Could use some advice!
Jake587
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Hi MyFitnessPal community. I have been doing a lot of research on healthy eating and such, but I could use some advice from you guys to see what works and what doesn't.
Should I be drinking wheybolic protein shakes in the morning and then prior to my work out in the afternoon? Or should I have a shake post workout? Thoughts, opinions.?
Should I be drinking wheybolic protein shakes in the morning and then prior to my work out in the afternoon? Or should I have a shake post workout? Thoughts, opinions.?
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There are opinions all over the board on meal timing with regards when one should consume protein and it probably doesn't really matter when you supplement with extra protein, however, if you're trying to build muscle they can be a quick and handy supplement to your overall foodstuff diet.
Recommendations in how much protein are all over the place. I've read as little as .25 grams per 1 pound of LBM to as much as 2 grams per LBM.
All in all you gotta find out what works for you. But document -- it will assist you in troubleshooting if the gains you seek are not achieved.0 -
Hello and welcome to MFP!
If you’re just starting out I’d recommend reading these two threads as they contain good, honest information that will set you on the right track:
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1235566/so-youre-new-here/p1
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1080242/a-guide-to-get-you-started-on-your-path-to-sexypants/p1
There is debate about meal timing pre and post workout. There's an excellent series of videos on youtube from a guy called Eric Helms, look for Part 4: Pyramid Level 4 - Nutrient Timing & Frequency, he talks about it in that.
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You definitely should use protein shake right after your workout, to help repairing your fractured muscle cells, (that's the time when you get the most of protein supplement), and then have some nice healthy meal. Dextrose is a way better choice to drink right before your workout(during it too), and ofc. some healthy, high energy meal aprox. one or two hours before workout.0
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My goal is to lose 10lbs. Does adding all this extra protein into my diet help with weight loss, along with healthy eating?0
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My day mostly consists of breakfast ( 2 scoops of GNC wheybolic protein shake) and usually some yogurt or a banana. I have lunch (lean meat and veggies) and then 2 more scoops of that protein before my work out around 4:00 - 5:00 PM, then usually a half hour to an hour after I have a light dinner. Usually high in protein.
Will I see weight loss with this type of schedule? My daily calorie limit on here is 1,850. I have been under just from all the protein shakes I have.
Thoughts or opinions appreciated.0 -
My goal is to lose 10lbs. Does adding all this extra protein into my diet help with weight loss, along with healthy eating?
Eat at deficit. Weight train to keep muscle if that's what you're looking at doing.
I assume you've figured out your BMR and TDEE to establish just how many calories you should be eating per day?0 -
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My goal is to lose 10lbs. Does adding all this extra protein into my diet help with weight loss, along with healthy eating?
It wont help with the amount of your loss, but will help ensure that a larger % of your loss comes from fat, and less from muscle.
So will help with fat loss, not weight loss.0 -
nakedraygun wrote: »My goal is to lose 10lbs. Does adding all this extra protein into my diet help with weight loss, along with healthy eating?
Eat at deficit. Weight train to keep muscle if that's what you're looking at doing.
I assume you've figured out your BMR and TDEE to establish just how many calories you should be eating per day?
actually a higher amount of protein is more important in a deficit than a surplus, as your body will use the energy in carbs in a surplus and the protein will go towards building muscle, whereas in a deficit you are in an energy shortage, and using your muscles (strength training) combined with protein is essential so you don't use you muscles for fuel.
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I am doing P90x, so I'm incorporating weight training and putting muscle on as well as trying to shed fat.0
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nakedraygun wrote: »My goal is to lose 10lbs. Does adding all this extra protein into my diet help with weight loss, along with healthy eating?
Eat at deficit. Weight train to keep muscle if that's what you're looking at doing.
I assume you've figured out your BMR and TDEE to establish just how many calories you should be eating per day?
actually a higher amount of protein is more important in a deficit than a surplus, as your body will use the energy in carbs in a surplus and the protein will go towards building muscle, whereas in a deficit you are in an energy shortage, and using your muscles (strength training) combined with protein is essential so you don't use you muscles for fuel.0 -
When you are talking deficit and surplus are you referring to fat? So by saying protein is essential for a deficit because the energy your body uses won't fuel from muscle but from fat?0
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I guess what I should have clarified is that I'm trying to burn fat (mainly stomach fat) . Not necessarily weight, so I am working out usually 5-6 days a week and eating very healthy with mens multi pack from GNC and the wheybolic protein0
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When you are talking deficit and surplus are you referring to fat? So by saying protein is essential for a deficit because the energy your body uses won't fuel from muscle but from fat?
However, if your intention is to cut and you are still consuming more calories than you expend, not where those particular calories come from, you'll still put on weight. Eating loads of protein isn't going to help you lose fat in of itself, unless you eat overall at deficit. Eating protein will help spare some muscle loss.0 -
I guess what I should have clarified is that I'm trying to burn fat (mainly stomach fat) . Not necessarily weight, so I am working out usually 5-6 days a week and eating very healthy with mens multi pack from GNC and the wheybolic protein
Also, vitamin supps won't help you lose fat.0 -
Ok so I googled what my body burns in. Typical day. I have a desk job, not very active during the day. It's saying based off my weight height and age I should be burning roughly 2,120 calories a day. MyFitnessPal has me set at an 1,850 calorie limit on the day. Which I stay well below because of how full I feel off my protein shakes, lunch and dinner.
I do P90x 6 days a week at the gym after work. Based off this information, do you think it's likely I will see weight loss as well as muscle gain?0 -
I do P90x 6 days a week at the gym after work. Based off this information, do you think it's likely I will see weight loss as well as muscle gain?
I'll try to describe the prevailing wisdom (lack of a better word) on this issue. Generally, you really can not gain that much in the way of muscle while cutting. (I've read some outlier opinion on that that disagrees.) Anyway, no, generally you will not see much in the way of muscle gain -- if at all -- while cutting. What you will see is the muscle already there as fat cells shrink and die away. You will become "toned."
You want muscle, lift heavy (and if you are a neophyte lifter find a program to get you going) and eat at a calorie surplus after your cut to build muscle - that's the bulk. I also recommend a calipers to determine body composition. The scale is not the most accurate tool in that regards.
Search these forums... these topics are discussed endlessly. lol0 -
Haha sorry for keeping this going. I just did a BMR - 1900 and my BMI is 28.03.
So if I stay under the BMR of 1900 and work out I should see weight loss? Or just a more tone look?0 -
You're not supposed to stay under your BMR, you're supposed to stay under your TDEE. This is your BMR plus all activity including normal daily movements and exercise. Somewhere between BMR and TDEE should work nicely.0
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Haha sorry for keeping this going. I just did a BMR - 1900 and my BMI is 28.03.
So if I stay under the BMR of 1900 and work out I should see weight loss? Or just a more tone look?
If you go under your BMR you will die. (No not right away.) The BMR number is the minimum amount of calories you need to keep your heart pumping blood to your brain and your lungs breathing.0 -
If you eat less than you burn, you will see weight loss, yes.
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So my BMR is (depending on what site I use) somewhere between 1800-1900. My TDEE is 2585. So eating roughly 2000 calories a day will lead to weight loss?
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Muscle eats fat like nothing else, you should find a diet that is high in protein , so you don't lose muscle, and if you don't really take that many calories in now , why diet ? If you just don't do anything and have fat , the workout should fix that. I take in between 3500 and 4000 calories a day. I have a little fat around the middle, but you want some fat to guarantee no muscle loss. When I hit my goal weight , I will cut calories , keep high protein and lose the fat. Then maintain by watching my weight and adjusting accordingly.0
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Why is MFP telling me to stay under 1,850 calories a day? Is it because I want to lose a pound per week, and it goes to the extreme of dropping me below my BMR?
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Because MFP is designed to input your exercise calories burned and eat those back as well.0
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So my BMR is (depending on what site I use) somewhere between 1800-1900. My TDEE is 2585. So eating roughly 2000 calories a day will lead to weight loss?
Generally, -500 a day should in 7 days induce a pound weight loss - say 10 weeks for 10 pounds. Just don't always expect that. Patience, trust the process.
Also, cutting 500 a day can be a little much to adjust too at first. Ease into it by working up to that number - try easing into with cutting only 250 per day for a week before going all in. If you are not in great hurry, record what you eat regularly now before trying to cut - That will give you a baseline to start with to compare to as you restrict calories moving forward.0 -
Do I cut the 500 off of my TDEE?0
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You can have a shake right before or after a work out, you can eats lots if protein if you want to bulk up, don't work out on an empty stomach. It really doesn't help with burning the stored fat. You have to work 30mibs or more to hack into the stored fat and start burning it. A good idea is taking one to two hours out if a day and cook and freeze you meals to help you stay on track, that way you have no excuse for eating something bad or not wanting to cook because it's already there for you.0
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I do a pre-workout like Gatorade Prime, because it's inexpensive and i'm less likely to puke (if I'm doing Insanity) with little on my stomach. If i'm lifting, I can do any sort of caloric intake before working out. I do a high protein shot or Herbalife shake within a hour of post workout. Anything over 15g of protein per meal, the body has a hard time breaking down and using. So you're literally flushing good protein down the toilet. A supplement ( I use Aminogen, again Herbalife) to help with excess protein intake.0
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