Any ideas on what veg to eat unlimited?
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Aaahh ana, always the voice of reason
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christinev297 wrote: »Aaahh ana, always the voice of reason xx
I actually love cheese on broccoli now too, so a plateful of broccoli many times a day would be a terrible idea lol. Always need to consider total context of eating habits, since the individual item might be fine even in a large quantity.. but if you've already reached your caloric goals then eating a 200 calorie plate of veggies sure doesn't help!0 -
christinev297 wrote: »WalkingAlong wrote: »
Why do people assume their own rules are the only way to lose weight? I see nothing wrong with allowing yourself unlimited vegetables, if that's your preference. People don't get fat overeating broccoli.missiontofitness wrote: »None; track and weigh everything. Nothing is "unlimited" when pursuing a lifestyle change.
They do if eating platefuls of broccoli multiply times a day leads to increasing their caloric intake enough to be at or above maintenance. And since most people don't just eat broccoli all day and must account for all food they eat, over-eating could still easily happen if someone eats an unlimited amount of veggies.
I dare you to eat enough platefuls of broccoli multiple times a day to put you over your calorie limit.
my thoughts exactly! I've never heard of anyone becoming overweight by eating fruit and veggies
In my years on WW, I saw quite a few women who stopped losing and even gained because they bought into the "Fruit is 0 points" rhetoric and just chowed down on bananas, berries and flesh fruit all day. The calories can really add up.0 -
missiontofitness wrote: »WalkingAlong wrote: »
Why do people assume their own rules are the only way to lose weight? I see nothing wrong with allowing yourself unlimited vegetables, if that's your preference. People don't get fat overeating broccoli.missiontofitness wrote: »None; track and weigh everything. Nothing is "unlimited" when pursuing a lifestyle change.
They do if eating platefuls of broccoli multiply times a day leads to increasing their caloric intake enough to be at or above maintenance. And since most people don't just eat broccoli all day and must account for all food they eat, over-eating could still easily happen if someone eats an unlimited amount of veggies.
I dare you to eat enough platefuls of broccoli multiple times a day to put you over your calorie limit.
Potatoes are quite calorie dense, and could be a calorie buster if you ate a plateful of them.
And I used to eat platefuls of them. Very easily. Often along with some corn, which can also be considered calorie dense. Then some butter on top of that. I used to eat large servings of potatoes like 3-4x a day sometimes! But because it was "clean" it was okay, until I of course gained weight.
But we're not talking about fruits and potatos. She asked, and i commented about Broccoli. Not cheese, not butter. Broccoli. Eat as much as you want until you're full. A cup of broccoli is about 100 calories. Can you eat four or five cups of them?0 -
missiontofitness wrote: »WalkingAlong wrote: »
Why do people assume their own rules are the only way to lose weight? I see nothing wrong with allowing yourself unlimited vegetables, if that's your preference. People don't get fat overeating broccoli.missiontofitness wrote: »None; track and weigh everything. Nothing is "unlimited" when pursuing a lifestyle change.
They do if eating platefuls of broccoli multiply times a day leads to increasing their caloric intake enough to be at or above maintenance. And since most people don't just eat broccoli all day and must account for all food they eat, over-eating could still easily happen if someone eats an unlimited amount of veggies.
I dare you to eat enough platefuls of broccoli multiple times a day to put you over your calorie limit.
Potatoes are quite calorie dense, and could be a calorie buster if you ate a plateful of them.
And I used to eat platefuls of them. Very easily. Often along with some corn, which can also be considered calorie dense. Then some butter on top of that. I used to eat large servings of potatoes like 3-4x a day sometimes! But because it was "clean" it was okay, until I of course gained weight.
But we're not talking about fruits and potatos. She asked, and i commented about Broccoli. Not cheese, not butter. Broccoli. Eat as much as you want until you're full. A cup of broccoli is about 100 calories. Can you eat four or five cups of them?
Not without blowing my husband out of bed...
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Says who? Why is there a diet gestapo in every thread? Why not do it your way and offer advice if you like but recognize that other valid methods exist?True. But most people are on MFP because they want to give calorie counting a try. Sure, you can use this site other ways, but if you're going to calorie count, you have to count everything -- yes, even broccoli.
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Alatariel75 wrote: »missiontofitness wrote: »WalkingAlong wrote: »
Why do people assume their own rules are the only way to lose weight? I see nothing wrong with allowing yourself unlimited vegetables, if that's your preference. People don't get fat overeating broccoli.missiontofitness wrote: »None; track and weigh everything. Nothing is "unlimited" when pursuing a lifestyle change.
They do if eating platefuls of broccoli multiply times a day leads to increasing their caloric intake enough to be at or above maintenance. And since most people don't just eat broccoli all day and must account for all food they eat, over-eating could still easily happen if someone eats an unlimited amount of veggies.
I dare you to eat enough platefuls of broccoli multiple times a day to put you over your calorie limit.
Potatoes are quite calorie dense, and could be a calorie buster if you ate a plateful of them.
And I used to eat platefuls of them. Very easily. Often along with some corn, which can also be considered calorie dense. Then some butter on top of that. I used to eat large servings of potatoes like 3-4x a day sometimes! But because it was "clean" it was okay, until I of course gained weight.
But we're not talking about fruits and potatos. She asked, and i commented about Broccoli. Not cheese, not butter. Broccoli. Eat as much as you want until you're full. A cup of broccoli is about 100 calories. Can you eat four or five cups of them?
Not without blowing my husband out of bed...
LOL! That was unexpected...0 -
A cup of spinach (30 g) has 7 calories. .9 g protein (3.6 calories), 1.1 g carbs (0.7 g of which are fiber - so 2.5 calories, 1 of which is fiber), and 0.1 g fat (almost 1 calorie).
I suppose it is possible to go over calories eating spinach, but as you would need to eat 4 cups to get close to 50 calories, it would take a lot of spinach (143 cups, or over 4 kilos for 1000 calories). Spinach has a lot (relative to total calories) of protein, but it is veggie protein, so it probably needs to be paired with something else to be used effectively by the body (meat protein or whole grain).0 -
christinev297 wrote: »WalkingAlong wrote: »
Why do people assume their own rules are the only way to lose weight? I see nothing wrong with allowing yourself unlimited vegetables, if that's your preference. People don't get fat overeating broccoli.missiontofitness wrote: »None; track and weigh everything. Nothing is "unlimited" when pursuing a lifestyle change.
They do if eating platefuls of broccoli multiply times a day leads to increasing their caloric intake enough to be at or above maintenance. And since most people don't just eat broccoli all day and must account for all food they eat, over-eating could still easily happen if someone eats an unlimited amount of veggies.
I dare you to eat enough platefuls of broccoli multiple times a day to put you over your calorie limit.
my thoughts exactly! I've never heard of anyone becoming overweight by eating fruit and veggies
I've known some chunky Hindus who've been vegetarians their whole lives. Maybe they use too much oil?0 -
Celery 1 stalk = 10 calories0
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WalkingAlong wrote: »
Says who? Why is there a diet gestapo in every thread? Why not do it your way and offer advice if you like but recognize that other valid methods exist?True. But most people are on MFP because they want to give calorie counting a try. Sure, you can use this site other ways, but if you're going to calorie count, you have to count everything -- yes, even broccoli.
Exactly. I never count vegetables. Granted, I don't eat the starchy ones (yuck), but I've managed to lose all of my weight without bogging myself down in the minutiae. If a plate of broccoli is going to put you over for the day, you're probably cutting it too close.0 -
WalkingAlong wrote: »
Says who? Why is there a diet gestapo in every thread? Why not do it your way and offer advice if you like but recognize that other valid methods exist?True. But most people are on MFP because they want to give calorie counting a try. Sure, you can use this site other ways, but if you're going to calorie count, you have to count everything -- yes, even broccoli.
Exactly. I never count vegetables. Granted, I don't eat the starchy ones (yuck), but I've managed to lose all of my weight without bogging myself down in the minutiae. If a plate of broccoli is going to put you over for the day, you're probably cutting it too close.
Not cutting it close, but I've had days where veggies account for 1/6 of my caloric intake. If you're happy with your rate of loss and don't want to count that's fine, but if you ever hit a plateau, that is why.0 -
If I hit a plateau, I wouldn't be looking at my veg intake.0
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Alatariel75 wrote: »christinev297 wrote: »WalkingAlong wrote: »
Why do people assume their own rules are the only way to lose weight? I see nothing wrong with allowing yourself unlimited vegetables, if that's your preference. People don't get fat overeating broccoli.missiontofitness wrote: »None; track and weigh everything. Nothing is "unlimited" when pursuing a lifestyle change.
They do if eating platefuls of broccoli multiply times a day leads to increasing their caloric intake enough to be at or above maintenance. And since most people don't just eat broccoli all day and must account for all food they eat, over-eating could still easily happen if someone eats an unlimited amount of veggies.
I dare you to eat enough platefuls of broccoli multiple times a day to put you over your calorie limit.
my thoughts exactly! I've never heard of anyone becoming overweight by eating fruit and veggies
In my years on WW, I saw quite a few women who stopped losing and even gained because they bought into the "Fruit is 0 points" rhetoric and just chowed down on bananas, berries and flesh fruit all day. The calories can really add up.
they add up pretty quickly too. I love bananas, have one on my oatmeal every day. They range anywhere from 80 calories to 135, depending on how much they weigh. Free my foot!
Same with blackberries and rSpberies. No one size fits all.
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christinev297 wrote: »I love broccoli. I I chop a whole one into florets, put them in a freezer bag with a bit of oil and garlic and shake. Spread out on an oven tray and bake for 20ish minutes until crunchy. I eat the whole lot in one sitting.
mmmmmmmmm gonna try this sounds yummy
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P.s I don't mean it as a snack or inbetween meals just because its winter sometimes I want to be able to fill up properly instead of having a chicken salad etc
I then would eat cottage cheese on the side for my protein
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missiontofitness wrote: »WalkingAlong wrote: »
Why do people assume their own rules are the only way to lose weight? I see nothing wrong with allowing yourself unlimited vegetables, if that's your preference. People don't get fat overeating broccoli.missiontofitness wrote: »None; track and weigh everything. Nothing is "unlimited" when pursuing a lifestyle change.
They do if eating platefuls of broccoli multiply times a day leads to increasing their caloric intake enough to be at or above maintenance. And since most people don't just eat broccoli all day and must account for all food they eat, over-eating could still easily happen if someone eats an unlimited amount of veggies.
I dare you to eat enough platefuls of broccoli multiple times a day to put you over your calorie limit.
Potatoes are quite calorie dense, and could be a calorie buster if you ate a plateful of them.
I don't eat potatoes, maybe sweet potatoes about once a month but in small amounts
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None IMO - weigh and log everything
although veg like lettuce and salad stuff tend to be low enough to not worry too much I still weigh them
If you're on a bigger defecit it might be OK to not log, but as soon as you have a smaller defecit best to weigh and log, it's easy to eat into 250 calorie defecit, even with just that extra portion of veg .. particularly when it's the more substantial ones like squash, carrots etc (note I'm avoiding the potato conversation 0 -
what the rabbit said. Its calories and you should log it. It can be hundreds if you eat substantial amounts. Its a question of whether you wnat youir record to be accurate or not. the less accurate it is, then the less chance you have of knowing whether you are at deficit or not and where.
LOG IT.0 -
None IMO - weigh and log everything
although veg like lettuce and salad stuff tend to be low enough to not worry too much I still weigh them
If you're on a bigger defecit it might be OK to not log, but as soon as you have a smaller defecit best to weigh and log, it's easy to eat into 250 calorie defecit, even with just that extra portion of veg .. particularly when it's the more substantial ones like squash, carrots etc (note I'm avoiding the potato conversation
All I wanted to know was about the carb content, I'm not going to go over my personal daily allowance
I wasn't on about an 'extra portion' of veg, I was on about using just veg as a meal when I fancy it, that's all
I'm normally way under my calorie count daily because I train so hard with cardio
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