Dr. Phil 20/20 Diet- is he becoming the next Dr. Oz?

missiontofitness
missiontofitness Posts: 4,059 Member
edited November 9 in Health and Weight Loss
So I'm watching the Dr. Phil show; I only watched it sporadically today, since I was busy doing other things. It covered the weight concerns of the guests, and where they came from to where they are now. Apparently he's come up with his own "phase" diet. If you go to his site, there's also convienently a link to purchase the Ninja blender for the LOW LOW price of $199.99.

I was hoping for some trash TV on Dr. Phil today. I have absolutely no intention of doing this (because the tagline of his book is "20 Key Foods to Help You Succeed Where Other Diets Fail"). But let's all talk about this new ~*~miracle diet~*~ being plugged by yet another person with no nutrition credentials!
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  • AskTracyAnnK28
    AskTracyAnnK28 Posts: 2,817 Member
    I don't even think he's a real doctor!!

    ugh ...another windbag snakeoil salesman!
  • trisH_7183
    trisH_7183 Posts: 1,486 Member
    Money Talks !!!
  • Holly_Roman_Empire
    Holly_Roman_Empire Posts: 4,440 Member
    I wouldn't call him thin or fit. Hmmph.
  • missiontofitness
    missiontofitness Posts: 4,059 Member
    I don't even think he's a real doctor!!

    ugh ...another windbag snakeoil salesman!
    He technically "is" since he has a doctorate (I say that loosely of course)...but other than that, he isn't a licensced psychologist, and retired in 2006. No medical credentials to my knowledge!

  • Tedebearduff
    Tedebearduff Posts: 1,155 Member
    I wouldn't call him thin or fit. Hmmph.

    lol!!!!!!!
  • MelanieRBrace
    MelanieRBrace Posts: 245 Member
    I think his ratings have been doing down alot, particularily this year. It's another way for him to make loads more cash and boost ratings.
  • jdhcm2006
    jdhcm2006 Posts: 2,254 Member
    To be fair, I do love my Ninja blender, but I have the cheap one, the one that's like 50 bucks and comes with a food processor. I also got it on sale at Target and used my red card. But $200 for a blender, is redonkulous!

    And wasn't Dr. Phil's license revoked? I thought I read that somewhere.
  • Kalikel
    Kalikel Posts: 9,603 Member
    As long as he doesn't pretend it's medical advice, I wish him well selling his $200 blender.
  • missiontofitness
    missiontofitness Posts: 4,059 Member
    jdhcm2006 wrote: »
    To be fair, I do love my Ninja blender, but I have the cheap one, the one that's like 50 bucks and comes with a food processor. I also got it on sale at Target and used my red card. But $200 for a blender, is redonkulous!

    And wasn't Dr. Phil's license revoked? I thought I read that somewhere.

    To my knowledge, he retired his license to officially practice in 2006. He just bases his show on his experience as a professional, and it's not actual medical/psychological advice.
  • rosebette
    rosebette Posts: 1,660 Member
    I have a Dr. Phil diet book that I got at a yard sale a few years ago. It had a calorie counter, talked about high yield, low density foods, etc., nothing that you wouldn't read anywhere else. I doubt if he's going to say anything new or different.
  • sherbear702
    sherbear702 Posts: 650 Member
    I love Dr. Phil! I don't think he's becoming the "next Dr. Oz" because Dr. Phil doesn't really offer medical advice in the same respect that Dr. Oz does. Dr. Phil wrote another diet book about 10 years ago, it's just one more book among the 1,000's of other weigh loss books out there. And you know what, if that book is what people need to give them a jump start adn helps them lose weight, than good for them!
  • sherbear702
    sherbear702 Posts: 650 Member
    jdhcm2006 wrote: »
    To be fair, I do love my Ninja blender, but I have the cheap one, the one that's like 50 bucks and comes with a food processor. I also got it on sale at Target and used my red card. But $200 for a blender, is redonkulous!

    And wasn't Dr. Phil's license revoked? I thought I read that somewhere.

    To my knowledge, he retired his license to officially practice in 2006. He just bases his show on his experience as a professional, and it's not actual medical/psychological advice.

    ^^^That^^^ If you notice he never offers his personal help. He offers "resources" avaliable to him in order to help people with whatever their problem/issue is.
  • NikonPal
    NikonPal Posts: 1,346 Member
    Find his analysis comparable to a fortune cookie. “So how’s that workin’ for ya?” LOL

    I hadn’t watched Dr. Phil in years! Until today!

    I was walking on a treadmill at PF and listening to my music. Dr. Phil appeared on the TV screen before me & I could tell it was about obese people and diets. In the end, I ended up watching 15 minutes.

    Same huckster…. Think I’ll pass on his latest endeavor 20/20.


  • missiontofitness
    missiontofitness Posts: 4,059 Member
    jdhcm2006 wrote: »
    To be fair, I do love my Ninja blender, but I have the cheap one, the one that's like 50 bucks and comes with a food processor. I also got it on sale at Target and used my red card. But $200 for a blender, is redonkulous!

    And wasn't Dr. Phil's license revoked? I thought I read that somewhere.

    To my knowledge, he retired his license to officially practice in 2006. He just bases his show on his experience as a professional, and it's not actual medical/psychological advice.

    ^^^That^^^ If you notice he never offers his personal help. He offers "resources" avaliable to him in order to help people with whatever their problem/issue is.

    True.
    But don't you think developing your own diet plan based on phases and foods you should eat during each phase as a bit inappropriate? He has no background in nutrition, yet he is branding a diet in his name.
  • missiontofitness
    missiontofitness Posts: 4,059 Member
    rosebette wrote: »
    I have a Dr. Phil diet book that I got at a yard sale a few years ago. It had a calorie counter, talked about high yield, low density foods, etc., nothing that you wouldn't read anywhere else. I doubt if he's going to say anything new or different.

    Wish I could see the full details of this diet book without buying it so I could compare it to what you said; can't find any additional information on it online, other than what was talked about on the show today.
  • dbmata
    dbmata Posts: 12,950 Member
    He has a juris doctorate if I remember correctly, which means he's a lawyer and a pogue.

    He's always been an Oz style shill/quack.

    Thanks Oprah.
  • JeffseekingV
    JeffseekingV Posts: 3,165 Member
    One of the resolutions for 2015, should be to start not believing everything you see on TV and start doing your own research starting here on this site.
  • FredDoyle
    FredDoyle Posts: 2,272 Member
    edited December 2014
    I blame Oprah. She's foisted all these ridiculous woo merchants upon the gullible public.
    I miss Johnny Carson. Skeptic and critical thinker. Funny and smart as well.
  • missiontofitness
    missiontofitness Posts: 4,059 Member
    One of the resolutions for 2015, should be to start not believing everything you see on TV and start doing your own research starting here on this site.

    Amen.
    Scary how many people blindly follow Dr. Oz and buy what he promotes.
  • Liftng4Lis
    Liftng4Lis Posts: 15,151 Member
    I wouldn't call him thin or fit. Hmmph.

    right!
  • girlviernes
    girlviernes Posts: 2,402 Member
    To be fair, he's not trying to get everyone to be perfectly thin, but at a weight that is healthy and sustainable for them. Hard to tell in those suits, but his weight seems to be reasonable and stable.

    The diet seems a bit gimmicky. He covers good things but in the end it's pretty much the same things rehashed. I'd like to see how he describes food combos.
  • Suezyq47
    Suezyq47 Posts: 199 Member
    I love Dr Phil, I did buy the book and have started the 20/20 diet. The diet is based on simple foods that are cheap and no crazy supplements or weird food that you would not normally see in the grocery store. I have been on the diet for 3 days and have dropped 4.8 lbs. I feel great and not hungry between meals. I have been tracking everything and it works out to about 1300-1400 calories per day, and I am finding the recipes tasty and easy to prepare. I think this diet will work well for me and help me to change the way I eat permanently. I have tried many other diets which also worked but they were not sustainable. I need a new way of eating to be sucessful long term and this diet looks like it will be the one that will help me long term.

    As for the Ninja blender/food processor, I have one which I bought at Costco (in Canada) for $160 in November. This blender/processor costs $250 at other stores and you can find it on sale for $200, so him offering it for $199 is fair for Canadians. I am sure people can find it for less in the USA. I absolutely love this Ninja so much that I bought my 2 kids each one and we all love it. I use it everyday.

    As for Dr Phil's credentials, I am not sure what degrees he holds but I love his show and that he does use experts to help people.

    Doctor Oz is a quack as far as I am concerned and will not watch him and hope that his show gets cancelled!
  • missiontofitness
    missiontofitness Posts: 4,059 Member
    Suezyq47 wrote: »
    I love Dr Phil, I did buy the book and have started the 20/20 diet. The diet is based on simple foods that are cheap and no crazy supplements or weird food that you would not normally see in the grocery store. I have been on the diet for 3 days and have dropped 4.8 lbs. I feel great and not hungry between meals. I have been tracking everything and it works out to about 1300-1400 calories per day, and I am finding the recipes tasty and easy to prepare. I think this diet will work well for me and help me to change the way I eat permanently. I have tried many other diets which also worked but they were not sustainable. I need a new way of eating to be sucessful long term and this diet looks like it will be the one that will help me long term.

    As for the Ninja blender/food processor, I have one which I bought at Costco (in Canada) for $160 in November. This blender/processor costs $250 at other stores and you can find it on sale for $200, so him offering it for $199 is fair for Canadians. I am sure people can find it for less in the USA. I absolutely love this Ninja so much that I bought my 2 kids each one and we all love it. I use it everyday.

    As for Dr Phil's credentials, I am not sure what degrees he holds but I love his show and that he does use experts to help people.

    Doctor Oz is a quack as far as I am concerned and will not watch him and hope that his show gets cancelled!

    Thanks for your perspective! I haven't been able to find previews of the book online, or find much information other than what I saw on the show that day. Glad to hear from someone who actually has the book in hand and has read it!
  • Suezyq47
    Suezyq47 Posts: 199 Member
    Suezyq47 wrote: »
    I love Dr Phil, I did buy the book and have started the 20/20 diet. The diet is based on simple foods that are cheap and no crazy supplements or weird food that you would not normally see in the grocery store. I have been on the diet for 3 days and have dropped 4.8 lbs. I feel great and not hungry between meals. I have been tracking everything and it works out to about 1300-1400 calories per day, and I am finding the recipes tasty and easy to prepare. I think this diet will work well for me and help me to change the way I eat permanently. I have tried many other diets which also worked but they were not sustainable. I need a new way of eating to be sucessful long term and this diet looks like it will be the one that will help me long term.

    As for the Ninja blender/food processor, I have one which I bought at Costco (in Canada) for $160 in November. This blender/processor costs $250 at other stores and you can find it on sale for $200, so him offering it for $199 is fair for Canadians. I am sure people can find it for less in the USA. I absolutely love this Ninja so much that I bought my 2 kids each one and we all love it. I use it everyday.

    As for Dr Phil's credentials, I am not sure what degrees he holds but I love his show and that he does use experts to help people.

    Doctor Oz is a quack as far as I am concerned and will not watch him and hope that his show gets cancelled!

    Thanks for your perspective! I haven't been able to find previews of the book online, or find much information other than what I saw on the show that day. Glad to hear from someone who actually has the book in hand and has read it!

    No Problem missintofitness:) I am on the 4 th day of the diet and still not hungry between meals. so far I like the food combinations and am looking forward to Phase 2 of the diet which starts after tomorrow. Phase 2 adds 5 more each of the breakfast combinations with more types of foods and 10 more of the lunch/dinner combinations. By the way I am down another 1.4 lbs today:)
  • Dnarules
    Dnarules Posts: 2,081 Member
    dbmata wrote: »
    He has a juris doctorate if I remember correctly, which means he's a lawyer and a pogue.

    He's always been an Oz style shill/quack.

    Thanks Oprah.

    He has a doctorate in psychology. He did legal consultations for jury selection, based on his psychology background. He is not a lawyer.

  • mykaylis
    mykaylis Posts: 320 Member
    yes, he is a doctor. he has a Ph.D in psychology. just like my friend has a PhD in english, he is Doctor Sinclair, PhD. both doctors, neither particularly qualified to write books on nutrition.

    but dr.phil is really entertaining. so is dr.oz. he's on my quack list right now.
  • Athijade
    Athijade Posts: 3,300 Member
    Dr. Phil... Dr. Oz. Cut from the same mold. They do everything for ratings, not for helping people. I wish they would both disappear.
  • Ishtancon
    Ishtancon Posts: 14 Member
    Dr. "Full Of It" in my opinion regardless of their credentials. They are showman /salesman.
  • rainbowbow
    rainbowbow Posts: 7,490 Member
    While i think he is a total crock monster the diet itself isn't necessarily HARMFUL therefore if someone wishes to waste their hard earned cash on it i am not oppposed.

    It's a meal plan based around eating fresh fruits, veggies, and lean meats. It addresses the psychological effects of weight loss and encourages people to make changes which they can stick to long term. It doesn't advocate any "diet" products, shakes, pills, etc.

    I believe it also has around 1500 calories daily. so, MEH.
  • Lourdesong
    Lourdesong Posts: 1,492 Member
    I recall he was really into fitness, owned (or managed?) gyms and was a PT or something. Also really into tennis.

    He's a big (very tall) man, but I don't think he's fat, he has always looked pretty fit to me.

    I used to be a regular watcher of the Dr. Phil show. Unlike Oprah and most talk show hosts, Dr Phil was ironically not a big "feelz" kind of guy. He didn't have much patience for the bs that people with evident problems like to dish out, and that was kind of refreshing.

    I recall one episode where his guest tried to justify himself through Christian theology and language, and Dr. Phil did a good job putting that manipulating bs-er in his place.

    He did many episodes either about weight specifically, or the subject of weight would come up with his guests, and he often called people out on their excuses or silly beliefs in respect to weight management. Dr. Phil wasn't a promoter of or a fan of woo, in my estimation.

    I stopped watching during some media fiasco with Britney Spears and he chased her down or was in contact with her family or something, back when she was being a nut, and I dunno, the whole thing was just kind of pathetic and clearly about trying to get ratings. He never got that "interview of a lifetime" to my knowledge. I lost a lot of respect for him over that.
    Regardless, I was a fan at one time, and my bet is that his book will likely be reasonable and boring (in that, there won't be anything new or much woo to speak of)

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