Calorie dense clean food?
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if you were going to have milk I don't see why you couldn't also have cheese, cottage cheese, etc.0
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Nuts are going to be the easiest to increase your calories with. Nutrient dense and generally high calorie. Legumes (beans) are also good, but not as high calorie for the protein/fiber content as nuts. Also, you should really be putting some meats in rotation. You don't normally get much creatine in nuts or beans and I'm sure you'd rather get it naturally than with some powder.
but who wants to bulk on nuts and beans?????
much easier to incorporate ice cream, bagels, full fat butter, cream cheese, cottage cheese, and yogurt, cookies, etc...
Okay, so we put her on a strict GOMAD with buttermilk instead of whole, or do we want to go whole hog and have her do condensed?
I think she wanted a few more calories not 10K, but I could be wrong!
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Please post recent research/evidence showing saturated fats as cause/direct relation to short or long term health concerns.0 -
beastcompany wrote: »Eating "junk foods" will not affect the quality of your bulk.
An individual who is eating "clean" but in a 1,000+ calorie surplus daily is going to gain more fat in their bulk than a person who eats "Junk" but only has a 250 calorie surplus daily.
but clean????0 -
_Terrapin_ wrote: »What are your goals? How much weight do you wish to gain? I think there are plenty of calorie dense foods you can use in daily consumption. You can add fish, scallops, shrimp, bacon(yes protein and fat and it tastes damn good), beans and rice, vegetables of any color. For me personally, if I want to widen my caloric window, I exercise a little more and use less nutrient dense foods(20% or close) as well as nutrient dense foods(about 80% or close to it). Make sense?
hey, i, 5'7 foot and 8.4 stone. i want to get to 9.5. n yup. it totally made sense. i struggle mainly with protein as i rarely eat fish or meat. i do however drink milk and eat eggs but it isn't enough0 -
madiha1397 wrote: »_Terrapin_ wrote: »What are your goals? How much weight do you wish to gain? I think there are plenty of calorie dense foods you can use in daily consumption. You can add fish, scallops, shrimp, bacon(yes protein and fat and it tastes damn good), beans and rice, vegetables of any color. For me personally, if I want to widen my caloric window, I exercise a little more and use less nutrient dense foods(20% or close) as well as nutrient dense foods(about 80% or close to it). Make sense?
hey, i, 5'7 foot and 8.4 stone. i want to get to 9.5. n yup. it totally made sense. i struggle mainly with protein as i rarely eat fish or meat. i do however drink milk and eat eggs but it isn't enough
ice cream...the answer is always ice cream...0 -
Wheelhouse15 wrote: »Wheelhouse15 wrote: »Good fatty red meats, for example: lamb shank, full-fat beef mince (or whatever they call it in your country), rib-eye steak.
You'll find some higher fat meats like mutton, pork shoulder, and braise steak are great slow cookers that produce fantastically tasty dishes and are melt-in-the-mouth with the addition of a few herbs/stock/spices.
Plenty of butter. Lots of butter.
Butter a steak and that's win-win!
For sure!
agreed…
however, I don't think that is going to be clean enough for OP
Clean really means whatever the person declaiming it says it means.
In that it doesn't mean much at all.
But raw meat, raised in a way that pleases the person and cooked simply with a few quality ingredients can't offend even the staunchest of cleanies, can it?
In most definitions of "clean" a solid cut of meat, particularly if raised to certain standards like grass-fed, and hormone/antibitoic free would qualify but not to a person using a plant-based definition.
once you add the butter it is then a dirty, dirty, thing….
Surely butter churned from the milk of the same cow you were willing to fry would still be ok? OP did say they were already having milk (or did I misread that?)
she did not list butter…she listed olive oil so I guses butter would be OK …
I would say yes, but I eat everything and anything in moderation …i just focus on hitting calorie/micro/macro targets….
would that be OK for OP …I guess we will see if she comes back..there are a million different definitions of clean, none of which I adhere too
you guys guessed right. butter and stuff is fine. by 'clean' i simply meant whole food rather than processed food or takeaway or tonnes of cakes and crisps or chocolate and things...
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madiha1397 wrote: »_Terrapin_ wrote: »What are your goals? How much weight do you wish to gain? I think there are plenty of calorie dense foods you can use in daily consumption. You can add fish, scallops, shrimp, bacon(yes protein and fat and it tastes damn good), beans and rice, vegetables of any color. For me personally, if I want to widen my caloric window, I exercise a little more and use less nutrient dense foods(20% or close) as well as nutrient dense foods(about 80% or close to it). Make sense?
hey, i, 5'7 foot and 8.4 stone. i want to get to 9.5. n yup. it totally made sense. i struggle mainly with protein as i rarely eat fish or meat. i do however drink milk and eat eggs but it isn't enough
ice cream...the answer is always ice cream...
i guess i could live with icecream, hehehe 0 -
madiha1397 wrote: »madiha1397 wrote: »_Terrapin_ wrote: »What are your goals? How much weight do you wish to gain? I think there are plenty of calorie dense foods you can use in daily consumption. You can add fish, scallops, shrimp, bacon(yes protein and fat and it tastes damn good), beans and rice, vegetables of any color. For me personally, if I want to widen my caloric window, I exercise a little more and use less nutrient dense foods(20% or close) as well as nutrient dense foods(about 80% or close to it). Make sense?
hey, i, 5'7 foot and 8.4 stone. i want to get to 9.5. n yup. it totally made sense. i struggle mainly with protein as i rarely eat fish or meat. i do however drink milk and eat eggs but it isn't enough
ice cream...the answer is always ice cream...
i guess i could live with icecream, hehehe
we can all use more ice cream in our lives...0 -
madiha1397 wrote: »Wheelhouse15 wrote: »Wheelhouse15 wrote: »Good fatty red meats, for example: lamb shank, full-fat beef mince (or whatever they call it in your country), rib-eye steak.
You'll find some higher fat meats like mutton, pork shoulder, and braise steak are great slow cookers that produce fantastically tasty dishes and are melt-in-the-mouth with the addition of a few herbs/stock/spices.
Plenty of butter. Lots of butter.
Butter a steak and that's win-win!
For sure!
agreed…
however, I don't think that is going to be clean enough for OP
Clean really means whatever the person declaiming it says it means.
In that it doesn't mean much at all.
But raw meat, raised in a way that pleases the person and cooked simply with a few quality ingredients can't offend even the staunchest of cleanies, can it?
In most definitions of "clean" a solid cut of meat, particularly if raised to certain standards like grass-fed, and hormone/antibitoic free would qualify but not to a person using a plant-based definition.
once you add the butter it is then a dirty, dirty, thing….
Surely butter churned from the milk of the same cow you were willing to fry would still be ok? OP did say they were already having milk (or did I misread that?)
she did not list butter…she listed olive oil so I guses butter would be OK …
I would say yes, but I eat everything and anything in moderation …i just focus on hitting calorie/micro/macro targets….
would that be OK for OP …I guess we will see if she comes back..there are a million different definitions of clean, none of which I adhere too
you guys guessed right. butter and stuff is fine. by 'clean' i simply meant whole food rather than processed food or takeaway or tonnes of cakes and crisps or chocolate and things...
I would say continue to eat the whole foods like chicken, fish, rice, vegetables...but to gain weight mix in some ice cream, bagels, pasta, cookies, etc. Just make sure that you hit your macro/micro/calorie goal...
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OP if you want "clean" foods, just don't eat off the floor. /End thread. 0
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When I want a lot of calories on the run but don't want a candy bar I'll sometimes grab a package of seaseme seeds that are basically just seeds and honey. It has a decent amount of calories from fat and carbs and probably would pass as being minimally processed.0
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Surely butter churned from the milk of the same cow you were willing to fry would still be ok? OP did say they were already having milk (or did I misread that?)
Oh, my, no. There's a specific prohibition against that in a kosher diet.
Do not cook a young goat in its mother’s milk. - Deuteronomy 14:21
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If dairy is out, there's always EVOO.0
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I see dairy is in! Yay! To avoid processed ice-cream, you can always make your own. That way you can make sure it stays under five ingredients.
http://www.southernliving.com/food/entertaining/homemade-ice-cream-recipes0 -
I see dairy is in! Yay! To avoid processed ice-cream, you can always make your own. That way you can make sure it stays under five ingredients.
http://www.southernliving.com/food/entertaining/homemade-ice-cream-recipes
Mmmm that sounds great 0 -
I see dairy is in! Yay! To avoid processed ice-cream, you can always make your own. That way you can make sure it stays under five ingredients.
http://www.southernliving.com/food/entertaining/homemade-ice-cream-recipes
if you make it home you still process it right?0 -
I see dairy is in! Yay! To avoid processed ice-cream, you can always make your own. That way you can make sure it stays under five ingredients.
http://www.southernliving.com/food/entertaining/homemade-ice-cream-recipes
Pro-tip-- add about an oz of liquor to keep your ice cream from freezing rock hard.
eta: that might make it less "clean," but it definitely improves the creaminess.0 -
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ILiftHeavyAcrylics wrote: »I see dairy is in! Yay! To avoid processed ice-cream, you can always make your own. That way you can make sure it stays under five ingredients.
http://www.southernliving.com/food/entertaining/homemade-ice-cream-recipes
Pro-tip-- add about an oz of liquor to keep your ice cream from freezing rock hard.
eta: that might make it less "clean," but it definitely improves the creaminess.
I think alcohol steralizes right? 0 -
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Wheelhouse15 wrote: »ILiftHeavyAcrylics wrote: »I see dairy is in! Yay! To avoid processed ice-cream, you can always make your own. That way you can make sure it stays under five ingredients.
http://www.southernliving.com/food/entertaining/homemade-ice-cream-recipes
Pro-tip-- add about an oz of liquor to keep your ice cream from freezing rock hard.
eta: that might make it less "clean," but it definitely improves the creaminess.
I think alcohol steralizes right?
Egg-zactly. 0 -
madiha1397 wrote: »Besides egg, milk, peanut butter, olive oil, avocados and bananas which other clean calorie dense and nutrient dense foods are there? I don't want to fuel up on junk because I think it's counter productive. #NeedToIncreaseMyCalories thanks guys
Meat, oily fish, coconut, butter, double cream are a few.
But it's not counterproductive to add some 'junk'. It's actually very helpful, if you've hit your micros/macros and are just too damn full to squeeze in more chicken and brocolli, a wee portion of icecream or whatever can make for an easier/happier life.
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If it's freezing that hard, have you considered adding more sugar to your recipe? That's supposed to be a contributing factor to texture.ILiftHeavyAcrylics wrote: »Pro-tip-- add about an oz of liquor to keep your ice cream from freezing rock hard.
madiha1397, I'd recommend halloumi fried in butter. Delicious.
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madiha1397 wrote: »Besides egg, milk, peanut butter, olive oil, avocados and bananas which other clean calorie dense and nutrient dense foods are there? I don't want to fuel up on junk because I think it's counter productive. #NeedToIncreaseMyCalories thanks guys
I use pasta, put some veggies, olives, load that up and meet my cals, but most importantly, do what you feel is right for your body, eat foods that don't make you feel bloated, sluggish, if ice cream is your thing then do it, if not you could always eat a lot more veggies and fruits that will sustain you longer then processed foods, keep it simple, the calorie counter on here seems pretty good,0 -
madiha1397 wrote: »_Terrapin_ wrote: »What are your goals? How much weight do you wish to gain? I think there are plenty of calorie dense foods you can use in daily consumption. You can add fish, scallops, shrimp, bacon(yes protein and fat and it tastes damn good), beans and rice, vegetables of any color. For me personally, if I want to widen my caloric window, I exercise a little more and use less nutrient dense foods(20% or close) as well as nutrient dense foods(about 80% or close to it). Make sense?
hey, i, 5'7 foot and 8.4 stone. i want to get to 9.5. n yup. it totally made sense. i struggle mainly with protein as i rarely eat fish or meat. i do however drink milk and eat eggs but it isn't enough
So 113 pounds to 133 pounds....brain math, early this AM, so hopefully this is close. @ndj1979 I think I understand what you were saying earlier in the thread so OP---yes to ice cream(easy to add cals with this), also since I'm hungry, and these can be for breakfast- - - -> Protein powdered pumpkin pancakes with(here in the US) a 1/3 of a cup of Hungry Jack(dry). Recipe is simple with pumpkin puree, 2 eggs or egg whites, a little cinnamon, vanilla extract, pumpkin spice, and 2 scoops( 1 serving) of whey vanilla protein powder. Add maple syrup and butter and you have about 450 calories. They are somewhat sticky, gooey little suckers, and come out flat and small. But the taste and calories offset any aesthetic issue from the eye(IMO).0 -
lucygoesrawr wrote: »
If it's freezing that hard, have you considered adding more sugar to your recipe? That's supposed to be a contributing factor to texture.ILiftHeavyAcrylics wrote: »Pro-tip-- add about an oz of liquor to keep your ice cream from freezing rock hard.
madiha1397, I'd recommend halloumi fried in butter. Delicious.
Mine wasn't so hard that I couldn't scoop it but I'm used to Talenti gelato now so I'm kinda spoiled on texture. But maybe I will try that next time-- it's not exactly ice cream weather.
Also why would you take away my excuse to add liquor? :laugh:0
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