Do I have too much belly fat to bulk? Pictures Attached

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  • sarahrbraun
    sarahrbraun Posts: 2,261 Member
    FromHereOnOut wrote: »
    caesar164 wrote: »
    but you need to train like you want to be the biggest dude on earth, to see what results you can yield
    Great point. Women too should train like they want to get "bulky", in order to get super sexy, but I never thought of it this way for guys too. I will remember this for when my son gets older.

    I love this!! I'm going to be 40 in a few weeks, and I've been training with a 21yo bodybuilder for 9 months now. My 1RM on some of the lifts are REALLY good, and it shows. I've only lost like 10lbs in 2 years, but I have lost 3-4 inches off my waist in 7 months.
  • Abstraktimus
    Abstraktimus Posts: 213 Member
    With everyone saying about
    beastcompany wrote: »
    Unless you're obese, at 19 years old you should not be considering cutting.


    Your body is primed for growth & development thanks to (still) raging hormone levels that create great potential for recovery after training and potential to pack on some serious lean mass.

    What age does this stop?
  • adman50
    adman50 Posts: 34 Member
    Lift that weight like a ladies skirt!
  • JoRocka
    JoRocka Posts: 17,525 Member
    Abstraktimus wrote: »
    With everyone saying about
    beastcompany wrote: »
    Unless you're obese, at 19 years old you should not be considering cutting.


    Your body is primed for growth & development thanks to (still) raging hormone levels that create great potential for recovery after training and potential to pack on some serious lean mass.

    What age does this stop?

    there is no set age- and it will depend a lot on how you train to- but when you're a young guy- you have a lot going for you- might as well push it as hard as you can while you can- as you get older you'll regret if if you don't.

    That muscle built at that age- even through college- it tends to stay with you and also create positive body image AND give you the tools you need to be successful.

    Even when I wasnt' lifting regularly- I stayed reasonably muscular because I had a solid athletic base from high school all the way through college- my construction work made sure I didn't atrophy too much- but I had such a great foundation- coming back to it full force was a snap.
  • anask4
    anask4 Posts: 86 Member
    caesar164 wrote: »
    Sure his hormones may be peaking at this age, but not everyone has shitload of testosterone flowing.... One thing I could tell you though, all that cardio before you start lifting is not helping you make any muscle gains... You say you don't want to get huge, genetically you probably will have a hard time getting really big; but you need to train like you want to be the biggest dude on earth, to see what results you can yield; by saying, I don't want to get that big,all that says to me is that you don't want to train that hard....

    Its not that I dont want to be huge, its just that at the very least I want to have a muscular and lean look. If my body fat was lower, theres nothing I would like more than living in the gym, eating everything, and getting jacked
  • JoRocka
    JoRocka Posts: 17,525 Member
    how do you think all that happens???

    it doesn't happen by wishing.

    And there isn't some magical- when I reach a certain stage I can play with the big boys.... get in there- lift - eat.... rest... lift eat. rest- do all the things. lather rinse repeat.
  • anask4
    anask4 Posts: 86 Member
    JoRocka wrote: »
    how do you think all that happens???

    it doesn't happen by wishing.

    And there isn't some magical- when I reach a certain stage I can play with the big boys.... get in there- lift - eat.... rest... lift eat. rest- do all the things. lather rinse repeat.

    So you dont think I should worry about cutting down the belly fat first? If I get rid of it now a cut after bulking would be much easier.
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  • LolBroScience
    LolBroScience Posts: 4,537 Member
    Slow lean mass gaining
  • caesar164
    caesar164 Posts: 312 Member
    Your training should consist of the fundamentals; barbell and dumbbell compound movements. Your goal should be to increase strength. Training should always be intense, and progressive in time. As you gain experience you could experiment with split routines,but always implement compound movements. As far as cardio is concerned, I know its good for heart health and all that, but I would eliminate it completely or do it sparingly, and not the same days as lifting days. The way your body responds to this training will be determined by your diet and also supplements may give you an edge. I would start by eating at 100-200 calories above maintenance. I know this is a iifym site which permits flexible dieting as long as it fits macros; but in your case, your diet should consist of red meat, chicken, fish, potatoes, sweet potatoes, eggs oatmeal, rice, beans, vegetables, fruits, milk, etc; these foods will help keep you in a anabolic state.
    If by some miracle your body explodes in growth, arms get huge, delts grow like coconuts, chest like a barrel, legs like tree trunks; you will not be like "oh no I'm to big"... you will love it and become addicted to it!lol.. If you stay consistent the gains you make can become addicting!
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  • hamoncan
    hamoncan Posts: 148 Member
    Or... if you just want to be lean and fit, do something not involving weights or a machine at a gym - get active and take up a sport, team or individual - you're 19, you can do anything
  • FunkyTobias
    FunkyTobias Posts: 1,776 Member
    caesar164 wrote: »
    Your training should consist of the fundamentals; barbell and dumbbell compound movements. Your goal should be to increase strength. Training should always be intense, and progressive in time. As you gain experience you could experiment with split routines,but always implement compound movements. As far as cardio is concerned, I know its good for heart health and all that, but I would eliminate it completely or do it sparingly, and not the same days as lifting days. The way your body responds to this training will be determined by your diet and also supplements may give you an edge. I would start by eating at 100-200 calories above maintenance. I know this is a iifym site which permits flexible dieting as long as it fits macros; but in your case, your diet should consist of red meat, chicken, fish, potatoes, sweet potatoes, eggs oatmeal, rice, beans, vegetables, fruits, milk, etc; these foods will help keep you in a anabolic state.
    If by some miracle your body explodes in growth, arms get huge, delts grow like coconuts, chest like a barrel, legs like tree trunks; you will not be like "oh no I'm to big"... you will love it and become addicted to it!lol.. If you stay consistent the gains you make can become addicting!

    Please to explain how these foods are more anabolic than any other foods (given the same macros).

  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    caesar164 wrote: »
    Your training should consist of the fundamentals; barbell and dumbbell compound movements. Your goal should be to increase strength. Training should always be intense, and progressive in time. As you gain experience you could experiment with split routines,but always implement compound movements. As far as cardio is concerned, I know its good for heart health and all that, but I would eliminate it completely or do it sparingly, and not the same days as lifting days. The way your body responds to this training will be determined by your diet and also supplements may give you an edge. I would start by eating at 100-200 calories above maintenance. I know this is a iifym site which permits flexible dieting as long as it fits macros; but in your case, your diet should consist of red meat, chicken, fish, potatoes, sweet potatoes, eggs oatmeal, rice, beans, vegetables, fruits, milk, etc; these foods will help keep you in a anabolic state.
    If by some miracle your body explodes in growth, arms get huge, delts grow like coconuts, chest like a barrel, legs like tree trunks; you will not be like "oh no I'm to big"... you will love it and become addicted to it!lol.. If you stay consistent the gains you make can become addicting!

    this is an IIFYM site, really? you should tell that to all the Paloe, Keto, Low Carb, clean eating, et al folks that are always on here...

    for the record, I don't do IIFYM either...
  • sarahstrezo
    sarahstrezo Posts: 568 Member
    I agree with all the others who are telling you to EAT and LIFT. Seriously....forget about your belly fat. If you continue to cut until you lose every last ounce of belly fat, you are going to be SKINNY. Plus, the more muscle you build, the easier it is to cut later.
  • TBill13
    TBill13 Posts: 15 Member
    I recommend P90X with a high protein, low fat, low carb diet... will lean you out by working your core and will build muscle in your stomach, back, shoulders, and arms. After that you can build more muscle by lifting if you are looking for more. Takes 90 minutes of dedication for 90 days straight but does really work.
  • NRBreit
    NRBreit Posts: 319 Member
    I think a year at maintenance while lifting heavy would do wonders. Then bulk.
  • beastcompany
    beastcompany Posts: 230 Member
    caesar164 wrote: »
    , your diet should consist of red meat, chicken, fish, potatoes, sweet potatoes, eggs oatmeal, rice, beans, vegetables, fruits, milk, etc; these foods will help keep you in a anabolic state.
    Please provide research that supports your statement.


    Although you could save yourself the time and just admit it's an illogical & incorrect one, as we all already know.
  • anask4
    anask4 Posts: 86 Member
    Appreciate all the advice guys, I will definitely turn my focus to making progress at the gym and eating at maintenance or maybe slightly over.
  • ellisboyd1
    ellisboyd1 Posts: 67 Member
    I see what you mean; I'm in a similar situation. You're obviously not fat, but you've got a few more lbs to lose to get that six pack.

    I'm going to carry on until I've got my six pack, as it was a box I wanted to tick when I started dieting. Then it's mission bulkup.

    Part of it is about wanting to start with a blank canvas.
  • woodml1
    woodml1 Posts: 199 Member
    Time for bulking IMHO. Woo-Hoo! :)

    I'm not sure if it's already been suggested buy you may also want to look at switching up your training. If you've been with SL for 6 months consistently, your body may respond to better to another protocol. I'd also recommend trying to get at least 1 more day in the weight room. You'll be better off with 3, 1-hour strength sessions than with 2, 2 hour strength-cardio combos for bulking.

    Good luck!
  • JeffseekingV
    JeffseekingV Posts: 3,165 Member
    Actually the OP isn't fat. It's just that he lacks the upper body muscularity that would make him "look" thinner. ie.. the upper to lower body V
  • holyfenix
    holyfenix Posts: 99 Member
    Ask yourself what you want from working out. Is it too look better for yourself? Is it too feel better? Get Stronger? Look better for someone else? All those questions have a different answer.
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