Front squats Tips?
dwolfe1985
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Was taking a break from back squats so did some 95kg front squats to test it out as haven't really tried them and all i can say is wow they are uncomfortable! lol used the arms crossed method and its digging into my shoulders and windpipe to the extent i was going red faced even though the weight wasn't really a struggle. Anyone have some tips or is it just a case of getting used to it?
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That's just how they are. One thing you'll want to do is build some mass in your deltoids and traps. The stronger your shoulder girdle, the easier it is to hold that bar across your shoulders. As far as the windpipe problem, just get your air before you get the bar on your shoulders so you don't have to breathe much during your set.0
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dwolfe1985 wrote: »Was taking a break from back squats so did some 95kg front squats to test it out as haven't really tried them and all i can say is wow they are uncomfortable! lol used the arms crossed method and its digging into my shoulders and windpipe to the extent i was going red faced even though the weight wasn't really a struggle. Anyone have some tips or is it just a case of getting used to it?
You get used to it.0 -
dwolfe1985 wrote: »Was taking a break from back squats so did some 95kg front squats to test it out as haven't really tried them and all i can say is wow they are uncomfortable! lol used the arms crossed method and its digging into my shoulders and windpipe to the extent i was going red faced even though the weight wasn't really a struggle. Anyone have some tips or is it just a case of getting used to it?
I would suggest just using the bar until you get use to it, 95kg's is not exactly a "learning" weight. LOL0 -
Sam_I_Am77 wrote: »dwolfe1985 wrote: »Was taking a break from back squats so did some 95kg front squats to test it out as haven't really tried them and all i can say is wow they are uncomfortable! lol used the arms crossed method and its digging into my shoulders and windpipe to the extent i was going red faced even though the weight wasn't really a struggle. Anyone have some tips or is it just a case of getting used to it?
I would suggest just using the bar until you get use to it, 95kg's is not exactly a "learning" weight. LOL
this... seriously.
back down.
and also thisYou get used to it.0 -
yeah, and just try to get the right rack, your wrists will get used to it.0
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When I started doing front squats (I only ever did back squats) I looked up CROSSFIT demos on YouTube. They do these slow, step by step instructional videos that even show the line your body should make. Helped me immensely with front squats and overhead squats!! Elbows up!0
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Use your middle 3 fingers to stabilize the bar (don't actually hold it). Rest the bar more on your shoulders, less on your collarbone. I saw a great vid about this a while back... I'll see if I can find it.
@ItsCasey - if you see this, do you still have that front squat vid from a while back with mobility tips?0 -
Tagging for the tips.0
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This probably won't address your specific issues, but these are just my overall thoughts.
1) Warm up your wrists and work on your wrist flexibility before lifting. I use a front rack position with the bar resting on three fingers. Open your hands. It actually rests across my traps and shoulders.
2) Drop the amount of weight you are using by A LOT.
3) If you don't have olympic lifting shoes, front squats can be helped out quite a bit by putting a small plate under your heel. I added 40# to my front squat immediately just by putting on oly shoes.
4) If you're not accustomed to the lift, it might require a lot of core stability to get to proper depth that won't come as naturally as in the back squat that you train more frequently. Thus, maybe start with sets of lighter pause front squats. This can also help your body get used to the hip and ankle mobility required for full depth front squats. You're squatting between your legs more than squatting backwards.
5) There might be a tendency to fall forward. You want to be as upright as possible in a front squat so practice some sitting up right in squat stance. Using a kettlebell and working up to sitting in this stance for a couple minutes per day can help.
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Sam_I_Am77 wrote: »dwolfe1985 wrote: »Was taking a break from back squats so did some 95kg front squats to test it out as haven't really tried them and all i can say is wow they are uncomfortable! lol used the arms crossed method and its digging into my shoulders and windpipe to the extent i was going red faced even though the weight wasn't really a struggle. Anyone have some tips or is it just a case of getting used to it?
I would suggest just using the bar until you get use to it, 95kg's is not exactly a "learning" weight. LOL
If you’re wanting to move to the elbows up method, I’d use a little more than just the bar. I found the bar itself isn’t heavy enough to push my arms into the right position and I end up holding the bar about an inch above my shoulders.
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AllanMisner wrote: »Sam_I_Am77 wrote: »dwolfe1985 wrote: »Was taking a break from back squats so did some 95kg front squats to test it out as haven't really tried them and all i can say is wow they are uncomfortable! lol used the arms crossed method and its digging into my shoulders and windpipe to the extent i was going red faced even though the weight wasn't really a struggle. Anyone have some tips or is it just a case of getting used to it?
I would suggest just using the bar until you get use to it, 95kg's is not exactly a "learning" weight. LOL
If you’re wanting to move to the elbows up method, I’d use a little more than just the bar. I found the bar itself isn’t heavy enough to push my arms into the right position and I end up holding the bar about an inch above my shoulders.
Ha, true; good point. BUT, there's a big difference between say 85lbs or 95lbs and ~210lbs (what he's using).0 -
Never done front squats but I've seen many videos of people doing them. Just wondering what the benefits are of the front squat, and why you can't just do back squats.0
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bryandynaxus3 wrote: »Never done front squats but I've seen many videos of people doing them. Just wondering what the benefits are of the front squat, and why you can't just do back squats.
The main difference is they work the quads a bit more and they engage the Core muscles a little more. In my mind it's an exercise used if you're an Olympic Lifter, but people like what they like and that's cool too.
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Ohh ok cool beans thanks for the explanation. Looks a bit dangerous lol0
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bryandynaxus3 wrote: »Ohh ok cool beans thanks for the explanation. Looks a bit dangerous lol
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Thanks for the tips guys and girls guess its more i have to get my fingers/wrists flexible so its not choking me as much lolSam_I_Am77 wrote: »
I would suggest just using the bar until you get use to it, 95kg's is not exactly a "learning" weight. LOL
I high bar squat usually much more so 95kg is about enough to slightly challenge me as working up to it wasn't really too difficult.
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Check YouTube for videos using lifting straps. I've only done it with straps once or twice, but it makes sense.0
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sarahrbraun wrote: »Check YouTube for videos using lifting straps. I've only done it with straps once or twice, but it makes sense.
Thanks that's a great tip
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I really like front squats. They have clicked with me much more than back squats have. Here's a list of some more tips (some duplicate Kelly's great list above.)
http://breakingmuscle.com/strength-conditioning/when-in-doubt-do-front-squats-25-tips-for-better-front-squats0 -
Go on YouTube and look up front rack position. Crossing the arms is the wing way to do a front squat. With that position, the bar is not stable. Easy, you want to have the bar rest of your shoulders with just finger tips on the bar0
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This is the method I use for Front Squats. My wrist can not go backwards like they are supposed to. This method really helped. For me the bar doesn't feel stable with crossed arms.0
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This is the method I use for Front Squats. My wrist can not go backwards like they are supposed to. This method really helped. For me the bar doesn't feel stable with crossed arms.
This is exactly the video I was thinking of!!
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If its a flexibility problem with your shoulders, wrists, fingers or what have you I found using lifting wrists straps looped around the bar allowed me to do them. I deal with a joint disease that causes swelling 24/7 so it is an option for me. Here is a video of me on my first attempt ever although it doesn't show the straps it will give you an idea hopefully.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyxpNxusgh4
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to open up those wrists, don't forget to roll your triceps and stretch your wrists.0
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rarely with mobility is it "just" do this.
Think of such things as a river- if you throw a stone into it- there will be impact up and down stream.
So is working your flexibility and mobility- and many times as you work to find balance with one issue- another up or down stream will reveal itself.0 -
No, I do two things, one hurts, the other hurts even more.
I doubt you want to try it. Here's a video of how to do one of them.
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Use your middle 3 fingers to stabilize the bar (don't actually hold it). Rest the bar more on your shoulders, less on your collarbone. I saw a great vid about this a while back... I'll see if I can find it.
Here's that vid I referenced earlier
http://youtu.be/2W9YxWAeH-Y0 -
Slow decline through the heels, lift through the heels. If you lift through the toes you will bend forward and put strain on the wrists. Also, keep your head and neck pulled as far back as you can (if you do this right, it will feel like you have a double chin) and keep the eyes, head, and elbows up. Furthermore, shoulder/chest flexibility is usually an issue so focus on stretching those out before you get into position.0
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