Thinking about drastically cutting my carb intake

xsix
xsix Posts: 62 Member
edited November 11 in Food and Nutrition
I have been doing some research, seems that cutting my carb intake even lower and entering a state of Ketosis may be the answer for me, Brown Rice is one of my staple foods, so this is going to be interesting. My fitness pal budgets about 240 Grams of Carbohydrates a day, this will mean cutting down to around 30 Grams a day super low-carb diet.

Here is one of the articles that I read about it.
http://www.schwarzenegger.com/fitness/post/carb-back-loading-training-without-carbs

What do you think?

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  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 48,990 Member
    If you can't sustain the diet for life, then it's not worth attempting.

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  • UnicornAmanda
    UnicornAmanda Posts: 294 Member
    ninerbuff wrote: »
    If you can't sustain the diet for life, then it's not worth attempting.

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    ^^^I agree.
  • Eatwell140
    Eatwell140 Posts: 3 Member
    ^^agreed. A balanced diet builds a better body. Be patient.
  • RodaRose
    RodaRose Posts: 9,562 Member
    Some people feel better on it. Give it a try.
  • LaineyVAhimsa
    LaineyVAhimsa Posts: 28 Member
    No! A major food group should not be cut out from anyone's diet. Its unsustainable and extremely unhealthy. Your body needs carbs, its the main food group that gives you energy. Just limit processed carbs and eat complex carbs, limit meat and dairy. Cut out saturated fat, eat good fats. Simple changes have a big impact over time. Its not gonna happen over night. Any diet that claims really fast initial weight loss will just be water weight you lose not fat ....
  • E_Ashton
    E_Ashton Posts: 14 Member
    You're better cutting down on meat, cheese and milk rather than carbs trust me!!!
  • TavistockToad
    TavistockToad Posts: 35,719 Member
    E_Ashton wrote: »
    You're better cutting down on meat, cheese and milk rather than carbs trust me!!!

    any reason for that?
  • mfp2014mfp
    mfp2014mfp Posts: 689 Member
    edited January 2015
    I think you should give it a go, Ive found experimenting with foods and seeing how my body responds to be extremely interesting. I wouldnt do it for a long time though, as for weightlos well thats still just cico...
  • lemurcat12
    lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886 Member
    edited January 2015
    Unnecessary, but try it and see if you like it.

    I found cutting carbs to a higher (non ketosis) level worked for me (100 or so, now 150 or less), but mine weren't super high to start with and I don't tend to adore carb staples like rice. If you are cutting out foods you love it seems like it would be more challenging and perhaps not sustainable, but see how you feel if interested.
  • kalamitykate83
    kalamitykate83 Posts: 227 Member
    I agree, don't cut it completely. You need carbs, especially if you're exercising. It's just a case of having the right carbs!! I've just put a post up about carb cycling, so that might work for you depending on how it works ... I'm hoping someone on here will be able to give me info! :smile:
  • Kfollett21262
    Kfollett21262 Posts: 4 Member
    I cut my carb intake to around 25 over 3 months ago. Have shifted 32 pounds and put my T2 into remission. Still have a long way to go (60 lbs) but have no doubt I will make it.
    There is so much info on line and lots of great, interesting recipes to make.
    Would not hesitate to recommend, I find it pretty simple.
  • neanderthin
    neanderthin Posts: 10,222 Member
    laineymummy wrote: »
    No! A major food group should not be cut out from anyone's diet. Its unsustainable and extremely unhealthy. Your body needs carbs, its the main food group that gives you energy. Just limit processed carbs and eat complex carbs, limit meat and dairy. Cut out saturated fat, eat good fats. Simple changes have a big impact over time. Its not gonna happen over night. Any diet that claims really fast initial weight loss will just be water weight you lose not fat ....
    Well, no.
  • tennisdude2004
    tennisdude2004 Posts: 5,609 Member
    xsix wrote: »
    I have been doing some research, seems that cutting my carb intake even lower and entering a state of Ketosis may be the answer for me, Brown Rice is one of my staple foods, so this is going to be interesting. My fitness pal budgets about 240 Grams of Carbohydrates a day, this will mean cutting down to around 30 Grams a day super low-carb diet.

    Here is one of the articles that I read about it.
    http://www.schwarzenegger.com/fitness/post/carb-back-loading-training-without-carbs

    What do you think?

    As some of the others have mention it needs to be sustainable.

    Some people will thrive off a low carb diet and find it easy to sustain, others won't, same as counting calories I suppose.

    Also you don't need to stay so low carb that you are always in keto if you might find that difficult, if you are generally low carb, some find it quite easy to switch in and out.

  • tennisdude2004
    tennisdude2004 Posts: 5,609 Member
    edited January 2015
    laineymummy wrote: »
    No! A major food group should not be cut out from anyone's diet. Its unsustainable and extremely unhealthy. Your body needs carbs, its the main food group that gives you energy. Just limit processed carbs and eat complex carbs, limit meat and dairy. Cut out saturated fat, eat good fats. Simple changes have a big impact over time. Its not gonna happen over night. Any diet that claims really fast initial weight loss will just be water weight you lose not fat ....

    Unsustainable - no (will be for some won't be for others)
    Extremely unhealthy - no (not even mildly unhealthy, in fact very healthy)
    Your body needs carbs - no (at least not dietary).
    Limit meat - no
    limit dairy - no (unless you are intolerant of diary)
    cut out saturated fats - no (hell no)
    eat good fats - yes (best fat is saturated fat - worst is man made trans fats and limit your polyunsaturated fats)

    Apart from those amendments, what she said.


  • E_Ashton
    E_Ashton Posts: 14 Member
    TavistockToad wrote: »
    E_Ashton wrote: »
    You're better cutting down on meat, cheese and milk rather than carbs trust me!!!

    any reason for that?

  • E_Ashton
    E_Ashton Posts: 14 Member
    A person who doesn't eat meat or at least limits it tends to have a lower BMI and also meats and dairy products don't do much for the body except clog up arteries! Nothing wrong with carbs as long as you calorie count! :)
  • HeySwoleSister
    HeySwoleSister Posts: 1,938 Member
    I'm frankly suspicious of any extreme cutting back of a major nutrient group, barring pertinent medical diagnoses, of course.

    You need to seriously consider the fact one of your favorite staple foods would be so restricted. Diverting too far from your own personal eating preferences will lead to an unsustainable situation.

    Don't believe the hype about gimmicks that may or may not work for other people. Look to your own tastes and fitness goals when planning your food choices.
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  • LolBroScience
    LolBroScience Posts: 4,537 Member
    E_Ashton wrote: »
    A person who doesn't eat meat or at least limits it tends to have a lower BMI and also meats and dairy products don't do much for the body except clog up arteries! Nothing wrong with carbs as long as you calorie count! :)

    no.
  • goddessofawesome
    goddessofawesome Posts: 563 Member
    E_Ashton wrote: »
    A person who doesn't eat meat or at least limits it tends to have a lower BMI and also meats and dairy products don't do much for the body except clog up arteries! Nothing wrong with carbs as long as you calorie count! :)

    Wrong.

    Besides that BMI is an antiquated system that means nothing.

  • Brolympus
    Brolympus Posts: 360 Member
    Sounds like a fad diet OP. Fads come and go. Your diet should be a lifelong thing, something you can sustain. Just count your calories. That is really all it comes down to.
  • MKEgal
    MKEgal Posts: 3,250 Member
    E_Ashton wrote:
    A person who doesn't eat meat or at least limits it tends to have a lower BMI and also meats and dairy products don't do much for the body except clog up arteries!
    Weight loss or gain is simply calories in / calories out.
    I know someone who's vegetarian (because it's easier to eat kosher), as are her kids (dad eats meat, but has to cook it himself), and the whole family is morbidly obese.
    The mom (vegetarian) could easily stand to lose 150-200 lb.
    Dad is probably close to 100 lb overweight.
    The kids are different ages, but again both could probably lose at least 50 lb (the older one more).

    Meats & dairy products bring protein (the most complete kind). Yes, they also have some unhealthy fats.
  • Brolympus
    Brolympus Posts: 360 Member
    E_Ashton wrote: »
    A person who doesn't eat meat or at least limits it tends to have a lower BMI and also meats and dairy products don't do much for the body except clog up arteries! Nothing wrong with carbs as long as you calorie count! :)

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  • E_Ashton
    E_Ashton Posts: 14 Member
    You can get protein out of other things! I'm just saying cheeses and things hold a lot of fat that you could cut out. I'm not trying to preach and say yeh go vegan I'm saying instead of cutting carbs cut out some dairy and meat.
  • goddessofawesome
    goddessofawesome Posts: 563 Member
    E_Ashton wrote: »
    You can get protein out of other things! I'm just saying cheeses and things hold a lot of fat that you could cut out. I'm not trying to preach and say yeh go vegan I'm saying instead of cutting carbs cut out some dairy and meat.

    Why though, besides your view on the fat that's in them (which fat isn't all bad for you. One needs fat in their diet). What good reason is there to cut out meats and dairy?
  • E_Ashton
    E_Ashton Posts: 14 Member
    I'm not saying cut them out all together! They are just high in saturated fat and can cause heart problems! It's better for your body to not over consume that's all!
  • MKEgal
    MKEgal Posts: 3,250 Member
    edited January 2015
    Eating higher protein & lower carbs does lead to more weight loss, but you should stay within the healthy macro ranges. Try 45% carbs, 20% fat, 35% protein.
    Quotes from & links to the studies here:
    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/blog/MKEgal/view/2014-08-09-high-protein-diet-685553

    And here's a table which explains the healthy ranges:
    http://www.iom.edu/Global/News%20Announcements/~/media/C5CD2DD7840544979A549EC47E56A02B.ashx

    page 1, carbs, 45 - 65% of calories (4 cal per gram)
    page 2, fat, 20 - 35% of calories (9 cal per gram)
    page 4, protein, 10 - 35% of calories (4 cal per gram)

    You might also benefit from reading this from the Academy of Nutrition & Dietetics, explaining what makes a fad diet & why you should avoid them.
    http://www.eatright.org/Public/content.aspx?id=6851

    Also, their analysis of a ketosis diet.
    http://www.eatright.org/Media/content.aspx?id=6442481516&terms=ketosis
    "the diet includes only 20 grams of net carbs, which clearly supports fast weight loss that is primarily water from the severe carbohydrate restriction"
    "this is less than half the established minimum level of 120 grams of carbohydrates that are required for adequate brain function and daily energy. [A lower] carbohydrate level doesn't support good health or energy needs for regular physical activity and may actually slow down metabolism."
    "Any diet that omits whole food groups will not provide optimal nutrition for optimal health."
  • jim180155
    jim180155 Posts: 769 Member
    Carbs are your body's preferred source of energy. If you switch to a low carb diet, your body will adapt in a couple weeks and learn to use protein and fats for energy. At that point you should no longer feel like crap. Much. But what's the point of putting your body through that? Unless you have a medical condition or if you have no need of energy (completely sedentary lifestyle), you were built to eat carbs.
  • goddessofawesome
    goddessofawesome Posts: 563 Member
    E_Ashton wrote: »
    I'm not saying cut them out all together! They are just high in saturated fat and can cause heart problems! It's better for your body to not over consume that's all!

    There are a lot of things that are high in saturated fats.
  • KetoLife4Me15
    KetoLife4Me15 Posts: 14 Member
    Agree with Brolympus on many of these comments. Do your own research, not what you learn from people who are relying on heresay and belief in old principles fed to us by our government and studies funded by the very people who benefit from us staying unhealthy. Saturated fat is good for you. Your body does not need carbs for energy.

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