Paleo: Worst diet?
sklarbodds
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Interesting...the panel of 20 health experts ranked the 35 most popular diets and paleo came in last.
Thoughts?
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Thoughts?
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It is a diet that continues to evolve.........
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Interesting. I am testing out a pseudo - paleo diet right now. I add in pseudo grains, as I am a long distance runner and still need a fair amount of carbs. I've worked with a nutritionist and developed a plan that closely mimics the paleo concepts. Lots of fresh veggies and fruits, quality meat and no dairy. I don't find it hard to follow. I"m sure there are studies and opinions that can dispute every diet. I know I lost most of my weight following WW. However, doing so, I developed some really poor habits and relationship with food. It became about getting the most volume for the least amount of points, and I was eating a ton of processed stuff. It took me a long time to recover from what workouts I was doing at the time, I lacked energy, I had acne, and my hair and nails were brittle and weak.
Thanks for sharing the link! It's always good to read more and try to expand our box of thinking!0 -
*shrugs* I can't find out the experts' credentials and who funded the study.
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It's a crappy list anyways but no doubt the paleo diet is a fad diet0
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NoelFigart1 wrote: »*shrugs* I can't find out the experts' credentials and who funded the study.
Follow the links and you find this list of those experts http://health.usnews.com/best-diet/experts
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they ranked the most popular diets, not the most effective ones. its probably the least popular because it avoids things like baked goods, sweets, and the healthier alternatives.0
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in....to see were this goes...
and is it really that surprising that a 'diet' based on caveman has not evolved...???0 -
tkillion810 wrote: »Interesting. I am testing out a pseudo - paleo diet right now. I add in pseudo grains, as I am a long distance runner and still need a fair amount of carbs. I've worked with a nutritionist and developed a plan that closely mimics the paleo concepts. Lots of fresh veggies and fruits, quality meat and no dairy. I don't find it hard to follow. I"m sure there are studies and opinions that can dispute every diet. I know I lost most of my weight following WW. However, doing so, I developed some really poor habits and relationship with food. It became about getting the most volume for the least amount of points, and I was eating a ton of processed stuff. It took me a long time to recover from what workouts I was doing at the time, I lacked energy, I had acne, and my hair and nails were brittle and weak.
Thanks for sharing the link! It's always good to read more and try to expand our box of thinking!
if you are eating grains it is not paleo ..
and LOL at pseudo paleo....but I guess that makes sense since paleo is pseudo science...
why don't you just eat a regular diet with carbs then ..????0 -
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tkillion810 wrote: »Interesting. I am testing out a pseudo - paleo diet right now. I add in pseudo grains, as I am a long distance runner and still need a fair amount of carbs. I've worked with a nutritionist and developed a plan that closely mimics the paleo concepts. Lots of fresh veggies and fruits, quality meat and no dairy. I don't find it hard to follow. I"m sure there are studies and opinions that can dispute every diet. I know I lost most of my weight following WW. However, doing so, I developed some really poor habits and relationship with food. It became about getting the most volume for the least amount of points, and I was eating a ton of processed stuff. It took me a long time to recover from what workouts I was doing at the time, I lacked energy, I had acne, and my hair and nails were brittle and weak.
Thanks for sharing the link! It's always good to read more and try to expand our box of thinking!
What are pseudo grains?0 -
I don't really get the Paleo diet. First of all, it's supposed to be copying the diet of the Paleolithic era. It's emulating what people ate back then, and what they had available. My issue is that our lifestyle is nothing similar to what it was back then. We don't spend hours every day gathering our food, we don't run 30 miles, chasing and animal, and then waiting it out for days sometimes, to then have a big feast (mostly meat), which has to supply our bodies with enough energy for the upcoming weeks, because for that time, it's back to foraging and eating nuts and plants.
We sit on our butts working or in the car for hours every day. Even those who run 10 + miles a day, it's just not the same as it was back then.
So for me, this diet makes no sense.0 -
NoelFigart1 wrote: »*shrugs* I can't find out the experts' credentials and who funded the study.
It's not a study. It's an opinion poll of nutrition 'experts'. It's done every year.
http://health.usnews.com/best-diet0 -
Marianna93637 wrote: »I don't really get the Paleo diet. First of all, it's supposed to be copying the diet of the Paleolithic era. It's emulating what people ate back then, and what they had available. My issue is that our lifestyle is nothing similar to what it was back then. We don't spend hours every day gathering our food, we don't run 30 miles, chasing and animal, and then waiting it out for days sometimes, to then have a big feast (mostly meat), which has to supply our bodies with enough energy for the upcoming weeks, because for that time, it's back to foraging and eating nuts and plants.
We sit on our butts working or in the car for hours every day. Even those who run 10 + miles a day, it's just not the same as it was back then.
So for me, this diet makes no sense.
well apparently the caveman style of life and eating is far to superior than anything we can hope for in 2015....0 -
*yawns*0
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They ranked them by effectiveness and nutritional value. They selected the most popular diets to be a part of the study.they ranked the most popular diets, not the most effective ones. its probably the least popular because it avoids things like baked goods, sweets, and the healthier alternatives.
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They tell you why...They also took issue with the more popular Paleo diet on each of the criteria evaluated. It scored lowest in the long-term weight loss category and is considered “extremely” difficult to follow.
The panel praised Paleo's emphasis on veggies and lean meat but disapproved of cutting out dairy and grain completely. One panelist said, “The risk of nutrient deficiency is real, unless the person takes a multivitamin.”
If you're doing true paleo, it's pretty difficult for most people to stick to...it's very restrictive and I could easily see how people could/would miss out on certain nutrients.
Plus, why are beans the devil?0 -
cwolfman13 wrote: »They tell you why...They also took issue with the more popular Paleo diet on each of the criteria evaluated. It scored lowest in the long-term weight loss category and is considered “extremely” difficult to follow.
The panel praised Paleo's emphasis on veggies and lean meat but disapproved of cutting out dairy and grain completely. One panelist said, “The risk of nutrient deficiency is real, unless the person takes a multivitamin.”
If you're doing true paleo, it's pretty difficult for most people to stick to...it's very restrictive and I could easily see how people could/would miss out on certain nutrients.
Plus, why are beans the devil?[/quote]
because gas?0 -
double postcwolfman13 wrote: »They tell you why...They also took issue with the more popular Paleo diet on each of the criteria evaluated. It scored lowest in the long-term weight loss category and is considered “extremely” difficult to follow.
The panel praised Paleo's emphasis on veggies and lean meat but disapproved of cutting out dairy and grain completely. One panelist said, “The risk of nutrient deficiency is real, unless the person takes a multivitamin.”
If you're doing true paleo, it's pretty difficult for most people to stick to...it's very restrictive and I could easily see how people could/would miss out on certain nutrients.
Plus, why are beans the devil?[/0 -
My son and daughter in law became very devoted to the paleo diet.. even gave a book on it for Christmas about 4 yrs ago... they are also heavily into CROSS FIT. They work out daily and teach it.
Daughter in law became preg and the doc told them they must change their diet if she wanted a healthy baby and to ease up on cross fit. ..
They have switched to what is called the CLEAN EATING DIET.
MY POINT IS ANY DIET IS JUST WHAT YOU DECIDE TO EAT... It has been proven if we eat healthy and practice portion control we are doing the right thing for our bodies. . Weight Watchers is a mirror to the American Diabetic Meal Plan as well as the American Heart Association Diet...you just need to pick one that you can live with..
The Paleo Diet has some good recipes which can be used in other diet plans. The downside is they do not control potions and it is very heavy in fat. The idea is eating good fat over bad.. problem is if you have diabetes your body does not process fat easily. ..
Anyway thatv is my 2cents worth0 -
Marianna93637 wrote: »I don't really get the Paleo diet. First of all, it's supposed to be copying the diet of the Paleolithic era. It's emulating what people ate back then, and what they had available. My issue is that our lifestyle is nothing similar to what it was back then. We don't spend hours every day gathering our food, we don't run 30 miles, chasing and animal, and then waiting it out for days sometimes, to then have a big feast (mostly meat), which has to supply our bodies with enough energy for the upcoming weeks, because for that time, it's back to foraging and eating nuts and plants.
We sit on our butts working or in the car for hours every day. Even those who run 10 + miles a day, it's just not the same as it was back then.
So for me, this diet makes no sense.
Well frankly it shouldn't make sense to anyone since its a fad diet, which are inherently confusing in their aims.0 -
cwolfman13 wrote: »They tell you why...They also took issue with the more popular Paleo diet on each of the criteria evaluated. It scored lowest in the long-term weight loss category and is considered “extremely” difficult to follow.
The panel praised Paleo's emphasis on veggies and lean meat but disapproved of cutting out dairy and grain completely. One panelist said, “The risk of nutrient deficiency is real, unless the person takes a multivitamin.”
If you're doing true paleo, it's pretty difficult for most people to stick to...it's very restrictive and I could easily see how people could/would miss out on certain nutrients.
Plus, why are beans the devil?
Because of the evil lectins
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sklarbodds wrote: »Interesting...the panel of 20 health experts ranked the 35 most popular diets and paleo came in last.
Thoughts?
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I would imagine that, as with any diet, it depends on how it's actually practiced. People can eat well or badly within the restrictions of most diets that rely on some sort of limitation of the foods eaten. To the extent that they suggest that it's difficult to eat in a healthy fashion if you cut out dairy and grains, I actually think that's kind of silly, though. One reason I wouldn't do paleo is that I think cutting out dairy is dumb, if you like it, aren't lactose intolerant, and don't have ethical issues with it (I love dairy, personally), but it's hardly necessary at all for a healthy diet. IMO, the health benefits of grains are often overstated and easy enough to make up for with other foods, and if you eat lots of veggies and fruits you shouldn't need a multivitamin more than anyone else.
I'd criticize paleo more for being anti bean.0 -
bluelaceangel wrote: »My son and daughter in law became very devoted to the paleo diet.. even gave a book on it for Christmas about 4 yrs ago... they are also heavily into CROSS FIT. They work out daily and teach it.
Daughter in law became preg and the doc told them they must change their diet if she wanted a healthy baby and to ease up on cross fit. ..
They have switched to what is called the CLEAN EATING DIET.
MY POINT IS ANY DIET IS JUST WHAT YOU DECIDE TO EAT... It has been proven if we eat healthy and practice portion control we are doing the right thing for our bodies. . Weight Watchers is a mirror to the American Diabetic Meal Plan as well as the American Heart Association Diet...you just need to pick one that you can live with..
The Paleo Diet has some good recipes which can be used in other diet plans. The downside is they do not control potions and it is very heavy in fat. The idea is eating good fat over bad.. problem is if you have diabetes your body does not process fat easily. ..
Anyway thatv is my 2cents worth
Though it was not stated, I would imagine that one of the reasons Paleo was voted last was that it's idea of what is good fat differs from most medical recommendations.0 -
My 2012 experience of Paleo - it doesn't go well for a long distance runner. It was a waste of my time and energy.... waste of whatever bare minimum energy I had.
As a runner I wouldn't want to go back to it.0 -
What do you mean, pseudo science!? You mean paleolithic humans didn't sit around eating chocolate covered bacon and doing burpees all day? Color me shocked.
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tkillion810 wrote: »Interesting. I am testing out a pseudo - paleo diet right now. I add in pseudo grains, as I am a long distance runner and still need a fair amount of carbs. I've worked with a nutritionist and developed a plan that closely mimics the paleo concepts. Lots of fresh veggies and fruits, quality meat and no dairy. I don't find it hard to follow. I"m sure there are studies and opinions that can dispute every diet. I know I lost most of my weight following WW. However, doing so, I developed some really poor habits and relationship with food. It became about getting the most volume for the least amount of points, and I was eating a ton of processed stuff. It took me a long time to recover from what workouts I was doing at the time, I lacked energy, I had acne, and my hair and nails were brittle and weak.
Thanks for sharing the link! It's always good to read more and try to expand our box of thinking!
if you are eating grains it is not paleo ..
and LOL at pseudo paleo....but I guess that makes sense since paleo is pseudo science...
why don't you just eat a regular diet with carbs then ..????
Certain grains were precipitating cravings. Since eliminating the grains, I've not had the issue with them. As a long distance runner, my body still needs a fair amount of carbs each day, so I get them from sweet potatoes, quinoa, amarath, and buckwheat.0 -
Well, Slim-Fast came in at #7 best weight loss diet. So.0
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It's not even the worst it's the worst of the best. There's a slight difference and yeah the slim fast ranking... huh?0
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