calories per day. You'll then be in a calorie deficit of about 3500 per week, meaning you'll lose about a pound of fat per week. But do some weight training (more than a 1 lb dumbbell) to maintain muscle, or you will lose that too, you'll be happy with the scales initially, but not for long and not like what happens in the mirror. You'll just be skinny with no shape.




    This is very helpful thank you and omg yes my doctor said I should quit white rice cuz my blood sugar level was a bit high. Will switching to brown rice fix that? Or should I just quite rice for good?

    Eating less of it will lower your blood sugar level, as will adding in a strength training program. It will help you regulate insulin as well.

    Get a food scale, learn what a proper portion of rice looks like, and stick to it.
  • ukaryote
    ukaryote Posts: 860 Member
    Holy heck, sure you can eat rice. it is a source of carbohydrates and you need them. There are other starchy sources of carbs without gluten.
  • JazzFischer1989
    JazzFischer1989 Posts: 531 Member
    edited December 2014
    randomtai wrote: »
    mehv2 wrote: »
    randomtai wrote: »
    mehv2 wrote: »
    White and brown rice have about the same amount of calories just so you know. But to answer your question, yes, you can eat rice. All you need to do is fit it into your daily calorie goal, no biggie. I'm like you, most of my meals include some sort of rice. It's never had an effect on my weight.



    but people say white rice has more starch so it is more fattening that is why.

    What people? :huh:

    my doctor said it is better if i eat brown rice rather than white rice

    Doctors aren't really knowledgeable about nutrition.

    This. Both of my parents are physician assistants and they're not much more knowledgeable about nutrition than your average joe. That's not their area of expertise.

    One is not more fattening than the other, trust me. What's "fattening" is how much you're eating overall. I grew up eating massive amounts of rice, yet I've managed to be underweight for the majority of my life because I wasn't getting enough calories/burning a lot of it off from being an active person. I'm gaining weight now because I chose to increase my caloric intake.
  • rosebette
    rosebette Posts: 1,660 Member
    My husband's diabetic, and white rice causes his sugar to spike. We've switched to brown rice -- because it's less processed and higher in fiber, it has less of an impact on blood sugar. However, the recommendation from his doctor was to reduce the amount of carbs he eats, which includes even brown rice. He usually limits himself to no more than a cup (cooked, not raw) a day. If you're at 1200 calories, I'd measure only 1/2 cup serving. My own calorie goal is around 1200 plus exercise calories, and I usually limit myself to no more than 1/2 cup of rice for my evening meal. With that low a calorie limit, rice is really taking up calories needed for more nutritious foods, such as proteins, vegetables, and fruit. At 1200 calories, you must make sure that your calories are as nutrient dense as possible. Rice just doesn't have that many nutrients, so eat it in moderation.
  • amcook4
    amcook4 Posts: 561 Member
    I've lost 59 pounds so far, and I've eaten rice on average a couple of times a week. Just measure it out and log it accurately, you will be fine.
  • fattymcrunnerpants
    fattymcrunnerpants Posts: 311 Member
    You could eat chocolate ice cream for every meal and still lose weight :\
  • scuba6randy
    scuba6randy Posts: 34 Member
    Depends on what else you're eating, rice cakes, bagels, baked pretzels, baked russet potatoes, watermelon, even bananas rate fairly high on the glycemic index and should be paired with some protein to limit the insulin rush. but switching from white to brown rice will definitely help. Quinoa is a great alternative to try also, it has a different flavor and contains protein, but check with your doctor if you have celiac disease, there are mixed reviews as to the safety of it for those people.
  • mehv2
    mehv2 Posts: 44 Member
    You could eat chocolate ice cream for every meal and still lose weight :\


    lol how?
  • tedsmama
    tedsmama Posts: 178 Member
    Just count your calories. You do not have to give up white rice at all. I grew up in a community with a very dominant Asian culture and I have heard many of my friends speak the same way about being accustomed to eating rice with every meal. As long as you are accurately accounting for what you are consuming you will be fine.
  • cindytw
    cindytw Posts: 1,027 Member
    The other piece to this puzzle is that as a person with Celiac your digestive health is likely comprimised. Therefore you will not digest things as well, especially grains and dairy. It can improve in time, but off the bat it is not working right and then neither will anything else. Eating easily diegested food, probiotics, and not using dense hard to digest whole grains right away will help. I recomment looking into "SCD Diet Lifetsyle" to use initially to get back on track and then start adding things back. Brown rice hurts my stomach way more than white rice, but all of it bloats me. I would say do white rice with sufficient healthy fats like coconut oil, olive oil, etc. and protein to help slow the blood sugar spike. Maybe in less quantity as well. I did find once I was GF for a while, my blood sugar issues normalized as gluten spikes it more and drops it further later than other carbs. Feel free to message me directly with questions.
  • fattymcrunnerpants
    fattymcrunnerpants Posts: 311 Member
    mehv2 wrote: »
    You could eat chocolate ice cream for every meal and still lose weight :\


    lol how?

    Calories in, calories out. I'm not suggesting it but the type of food you eat doesn't make much of a difference as far as pure weight loss is concerned. Now how you FEEL after you eat nothing but ice cream for a week is a different matter.
  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
    edited December 2014
    Why do people make it so complicated all the time?

    Weigh your food on a digital scale, log it, stay at your calorie defecit and you'll lose weight

    You don't need to worry about glycemic indexes or brown over white just focus on the number of calories you're eating against the number you're burning - you can eat rice every meal if you want to and can afford it...I had risotto for lunch and veg curry with rice for dinner yesterday

    Your 40lb loss in 2-3 months is overly ambitious though...just start losing and learn as you go ...but avoid dietary rules over and above CICO, you have enough to adjust to with the coeliac avoidance lists

    Read the pinned threads at the top of getting started for guidance
  • fattymcrunnerpants
    fattymcrunnerpants Posts: 311 Member
    Ewa_dario wrote: »
    It's not as simple as calorie counting for diabetics - you might find this post helpful, it's about about finding balance as a diabetic, during the festive season http://mydario.com/blog/2014/12/01/tis-season-jolly-tips-surviving-holidays/ - hang in there!

    she didn't say she was diabetic. She said she had Celiac which is an autoimmune response to the protein gluten.
  • mehv2
    mehv2 Posts: 44 Member
    Ewa_dario wrote: »
    It's not as simple as calorie counting for diabetics - you might find this post helpful, it's about about finding balance as a diabetic, during the festive season http://mydario.com/blog/2014/12/01/tis-season-jolly-tips-surviving-holidays/ - hang in there!

    she didn't say she was diabetic. She said she had Celiac which is an autoimmune response to the protein gluten.

    ya and sugar level is a bit high not diabetic
  • RodaRose
    RodaRose Posts: 9,562 Member
    edited December 2014
    mehv2 wrote: »
    Ewa_dario wrote: »
    It's not as simple as calorie counting for diabetics - you might find this post helpful, it's about about finding balance as a diabetic, during the festive season http://mydario.com/blog/2014/12/01/tis-season-jolly-tips-surviving-holidays/ - hang in there!

    she didn't say she was diabetic. She said she had Celiac which is an autoimmune response to the protein gluten.

    ya and sugar level is a bit high not diabetic

    Seriously:
    1 There is almost no difference between white and brown rice. They both increase insulin.
    2 It does not matter when you eat the rice or what you eat with it. The body still has to process the carb /blood sugar load. Try to eat less of it than you are currently eating.

    If you want to continue to eat rice you can fit in into your plan by decreasing or cutting out other carbs and sugars like fruit, potatoes, sweet desserts.
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    Your overall blood sugar will go down when you lose weight.
  • my understanding if you want to loose weight fast, meaning a couple of pounds per week you need to limit your carbs and eat more protein. Protein will eat your fat in your body. Eat about 5 small meals a day. Your goal should be set at 50 Carbs, 100 or more Protein and only 40 grams of Fats. !000-1200 cals and If you combine this with with a day work out even better.

    Carbs, even starchy foods like carrots. potatoes, banana's all will spike your blood sugar just like candy. You will feel the high with a fast drop in your blood sugar which mean you will be tired and will process your food to fast. That's not what you want you need. For this reason you need to eat more protein to fuel your body evenly through the day. Once your body feels hungry you start burning off your muscle. Brown, white rice, pasta and even bread is all carbs and does nothing for your body but adds on more fat and feds off your muscles.

    Oh, and if you eat any carb combine it with protein. It will keep you full and help your body eat off it's fats.
  • zSandman
    zSandman Posts: 76 Member
    Rice is a staple in my diet and I continue to lose weight. I cannot understand how anyone can train with very low to no carbs.

    Just make sure you are in a caloric deficit and that your proteins and fats are hit. Once you have hit both your daily requirements for protein and fat, you can eat the rest in carbs or limit them to the percentage specified. Where the misconception comes is that when you are on a deficit, you will eat less carbs because you want to keep protein the same to maintain your lean body mass, fats the same for hormone production, however, carbs can be sacrificed.

    I have lost 50 lbs eating probably a total 3 cups of white rice a day.
  • Sabine_Stroehm
    Sabine_Stroehm Posts: 19,263 Member
    ukaryote wrote: »
    Holy heck, sure you can eat rice. it is a source of carbohydrates and you need them. There are other starchy sources of carbs without gluten.

    The vegetables she's eating are also carbohydrates.

    That said: OP, keep the rice, just cut back.
  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
    sharolyn15 wrote: »
    my understanding if you want to loose weight fast, meaning a couple of pounds per week you need to limit your carbs and eat more protein. Protein will eat your fat in your body. Eat about 5 small meals a day. Your goal should be set at 50 Carbs, 100 or more Protein and only 40 grams of Fats. !000-1200 cals and If you combine this with with a day work out even better.

    Carbs, even starchy foods like carrots. potatoes, banana's all will spike your blood sugar just like candy. You will feel the high with a fast drop in your blood sugar which mean you will be tired and will process your food to fast. That's not what you want you need. For this reason you need to eat more protein to fuel your body evenly through the day. Once your body feels hungry you start burning off your muscle. Brown, white rice, pasta and even bread is all carbs and does nothing for your body but adds on more fat and feds off your muscles.

    Oh, and if you eat any carb combine it with protein. It will keep you full and help your body eat off it's fats.

    Nope - gosh, so much bro-science

    If you want to lose weight you eat fewer calories than you use

    Protein does not eat fat :shock: ...it gets you full quicker though

    It doesn't matter how often or when you eat

    Macro goals should be set for the individual, no issue with starting with the MFP preset percentages! and sticking with them if you get on with them

    Carbs are a great fuel...particularly pre-workouts

    Hunger is not a sign you're burning off muscle

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