Low Carb diet worth it?

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  • Jolinia
    Jolinia Posts: 846 Member
    edited February 2015
    One person, maybe an outlier, but her health and fitness certainly don't seem to be suffering after many years in ketosis.

    https://www.youtube.com/user/fitsk8chick
  • JPW1990
    JPW1990 Posts: 2,424 Member
    Jolinia wrote: »
    One person, maybe an outlier, but her health and fitness certainly don't seem to be suffering after many years in ketosis.

    https://www.youtube.com/user/fitsk8chick

    There are plenty of examples, really, but I suspect the people arguing don't really want to see them. Reddit has a community specifically for doing keto while lifting or doing serious athletics, and it has about 18k subscribers. I considered posting the link, but I doubt they want a troll invasion. The info is out there for those who want to find it.
  • arussell134
    arussell134 Posts: 463 Member
    My experience on low carb was very bad. I love bread & carbs so for me it was very difficult to give it up and at the end of the low carb diet, I started binging and gained more than I lost.

    I finally had success reaching and maintaining my weight loss goal just eating less calories and including carbs. Also, I couldn't imagine going back to low carb given my activity level. Currently running between 20-30 miles per week and looking to up this gradually over the year. My running suffers when I don't eat a good portion of carbs.

    Personally, I will be glad when the low carb fad goes the way of past fads. I totally believe there is room for them in a healthy diet.
  • Jolinia
    Jolinia Posts: 846 Member
    JPW1990 wrote: »
    Jolinia wrote: »
    One person, maybe an outlier, but her health and fitness certainly don't seem to be suffering after many years in ketosis.

    https://www.youtube.com/user/fitsk8chick

    There are plenty of examples, really, but I suspect the people arguing don't really want to see them. Reddit has a community specifically for doing keto while lifting or doing serious athletics, and it has about 18k subscribers. I considered posting the link, but I doubt they want a troll invasion. The info is out there for those who want to find it.

    This is why I think OP should just try it and see. If it doesn't work, it's not a personal failure, it's just that it doesn't work for everyone. If it does work, great.
  • sannaf36
    sannaf36 Posts: 19 Member
    When I tried low carb dieting, it made me feel weak and moody and as a result, once I went back to eating carbs regularly, I was craving them more t
    My experience on low carb was very bad. I love bread & carbs so for me it was very difficult to give it up and at the end of the low carb diet, I started binging and gained more than I lost.

    I finally had success reaching and maintaining my weight loss goal just eating less calories and including carbs. Also, I couldn't imagine going back to low carb given my activity level. Currently running between 20-30 miles per week and looking to up this gradually over the year. My running suffers when I don't eat a good portion of carbs.

    Personally, I will be glad when the low carb fad goes the way of past fads. I totally believe there is room for them in a healthy diet.

    I absolutely agree. I never had an issue with binging and only after going on a low carb diet (unsuccessfully
  • JPW1990
    JPW1990 Posts: 2,424 Member
    My experience on low carb was very bad. I love bread & carbs so for me it was very difficult to give it up and at the end of the low carb diet, I started binging and gained more than I lost.

    I finally had success reaching and maintaining my weight loss goal just eating less calories and including carbs. Also, I couldn't imagine going back to low carb given my activity level. Currently running between 20-30 miles per week and looking to up this gradually over the year. My running suffers when I don't eat a good portion of carbs.

    Personally, I will be glad when the low carb fad goes the way of past fads. I totally believe there is room for them in a healthy diet.

    It's been around since the 1920's, I suggest you not hold your breath.
  • LolBroScience
    LolBroScience Posts: 4,537 Member
    JPW1990 wrote: »
    Jolinia wrote: »
    One person, maybe an outlier, but her health and fitness certainly don't seem to be suffering after many years in ketosis.

    https://www.youtube.com/user/fitsk8chick

    There are plenty of examples, really, but I suspect the people arguing don't really want to see them. Reddit has a community specifically for doing keto while lifting or doing serious athletics, and it has about 18k subscribers. I considered posting the link, but I doubt they want a troll invasion. The info is out there for those who want to find it.

    Is it the link that is in your profile? If so, can you link specifically to the threads pertaining to long-term success for serious lifters and athletes?
  • Iron_Feline
    Iron_Feline Posts: 10,750 Member
    JPW1990 wrote: »
    Jolinia wrote: »
    One person, maybe an outlier, but her health and fitness certainly don't seem to be suffering after many years in ketosis.

    https://www.youtube.com/user/fitsk8chick

    There are plenty of examples, really, but I suspect the people arguing don't really want to see them. Reddit has a community specifically for doing keto while lifting or doing serious athletics, and it has about 18k subscribers. I considered posting the link, but I doubt they want a troll invasion. The info is out there for those who want to find it.

    Ah the common call of a bird that can't back up his/her claims.
  • JPW1990
    JPW1990 Posts: 2,424 Member
    JPW1990 wrote: »
    Jolinia wrote: »
    One person, maybe an outlier, but her health and fitness certainly don't seem to be suffering after many years in ketosis.

    https://www.youtube.com/user/fitsk8chick

    There are plenty of examples, really, but I suspect the people arguing don't really want to see them. Reddit has a community specifically for doing keto while lifting or doing serious athletics, and it has about 18k subscribers. I considered posting the link, but I doubt they want a troll invasion. The info is out there for those who want to find it.

    Ah the common call of a bird that can't back up his/her claims.

    18,874 readers

    Like I said, the info is easy enough to find for those who aren't too lazy or too biased to seek it out.
  • JPW1990
    JPW1990 Posts: 2,424 Member
    JPW1990 wrote: »
    Jolinia wrote: »
    One person, maybe an outlier, but her health and fitness certainly don't seem to be suffering after many years in ketosis.

    https://www.youtube.com/user/fitsk8chick

    There are plenty of examples, really, but I suspect the people arguing don't really want to see them. Reddit has a community specifically for doing keto while lifting or doing serious athletics, and it has about 18k subscribers. I considered posting the link, but I doubt they want a troll invasion. The info is out there for those who want to find it.

    Is it the link that is in your profile? If so, can you link specifically to the threads pertaining to long-term success for serious lifters and athletes?

    Nope, I have no interest in lifting. I am aware of its existence because I am capable of researching something before I spout off about it.
  • Jolinia
    Jolinia Posts: 846 Member
    JPW1990 wrote: »
    My experience on low carb was very bad. I love bread & carbs so for me it was very difficult to give it up and at the end of the low carb diet, I started binging and gained more than I lost.

    I finally had success reaching and maintaining my weight loss goal just eating less calories and including carbs. Also, I couldn't imagine going back to low carb given my activity level. Currently running between 20-30 miles per week and looking to up this gradually over the year. My running suffers when I don't eat a good portion of carbs.

    Personally, I will be glad when the low carb fad goes the way of past fads. I totally believe there is room for them in a healthy diet.

    It's been around since the 1920's, I suggest you not hold your breath.

    1800s actually. :)

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Banting
  • LolBroScience
    LolBroScience Posts: 4,537 Member
    edited February 2015
    JPW1990 wrote: »
    JPW1990 wrote: »
    Jolinia wrote: »
    One person, maybe an outlier, but her health and fitness certainly don't seem to be suffering after many years in ketosis.

    https://www.youtube.com/user/fitsk8chick

    There are plenty of examples, really, but I suspect the people arguing don't really want to see them. Reddit has a community specifically for doing keto while lifting or doing serious athletics, and it has about 18k subscribers. I considered posting the link, but I doubt they want a troll invasion. The info is out there for those who want to find it.

    Is it the link that is in your profile? If so, can you link specifically to the threads pertaining to long-term success for serious lifters and athletes?

    Nope, I have no interest in lifting. I am aware of its existence because I am capable of researching something before I spout off about it.

    Should perhaps check out Strength & Conditioning Research, JISSN, and PubMed since the vast majority of data out there points to decline in athletic performance through ketogenic diets over a period of time.

    Especially when you compare ketogenic athletes against thought with high to moderate carb intakes.
  • eric_sg61
    eric_sg61 Posts: 2,925 Member
    JPW1990 wrote: »
    JPW1990 wrote: »
    Jolinia wrote: »
    One person, maybe an outlier, but her health and fitness certainly don't seem to be suffering after many years in ketosis.

    https://www.youtube.com/user/fitsk8chick

    There are plenty of examples, really, but I suspect the people arguing don't really want to see them. Reddit has a community specifically for doing keto while lifting or doing serious athletics, and it has about 18k subscribers. I considered posting the link, but I doubt they want a troll invasion. The info is out there for those who want to find it.

    Is it the link that is in your profile? If so, can you link specifically to the threads pertaining to long-term success for serious lifters and athletes?

    Nope, I have no interest in lifting. I am aware of its existence because I am capable of researching something before I spout off about it.

    Should perhaps check out Strength & Conditioning Research, JISSN, and PubMed since the vast majority of data out there points to decline in athletic performance through ketogenic diets over a period of time.

    Yep
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  • Jolinia
    Jolinia Posts: 846 Member
    eric_sg61 wrote: »
    JPW1990 wrote: »
    JPW1990 wrote: »
    Jolinia wrote: »
    One person, maybe an outlier, but her health and fitness certainly don't seem to be suffering after many years in ketosis.

    https://www.youtube.com/user/fitsk8chick

    There are plenty of examples, really, but I suspect the people arguing don't really want to see them. Reddit has a community specifically for doing keto while lifting or doing serious athletics, and it has about 18k subscribers. I considered posting the link, but I doubt they want a troll invasion. The info is out there for those who want to find it.

    Is it the link that is in your profile? If so, can you link specifically to the threads pertaining to long-term success for serious lifters and athletes?

    Nope, I have no interest in lifting. I am aware of its existence because I am capable of researching something before I spout off about it.

    Should perhaps check out Strength & Conditioning Research, JISSN, and PubMed since the vast majority of data out there points to decline in athletic performance through ketogenic diets over a period of time.

    Yep
    B2gMfXDCIAA54Jd.png:large

    If that is the full list, I wouldn't call it 'vast majority'. Small majority, perhaps. Also, it can take several months to fully keto adapt, did they wait that long to start testing performance?

    That said, I absolutely think there are people who don't do well on low carb for whatever reason and I don't know of course what that percentage is.
  • LolBroScience
    LolBroScience Posts: 4,537 Member
    Jolinia wrote: »
    eric_sg61 wrote: »
    JPW1990 wrote: »
    JPW1990 wrote: »
    Jolinia wrote: »
    One person, maybe an outlier, but her health and fitness certainly don't seem to be suffering after many years in ketosis.

    https://www.youtube.com/user/fitsk8chick

    There are plenty of examples, really, but I suspect the people arguing don't really want to see them. Reddit has a community specifically for doing keto while lifting or doing serious athletics, and it has about 18k subscribers. I considered posting the link, but I doubt they want a troll invasion. The info is out there for those who want to find it.

    Is it the link that is in your profile? If so, can you link specifically to the threads pertaining to long-term success for serious lifters and athletes?

    Nope, I have no interest in lifting. I am aware of its existence because I am capable of researching something before I spout off about it.

    Should perhaps check out Strength & Conditioning Research, JISSN, and PubMed since the vast majority of data out there points to decline in athletic performance through ketogenic diets over a period of time.

    Yep
    B2gMfXDCIAA54Jd.png:large

    If that is the full list, I wouldn't call it 'vast majority'. Small majority, perhaps. Also, it can take several months to fully keto adapt, did they wait that long to start testing performance?

    That said, I absolutely think there are people who don't do well on low carb for whatever reason and I don't know of course what that percentage is.

    Read the studies
  • JPW1990
    JPW1990 Posts: 2,424 Member
    Can't seem to find an English version of the one from 1939, but I'm sure you have a link for it?
  • carolynmo1969
    carolynmo1969 Posts: 120 Member
    I've stopped eating white bread and flour. The carbs I eat are whole grain, mostly rice and quinoa and I find I can eat a larger and more satisying portion AND it keeps me feeling full. I am never hungry. Never.
  • LolBroScience
    LolBroScience Posts: 4,537 Member
    JPW1990 wrote: »
    Can't seem to find an English version of the one from 1939, but I'm sure you have a link for it?

    ayeeeeee library ftw
  • Honestly, like any lifestyle modification, give it a week and see how your body adapts, see if it works and if you like it. I tried keto for about 10 days once because a friend advised it. I loved it. I was always full and honestly had some amazing food. Then I went back to carbs and basically it was a cycle of addiction all over again. I'm back on it now, with an off day every now and then. I exercise just fine after my body adapted to it, so it's all on you! Best of luck!
  • JPW1990
    JPW1990 Posts: 2,424 Member
    JPW1990 wrote: »
    Can't seem to find an English version of the one from 1939, but I'm sure you have a link for it?

    ayeeeeee library ftw

    Why? I'm not the one putting it out there, surely, you've read it, you can at least give an overview - sample size, methodology, findings, right?
  • LolBroScience
    LolBroScience Posts: 4,537 Member
    JPW1990 wrote: »
    JPW1990 wrote: »
    Can't seem to find an English version of the one from 1939, but I'm sure you have a link for it?

    ayeeeeee library ftw

    Why? I'm not the one putting it out there, surely, you've read it, you can at least give an overview - sample size, methodology, findings, right?

    I'll provide that once you link to me to all the peer reviewed literature from reddit forum ;)
  • JPW1990
    JPW1990 Posts: 2,424 Member
    edited February 2015
    JPW1990 wrote: »
    JPW1990 wrote: »
    Can't seem to find an English version of the one from 1939, but I'm sure you have a link for it?

    ayeeeeee library ftw

    Why? I'm not the one putting it out there, surely, you've read it, you can at least give an overview - sample size, methodology, findings, right?

    I'll provide that once you link to me to all the peer reviewed literature from reddit forum ;)

    http://www.reddit.com/r/ketoscience/search?q=flair:'exercise'&sort=new&restrict_sr=on

    Yeah, so, anyway, your abstract?

    btw, those are only the ones tagged exercise specific, use the other tags in the sidebar if you want all the ones related to Biochemistry, Cholesterol, Diabetes, Epidemiology, General, Long-term,
    Nutrients, and Neurology
  • sweetteadrinker2
    sweetteadrinker2 Posts: 1,026 Member
    Personally it works for me, I like it's effects both on weightloss and on general well being. For me, keto is also used to treat a nervous system disorder. So keto flu and the difficulties of cooking keto is worthwhile as I've been able to decrease my medication on this diet. Different strokes for different folks.
  • LolBroScience
    LolBroScience Posts: 4,537 Member
    edited February 2015
    JPW1990 wrote: »
    JPW1990 wrote: »
    JPW1990 wrote: »
    Can't seem to find an English version of the one from 1939, but I'm sure you have a link for it?

    ayeeeeee library ftw

    Why? I'm not the one putting it out there, surely, you've read it, you can at least give an overview - sample size, methodology, findings, right?

    I'll provide that once you link to me to all the peer reviewed literature from reddit forum ;)

    http://www.reddit.com/r/ketoscience/search?q=flair:'exercise'&sort=new&restrict_sr=on

    Yeah, so, anyway, your abstract?

    btw, those are only the ones tagged exercise specific, use the other tags in the sidebar if you want all the ones related to Biochemistry, Cholesterol, Diabetes, Epidemiology, General, Long-term,
    Nutrients, and Neurology

    brb visiting local library to prove that carbs are beneficial for someone with no interest in lifting, athletics, or strength training.

    So far what I've seen is a handful of rat studies. Good thing they're athletic.

    My original argument was that oven long term, the studies indicated greater benefit for athletes on with a higher carb intake (I'm still going through the links but so far I see a 12 week study, a 3 week study, etc).
  • Mistyfied_MD
    Mistyfied_MD Posts: 62 Member
    The benefits of low carb diets are overhyped and exaggerated--but if you ignore the hype and look at the evidence, there ARE a lot of good reasons behind the concept. Just the extreme fad diets like Atkins are generally unnecessary.

    Mainly it's just a good idea to be mindful of insulin spikes and carb crashes, but eating a well balanced diet will eliminate a lot of unnecessary carbs anyway. The main issue that I see with our modern diet is it's so carb heavy in the mornings, which is when we're more insulin sensitive. Unless you're running a marathon after breakfast, you don't need a boatload of carbs first thing in the day.

    I keep a lower carb diet, nothing extreme. They comprise generally a third of my calories, no more than 40%. I have protein and fats for breakfast, keep processed sugary carbs to a minimum, and limit carb heavy meals like pasta to a once or twice a week thing. Pair carbs with protein and fats to slow absorption and avoid crashes. Just good sense. No need for a real 'diet' diet.
  • JPW1990
    JPW1990 Posts: 2,424 Member
    JPW1990 wrote: »
    JPW1990 wrote: »
    JPW1990 wrote: »
    Can't seem to find an English version of the one from 1939, but I'm sure you have a link for it?

    ayeeeeee library ftw

    Why? I'm not the one putting it out there, surely, you've read it, you can at least give an overview - sample size, methodology, findings, right?

    I'll provide that once you link to me to all the peer reviewed literature from reddit forum ;)

    http://www.reddit.com/r/ketoscience/search?q=flair:'exercise'&sort=new&restrict_sr=on

    Yeah, so, anyway, your abstract?

    btw, those are only the ones tagged exercise specific, use the other tags in the sidebar if you want all the ones related to Biochemistry, Cholesterol, Diabetes, Epidemiology, General, Long-term,
    Nutrients, and Neurology

    brb visiting local library to prove that carbs are beneficial for someone with no interest in lifting, athletics, or strength training.

    Don't forget it has to be in English, too.
  • LolBroScience
    LolBroScience Posts: 4,537 Member
    edited February 2015
    JPW1990 wrote: »
    JPW1990 wrote: »
    JPW1990 wrote: »
    JPW1990 wrote: »
    Can't seem to find an English version of the one from 1939, but I'm sure you have a link for it?

    ayeeeeee library ftw

    Why? I'm not the one putting it out there, surely, you've read it, you can at least give an overview - sample size, methodology, findings, right?

    I'll provide that once you link to me to all the peer reviewed literature from reddit forum ;)

    http://www.reddit.com/r/ketoscience/search?q=flair:'exercise'&sort=new&restrict_sr=on

    Yeah, so, anyway, your abstract?

    btw, those are only the ones tagged exercise specific, use the other tags in the sidebar if you want all the ones related to Biochemistry, Cholesterol, Diabetes, Epidemiology, General, Long-term,
    Nutrients, and Neurology

    brb visiting local library to prove that carbs are beneficial for someone with no interest in lifting, athletics, or strength training.

    Don't forget it has to be in English, too.

    See edited text above.

    Either way, my comment was tongue in cheek.

    I'm literally not going to go to the library to dig up a 1939 study, lmao.
  • kateangel2312
    kateangel2312 Posts: 242 Member
    I've tried the low carb thing, I couldn't put energy into my workouts so I vote no
  • becky841
    becky841 Posts: 7 Member
    I did low carbs for over a year. I reached my goal and it should have felt great, but I was too exhausted to enjoy it. My periods were all over the place, I was moody and ready for bed by 7pm. I will never do it again!
  • yarwell
    yarwell Posts: 10,477 Member
    herrspoons wrote: »
    Not sure what the argument is. Glucose will virtually always be metabolised quicker than stored fat.

    yep, you have to get any excess of that stuff out of the bloodstream to limit the damage it does.
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