Thinking about drastically cutting my carb intake
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Barring certain health conditions, it's simply unnecessary. Calorie restriction works if you stick with it.0
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jennifer_417 wrote: »Barring certain health conditions, it's simply unnecessary. Calorie restriction works if you stick with it.
Jogging isn't necessary. You can live an entire, healthy life without ever jogging. Funny, nobody goes around telling all the joggers to quit because it's not necessary.0 -
Sam_I_Am77 wrote: »Sam_I_Am77 wrote: »Your brains main source of energy comes from carbohydrates. Your brain can't function properly without them. Instead of cutting them cold turkey why not cut 10-15 grams each week until you find your ideal ratio. It will be easier for your body to adjust.
This again? My brain is functioning just fine, thanks. Has been for 15 years.KitkatcuteNYC wrote: »You need carbs. That's what your brain and body runs on. Eat plenty of fruits and veggies. No need to cut carbs.
1) Your brain runs on carbs when you feed it carbs. Your brain runs on fat when it's processed by your liver and there are no carbs. If you had to have carbs, entire populations would've died out millions of years ago.
2) Low carb is plenty of veggies and fruit, what gave you the idea it wasn't?
I think everybody is missing something, we don't necessarily run on fat or carbs; essentially your body manages what you give it and makes it into glucose somehow. How your body manages what you feed it (fat / carbs) is a different matter.
I get that, but I had a feeling a longer explanation would've been lost in that instance.
Yeah, I'm sure a better conversation on this would take more time. I just think the back-and-forth debate over cutting carbs or going high-carb just gets silly. Ultimately the details of where you get your energy from for pure survival doesn't matter a ton and when it comes to weight management, it doesn't matter that much more and you really need to worry about calorie management and making sure you're consuming less than you expend. If you like eating low-carb, it works for you, and you can manage it for the long-term; then go for it. If you are successful with a moderate to high carb in-take and it works for you; then do it. Yes, this is a little over-simplified. Performance nutrition is a different subject altogether.
All in all, we are talking about one method of achieving the same outcomes: eating less to lose weight and become healthier. There is no debate here but the way it makes each of us feel. For instance, I feel that until one has tried it, one shouldn't knock it like they have. But thats just me. For the record, I have. So I can speak about my experience.0 -
Be careful. Even body builders will tell you to only be in a state of ketosis for a few days at a time. When our bodies do not get enough carbs, we go into glucogenesis. One complication can be eventual kidney stones. Moderate amounts of carbs (high nutrition chouces) is a healthier option.0
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Your brains main source of energy comes from carbohydrates. Your brain can't function properly without them. Instead of cutting them cold turkey why not cut 10-15 grams each week until you find your ideal ratio. It will be easier for your body to adjust.
This again? My brain is functioning just fine, thanks. Has been for 15 years.KitkatcuteNYC wrote: »You need carbs. That's what your brain and body runs on. Eat plenty of fruits and veggies. No need to cut carbs.
1) Your brain runs on carbs when you feed it carbs. Your brain runs on fat when it's processed by your liver and there are no carbs. If you had to have carbs, entire populations would've died out millions of years ago.
2) Low carb is plenty of veggies and fruit, what gave you the idea it wasn't?
The fact that fruit and vegetables are carbohydrate foods. Some have trace bits of protein and fat, but otherwise, fruit and veg fall in the carb macro category. If you are cutting carbs down to the bare minimum, you must cut fruit and veg.
Fiber is just a type of carbohydrate. It is not a separate thing.0 -
Your brains main source of energy comes from carbohydrates. Your brain can't function properly without them. Instead of cutting them cold turkey why not cut 10-15 grams each week until you find your ideal ratio. It will be easier for your body to adjust.
This again? My brain is functioning just fine, thanks. Has been for 15 years.KitkatcuteNYC wrote: »You need carbs. That's what your brain and body runs on. Eat plenty of fruits and veggies. No need to cut carbs.
1) Your brain runs on carbs when you feed it carbs. Your brain runs on fat when it's processed by your liver and there are no carbs. If you had to have carbs, entire populations would've died out millions of years ago.
2) Low carb is plenty of veggies and fruit, what gave you the idea it wasn't?
The fact that fruit and vegetables are carbohydrate foods. Some have trace bits of protein and fat, but otherwise, fruit and veg fall in the carb macro category. If you are cutting carbs down to the bare minimum, you must cut fruit and veg.
Fiber is just a type of carbohydrate. It is not a separate thing.
I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic or if you actually believe that.0 -
Your brains main source of energy comes from carbohydrates. Your brain can't function properly without them. Instead of cutting them cold turkey why not cut 10-15 grams each week until you find your ideal ratio. It will be easier for your body to adjust.
This again? My brain is functioning just fine, thanks. Has been for 15 years.KitkatcuteNYC wrote: »You need carbs. That's what your brain and body runs on. Eat plenty of fruits and veggies. No need to cut carbs.
1) Your brain runs on carbs when you feed it carbs. Your brain runs on fat when it's processed by your liver and there are no carbs. If you had to have carbs, entire populations would've died out millions of years ago.
2) Low carb is plenty of veggies and fruit, what gave you the idea it wasn't?
The fact that fruit and vegetables are carbohydrate foods. Some have trace bits of protein and fat, but otherwise, fruit and veg fall in the carb macro category. If you are cutting carbs down to the bare minimum, you must cut fruit and veg.
Fiber is just a type of carbohydrate. It is not a separate thing.
I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic or if you actually believe that.
fruit and veggies push me over my carb goal everytime. But I refuse to stop eating either of them
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Your brains main source of energy comes from carbohydrates. Your brain can't function properly without them. Instead of cutting them cold turkey why not cut 10-15 grams each week until you find your ideal ratio. It will be easier for your body to adjust.
This again? My brain is functioning just fine, thanks. Has been for 15 years.KitkatcuteNYC wrote: »You need carbs. That's what your brain and body runs on. Eat plenty of fruits and veggies. No need to cut carbs.
1) Your brain runs on carbs when you feed it carbs. Your brain runs on fat when it's processed by your liver and there are no carbs. If you had to have carbs, entire populations would've died out millions of years ago.
2) Low carb is plenty of veggies and fruit, what gave you the idea it wasn't?
The fact that fruit and vegetables are carbohydrate foods. Some have trace bits of protein and fat, but otherwise, fruit and veg fall in the carb macro category. If you are cutting carbs down to the bare minimum, you must cut fruit and veg.
Fiber is just a type of carbohydrate. It is not a separate thing.
I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic or if you actually believe that.
Sorry, what macro do you think veggies are? Fat? Protein? Alcohol? They are carbohydrates. True story.0 -
Your brains main source of energy comes from carbohydrates. Your brain can't function properly without them. Instead of cutting them cold turkey why not cut 10-15 grams each week until you find your ideal ratio. It will be easier for your body to adjust.
This again? My brain is functioning just fine, thanks. Has been for 15 years.KitkatcuteNYC wrote: »You need carbs. That's what your brain and body runs on. Eat plenty of fruits and veggies. No need to cut carbs.
1) Your brain runs on carbs when you feed it carbs. Your brain runs on fat when it's processed by your liver and there are no carbs. If you had to have carbs, entire populations would've died out millions of years ago.
2) Low carb is plenty of veggies and fruit, what gave you the idea it wasn't?
The fact that fruit and vegetables are carbohydrate foods. Some have trace bits of protein and fat, but otherwise, fruit and veg fall in the carb macro category. If you are cutting carbs down to the bare minimum, you must cut fruit and veg.
Fiber is just a type of carbohydrate. It is not a separate thing.
I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic or if you actually believe that.
Sorry, what macro do you think veggies are? Fat? Protein? Alcohol? They are carbohydrates. True story.
There is no such thing as a "no carb" diet. It's low carb. The foundation of every low carb diet is vegetables and some fruits. Did you actually think there were people running around eating nothing but bacon and cheese?0 -
laineymummy wrote: »No! A major food group should not be cut out from anyone's diet. Its unsustainable and extremely unhealthy. Your body needs carbs, its the main food group that gives you energy. Just limit processed carbs and eat complex carbs, limit meat and dairy. Cut out saturated fat, eat good fats. Simple changes have a big impact over time. Its not gonna happen over night. Any diet that claims really fast initial weight loss will just be water weight you lose not fat ....
Actually when I eat carbs it sucks all my energy and makes me feel sluggish and bloated. I feel great at a low carb/sugar level0 -
A person who doesn't eat meat or at least limits it tends to have a lower BMI and also meats and dairy products don't do much for the body except clog up arteries! Nothing wrong with carbs as long as you calorie count!
BMI's need to go away. We shouldn't use them at all as they are not accurate for anything. Lou Ferrigno is labelled as very overweight or obese according to his BMI. You want to go tell him he's fat because his BMI says so?0 -
Carb malabsorption and insulin resistance, possibly.laineymummy wrote: »No! A major food group should not be cut out from anyone's diet. Its unsustainable and extremely unhealthy. Your body needs carbs, its the main food group that gives you energy. Just limit processed carbs and eat complex carbs, limit meat and dairy. Cut out saturated fat, eat good fats. Simple changes have a big impact over time. Its not gonna happen over night. Any diet that claims really fast initial weight loss will just be water weight you lose not fat ....
Actually when I eat carbs it sucks all my energy and makes me feel sluggish and bloated. I feel great at a low carb/sugar level
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neanderthin wrote: »
Carb malabsorption and insulin resistance, possibly.laineymummy wrote: »No! A major food group should not be cut out from anyone's diet. Its unsustainable and extremely unhealthy. Your body needs carbs, its the main food group that gives you energy. Just limit processed carbs and eat complex carbs, limit meat and dairy. Cut out saturated fat, eat good fats. Simple changes have a big impact over time. Its not gonna happen over night. Any diet that claims really fast initial weight loss will just be water weight you lose not fat ....
Actually when I eat carbs it sucks all my energy and makes me feel sluggish and bloated. I feel great at a low carb/sugar level
I get the farts from fruity, wheaty or vegetably carbs. I guess you could say I get the fruity tooties. What is that a result of?
As soon as I cut carbs from my diet, or rather 90-95% of them, the farts go away. Honestly, that is one of the main reasons I like to do it, besides all the bacon, avocados and cheese. I have a lot of sex, and if you have ever had the farts during sex, you know that it kinda sucks. So, peripherally, if not directly, low carb/keto improves my sex life.0 -
Might I suggest a Paleo lifestyle ? Low carbs (no breads, rice, oats etc) you still get carbs from other things you eat. It concentrates on high amounts of lean protien and healthy fats. I've been on this "caveman diet" for several months now and I feel absolutely amazing. Cutting carbs was the best thing for me. I hope you can find a way of at least cutting the carbs. Best of luck to you !
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The American Heart Association reports that Americans eat 2 to 3x more protein than we need. I recently adjusted my macros on MFP to aim for 10% protein (instead of their default 20%) and I transferred that extra 10% to carbs (for a total of 60%), aiming for at least 50% of that in complex carbs (such as whole grains).
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Carbs are your body's preferred source of energy. If you switch to a low carb diet, your body will adapt in a couple weeks and learn to use protein and fats for energy. At that point you should no longer feel like crap. Much. But what's the point of putting your body through that? Unless you have a medical condition or if you have no need of energy (completely sedentary lifestyle), you were built to eat carbs.
Yes we were built to eat carbs, or at least our body was built to utilize carbs. But as our body has a very limited ability to store carbs and any carbs it does eat needs to be used immediately or placed in limited storage within the muscles and liver i would question if carbs were designed to be our main energy source.
Now ketones, via adipose tissue - we have an abundance of this stuff.0 -
herrspoons wrote: »tennisdude2004 wrote: »Carbs are your body's preferred source of energy. If you switch to a low carb diet, your body will adapt in a couple weeks and learn to use protein and fats for energy. At that point you should no longer feel like crap. Much. But what's the point of putting your body through that? Unless you have a medical condition or if you have no need of energy (completely sedentary lifestyle), you were built to eat carbs.
Yes we were built to eat carbs, or at least our body was built to utilize carbs. But as our body has a very limited ability to store carbs and any carbs it does eat needs to be used immediately or placed in limited storage within the muscles and liver i would question if carbs were designed to be our main energy source.
Now ketones, via adipose tissue - we have an abundance of this stuff.
Nothing was designed. We did, however, evolve to use carbs as our main energy source. The absorptive and post absorptive stages of digestion should tell you why.
I disagree we 'evolved' to use carbs as our main source. our preferred source of instant energy yes, but main source no.
As we have been evolving for millions of years and carbs (globally) have only been the main stay of our diets for the last 10,000 years I'm not sure your theory stacks up.
Still you are entitled to you thoughts.
Not sure what your point about post digestive absorption is - the fact that as humans we absorb the energy from carbs inefficiently compared to fat and protein???
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herrspoons wrote: »tennisdude2004 wrote: »herrspoons wrote: »tennisdude2004 wrote: »Carbs are your body's preferred source of energy. If you switch to a low carb diet, your body will adapt in a couple weeks and learn to use protein and fats for energy. At that point you should no longer feel like crap. Much. But what's the point of putting your body through that? Unless you have a medical condition or if you have no need of energy (completely sedentary lifestyle), you were built to eat carbs.
Yes we were built to eat carbs, or at least our body was built to utilize carbs. But as our body has a very limited ability to store carbs and any carbs it does eat needs to be used immediately or placed in limited storage within the muscles and liver i would question if carbs were designed to be our main energy source.
Now ketones, via adipose tissue - we have an abundance of this stuff.
Nothing was designed. We did, however, evolve to use carbs as our main energy source. The absorptive and post absorptive stages of digestion should tell you why.
I disagree we 'evolved' to use carbs as our main source. our preferred source of instant energy yes, but main source no.
As we have been evolving for millions of years and carbs (globally) have only been the main stay of our diets for the last 10,000 years I'm not sure your theory stacks up.
Still you are entitled to you thoughts.
Err... I think you'll find organisms have been feeding on simple sugars, which are carbs, for about a billion years. In addition, plant material had constituted about 80-90% of primate diets for the last few million.
Still, you're entitled to your opinion just as I'm entitled to laugh at it.
In which part of the world was that 80 -90 % northern Europe???
I think you will find civilization has evolved to adapt and flourish on its local environment.
I'm sure my ancestors in Northern Europe didn't have the same diet as their counterparts living near the equator did - unless you have proof to the contrary.
Still I'm sure you are not ignorant enough to assume that globally we evolved on the same diets over the past several million years.
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herrspoons wrote: »tennisdude2004 wrote: »herrspoons wrote: »tennisdude2004 wrote: »herrspoons wrote: »tennisdude2004 wrote: »Carbs are your body's preferred source of energy. If you switch to a low carb diet, your body will adapt in a couple weeks and learn to use protein and fats for energy. At that point you should no longer feel like crap. Much. But what's the point of putting your body through that? Unless you have a medical condition or if you have no need of energy (completely sedentary lifestyle), you were built to eat carbs.
Yes we were built to eat carbs, or at least our body was built to utilize carbs. But as our body has a very limited ability to store carbs and any carbs it does eat needs to be used immediately or placed in limited storage within the muscles and liver i would question if carbs were designed to be our main energy source.
Now ketones, via adipose tissue - we have an abundance of this stuff.
Nothing was designed. We did, however, evolve to use carbs as our main energy source. The absorptive and post absorptive stages of digestion should tell you why.
I disagree we 'evolved' to use carbs as our main source. our preferred source of instant energy yes, but main source no.
As we have been evolving for millions of years and carbs (globally) have only been the main stay of our diets for the last 10,000 years I'm not sure your theory stacks up.
Still you are entitled to you thoughts.
Err... I think you'll find organisms have been feeding on simple sugars, which are carbs, for about a billion years. In addition, plant material had constituted about 80-90% of primate diets for the last few million.
Still, you're entitled to your opinion just as I'm entitled to laugh at it.
In which part of the world was that 80 -90 % northern Europe???
I think you will find civilization has evolved to adapt and flourish on its local environment.
I'm sure my ancestors in Northern Europe didn't have the same diet as their counterparts living near the equator did - unless you have proof the contrary.
Still I'm sure you are not ignorant enough to assume that globally we evolved on the same diets over the past several million years.
Hmm... You're not getting the evolution and millions of years things, are you?
So our bodies have evolved to survive with the ability to live with no dietary carbs, yet dietary carbs have for billions of years been abundant in our diets and our main source of food???
Why would we evolve to survive without dietary carbs if we've always had them - that does confuse me.
Maybe you can explain it?0 -
herrspoons wrote: »tennisdude2004 wrote: »herrspoons wrote: »tennisdude2004 wrote: »herrspoons wrote: »tennisdude2004 wrote: »herrspoons wrote: »tennisdude2004 wrote: »Carbs are your body's preferred source of energy. If you switch to a low carb diet, your body will adapt in a couple weeks and learn to use protein and fats for energy. At that point you should no longer feel like crap. Much. But what's the point of putting your body through that? Unless you have a medical condition or if you have no need of energy (completely sedentary lifestyle), you were built to eat carbs.
Yes we were built to eat carbs, or at least our body was built to utilize carbs. But as our body has a very limited ability to store carbs and any carbs it does eat needs to be used immediately or placed in limited storage within the muscles and liver i would question if carbs were designed to be our main energy source.
Now ketones, via adipose tissue - we have an abundance of this stuff.
Nothing was designed. We did, however, evolve to use carbs as our main energy source. The absorptive and post absorptive stages of digestion should tell you why.
I disagree we 'evolved' to use carbs as our main source. our preferred source of instant energy yes, but main source no.
As we have been evolving for millions of years and carbs (globally) have only been the main stay of our diets for the last 10,000 years I'm not sure your theory stacks up.
Still you are entitled to you thoughts.
Err... I think you'll find organisms have been feeding on simple sugars, which are carbs, for about a billion years. In addition, plant material had constituted about 80-90% of primate diets for the last few million.
Still, you're entitled to your opinion just as I'm entitled to laugh at it.
In which part of the world was that 80 -90 % northern Europe???
I think you will find civilization has evolved to adapt and flourish on its local environment.
I'm sure my ancestors in Northern Europe didn't have the same diet as their counterparts living near the equator did - unless you have proof the contrary.
Still I'm sure you are not ignorant enough to assume that globally we evolved on the same diets over the past several million years.
Hmm... You're not getting the evolution and millions of years things, are you?
So our bodies have evolved to survive with the ability to live with no dietary carbs, yet dietary carbs have for billions of years been abundant in our diets and our main source of food???
Why would we evolve to survive without dietary carbs if we've always had them - that does confuse me.
Maybe you can explain it?
Nope. You're really not getting this.
Then explain it - you haven't so far! you just keep saying nope you haven't got it, its as though you don't have the answer.
I won't hold my breath.
I'll just expect another - fob off response (but go on do something special, surprise me).
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best of luck to you with whatever decision you make!0
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herrspoons wrote: »tennisdude2004 wrote: »herrspoons wrote: »tennisdude2004 wrote: »herrspoons wrote: »tennisdude2004 wrote: »herrspoons wrote: »tennisdude2004 wrote: »herrspoons wrote: »tennisdude2004 wrote: »Carbs are your body's preferred source of energy. If you switch to a low carb diet, your body will adapt in a couple weeks and learn to use protein and fats for energy. At that point you should no longer feel like crap. Much. But what's the point of putting your body through that? Unless you have a medical condition or if you have no need of energy (completely sedentary lifestyle), you were built to eat carbs.
Yes we were built to eat carbs, or at least our body was built to utilize carbs. But as our body has a very limited ability to store carbs and any carbs it does eat needs to be used immediately or placed in limited storage within the muscles and liver i would question if carbs were designed to be our main energy source.
Now ketones, via adipose tissue - we have an abundance of this stuff.
Nothing was designed. We did, however, evolve to use carbs as our main energy source. The absorptive and post absorptive stages of digestion should tell you why.
I disagree we 'evolved' to use carbs as our main source. our preferred source of instant energy yes, but main source no.
As we have been evolving for millions of years and carbs (globally) have only been the main stay of our diets for the last 10,000 years I'm not sure your theory stacks up.
Still you are entitled to you thoughts.
Err... I think you'll find organisms have been feeding on simple sugars, which are carbs, for about a billion years. In addition, plant material had constituted about 80-90% of primate diets for the last few million.
Still, you're entitled to your opinion just as I'm entitled to laugh at it.
In which part of the world was that 80 -90 % northern Europe???
I think you will find civilization has evolved to adapt and flourish on its local environment.
I'm sure my ancestors in Northern Europe didn't have the same diet as their counterparts living near the equator did - unless you have proof the contrary.
Still I'm sure you are not ignorant enough to assume that globally we evolved on the same diets over the past several million years.
Hmm... You're not getting the evolution and millions of years things, are you?
So our bodies have evolved to survive with the ability to live with no dietary carbs, yet dietary carbs have for billions of years been abundant in our diets and our main source of food???
Why would we evolve to survive without dietary carbs if we've always had them - that does confuse me.
Maybe you can explain it?
Nope. You're really not getting this.
Then explain it - you haven't so far! you just keep saying nope you haven't got it, its as though you don't have the answer.
I won't hold my breath.
I'll just expect another - fob off response (but go on do something special, surprise me).
Sorry, I can't be bothered with your usual passive aggressive trolling, chief.
Yep, you don't disappoint - a simple you don't have the answer would have sufficed.
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lemurcat12 wrote: »Unnecessary, but try it and see if you like it.
I found cutting carbs to a higher (non ketosis) level worked for me (100 or so, now 150 or less), but mine weren't super high to start with and I don't tend to adore carb staples like rice. If you are cutting out foods you love it seems like it would be more challenging and perhaps not sustainable, but see how you feel if interested.
All of this. And the best answers luckily are on the first page before all the bickering broke out.0 -
I cut carbs from over 250+g a day to about 100 or under a day. I have lost 5lbs the first week, and feel amazing. I still eat carbs and fruit...but i took out bread and pasta and rice. I did make a point to add protein. It really does give you more energy. You can try things like this without it being called a fad diet. You need to try different things to find what works for you.0
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OP should totally try it.0
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