High-fruit Diet: Good or bad?
westonw72
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I generally eat a ton of fruit everyday. In one day, I might eat 1/2 cup Blueberries, 1/2 cup Raspberries, 8 Strawberries, 2 mandarin Oranges, an Apple, and a banana. I still manage my calorie intake, and eat some Vegetables, too. I also am getting Protein mostly in form of whey powder. But, back to the point. I was wondering if anyone know how a diet high in fruit effects you. I know it's a lot of sugar, but I'm sure it's probably okay because it's natural and supplemented with Fiber. Any information or comments would be great!
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Its a lot of fruit but I don't think it should be a problem. I eat a lot of fruit but maybe not quite as much as you list above.
If you are going to eat a lot of anything then fruit is better than just about everything else.
The sugar in fruit is not a problem.
But you must make sure you also eat your daily quota of vegies or at least try to.
Are you eating enough protein? That is the question. If not you need to find more sources. I am skeptical about all the protein powders. You should try to actually eat some protein in the form of real food too.
The best nutrition comes from eating a wide variety of foods. It sounds like you are vegetarian. Are you also avoiding most dairy? then eat eggs.
What about fish?
Certainly every vegetarian and vegan should be eating lots of beans and chickpeas and lentils. This is the easiest and most nutritious way to access the protein you need. If you are vegan, you should be eating these foods at every meal. Preferably not in processed form.
Westerners tend to make things hard for themselves by going vegan because they do not have a tradition of cooking with these foods unlike indians and europeans and middle easterners and south americans.
Also of course you need to eat nuts and seeds. You need some fats in your diet. Trying to live wihtout fats at all is incredibly dumb so don't try. The body needs fat. The brain needs fat. If you do eat nuts, incorporate them into your salads and other dishes rather than snacking becuase that is the route to overeating them.0 -
Hi there, as one who spent several years on a high-fruit, vegan diet -- which also happens to be sub-optimal when it comes to calcium, even with dark, dense green smoothies -- I can say positively that it will rot your teeth. You MUST brush, or at least use mouthwash, after each time you eat, use fluoridated dental products, and supplement with almond milk or something else decently high in calcium, or you're going to rack up quite the dental bill, as I did. Frederic Patenaude is a high-raw blogger whom you can look up for more thoughts on this. Good luck!
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Fruit=sugar, even though it is natural it is still sugar. Treat it as such...0
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Patttience wrote: »Its a lot of fruit but I don't think it should be a problem. I eat a lot of fruit but maybe not quite as much as you list above.
If you are going to eat a lot of anything then fruit is better than just about everything else.
The sugar in fruit is not a problem.
But you must make sure you also eat your daily quota of vegies or at least try to.
Are you eating enough protein? That is the question. If not you need to find more sources. I am skeptical about all the protein powders. You should try to actually eat some protein in the form of real food too.
The best nutrition comes from eating a wide variety of foods. It sounds like you are vegetarian. Are you also avoiding most dairy? then eat eggs.
What about fish?
Certainly every vegetarian and vegan should be eating lots of beans and chickpeas and lentils. This is the easiest and most nutritious way to access the protein you need. If you are vegan, you should be eating these foods at every meal. Preferably not in processed form.
Westerners tend to make things hard for themselves by going vegan because they do not have a tradition of cooking with these foods unlike indians and europeans and middle easterners and south americans.
Also of course you need to eat nuts and seeds. You need some fats in your diet. Trying to live wihtout fats at all is incredibly dumb so don't try. The body needs fat. The brain needs fat. If you do eat nuts, incorporate them into your salads and other dishes rather than snacking becuase that is the route to overeating them.
I am not vegetarian. I enjoy meat, and I do usually eat at least some per day. I also eat eggs and milk.
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Hi there, as one who spent several years on a high-fruit, vegan diet -- which also happens to be sub-optimal when it comes to calcium, even with dark, dense green smoothies -- I can say positively that it will rot your teeth. You MUST brush, or at least use mouthwash, after each time you eat, use fluoridated dental products, and supplement with almond milk or something else decently high in calcium, or you're going to rack up quite the dental bill, as I did. Frederic Patenaude is a high-raw blogger whom you can look up for more thoughts on this. Good luck!
That's an interesting thought, and it's good to know. I will certainly keep this in mind!0 -
I love fruit and eat tons. It's good for me! Today I had:
Strawberries
Raspberries
Blueberries
Blackberries
Cherries
Raisins
...and most of an apple.
I has some veggies, meat and cold cereal with extra-protein milk, too. But the fruit was the highlight of my food day, as it is every day.
I don't know what is good for you. That's for you and your doctor to figure out.
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As long as you meet your other nutrient needs, it's fine. I just highly doubt you do (protein and fat?).0
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Fruit is good for you. Do you also like vegetables? It would be beneficial to eat those as well a variety of other foods.0
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I see that you eat some dairy and meat from your reply to other posters. I don't know the ratios/grams of which foods you are eating. That said, a high high fruit diet may not be giving you enough:
-fat
-protein
-calcium
-iron
-folate
-vitamin A
-vitamin K
-vitamin E
-choline
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I generally eat a ton of fruit everyday. In one day, I might eat 1/2 cup Blueberries, 1/2 cup Raspberries, 8 Strawberries, 2 mandarin Oranges, an Apple, and a banana. I still manage my calorie intake, and eat some Vegetables, too. I also am getting Protein mostly in form of whey powder. But, back to the point. I was wondering if anyone know how a diet high in fruit effects you. I know it's a lot of sugar, but I'm sure it's probably okay because it's natural and supplemented with Fiber. Any information or comments would be great!
What is your goal? If it is a bunch of fiber and vitamins then seems like you are doing well.
If it is weight loss, I would start cutting that back by 90%.
Eat to fit your goal.0 -
I am trying to lose weight and I was just told to stay away from fruit all together. I don't like that comment because I love fruit. I thought there was a difference between "natural" sugar and "junk" sugar? I am at a loss.0
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auntchellebelle wrote: »I am trying to lose weight and I was just told to stay away from fruit all together. I don't like that comment because I love fruit. I thought there was a difference between "natural" sugar and "junk" sugar? I am at a loss.
Eat fruit, eat veggies, eat protein. It's about eating at a caloric deficit.0 -
auntchellebelle wrote: »I am trying to lose weight and I was just told to stay away from fruit all together. I don't like that comment because I love fruit. I thought there was a difference between "natural" sugar and "junk" sugar? I am at a loss.
Sure, there is a difference, but not for weight loss. At the end of the day sugar is sugar when trying to loose weight. Fructose, dextrose, w/e. To lose weight you must be at a caloric deficit. If you can fit fruit into your caloric intake for the day then sure. However, it is a large amount of sugar it will spike blood sugar, which will force your body to produce insulin, and eventually store fat. So its a catch 22. Just stay away during weight loss.0 -
Fruit are is good for you! If you hit yous nutrient needs, fit into your calorie allowance and feel good on that diet, then I guess it's fine. Personnally I need more complex carbs and protein or I will feel physically weak. The only high-something diets I believe in are high variety and high nutrient content
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A lot of fruit is fine if you can fit it into your calorie goal for the day and if you're not sacrificing other macros, such as protein, by eating all that fruit. If you are prediabetic or have diabetes in your family, you might want to reduce the quantity of fruit; otherwise, it's not a problem. I usually have 3-4 servings of fruit a day. Also, some fruits are less caloric than others; berries for instance have fewer calories and less sugar than say a banana.0
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It really depends on your body..........
Have you had blood work to check your cholesterol and triglycerides? If your LDL or triglycerides are high, then you would be best advised to cut out a LOT of the fruit in your eating except for the berries, apples, and fruits like these.
Do you have metabolic disorder, insulin resistance, thyroid issues or Diabetes? If so, then the above would also apply.0 -
I have high cholesterol (but normal triglycerides) and I was never told to reduce the amount of fruit in my diet. I was told to cut saturated fat and processed sweets, which usually have both refined sugar and fat (often transfat). My understanding is that fruit affects blood sugar levels, not cholesterol.0
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If you are not diabetic, you are meeting your protein and micronutrient needs, and you aren't going over your calorie goal, I see no reason to limit fruit.
I eat a ton of fruit. On a typical day I will probably have at least 4-6 servings. I still hit my protein and micronutrient targets and stay between 1300-1500 calories a day without restricting my food intake.
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tannatannabobanna wrote: »auntchellebelle wrote: »I am trying to lose weight and I was just told to stay away from fruit all together. I don't like that comment because I love fruit. I thought there was a difference between "natural" sugar and "junk" sugar? I am at a loss.
Sure, there is a difference, but not for weight loss. At the end of the day sugar is sugar when trying to loose weight. Fructose, dextrose, w/e. To lose weight you must be at a caloric deficit. If you can fit fruit into your caloric intake for the day then sure. However, it is a large amount of sugar it will spike blood sugar, which will force your body to produce insulin, and eventually store fat. So its a catch 22. Just stay away during weight loss.
Staying away from fruit isn't necessary on a cut. As far as fat storing goes, it happens throughout the day, we have peaks and valleys. Valleys> Peaks is where it's at.
In a deficit energy will be used regardless.
http://weightology.net/weightologyweekly/?page_id=319
That sounds nice, however that is not how insulin works: http://science.howstuffworks.com/life/cellular-microscopic/fat-cell2.htm
A large amount of fruit will spike blood glucose levels. It is sugar regardless. This in cause and effect will cause a degree of fat storage. This is why fruit is avoided for athletes and bodybuilders cutting for competition.
To conclude. Some is fine yes, higher fiber fruits apples, kiwis etc in moderation 1 serving a day post exercise. There is no reason for excess.
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What is your goal? If it is a bunch of fiber and vitamins then seems like you are doing well.
If it is weight loss, I would start cutting that back by 90%.
Eat to fit your goal.[/quote]
Well, the thing is I have been eating like this for a while, and I have lost weight in the process..
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auntchellebelle wrote: »I am trying to lose weight and I was just told to stay away from fruit all together. I don't like that comment because I love fruit. I thought there was a difference between "natural" sugar and "junk" sugar? I am at a loss.
I don't believe this at all. I can tell you that I have lost weight eating Mostly fruit. And you're right, there is a difference between natural sugar and junk sugar. Not in the sugar itself, but in the way it's consumed. The Fiber in the fruits helps you digest it and changes the way you metabolize it. Plus, I believe a banana has about 14g of sugar. A can of soda has 40-45g. There are people who drink like 5 sodas a day, and THAT'S where you run into trouble. Eat fruit.
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What is your goal? If it is a bunch of fiber and vitamins then seems like you are doing well.
If it is weight loss, I would start cutting that back by 90%.
Eat to fit your goal.
Well, the thing is I have been eating like this for a while, and I have lost weight in the process..
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Sure it is possible, what is your current BFP? Have you introduced a new training routine? Are you eating less than you have before? All factors for weight loss in high BMI cases.0 -
PaleoPath4Lyfe wrote: »It really depends on your body..........
Have you had blood work to check your cholesterol and triglycerides? If your LDL or triglycerides are high, then you would be best advised to cut out a LOT of the fruit in your eating except for the berries, apples, and fruits like these.
Do you have metabolic disorder, insulin resistance, thyroid issues or Diabetes? If so, then the above would also apply.
Haven't had measurements taken in a long time, but I believe I'm very healthy. I'm 5'11 172 lbs, so at a healthy weight, too. Healthy blood pressure.
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Unless you have a metabolic disorder, insulin resistance, or diabetes, it's perfectly fine to eat that much fruit.0
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Sure it is possible, what is your current BFP? Have you introduced a new training routine? Are you eating less than you have before? All factors for weight loss in high BMI cases. [/quote]
Body fat percentage.. I have no idea how to find that out lol.. Yes, I have been hitting the gym (weights & cardio) which was initially totally new to me. And yes, I used to eat whatever I wanted (a lot) and now I log all my food and Avg. About 1500 cal. Per day. Doesn't sound like very much but it's enough to satisfy me.
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tannatannabobanna wrote: »tannatannabobanna wrote: »auntchellebelle wrote: »I am trying to lose weight and I was just told to stay away from fruit all together. I don't like that comment because I love fruit. I thought there was a difference between "natural" sugar and "junk" sugar? I am at a loss.
Sure, there is a difference, but not for weight loss. At the end of the day sugar is sugar when trying to loose weight. Fructose, dextrose, w/e. To lose weight you must be at a caloric deficit. If you can fit fruit into your caloric intake for the day then sure. However, it is a large amount of sugar it will spike blood sugar, which will force your body to produce insulin, and eventually store fat. So its a catch 22. Just stay away during weight loss.
Staying away from fruit isn't necessary on a cut. As far as fat storing goes, it happens throughout the day, we have peaks and valleys. Valleys> Peaks is where it's at.
In a deficit energy will be used regardless.
http://weightology.net/weightologyweekly/?page_id=319
That sounds nice, however that is not how insulin works: http://science.howstuffworks.com/life/cellular-microscopic/fat-cell2.htm
A large amount of fruit will spike blood glucose levels. It is sugar regardless. This in cause and effect will cause a degree of fat storage. This is why fruit is avoided for athletes and bodybuilders cutting for competition.
To conclude. Some is fine yes, higher fiber fruits apples, kiwis etc in moderation 1 serving a day post exercise. There is no reason for excess.
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I have a banana, kiwi fruit, blackberries, rasberries and pineapple nearly everyday for lunch and I've had no problems losing weight. I'm addicted to fruit! I've also swapped chocolate for berries. It helps my sweet tooth with hundreds less calories.0
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when i was trying to lose weight a long time ago I saw a well known nutritionist in toronto who told me to limit my fruit intake to 2 pieces a day. Something about it producing insulin and insulin hoards fat. I also used to see a lot of weight loss stories from a while back (ie Richard Simmons days) when they would get overweight people to eat a lot of fruit. Today they strictly limit the fruit0
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