What's the deal with the obsession of sweets?
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Don't forget the potato chips one. I was smh all over the place.ILiftHeavyAcrylics wrote: »The use of the word addicted for me is used light heartedly. Like saying to my friends, "I ate the whole bags of M&M's today, so I may be addicted to M&M's". No one would ever think I had a true addiction to M&M's.
I think most people have a sweet tooth or even a "salty" craving. I actually have both, and I allow each day something sweet or salty depending on the day. Sometimes I have something sweet and need something salty or vice versa.
I do over use the word addiction.. I do not take it literally when someone says I am addicted to sugar..I just take it they really like sugary food like I do..
I think a lot of people use the word addiction like you do, but there are plenty of other people who believe and state that sugar is as addictive as hard drugs.
seems like every thread on here lately ..is "help I am addicted to coffee, or sugar, or pizza, or peanut butter…" #annoying
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Don't forget the potato chips one. I was smh all over the place.ILiftHeavyAcrylics wrote: »The use of the word addicted for me is used light heartedly. Like saying to my friends, "I ate the whole bags of M&M's today, so I may be addicted to M&M's". No one would ever think I had a true addiction to M&M's.
I think most people have a sweet tooth or even a "salty" craving. I actually have both, and I allow each day something sweet or salty depending on the day. Sometimes I have something sweet and need something salty or vice versa.
I do over use the word addiction.. I do not take it literally when someone says I am addicted to sugar..I just take it they really like sugary food like I do..
I think a lot of people use the word addiction like you do, but there are plenty of other people who believe and state that sugar is as addictive as hard drugs.
seems like every thread on here lately ..is "help I am addicted to coffee, or sugar, or pizza, or peanut butter…" #annoying
I must have missed that one….0 -
sheepotato wrote: »Not shouting the thread down, just asking what points she is trying to make because its very difficult to see. Feel free to tell us.
I think on page two she said obesity is tied to a positive perception of sweets and desserts or something like that….
which totally ignores the people that get obese eating pizza, popcorn, burgers, sausage, etc...
Or beer, many people have gotten fat off liquid calories. When people give up liquid calories (beer or soda usually) and make posts about having trouble eating enough they get responses like 'keep eating what made you fat, just less of it.'
isn't that the pint of weight loss…eat less of what you were previously eating, so that you can enjoy the foods that you like and lose weight?
The point of weight loss for me is to be heathier (I started out morbidly obese). There would be no point in continuing to eat in a way that is unbalanced, or that creates cravings that would make it hard for me to stick to my calorie goals. Along the way I'm learning about healthier eating. Dieting is learning good habits and making a lifestyle change for some.
Were you making a pun - i.e. one is having a pint of weight loss instead of a quart of food?0 -
sheepotato wrote: »Not shouting the thread down, just asking what points she is trying to make because its very difficult to see. Feel free to tell us.
I think on page two she said obesity is tied to a positive perception of sweets and desserts or something like that….
which totally ignores the people that get obese eating pizza, popcorn, burgers, sausage, etc...
Or beer, many people have gotten fat off liquid calories. When people give up liquid calories (beer or soda usually) and make posts about having trouble eating enough they get responses like 'keep eating what made you fat, just less of it.'
isn't that the pint of weight loss…eat less of what you were previously eating, so that you can enjoy the foods that you like and lose weight?
The point of weight loss for me is to be heathier (I started out morbidly obese). There would be no point in continuing to eat in a way that is unbalanced, or that creates cravings that would make it hard for me to stick to my calorie goals. Along the way I'm learning about healthier eating. Dieting is learning good habits and making a lifestyle change for some.
Were you making a pun - i.e. one is having a pint of weight loss instead of a quart of food?
sigh, you again …
I meant point…
Look, I get it you think foods are "bad" sugar is "evil" and you restrict …so just keep on doing it and knock yourself out…
Losting weight will lead to improved health.
there is nothing wrong with eating bagels, pizza, ice cream, cookie,s etc and incorporating them into a diet. One can do that and still be healthy. The implication that just because someone eats food on the "bad food" list is disingenuous....-2 -
sheepotato wrote: »Not shouting the thread down, just asking what points she is trying to make because its very difficult to see. Feel free to tell us.
I think on page two she said obesity is tied to a positive perception of sweets and desserts or something like that….
which totally ignores the people that get obese eating pizza, popcorn, burgers, sausage, etc...
Or beer, many people have gotten fat off liquid calories. When people give up liquid calories (beer or soda usually) and make posts about having trouble eating enough they get responses like 'keep eating what made you fat, just less of it.'
isn't that the pint of weight loss…eat less of what you were previously eating, so that you can enjoy the foods that you like and lose weight?
The point of weight loss for me is to be heathier (I started out morbidly obese). There would be no point in continuing to eat in a way that is unbalanced, or that creates cravings that would make it hard for me to stick to my calorie goals. Along the way I'm learning about healthier eating. Dieting is learning good habits and making a lifestyle change for some.
Were you making a pun - i.e. one is having a pint of weight loss instead of a quart of food?
sigh, you again …
I meant point…
Look, I get it you think foods are "bad" sugar is "evil" and you restrict …so just keep on doing it and knock yourself out…
Losting weight will lead to improved health.
there is nothing wrong with eating bagels, pizza, ice cream, cookie,s etc and incorporating them into a diet. One can do that and still be healthy. The implication that just because someone eats food on the "bad food" list is disingenuous....
Sometimes continuing how one has eaten before the diet is unhealthy - not all overweight people have been getting enough of certain micros, or protein. Dieting can lead to changes in eating that will result in better health, more energy, easier gains etc. Also, some people are triggered into binges, or end up eating more than they intended, by specific foods. Or that they feel better when some foods are eliminated (discover food intolerances). During the diet, they may learn what foods interact badly with them, and then chose to avoid them.0 -
ALWAYS love sweets!0
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Sugar does not make us fat, an over-consumption of food in general does.fearlesslove wrote: »I'm saying I believe at least part of America's obesity problem has to do with the ridiculously positive perception of desserts and sweets, especially by women.
I'm a sugar addict. If I didn't love sweets so much I'd probably be skinny mini but I struggle with my sugar addiction. I love sweets and it has NOTHING to do with how I perceive sweets or how the sweets are represented in media/stores/etc. Sugar is addictive and for some people (like myself) it is difficult not to overindulge.
I'm currently on my 4th day straight of no sugary snacks or treats other than fruit...and I feel like I have a sugar monkey on my back!
You may categorize yourself as a sugar addict, but sugar is no more addictive than fruits, vegetables, or meats.
Why not just portion the sweets to yourself?
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I think the reality is that sugar cravings exist and are a problem for a lot of people on this forum. Whether it is an addiction is debatable and has been debated at length without a resolution.
Fact remains, the obsession with sugar needs to be addressed and for those who are sick of hearing about it please allow those who have this problem a chance to voice their concerns and solve their dilemma at their own pace. They will find their solution in their own time during the discussion and the fact that this is according to Kruggeri "the 10th sugar is addictive thread" only emphasis the need for discussion.
Blatantly trying to shut the thread down will only result in 10 more springing up. Let it run its course. What is the harm??
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I read somewhere that humans evolved to prefer sweets because it was a quick energy source i.e. fruit in the primal days. Or some *kitten* to that effect.0
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I think the reality is that sugar cravings exist and are a problem for a lot of people on this forum. Whether it is an addiction is debatable and has been debated at length without a resolution.
Fact remains, the obsession with sugar needs to be addressed and for those who are sick of hearing about it please allow those who have this problem a chance to voice their concerns and solve their dilemma at their own pace. They will find their solution in their own time during the discussion and the fact that this is according to Kruggeri "the 10th sugar is addictive thread" only emphasis the need for discussion.
Blatantly trying to shut the thread down will only result in 10 more springing up. Let it run its course. What is the harm??
What?
wut?
You forget the pseudoscientist snoop froggy frog.0 -
Sweets are awesome! But in moderation. And there are people that find that they can have a sweet if it is within their allowances.
When training for a marathon, I treated myself with ice cream all the time. Sometimes I would treat myself with a cupcake. When I actually did the marathon, my aunt made me a cake lol. ( But when you're allowed 3500 calories for the day, a piece of cake isn't really that much )
I think some people who have binge eating problems gravitate towards sweets because they are easy to get down and are comforting.0 -
I guess it depends on people's tastes? I don't really binge on salty things, except bread (but it has to be good bread, and typically, sweet bread like brioche, challah etc). But I love sweets.
Same here. Bread rather than sweets has been my go to. Bread would accompany most meals (somewhat common among Maori and Pasifika families) and it's still something I have to fight against.
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Measure your food @kyta32, measure your food.
I don't wanna. When I started weighing my yogurt, I found out I wasn't eating enough. So then I put in more, and the bowl was too full, and stuff would spill out when I tried to mix in my protein powder. It's easier just to eyeball. And besides, I'm losing 3-4 pounds a week. I heard measuring food leads to faster weight loss, and I don't think that would be safe....0 -
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Measure your food @kyta32, measure your food.
I don't wanna. When I started weighing my yogurt, I found out I wasn't eating enough. So then I put in more, and the bowl was too full, and stuff would spill out when I tried to mix in my protein powder. It's easier just to eyeball. And besides, I'm losing 3-4 pounds a week. I heard measuring food leads to faster weight loss, and I don't think that would be safe....
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Measure your food @kyta32, measure your food.
I don't wanna. When I started weighing my yogurt, I found out I wasn't eating enough. So then I put in more, and the bowl was too full, and stuff would spill out when I tried to mix in my protein powder. It's easier just to eyeball. And besides, I'm losing 3-4 pounds a week. I heard measuring food leads to faster weight loss, and I don't think that would be safe....
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Snoop foggy fro-a-a-a-og.I think the reality is that sugar cravings exist and are a problem for a lot of people on this forum. Whether it is an addiction is debatable and has been debated at length without a resolution.
Fact remains, the obsession with sugar needs to be addressed and for those who are sick of hearing about it please allow those who have this problem a chance to voice their concerns and solve their dilemma at their own pace. They will find their solution in their own time during the discussion and the fact that this is according to Kruggeri "the 10th sugar is addictive thread" only emphasis the need for discussion.
Blatantly trying to shut the thread down will only result in 10 more springing up. Let it run its course. What is the harm??
What?
wut?
You forget the pseudoscientist snoop froggy frog.
leap leap leap yip i o yip i eah...0 -
Measure your food @kyta32, measure your food.
I don't wanna. When I started weighing my yogurt, I found out I wasn't eating enough. So then I put in more, and the bowl was too full, and stuff would spill out when I tried to mix in my protein powder. It's easier just to eyeball. And besides, I'm losing 3-4 pounds a week. I heard measuring food leads to faster weight loss, and I don't think that would be safe....
If you are losing 3 to 4 pounds a week, and you have...what....40 some odd left to lose, you are clearly not eating enough.
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I think the reality is that sugar cravings exist and are a problem for a lot of people on this forum. Whether it is an addiction is debatable and has been debated at length without a resolution.
Fact remains, the obsession with sugar needs to be addressed and for those who are sick of hearing about it please allow those who have this problem a chance to voice their concerns and solve their dilemma at their own pace. They will find their solution in their own time during the discussion and the fact that this is according to Kruggeri "the 10th sugar is addictive thread" only emphasis the need for discussion.
Blatantly trying to shut the thread down will only result in 10 more springing up. Let it run its course. What is the harm??
What?
wut?
You forget the pseudoscientist snoop froggy frog.
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Measure your food @kyta32, measure your food.
I don't wanna. When I started weighing my yogurt, I found out I wasn't eating enough. So then I put in more, and the bowl was too full, and stuff would spill out when I tried to mix in my protein powder. It's easier just to eyeball. And besides, I'm losing 3-4 pounds a week. I heard measuring food leads to faster weight loss, and I don't think that would be safe....
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Measuring is haaaaard...heehee0 -
Measure your food @kyta32, measure your food.
I don't wanna. When I started weighing my yogurt, I found out I wasn't eating enough. So then I put in more, and the bowl was too full, and stuff would spill out when I tried to mix in my protein powder. It's easier just to eyeball. And besides, I'm losing 3-4 pounds a week. I heard measuring food leads to faster weight loss, and I don't think that would be safe....
If you are losing 3 to 4 pounds a week, and you have...what....40 some odd left to lose, you are clearly not eating enough.
Mmmm 47 pounds but...I didn't know how to measure my elbow so...Maybe I'm supposed to go down to 126 (61 pounds to go)? I don't know. It seems kinda low to me...I have good memories at 140, but none at 126, and it's too close to the nighmare of 116....Ima chicken so I'm waiting to see what 140 looks like before I reset my goal.
I`m not trying to lose 3-4 pounds a week, it`s just happening. MFP is set for 700 calorie deficit, 1.6 lbs/wk, and you're not supposed to eat back exercise calories, right? I've only just gone from obese to overweight, so the weight loss will slow on it's own. I've read that lot of weight loss programs stall out at 6 mths, and I'm about to start my 8th month, so I'm probably going to plateau soon.0 -
Yes you are supposed to eat back exercise calories, even if it's only a portion, to properly fuel your body.Measure your food @kyta32, measure your food.
I don't wanna. When I started weighing my yogurt, I found out I wasn't eating enough. So then I put in more, and the bowl was too full, and stuff would spill out when I tried to mix in my protein powder. It's easier just to eyeball. And besides, I'm losing 3-4 pounds a week. I heard measuring food leads to faster weight loss, and I don't think that would be safe....
If you are losing 3 to 4 pounds a week, and you have...what....40 some odd left to lose, you are clearly not eating enough.
Mmmm 47 pounds but...I didn't know how to measure my elbow so...Maybe I'm supposed to go down to 126 (61 pounds to go)? I don't know. It seems kinda low to me...I have good memories at 140, but none at 126, and it's too close to the nighmare of 116....Ima chicken so I'm waiting to see what 140 looks like before I reset my goal.
I`m not trying to lose 3-4 pounds a week, it`s just happening. MFP is set for 700 calorie deficit, 1.6 lbs/wk, and you're not supposed to eat back exercise calories, right? I've only just gone from obese to overweight, so the weight loss will slow on it's own. I've read that lot of weight loss programs stall out at 6 mths, and I'm about to start my 8th month, so I'm probably going to plateau soon.
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It's not that difficult to have a diet, whether healthy or not, almost entirely consist of savory foods.
Fruit was "dessert" not too many ages ago.
I think why people get excited about sweets is probably because they are a change of pace from the same ol' same ol' savory whatnots that make up the majority of a diet. They're also quite often delicious and typically calorie dense and even more typically, associated with being fun/sinful/indulgent/etc because of their nutrition profile and that they tend to be reserved for special times and places.
Fat people get judged for eating sweets (donuts, cakes, cookies, etc), they get judged eating carrot sticks and celery. They get judged no matter what by jerks.(which includes those thin people who won't order a burger for fear of being associated with a fat person)
You apparently have not watched any Hardee's/Carl's junior commercials. It's apparently very hot and bordering on a pornographic experience for men to see thin blonde women "go down on" fat-laden burgers that are larger than their heads.
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I love sweets. I blame my mother for breastfeeding me. Human breast milk is very high in lactose (sugar).
No, I don't really blame her
Sweets are delicious. Instinctively, I would always prefer and choose a plate with say cheesecake and not one full of meat. Now I will eat meat over sweets because I know it is better for me. 0 -
Okay, I have to jump in because of my username.
I also use the term in a lighthearted manner and most people I know do. It's not fair to compare a sugar "addiction" to a hard drug addiction, particularly illegal drugs, so there's no need to take things out of context just to make a point. MRIs have shown our brains do seem to light with sugar spikes, and even Mayo Clinic has looked into whether sugar "addiction" is real: http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/ending-addiction-good/201401/sugar-addiction-it-may-be-very-real
Anywho, back on-topic with the OP. I agree there does seem to be some sort of stereotype around women and sweets and men and fats (and beer). But the poster that said fat people face looks all the time is more accurate. You see a skinny person down a burger and a milkshake and no one bats an eye because "they need to eat more." You see a fat person do the same and it's judgement time. Not saying it's right, just how it is.0 -
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Also, LOL Lustig.
lustig is a German word that means funny or amusing. Get your head out of the gutter.
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