question about cheat meals
animall
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I'm currently on a 1200 cal diet and usually i have a cheat meal one a week or 2 and it's working wonderfully. ( i lost 4kg)
So today i was bored and decided to bake a lemon cake for my family but ended up eating 2 slices of the cake! I know i shouldn't do that but what is done is done.
Here is my question : I am still felling very full now so i decided to skip dinner. When i calculate today's calorie intake, it is still until my calorie goal! If that is the case, should i still consider the cake as a cheat meal? To tell you the truth i will be very sad if i can't enjoy my cheat meal this weekend haha.
Any suggestion or opinion will be appreciated. Thank you!
So today i was bored and decided to bake a lemon cake for my family but ended up eating 2 slices of the cake! I know i shouldn't do that but what is done is done.
Here is my question : I am still felling very full now so i decided to skip dinner. When i calculate today's calorie intake, it is still until my calorie goal! If that is the case, should i still consider the cake as a cheat meal? To tell you the truth i will be very sad if i can't enjoy my cheat meal this weekend haha.
Any suggestion or opinion will be appreciated. Thank you!
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What on earth?
OK you have a daily calorie goal - without exercise (eg you add in calories from exercise and eat those too)
You can look at that over the week if you want to.
But if you choose to eat your 1200 calories in doughnuts and lemon cake for the day and then stop you will still lose weight (You may not feel great longterm but you will lose weight)
I don't do cheat meals - I eat what I want within my weekly calorie limits ... it works0 -
What on earth?
OK you have a daily calorie goal - without exercise (eg you add in calories from exercise and eat those too)
You can look at that over the week if you want to.
But if you choose to eat your 1200 calories in doughnuts and lemon cake for the day and then stop you will still lose weight (You may not feel great longterm but you will lose weight)
I don't do cheat meals - I eat what I want within my weekly calorie limits ... it works
I know that it is a stupid question but i need some opinion. thank you0 -
No it is not a cheat. It just shows you ate really high carbs/sugar on this day. You have to eat 3500/cal to gain weight. It will hurt if you ate the whole thing. LOL
I have done this before and it all works out in the end. I have say what will power you have to skip dinner because you were "bad" (which you were not).
And if made the lemon I would have definitely had a piece or two.
If is not meant eat, why cook it?0 -
I will add this, if a person ate 1200 calories in cocoa puffs, peanut butter crackers, poptarts, ravioli and this added up to 1200 calories. It is still 1200 calories.
I think the thing is "where is the nutrition in this". There are those that do eat like this and perfectly fine! I ate like this when I was single and living alone. It was cheap and easy. I was not fat..
So a piece of lemon cake is not hurting your calorie goal or weight loss. I do a cheat meal where I eat fast food every Friday. Something I like, but it is still calorie efficient. FOr example if I go to Arby's I pick a meal within my calorie goal...0 -
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I don't usually respond to this sort of post. Hmm, so I gues i won't.0
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I will add this, if a person ate 1200 calories in cocoa puffs, peanut butter crackers, poptarts, ravioli and this added up to 1200 calories. It is still 1200 calories.
I think the thing is "where is the nutrition in this". There are those that do eat like this and perfectly fine! I ate like this when I was single and living alone. It was cheap and easy. I was not fat..
So a piece of lemon cake is not hurting your calorie goal or weight loss. I do a cheat meal where I eat fast food every Friday. Something I like, but it is still calorie efficient. FOr example if I go to Arby's I pick a meal within my calorie goal...
Thank you, but i don't understand something you said. If my cake doesn't considered as a cheat meal, why would your "within my calorie goal" food considered a cheat meal? Sorry because english is not my native language i always have a hard time understanding what people says.
Sure, i admit that I'm skipping meal partly because I'm feeling guilty, but the main reason that is because i really do feel very stuffed.No it is not a cheat. It just shows you ate really high carbs/sugar on this day. You have to eat 3500/cal to gain weight. It will hurt if you ate the whole thing. LOL
I have done this before and it all works out in the end. I have say what will power you have to skip dinner because you were "bad" (which you were not).
And if made the lemon I would have definitely had a piece or two.
If is not meant eat, why cook it?
No, you eat 3500 over maintenence to gain a pound, not general weight. You eat 1750 over maintenance and you gain half a pound and so on.
You don't have to skip dinner just because you had cake. That's not a safe game to play.
OP, nothing wrong with a little cake.
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I will add this, if a person ate 1200 calories in cocoa puffs, peanut butter crackers, poptarts, ravioli and this added up to 1200 calories. It is still 1200 calories.
I think the thing is "where is the nutrition in this". There are those that do eat like this and perfectly fine! I ate like this when I was single and living alone. It was cheap and easy. I was not fat..
So a piece of lemon cake is not hurting your calorie goal or weight loss. I do a cheat meal where I eat fast food every Friday. Something I like, but it is still calorie efficient. FOr example if I go to Arby's I pick a meal within my calorie goal...
Thank you, but i don't understand something you said. If my cake doesn't considered as a cheat meal, why would your "within my calorie goal" food considered a cheat meal? Sorry because english is not my native language i always have a hard time understanding what people says.
Sure, i admit that I'm skipping meal partly because I'm feeling guilty, but the main reason that is because i really do feel very stuffed.No it is not a cheat. It just shows you ate really high carbs/sugar on this day. You have to eat 3500/cal to gain weight. It will hurt if you ate the whole thing. LOL
I have done this before and it all works out in the end. I have say what will power you have to skip dinner because you were "bad" (which you were not).
And if made the lemon I would have definitely had a piece or two.
If is not meant eat, why cook it?
No, you eat 3500 over maintenence to gain a pound, not general weight. You eat 1750 over maintenance and you gain half a pound and so on.
You don't have to skip dinner just because you had cake. That's not a safe game to play.
OP, nothing wrong with a little cake.
any meal/ food within a calorie goal wouldn't be considered a 'cheat' in my opinion
and tbh if I was stuffed on cake then I'd not eat a meal either .. going with how full you feel is a good guideline, sometimes0 -
First of all, I don't call it cheat, because I'm not doing anything wrong. Secondly, you didn't go over in calories, so where is the problem? Lastly, even if you did go over, log it and move on. This is about a lifestyle change, not some strict regime. Are you going to eat 1200 calories for the rest of your life? Nope.0
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any meal/ food within a calorie goal wouldn't be considered a 'cheat' in my opinion
and tbh if I was stuffed on cake then I'd not eat a meal either .. going with how full you feel is a good guideline, sometimes [/quote]
That is what i thought too.
I think i definitely did something wrong because as the baker i know exactly how much butter went into the cake (225g!!!!) and that much butter just feels wrong for someone who's trying to lose some fat.Liftng4Lis wrote: »First of all, I don't call it cheat, because I'm not doing anything wrong. Secondly, you didn't go over in calories, so where is the problem? Lastly, even if you did go over, log it and move on. This is about a lifestyle change, not some strict regime. Are you going to eat 1200 calories for the rest of your life? Nope.
Anyway, i'm falling in love with this site already. The speed of you guys replying truly amazed me. Thank you all!
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Making a meal of cake isn't the healthiest thing to do, but for weight loss, there's no reason why you can't do that. (I've done it more than once.) Whether or not you call it a cheat meal, that is up to you. But if I were allowing myself a cheat meal every week, I wouldn't call this one a cheat meal because I could still have my cheat meal and meet my calorie goal for the week.0
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If you are under your calorie allotment, it's not a cheat.
On a side note, calling meals "cheat meals" is dumb IMO, if you go over your goal, just make up for it the next day or days if it can't be made up in a single day.0 -
cheat meal implies that you did something wrong, and there is never anything wrong with eating cake, especially if you stayed within your calorie goal..
there is nothing bad/cheating/whatever about eating cake, ice cream, cookies, pizza, etc…they are all just food that your body uses for energy. Stay within your calorie and macro targets and you will be fine…
why shouldn't you eat two slices of "the cake"?0 -
TimothyFish wrote: »Making a meal of cake isn't the healthiest thing to do, but for weight loss, there's no reason why you can't do that. (I've done it more than once.) Whether or not you call it a cheat meal, that is up to you. But if I were allowing myself a cheat meal every week, I wouldn't call this one a cheat meal because I could still have my cheat meal and meet my calorie goal for the week.Sevendust912 wrote: »If you are under your calorie allotment, it's not a cheat.
On a side note, calling meals "cheat meals" is dumb IMO, if you go over your goal, just make up for it the next day or days if it can't be made up in a single day.cheat meal implies that you did something wrong, and there is never anything wrong with eating cake, especially if you stayed within your calorie goal..
there is nothing bad/cheating/whatever about eating cake, ice cream, cookies, pizza, etc…they are all just food that your body uses for energy. Stay within your calorie and macro targets and you will be fine…
why shouldn't you eat two slices of "the cake"?
Guess i shouldn't call it a cheat meal then. But i can't help myself but feel bad because of the fat content of the food. But i understand that i have to move on and eat ''cleaner'' tomorrow. Thanks.0 -
How in the world do you consider it cheating if it fits your calories?0
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the thing with this place is it helps you to re-educate yourself and get rid of the concept of good and bad foods, gimmicks, needless rules and shoddy 'new and improved weight loss in no time for no effort' schemes
it's all about calories in vs calories out
if you can throw away every piece of knowledge you have about 'dieting' that isn't about calories you'll do well at the start
then once you have that down you can start learning about the macros and nutrition etc
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I will add this, if a person ate 1200 calories in cocoa puffs, peanut butter crackers, poptarts, ravioli and this added up to 1200 calories. It is still 1200 calories.
I think the thing is "where is the nutrition in this". There are those that do eat like this and perfectly fine! I ate like this when I was single and living alone. It was cheap and easy. I was not fat..
So a piece of lemon cake is not hurting your calorie goal or weight loss. I do a cheat meal where I eat fast food every Friday. Something I like, but it is still calorie efficient. FOr example if I go to Arby's I pick a meal within my calorie goal...
Thank you, but i don't understand something you said. If my cake doesn't considered as a cheat meal, why would your "within my calorie goal" food considered a cheat meal? Sorry because english is not my native language i always have a hard time understanding what people says.
Let me explain... My cheat meal may be considered a regular meal to others. It is fast food so I generally do not eat this type of food the other 6 days of the week. So mentally I am cheating by eating fried food (high carb, fat, sugar, sodium). Not much nutritional.
As far as what MrM27 said... I meant to say If you eat 1200 (if that is your daily intake of food) and you consume 3500 additional calories. That is a pound you gained.
I looked at the other comments and replies, and you are doing much better on your decision making than most would. For example you skipped dinner because you wanted to stay within your goal. You did not have to do that for two pieces of cake.
But you did and it is not considered anything related to "cheating" ! You DID NOT cheat.
You are safe and if you think this way in the future you are still doing great!
Have the cake and eat your dinner... Or just eat the cake if you feel you have to make your calorie goal. THIS IN NOT CONSIDERED CHEATING, A CHEAT MEAL, or ANYTHING BAD.
I explained my cheat meal (mine is different thinking than most, I do not eat my 1200 calories and add another 1200 calories of what ever food to be cheating)
Get it now... I hope so!0 -
Nope, as long as you are logging accurate that's not a cheat at all. If you have a surplus of calories, and are still hungry, use them up too.
Think of it as having a guilt free relationship with food and staying within your limits.0 -
the thing with this place is it helps you to re-educate yourself and get rid of the concept of good and bad foods, gimmicks, needless rules and shoddy 'new and improved weight loss in no time for no effort' schemes
it's all about calories in vs calories out
if you can throw away every piece of knowledge you have about 'dieting' that isn't about calories you'll do well at the start
then once you have that down you can start learning about the macros and nutrition etc
Seems like after endless of research there's still a lot that i don't know.You should consider being evaluated by a mental health professional.
thats harsh . why would you say that.I will add this, if a person ate 1200 calories in cocoa puffs, peanut butter crackers, poptarts, ravioli and this added up to 1200 calories. It is still 1200 calories.
I think the thing is "where is the nutrition in this". There are those that do eat like this and perfectly fine! I ate like this when I was single and living alone. It was cheap and easy. I was not fat..
So a piece of lemon cake is not hurting your calorie goal or weight loss. I do a cheat meal where I eat fast food every Friday. Something I like, but it is still calorie efficient. FOr example if I go to Arby's I pick a meal within my calorie goal...
Thank you, but i don't understand something you said. If my cake doesn't considered as a cheat meal, why would your "within my calorie goal" food considered a cheat meal? Sorry because english is not my native language i always have a hard time understanding what people says.
Let me explain... My cheat meal may be considered a regular meal to others. It is fast food so I generally do not eat this type of food the other 6 days of the week. So mentally I am cheating by eating fried food (high carb, fat, sugar, sodium). Not much nutritional.
As far as what MrM27 said... I meant to say If you eat 1200 (if that is your daily intake of food) and you consume 3500 additional calories. That is a pound you gained.
I looked at the other comments and replies, and you are doing much better on your decision making than most would. For example you skipped dinner because you wanted to stay within your goal. You did not have to do that for two pieces of cake.
But you did and it is not considered anything related to "cheating" ! You DID NOT cheat.
You are safe and if you think this way in the future you are still doing great!
Have the cake and eat your dinner... Or just eat the cake if you feel you have to make your calorie goal. THIS IN NOT CONSIDERED CHEATING, A CHEAT MEAL, or ANYTHING BAD.
I explained my cheat meal (mine is different thinking than most, I do not eat my 1200 calories and add another 1200 calories of what ever food to be cheating)
Get it now... I hope so!
yes i definitely got it! thank you for your time. I guess my concept of cheating is similar to yours. ( high carb sugar etc = cheat )Nope, as long as you are logging accurate that's not a cheat at all. If you have a surplus of calories, and are still hungry, use them up too.
Think of it as having a guilt free relationship with food and staying within your limits.
It is good to know that dieting can be so flexible. thank you..0 -
the problem is there's too much noise
I only became successful once I got rid of all the noise and went back to the very basics
calories in < calories out = lose weight
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the problem is there's too much noise
I only became successful once I got rid of all the noise and went back to the very basics
calories in < calories out = lose weight
I'm quite a slow learner so i just want to clear this up -- as long as i hit the calories goal, what i eat won't matter AT ALL? If it won't affect my weight, will it affect my body shape? Of course, i know that i have to eat healthy food to get the nutrition. But what if i eat a lot of high carbs food (under calories goal), surely i will accumulate some fats right? sorry i'm just confused by what i was raised to believe.0 -
the problem is there's too much noise
I only became successful once I got rid of all the noise and went back to the very basics
calories in < calories out = lose weight
I'm quite a slow learner so i just want to clear this up -- as long as i hit the calories goal, what i eat won't matter AT ALL? If it won't affect my weight, will it affect my body shape? Of course, i know that i have to eat healthy food to get the nutrition. But what if i eat a lot of high carbs food (under calories goal), surely i will accumulate some fats right? sorry i'm just confused by what i was raised to believe.
here are the basics..
calorie deficit = weight loss < so yes, you can eat whatever you want, be in a deficit, and lose weight. Just google the twinkie diet.
macro and micro adherence for body composition and overall health and fitness < as you lose more weight and body fat and think that you want to get to lower body fat, or recomp your body then you are going to have to more strictly follow what you eat, i.e macro and micro breakdown...0 -
TimothyFish wrote: »Making a meal of cake isn't the healthiest thing to do, but for weight loss, there's no reason why you can't do that. (I've done it more than once.) Whether or not you call it a cheat meal, that is up to you. But if I were allowing myself a cheat meal every week, I wouldn't call this one a cheat meal because I could still have my cheat meal and meet my calorie goal for the week.Sevendust912 wrote: »If you are under your calorie allotment, it's not a cheat.
On a side note, calling meals "cheat meals" is dumb IMO, if you go over your goal, just make up for it the next day or days if it can't be made up in a single day.cheat meal implies that you did something wrong, and there is never anything wrong with eating cake, especially if you stayed within your calorie goal..
there is nothing bad/cheating/whatever about eating cake, ice cream, cookies, pizza, etc…they are all just food that your body uses for energy. Stay within your calorie and macro targets and you will be fine…
why shouldn't you eat two slices of "the cake"?
Guess i shouldn't call it a cheat meal then. But i can't help myself but feel bad because of the fat content of the food. But i understand that i have to move on and eat ''cleaner'' tomorrow. Thanks.
fat is not "bad"...
and eating clean has nothing to do with anything..
my two cents - eat the cake, enjoy it, and don't worry about if it is clean or not, or having to "make up for it"....This kind of thought process leads to restriction which tends to lead to binging, in my opinion.0 -
the problem is there's too much noise
I only became successful once I got rid of all the noise and went back to the very basics
calories in < calories out = lose weight
I'm quite a slow learner so i just want to clear this up -- as long as i hit the calories goal, what i eat won't matter AT ALL? If it won't affect my weight, will it affect my body shape? Of course, i know that i have to eat healthy food to get the nutrition. But what if i eat a lot of high carbs food (under calories goal), surely i will accumulate some fats right? sorry i'm just confused by what i was raised to believe.
Its not quite that black and white...
From a weight loss standpoint, yes, all you need to worry about is creating a caloric deficit.
Me personally, I'm not concerned with weight loss - I want FAT loss. I don't want my muscle to go away, so I create a caloric deficit AND a minimum protein requirement to fuel/build/maintain my muscle mass.
I also want to be healthy so I throw in a few healthy fats.
If I have calories left over, then I eat plenty of carbs and unhealthy fats because I also want to be happy and sane.
As a summary, here is what I care about prioritized from highest to lowest:
1) Net calories
2) Protein intake
3) fat intake
So, eating cake to get to your calorie goal - thats fine for that day. If you do it every day, you'll end up losing a lot of muscle mass along with your fat. The effect will be a "skinny fat" look and a slower metabolism in the long run. However, doing this on occasion is totally fine as long as your nutrition is OK the majority of the time.
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There is nothing wrong with allowing yourself a "cheat" meal or "refeed" meal. Going cold turkey on a new nutrition program is hard for some people to do. The cheat meal helps one to make the transition to healthier eating while gradually weaning them off of less healthy favorite foods. It can help you learn that those unhealthy foods can be an occasional indulgence rather than part of an everyday diet. That's where the cheat meal can work for eating habits!
Cheat meals, cheat days or "refeeds" can also help with fat loss in a program of healthy eating coupled with exercise. A rigorous routine including healthy eating and exercise can make some people go through a weight-loss plateau. The body tries to halt the weight loss process by slowing the metabolism and increasing its effectiveness at fat uptake. A refeed helps to trick your body into thinking that the lean diet is over so hormone levels normalize which, in turn, breaks you out of the fat loss plateau. Refeeds are not, however, an "eat-whatever-you-want" extravaganza. There are guidelines to making the refeed an effective diversion for the body so fat loss can continue.0 -
TimothyFish wrote: »Making a meal of cake isn't the healthiest thing to do, but for weight loss, there's no reason why you can't do that. (I've done it more than once.) Whether or not you call it a cheat meal, that is up to you. But if I were allowing myself a cheat meal every week, I wouldn't call this one a cheat meal because I could still have my cheat meal and meet my calorie goal for the week.Sevendust912 wrote: »If you are under your calorie allotment, it's not a cheat.
On a side note, calling meals "cheat meals" is dumb IMO, if you go over your goal, just make up for it the next day or days if it can't be made up in a single day.cheat meal implies that you did something wrong, and there is never anything wrong with eating cake, especially if you stayed within your calorie goal..
there is nothing bad/cheating/whatever about eating cake, ice cream, cookies, pizza, etc…they are all just food that your body uses for energy. Stay within your calorie and macro targets and you will be fine…
why shouldn't you eat two slices of "the cake"?
Guess i shouldn't call it a cheat meal then. But i can't help myself but feel bad because of the fat content of the food. But i understand that i have to move on and eat ''cleaner'' tomorrow. Thanks.
fat is not "bad"...
and eating clean has nothing to do with anything..
my two cents - eat the cake, enjoy it, and don't worry about if it is clean or not, or having to "make up for it"....This kind of thought process leads to restriction which tends to lead to binging, in my opinion.GauchoMark wrote: »the problem is there's too much noise
I only became successful once I got rid of all the noise and went back to the very basics
calories in < calories out = lose weight
I'm quite a slow learner so i just want to clear this up -- as long as i hit the calories goal, what i eat won't matter AT ALL? If it won't affect my weight, will it affect my body shape? Of course, i know that i have to eat healthy food to get the nutrition. But what if i eat a lot of high carbs food (under calories goal), surely i will accumulate some fats right? sorry i'm just confused by what i was raised to believe.
Its not quite that black and white...
From a weight loss standpoint, yes, all you need to worry about is creating a caloric deficit.
Me personally, I'm not concerned with weight loss - I want FAT loss. I don't want my muscle to go away, so I create a caloric deficit AND a minimum protein requirement to fuel/build/maintain my muscle mass.
I also want to be healthy so I throw in a few healthy fats.
If I have calories left over, then I eat plenty of carbs and unhealthy fats because I also want to be happy and sane.
As a summary, here is what I care about prioritized from highest to lowest:
1) Net calories
2) Protein intake
3) fat intake
So, eating cake to get to your calorie goal - thats fine for that day. If you do it every day, you'll end up losing a lot of muscle mass along with your fat. The effect will be a "skinny fat" look and a slower metabolism in the long run. However, doing this on occasion is totally fine as long as your nutrition is OK the majority of the time.
Ohhh noo. Then i think i got all this wrong from the start. I'm actually quite comfortable with my weight (hell my BMI is close to underweight) but i have those stubborn fats all over my body (stomach, thigh). I thought if i lose some weight it will go away so i started counting my calorie, but today i lost 4 kg my waistline didn't reduce AT ALL. However, overall i do look better and that day I managed to fit into pants that was too small for me. Now my main problem is my stupid belly fat. What should i do. Should i still continue the calorie deficit thing or just do the protein/fat intake?
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TimothyFish wrote: »Making a meal of cake isn't the healthiest thing to do, but for weight loss, there's no reason why you can't do that. (I've done it more than once.) Whether or not you call it a cheat meal, that is up to you. But if I were allowing myself a cheat meal every week, I wouldn't call this one a cheat meal because I could still have my cheat meal and meet my calorie goal for the week.Sevendust912 wrote: »If you are under your calorie allotment, it's not a cheat.
On a side note, calling meals "cheat meals" is dumb IMO, if you go over your goal, just make up for it the next day or days if it can't be made up in a single day.cheat meal implies that you did something wrong, and there is never anything wrong with eating cake, especially if you stayed within your calorie goal..
there is nothing bad/cheating/whatever about eating cake, ice cream, cookies, pizza, etc…they are all just food that your body uses for energy. Stay within your calorie and macro targets and you will be fine…
why shouldn't you eat two slices of "the cake"?
Guess i shouldn't call it a cheat meal then. But i can't help myself but feel bad because of the fat content of the food. But i understand that i have to move on and eat ''cleaner'' tomorrow. Thanks.
fat is not "bad"...
and eating clean has nothing to do with anything..
my two cents - eat the cake, enjoy it, and don't worry about if it is clean or not, or having to "make up for it"....This kind of thought process leads to restriction which tends to lead to binging, in my opinion.GauchoMark wrote: »the problem is there's too much noise
I only became successful once I got rid of all the noise and went back to the very basics
calories in < calories out = lose weight
I'm quite a slow learner so i just want to clear this up -- as long as i hit the calories goal, what i eat won't matter AT ALL? If it won't affect my weight, will it affect my body shape? Of course, i know that i have to eat healthy food to get the nutrition. But what if i eat a lot of high carbs food (under calories goal), surely i will accumulate some fats right? sorry i'm just confused by what i was raised to believe.
Its not quite that black and white...
From a weight loss standpoint, yes, all you need to worry about is creating a caloric deficit.
Me personally, I'm not concerned with weight loss - I want FAT loss. I don't want my muscle to go away, so I create a caloric deficit AND a minimum protein requirement to fuel/build/maintain my muscle mass.
I also want to be healthy so I throw in a few healthy fats.
If I have calories left over, then I eat plenty of carbs and unhealthy fats because I also want to be happy and sane.
As a summary, here is what I care about prioritized from highest to lowest:
1) Net calories
2) Protein intake
3) fat intake
So, eating cake to get to your calorie goal - thats fine for that day. If you do it every day, you'll end up losing a lot of muscle mass along with your fat. The effect will be a "skinny fat" look and a slower metabolism in the long run. However, doing this on occasion is totally fine as long as your nutrition is OK the majority of the time.
Ohhh noo. Then i think i got all this wrong from the start. I'm actually quite comfortable with my weight (hell my BMI is close to underweight) but i have those stubborn fats all over my body (stomach, thigh). I thought if i lose some weight it will go away so i started counting my calorie, but today i lost 4 kg my waistline didn't reduce AT ALL. However, overall i do look better and that day I managed to fit into pants that was too small for me. Now my main problem is my stupid belly fat. What should i do. Should i still continue the calorie deficit thing or just do the protein/fat intake?
do you work out/strength train/etc? If yes, what is your routine?0 -
TimothyFish wrote: »Making a meal of cake isn't the healthiest thing to do, but for weight loss, there's no reason why you can't do that. (I've done it more than once.) Whether or not you call it a cheat meal, that is up to you. But if I were allowing myself a cheat meal every week, I wouldn't call this one a cheat meal because I could still have my cheat meal and meet my calorie goal for the week.Sevendust912 wrote: »If you are under your calorie allotment, it's not a cheat.
On a side note, calling meals "cheat meals" is dumb IMO, if you go over your goal, just make up for it the next day or days if it can't be made up in a single day.cheat meal implies that you did something wrong, and there is never anything wrong with eating cake, especially if you stayed within your calorie goal..
there is nothing bad/cheating/whatever about eating cake, ice cream, cookies, pizza, etc…they are all just food that your body uses for energy. Stay within your calorie and macro targets and you will be fine…
why shouldn't you eat two slices of "the cake"?
Guess i shouldn't call it a cheat meal then. But i can't help myself but feel bad because of the fat content of the food. But i understand that i have to move on and eat ''cleaner'' tomorrow. Thanks.
fat is not "bad"...
and eating clean has nothing to do with anything..
my two cents - eat the cake, enjoy it, and don't worry about if it is clean or not, or having to "make up for it"....This kind of thought process leads to restriction which tends to lead to binging, in my opinion.GauchoMark wrote: »the problem is there's too much noise
I only became successful once I got rid of all the noise and went back to the very basics
calories in < calories out = lose weight
I'm quite a slow learner so i just want to clear this up -- as long as i hit the calories goal, what i eat won't matter AT ALL? If it won't affect my weight, will it affect my body shape? Of course, i know that i have to eat healthy food to get the nutrition. But what if i eat a lot of high carbs food (under calories goal), surely i will accumulate some fats right? sorry i'm just confused by what i was raised to believe.
Its not quite that black and white...
From a weight loss standpoint, yes, all you need to worry about is creating a caloric deficit.
Me personally, I'm not concerned with weight loss - I want FAT loss. I don't want my muscle to go away, so I create a caloric deficit AND a minimum protein requirement to fuel/build/maintain my muscle mass.
I also want to be healthy so I throw in a few healthy fats.
If I have calories left over, then I eat plenty of carbs and unhealthy fats because I also want to be happy and sane.
As a summary, here is what I care about prioritized from highest to lowest:
1) Net calories
2) Protein intake
3) fat intake
So, eating cake to get to your calorie goal - thats fine for that day. If you do it every day, you'll end up losing a lot of muscle mass along with your fat. The effect will be a "skinny fat" look and a slower metabolism in the long run. However, doing this on occasion is totally fine as long as your nutrition is OK the majority of the time.
Ohhh noo. Then i think i got all this wrong from the start. I'm actually quite comfortable with my weight (hell my BMI is close to underweight) but i have those stubborn fats all over my body (stomach, thigh). I thought if i lose some weight it will go away so i started counting my calorie, but today i lost 4 kg my waistline didn't reduce AT ALL. However, overall i do look better and that day I managed to fit into pants that was too small for me. Now my main problem is my stupid belly fat. What should i do. Should i still continue the calorie deficit thing or just do the protein/fat intake?
do you work out/strength train/etc? If yes, what is your routine?
I am currently trying to do cardio once every 2 days. But I'm a beginner and get tired REALLY fast and tend to give up.
However i can feel myself improving. So i would say for now its total 1 hour of cardio (both low and high intensity) in a week. I know how little it is but I'm still improving. Why do you ask? 0
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