Alcohol - The Age Old Question
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I'll answer anyway. People ask for weight loss and health advice, I'm happy to help but I'm not going to worry about anyone as if they were a loved one. It may not be the right attitude but such is life.0somuchbetter0 wrote: »0somuchbetter0 wrote: »Hmm...ok then. I'd rather be duped by a troll than let someone destroy their health that way, but I hope you're right.
People destroy their lives every day. We can't save the world. At the end of the day we all make our own decisions and are held accountable for them.
LOL I'm not trying to save the world! Just pointing out some very dangerous behaviors to one individual from one post. I've seen threads go on for days about similar posts. Why the "none of my business" attitude all of a sudden? Rhetorical question...don't bother answering.
This. When you get involved here you are labled as a "meanie".
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I'll answer anyway. People ask for weight loss and health advice, I'm happy to help but I'm not going to worry about anyone as if they were a loved one. It may not be the right attitude but such is life.0somuchbetter0 wrote: »0somuchbetter0 wrote: »Hmm...ok then. I'd rather be duped by a troll than let someone destroy their health that way, but I hope you're right.
People destroy their lives every day. We can't save the world. At the end of the day we all make our own decisions and are held accountable for them.
LOL I'm not trying to save the world! Just pointing out some very dangerous behaviors to one individual from one post. I've seen threads go on for days about similar posts. Why the "none of my business" attitude all of a sudden? Rhetorical question...don't bother answering.
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Alcohol can't be stored by the body so all of it has to be metabolized before any other energy stores are tapped.
If one is drinking a good amount before going to sleep, don't expect a lot of fat loss since the highest rate of fat burn is when you're resting.
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Thank you for those who have provided helpful responses.
Interesting that alcohol gets broken down first and so could detract from breaking down food calories - if I have understood that correctly!
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I've been eating really healthy lately and then, BAM! Yesterday I found myself eating a chocolate bar and then chocolate pudding my husband brought home from the bakery and i'm not one for sweets! (Bread is my thing). It dawned on me this morning- I've not had a whiskey & coke in 5 days! I was a heavy drinker and was surprised I didn't miss it at all. But now obviously I have to watch the sugar cravings from cutting the soda out. If it's not one thing it's another! Good luck!0
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0somuchbetter0 wrote: »Yeah I'm wondering about this as well. In my case I try to limit myself to a pint of liquor when I drink (I drink 7 nights a week). I do log it into myfitnesspal. I am only alloted 1200 cals a day and 1 pint of liqour is 1000. So I work out to burned at least 600-1000 calories a day on the treadmill. Fitness pal displays this as an increase in calories I can have for the day. I only eat about 700 calories a day and and burn about 600-1000 then I drink 1000 in liqour. I've been losing weight but wondering if I'd be losing the same if I cut down or removed alcohol . I know I certainly won't have to work out 7 days a week anymore. Idk
A lot of this post is incorrect.
1. A pint of liquor. You're drinking a pint of liquor or a pint of beer? A pint of liquor (like vodka or whiskey) would be about 7 shots and that would be about 1000 calories...is that really what you're drinking 7 nights a week??? A pint of beer varies a lot, but you could estimate about 250 calories. If you're really drinking 1000 calories worth of alcohol every night, you have more serious health concerns than weight loss.
2. Why are you only allotted 1200 calories a day? If you're using MFP to calculate it and you told it that you want to lose 2 lbs a week, it's going to tell you 1200 pretty much no matter what. This is not a good or accurate estimate. Look at this instead: scoobysworkshop.com/calorie-calculator/
3. I'm guessing you don't burn 600-1000 calories a day on the treadmill, unless you're either very tall and large and/or spending multiple hours a day on the treadmill. If MFP gave you 1200 calories a day, I'm guessing you're a smallish female and working out hard you're probably burning about 400-500 calories per hour.
4. You need to eat a lot more than 700 calories per day no matter what your size or how much weight you're trying to lose. You can't get the nutrients on 700 calories that your body needs to function, not to mention your long, hard workouts, plus poisoning your liver every night.
If all of this is true (and I don't think it is), you're definitely headed for an early grave.
Well I am 190lbs and 5'8" 25. I'm not really active anymore since having a desk job. I spend 60-80mins on treadmill at 15incline walking 3.5mph-3.8 then run on and off for 30sec every 20min interval. I'm former college athlete so I'm used to rigorous workout. I used to do just 30-40mins but now that's just too easy for me.
Yes a pint of liquor. I also juice a cup of grapefruit to go along with that. I know I know, a girl shouldn't have that much of a hollow leg but I enjoy having some drinks at the end of the day.
For breakfast I have a green juice made with my juicer and take multi vitamins. Lunch usually black eyed peas and ham or a homemade sandwich. And for dinner usually a lean cuisine or another sandwich with a side of veggies. I'm not big on snacking but if I do I have sliced fruit. All in all my food intake in pretty clean and steady.
I gained about 35-40lbs since I became inactive. Since I started working out again my weight is starting to go back down of course I stopped eating out all the time. Chinese food, pizza and chilli dogs were the other problems.0 -
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0somuchbetter0 wrote: »Yeah I'm wondering about this as well. In my case I try to limit myself to a pint of liquor when I drink (I drink 7 nights a week). I do log it into myfitnesspal. I am only alloted 1200 cals a day and 1 pint of liqour is 1000. So I work out to burned at least 600-1000 calories a day on the treadmill. Fitness pal displays this as an increase in calories I can have for the day. I only eat about 700 calories a day and and burn about 600-1000 then I drink 1000 in liqour. I've been losing weight but wondering if I'd be losing the same if I cut down or removed alcohol . I know I certainly won't have to work out 7 days a week anymore. Idk
A lot of this post is incorrect.
1. A pint of liquor. You're drinking a pint of liquor or a pint of beer? A pint of liquor (like vodka or whiskey) would be about 7 shots and that would be about 1000 calories...is that really what you're drinking 7 nights a week??? A pint of beer varies a lot, but you could estimate about 250 calories. If you're really drinking 1000 calories worth of alcohol every night, you have more serious health concerns than weight loss.
2. Why are you only allotted 1200 calories a day? If you're using MFP to calculate it and you told it that you want to lose 2 lbs a week, it's going to tell you 1200 pretty much no matter what. This is not a good or accurate estimate. Look at this instead: scoobysworkshop.com/calorie-calculator/
3. I'm guessing you don't burn 600-1000 calories a day on the treadmill, unless you're either very tall and large and/or spending multiple hours a day on the treadmill. If MFP gave you 1200 calories a day, I'm guessing you're a smallish female and working out hard you're probably burning about 400-500 calories per hour.
4. You need to eat a lot more than 700 calories per day no matter what your size or how much weight you're trying to lose. You can't get the nutrients on 700 calories that your body needs to function, not to mention your long, hard workouts, plus poisoning your liver every night.
If all of this is true (and I don't think it is), you're definitely headed for an early grave.
Well I am 190lbs and 5'8" 25. I'm not really active anymore since having a desk job. I spend 60-80mins on treadmill at 15incline walking 3.5mph-3.8 then run on and off for 30sec every 20min interval. I'm former college athlete so I'm used to rigorous workout. I used to do just 30-40mins but now that's just too easy for me.
Yes a pint of liquor. I also juice a cup of grapefruit to go along with that. I know I know, a girl shouldn't have that much of a hollow leg but I enjoy having some drinks at the end of the day.
For breakfast I have a green juice made with my juicer and take multi vitamins. Lunch usually black eyed peas and ham or a homemade sandwich. And for dinner usually a lean cuisine or another sandwich with a side of veggies. I'm not big on snacking but if I do I have sliced fruit. All in all my food intake in pretty clean and steady.
I gained about 35-40lbs since I became inactive. Since I started working out again my weight is starting to go back down of course I stopped eating out all the time. Chinese food, pizza and chilli dogs were the other problems.
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IowaJen1979 wrote: »@0somuchbetter0 - it's probably a troll.
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So your thoughts are that it doesn't matter what you eat that if you drink that your doomed either way for becoming over weight an unhealthy? Then what is this forum even for? Let's just leave out the point that I do drink. Would that be more socially acceptable for you?
Instead of being honest about what I consume daily maybe I'll just say "I don't know why I'm not losing that much weight I only eat healthy foods and workout in treadmill everyday"0 -
0somuchbetter0 wrote: »Yeah I'm wondering about this as well. In my case I try to limit myself to a pint of liquor when I drink (I drink 7 nights a week). I do log it into myfitnesspal. I am only alloted 1200 cals a day and 1 pint of liqour is 1000. So I work out to burned at least 600-1000 calories a day on the treadmill. Fitness pal displays this as an increase in calories I can have for the day. I only eat about 700 calories a day and and burn about 600-1000 then I drink 1000 in liqour. I've been losing weight but wondering if I'd be losing the same if I cut down or removed alcohol . I know I certainly won't have to work out 7 days a week anymore. Idk
A lot of this post is incorrect.
1. A pint of liquor. You're drinking a pint of liquor or a pint of beer? A pint of liquor (like vodka or whiskey) would be about 7 shots and that would be about 1000 calories...is that really what you're drinking 7 nights a week??? A pint of beer varies a lot, but you could estimate about 250 calories. If you're really drinking 1000 calories worth of alcohol every night, you have more serious health concerns than weight loss.
2. Why are you only allotted 1200 calories a day? If you're using MFP to calculate it and you told it that you want to lose 2 lbs a week, it's going to tell you 1200 pretty much no matter what. This is not a good or accurate estimate. Look at this instead: scoobysworkshop.com/calorie-calculator/
3. I'm guessing you don't burn 600-1000 calories a day on the treadmill, unless you're either very tall and large and/or spending multiple hours a day on the treadmill. If MFP gave you 1200 calories a day, I'm guessing you're a smallish female and working out hard you're probably burning about 400-500 calories per hour.
4. You need to eat a lot more than 700 calories per day no matter what your size or how much weight you're trying to lose. You can't get the nutrients on 700 calories that your body needs to function, not to mention your long, hard workouts, plus poisoning your liver every night.
If all of this is true (and I don't think it is), you're definitely headed for an early grave.
Well I am 190lbs and 5'8" 25. I'm not really active anymore since having a desk job. I spend 60-80mins on treadmill at 15incline walking 3.5mph-3.8 then run on and off for 30sec every 20min interval. I'm former college athlete so I'm used to rigorous workout. I used to do just 30-40mins but now that's just too easy for me.
Yes a pint of liquor. I also juice a cup of grapefruit to go along with that. I know I know, a girl shouldn't have that much of a hollow leg but I enjoy having some drinks at the end of the day.
For breakfast I have a green juice made with my juicer and take multi vitamins. Lunch usually black eyed peas and ham or a homemade sandwich. And for dinner usually a lean cuisine or another sandwich with a side of veggies. I'm not big on snacking but if I do I have sliced fruit. All in all my food intake in pretty clean and steady.
I gained about 35-40lbs since I became inactive. Since I started working out again my weight is starting to go back down of course I stopped eating out all the time. Chinese food, pizza and chilli dogs were the other problems.
Strong disagree!!
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harrietlong24 wrote: »So, as a family we generally drink with every meal. There is always a bottle of wine on the table and often we will have a spirit/mixer before aswell.
As you can imagine/work out for yourself that then totals alot! So my question is has anyone who drank quite alot and then cut it out totally found that they lose quite alot of weight quite rapidly? I suppose in my mind I equate it to if you ate junk food every day and then totally cut that out?
Thanks
Alcohol is nothing more than a legal drug. It is not good for you at all! I know the rebuttal to this is "a glass of wine a day..." Just have some blueberries instead as alcohol also lowers your testosterone production for 24-48 hours.
As for the "rapid weight loss" question... no it takes time to lose fat any weight loss that you see rapidly would be your body losing water. Rapid weight loss is also unhealthy.
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If you are drinking 16oz of hard liquor a day, you have a very serious problem. Period.0
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So your thoughts are that it doesn't matter what you eat that if you drink that your doomed either way for becoming over weight an unhealthy? Then what is this forum even for? Let's just leave out the point that I do drink. Would that be more socially acceptable for you?
Instead of being honest about what I consume daily maybe I'll just say "I don't know why I'm not losing that much weight I only eat healthy foods and workout in treadmill everyday"
No, read my post again. You need more than 700 calories of food a day for your body to function, especially with your long workouts and the way you abuse alcohol. A pint of hard liquor every day of the week is not "just a few drinks." Keep up that pace of drinking and your brain, heart, and liver will suffer irreversible damage and it won't matter if you're skinny because you'll be dead.0 -
harrietlong24 wrote: »So...my question is has anyone who drank quite alot and then cut it out totally found that they lose quite alot of weight quite rapidly? I suppose in my mind I equate it to if you ate junk food every day and then totally cut that out?
Thanks
Let me say this - I love a good drink. When I started MFP I had no intention of abstaining from alcohol.
What happened was this – I had a lot of weight to lose (close to 170-200 pounds). I knew it would take over one year. My personal belief is that weight-loss is largely dependent upon calories in – calories out. A crash diet was NOT a consideration…only a low-calorie healthy one.
The first item was determining what my calorie intake would need to be at a minimum and then backed into those numbers (like a bank withdrawal). I knew the importance of proper nutrition. I never told myself I couldn’t have that cake, beer, potato chip etc., I logically knew that I would be hurting myself if I was to drink alcohol & eat junk food AND also try to stay real low-calorie.
Here is a sample of just 3 actual meals I prepare on a regular basis. These are all 250 calories or less. I do eat over 250 calories at some meals – but have an arsenal of these at my fingertips.
Over the course of the last year, I have had a couple glasses of wine on vacation and ate pizza at a post-funeral get together (note: I never said pizza, wine etc. was super bad – I “chose” not to have those as a nutrient base for my low-calorie intake.
Lots of people that have diaries that indicate 1800-2000 calorie intake of which 500 calories is beer, Daiquiri etc. If that works for someone – fine! For me... I choose not to have those calories.
Wish you the best.
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A pint of liquor is impressive. I know people who do that, and lose weight - but they're also bulimic and/or too drunk to bother eating. Too bad MFP doesn't calculate calories earned by upchucking.
Da-dang.
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0somuchbetter0 wrote: »So your thoughts are that it doesn't matter what you eat that if you drink that your doomed either way for becoming over weight an unhealthy? Then what is this forum even for? Let's just leave out the point that I do drink. Would that be more socially acceptable for you?
Instead of being honest about what I consume daily maybe I'll just say "I don't know why I'm not losing that much weight I only eat healthy foods and workout in treadmill everyday"
No, read my post again. You need more than 700 calories of food a day for your body to function, especially with your long workouts and the way you abuse alcohol. A pint of hard liquor every day of the week is not "just a few drinks." Keep up that pace of drinking and your brain, heart, and liver will suffer irreversible damage and it won't matter if you're skinny because you'll be dead.
Yeah, so... Back to the post. If you do drink as long as you acount for it you can still lose weight. Of course it easy if you cut it out all together as long as you do t pick up other calories with a bad habit/treat.
Not saying that drinking is a good thing but the when point is a lifestyle. Where your going to Chang e your whole lifestyle or incorporate things one at a time to achieve your goal. Thanks for everyone jumping on me. But I am incorporating a healthy lifestyle. I don't intended to be in the same place a year from now. Girls ae so judgmental its rediculous.0 -
0somuchbetter0 wrote: »Is anyone else concerned about @dezz651's weight loss plan?
i read it and thought she is going to kill herself with that plan.0 -
A thousand calories of straight booze a day? Man, you better get on the liver transplant list.0
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Meh, you can drink 1000 calories a day in liquor a day at 25. I probably was averaging higher than that in undergrad for a few years. But you can't do that and stay at 1200 calories a day. You just arent gonna hit your macros. At some point you have to choose between that lifestyle and losing weight. No judgement, just math.0
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I'm cutting wine out for the month of January. I love sweet, red wine and there's a lot of carbs !0
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0somuchbetter0 wrote: »So your thoughts are that it doesn't matter what you eat that if you drink that your doomed either way for becoming over weight an unhealthy? Then what is this forum even for? Let's just leave out the point that I do drink. Would that be more socially acceptable for you?
Instead of being honest about what I consume daily maybe I'll just say "I don't know why I'm not losing that much weight I only eat healthy foods and workout in treadmill everyday"
No, read my post again. You need more than 700 calories of food a day for your body to function, especially with your long workouts and the way you abuse alcohol. A pint of hard liquor every day of the week is not "just a few drinks." Keep up that pace of drinking and your brain, heart, and liver will suffer irreversible damage and it won't matter if you're skinny because you'll be dead.
Yeah, so... Back to the post. If you do drink as long as you acount for it you can still lose weight. Of course it easy if you cut it out all together as long as you do t pick up other calories with a bad habit/treat.
Not saying that drinking is a good thing but the when point is a lifestyle. Where your going to Chang e your whole lifestyle or incorporate things one at a time to achieve your goal. Thanks for everyone jumping on me. But I am incorporating a healthy lifestyle. I don't intended to be in the same place a year from now. Girls ae so judgmental its rediculous.
It's not about being judgmental. You're just killing yourself, plain and simple. No one can survive long term on 700 cals of food and 1000 cals of alcohol per day. To call that a ""healthy lifestyle" is just stupid.0 -
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I appreciate weight doesn't drop off with food. But people have said that when they out right cut out alcohol they do see a big difference fairly quickly - as in within a month or so. I just wondered whether people had experienced that on here, purely so i am not disheartened of I don't see a big difference straight away.0
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I use do have a beer most days after work. Sometime two. I simply enjoyed sitting in the garden after work, with a nice cold beer. I don't think there's anything wrong with that. My parents drink wine with every dinner or beer with every dinner, just like my grandparents etc.
Unfortunately, I gained about 10lbs because of that
In order to loose weight I have to cut down on drinking though. When I drink, I log it.0
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