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  • PikaKnight
    PikaKnight Posts: 34,971 Member
    edited December 2014
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    ashmeg84 wrote: »
    Are you still doing cardio? You cant just ditch that part---I do weights on tues/thurs/sat/sun and run m/w/f. I lost 20 lbs that way

    Why not? Perfect example - MFPer Sarauk2sf. She lost her initial weight (and does bulks and cuts) working out 3x a week doing ONLY strength training.

    Weight loss is dependent on a calorie deficit, not on the exercise you are doing.

    ETA: And working out 7 days a week with no rest day?
  • PikaKnight
    PikaKnight Posts: 34,971 Member
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    Interesting. I'm 5'8 at 57kg and hold most of my weight in my legs so If i do a basic body fat % test it says 14.7%.

    Basically I just want my body to be exactly the same size except firm and not giggly because I am exactly as you say "skinny fat" haha So If I continue to eat at 2000 calories, I can still lose fat and show muscle under while gaining strength?

    What do you mean by basic body fat test? How are you getting that number?
  • HealthyBodySickMind
    HealthyBodySickMind Posts: 1,207 Member
    edited December 2014
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    I'm new to weight lifting. After reading a ton of success stories I decided to ditch the cardio killer and go heavy! I mean...the idea makes sense! And.... I LOVE it. I'm doing Stronglifts 5x5 and it's great. BUT I'm finding that doing the program as-is, is creating havoc on me! I'm 5'3" and eating 1650 calories a day on average. I'm trying to lose weight (body fat)....but I feel so fatiqued and drained after a lifting session. I would like to eat less...but I'm not sure how that would go over with lifting as it is.

    I'm just wondering what others do for weight lifting, how you live through it, and have you had success?

    I have to split mine up into prepregnancy and current with the breastfeeding.

    Prepregnancy, I was doing 5/3/1 and eating at about 1970 cal/day (on average, I tend to zig zag), and slowly gaining. I put on about 8 lbs over 1.5 years like this, going from 107 to 115. My experimentally determined maintenance is about 1730 cal/day to stay around 109-113 lbs.

    Post preg, with the breastfeeding, I'm eating more like 2500 cal/day while going back to the 5/3/1, but my little one is 10 months old now.

    (if you're looking at my diary now for whatever reason, you should probably ignore the last few days. I had the flu and couldn't keep anything down, so I didn't log it.)

  • sarahstrezo
    sarahstrezo Posts: 568 Member
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    catic32 wrote: »
    Protein should be higher. you should eat 1 to 1.5 grams of protein per pound of body weight. I have a hard time eating that and I eat a lot of eggs, chicken etc etc etc. I am supplementing with protein shakes.

    No. 1 gram per pound of lean body mass.

    Yes...sorry, that is actually what I meant ;)
  • sarahstrezo
    sarahstrezo Posts: 568 Member
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    arditarose wrote: »
    Well, I'm going to be the odd chick out and say, I think 1650 is too low.
    I would definitely give it a few more weeks to see if you feel better as you adjust. But....I;m 5'5" and currently 135 lbs and about 19% body fat and I would be MISERABLE on 1650. I actually cut weight at about 1900-2000. I lift 4 days/week, no cardio.

    You'll definitely need to pay attention to macros because you aren't going to recover well if you aren't eating enough protein or carbs.


    So we are about the same stats. I'm 5'4" and 139, lift 4 days a week with minimal cardio (almost none). I was lifting on 1650 but my weekend eating probably brought me up to an average of 1900 calories per day. I lost about a pound per month like this.

    Do you mind me asking what you lose at 1900-2000 per month?

    It actually differs each week depending on where I'm at in my cycle. But, most weeks, it was average of a .5 lb per week loss or a tad less. I don't like doing big/fast cuts because then my strength tanks big time. And my primary goal is to lift/push/pull big weight.
  • ChristineRoze
    ChristineRoze Posts: 212 Member
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    PikaKnight wrote: »

    What do you mean by basic body fat test? How are you getting that number?

    http://www.calculator.net/body-fat-calculator.html?ctype=metric&csex=f&cheightfeet=5&cheightinch=10.5&cneckfeet=1&cneckinch=7.5&cwaistfeet=3&cwaistinch=1.5&chipfeet=2&chipinch=10.5&cheightmeter=173&cneckmeter=32&cwaistmeter=64&chipmeter=86&x=53&y=13 I just clicked the first google link and put it the 4 units they asked and it comes up with 14.7% As I said all of my weight is in my thighs I am really thin on the top half of my body. I can see my ribs and all my colar bones etc. I have little to no muscle so my stomach is just skinny no definition.
  • PikaKnight
    PikaKnight Posts: 34,971 Member
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    PikaKnight wrote: »

    What do you mean by basic body fat test? How are you getting that number?

    http://www.calculator.net/body-fat-calculator.html?ctype=metric&csex=f&cheightfeet=5&cheightinch=10.5&cneckfeet=1&cneckinch=7.5&cwaistfeet=3&cwaistinch=1.5&chipfeet=2&chipinch=10.5&cheightmeter=173&cneckmeter=32&cwaistmeter=64&chipmeter=86&x=53&y=13 I just clicked the first google link and put it the 4 units they asked and it comes up with 14.7% As I said all of my weight is in my thighs I am really thin on the top half of my body. I can see my ribs and all my colar bones etc. I have little to no muscle so my stomach is just skinny no definition.

    The online calculators really aren't good for estimating body fat. Here's a link with some descriptions of the current body fat measuring tools/methods and the pros and cons of each.

    http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/830595
  • ChristineRoze
    ChristineRoze Posts: 212 Member
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    PikaKnight wrote: »

    The online calculators really aren't good for estimating body fat. Here's a link with some descriptions of the current body fat measuring tools/methods and the pros and cons of each.

    http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/830595

    To be honest, I don't really understand what you want me to do with that information? How am I meant to measure myself with those methods

  • PikaKnight
    PikaKnight Posts: 34,971 Member
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    PikaKnight wrote: »

    The online calculators really aren't good for estimating body fat. Here's a link with some descriptions of the current body fat measuring tools/methods and the pros and cons of each.

    http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/830595

    To be honest, I don't really understand what you want me to do with that information? How am I meant to measure myself with those methods

    The information is meant to give you an idea on the actual accuracy/inaccuracy of different body fat estimation tools/methods.

    If you are looking for a more accurate method, then you could call around and see about setting up an appointment to do a dexa scan or get hydrostatic tested for your body fat. Or you could join the Eat, Train, Progress group and post up your pictures (please make sure to read the post first to make sure you get the poses they need) in their body fat estimation thread and have them give you their opinion on your body fat. They are pretty accurate with their estimations.
  • gmallan
    gmallan Posts: 2,099 Member
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    How's your sleep? Are you getting enough? Adequate sleep is a critical part of any program and the number one proven way to recover better and beat fatigue. Seems obvious when I put it out there but I find it isn't often mentioned in threads like this.
  • JoRocka
    JoRocka Posts: 17,525 Member
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    PikaKnight wrote: »

    The online calculators really aren't good for estimating body fat. Here's a link with some descriptions of the current body fat measuring tools/methods and the pros and cons of each.

    http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/830595

    To be honest, I don't really understand what you want me to do with that information? How am I meant to measure myself with those methods
    oiy.

    Google the body fat % picture- go look at yourself in good light- and compare yourself to that picture.

    It's not AS accurate obviously- but it's damn good starting point all in all... don't over think it.
  • SnuggleSmacks
    SnuggleSmacks Posts: 3,731 Member
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    JoRocka wrote: »
    PikaKnight wrote: »

    The online calculators really aren't good for estimating body fat. Here's a link with some descriptions of the current body fat measuring tools/methods and the pros and cons of each.

    http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/830595

    To be honest, I don't really understand what you want me to do with that information? How am I meant to measure myself with those methods
    oiy.

    Google the body fat % picture- go look at yourself in good light- and compare yourself to that picture.

    It's not AS accurate obviously- but it's damn good starting point all in all... don't over think it.

    There's no pictures in the link you posted. There's explanations of various ways to calculate body fat. Did you mean something like this:

    http://www.builtlean.com/2012/09/24/body-fat-percentage-men-women/
  • JoRocka
    JoRocka Posts: 17,525 Member
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    there'e no link- I just said go google.

    And yes- that. That is to which I was referring.
  • JGonzo82
    JGonzo82 Posts: 167 Member
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    Well, I'm going to be the odd chick out and say, I think 1650 is too low.
    I would definitely give it a few more weeks to see if you feel better as you adjust. But....I;m 5'5" and currently 135 lbs and about 19% body fat and I would be MISERABLE on 1650. I actually cut weight at about 1900-2000. I lift 4 days/week, no cardio.

    You'll definitely need to pay attention to macros because you aren't going to recover well if you aren't eating enough protein or carbs.

    If you're odd, I'm odd...I'm ~5'4" and ~ 145# and I'm well over 2000cal/day (was up at ~2500/day when I had mandatory PT in addition to the workouts I do on my own).

  • Leadfoot_Lewis
    Leadfoot_Lewis Posts: 1,623 Member
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    I'm just wondering what others do for weight lifting, how you live through it, and have you had success?

    I've been lifting for about 6 years, got more "serious" about 2 years ago. Lift 4-5x a week, only do cardio 1-2x a week. Bulked a little last winter, cut last spring, and currently maintaining @ 2200-2300 kcal, 45%C/30%P/25%F (BW=125lbs @ 5'6"). I honestly look better than ever @ 40 years old.

    I think the keys to success are CONSISTENCY not only with workouts (I rarely miss a workout) but of equal importance is your diet and figuring out (through some trial and error!) where your kcal and macros should be.
  • JoRocka
    JoRocka Posts: 17,525 Member
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    JGonzo82 wrote: »
    Well, I'm going to be the odd chick out and say, I think 1650 is too low.
    I would definitely give it a few more weeks to see if you feel better as you adjust. But....I;m 5'5" and currently 135 lbs and about 19% body fat and I would be MISERABLE on 1650. I actually cut weight at about 1900-2000. I lift 4 days/week, no cardio.

    You'll definitely need to pay attention to macros because you aren't going to recover well if you aren't eating enough protein or carbs.

    If you're odd, I'm odd...I'm ~5'4" and ~ 145# and I'm well over 2000cal/day (was up at ~2500/day when I had mandatory PT in addition to the workouts I do on my own).

    are you losing or maintaining?

    because I'm 5'8" and while I can maintain around 2K- I barely lose at 1650.
  • dlvuyovich
    dlvuyovich Posts: 102 Member
    edited December 2014
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    I'm just wondering what others do for weight lifting, how you live through it, and have you had success?

    I've been lifting for about 6 years, got more "serious" about 2 years ago. Lift 4-5x a week, only do cardio 1-2x a week. Bulked a little last winter, cut last spring, and currently maintaining @ 2200-2300 kcal, 45%C/30%P/25%F (BW=125lbs @ 5'6"). I honestly look better than ever @ 40 years old.

    I think the keys to success are CONSISTENCY not only with workouts (I rarely miss a workout) but of equal importance is your diet and figuring out (through some trial and error!) where your kcal and macros should be.

    I've been following this workout pattern for a few years now, I am also 5'6" 40 years, and while I am eating at 1600-2000 cal/per day, with a higher protein %. I range from 136-140 lbs so it goes to show, it depends on your metabolism (I have hypothyroid, slow metabolism)

    Regardless, it words for me. Even during my complaining last night of 'cookie season', my husband remarked "Babe, even at your current 'feeling fat status', a few years ago you would have killed for the body you have now." He's right, I still feel pretty damn good at 40.

    Consistency works ladies!
  • ChristineRoze
    ChristineRoze Posts: 212 Member
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    JoRocka wrote: »

    There's no pictures in the link you posted. There's explanations of various ways to calculate body fat. Did you mean something like this:

    http://www.builtlean.com/2012/09/24/body-fat-percentage-men-women/

    I don't really look like any of those pictures. Sorry if this is not the correct position to be standing but this is my current weight. I have no muscle showing, just skinny fat.

    DSCN0555_zpse8be9383.jpg