Cookie/Treat problems
Leana088
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Do you think I burned 50 calories during 45minutes of weight lifting? I've planned a cookie for tonight that have put me that much over my goal. I logged cardio but I normally don't log weight lifting because I know it doesn't burn a lot of calories.
Also, my trainer is having a heart attack because every night I eat a treat (cookie, piece of chocolate, ice cream ect) right before going to sleep, like while laying in bed. He says it turns to fat because I'm sleeping. But I can't eat it at an earlier time of the day because then I start craving it later and don't stick to moderation. Opinions? Solutions?
(Add: don't tell me to get a new trainer, there's nobody else here who wouldn't put me on a juice diet or something. Small town, only 1 gym.)
Also, my trainer is having a heart attack because every night I eat a treat (cookie, piece of chocolate, ice cream ect) right before going to sleep, like while laying in bed. He says it turns to fat because I'm sleeping. But I can't eat it at an earlier time of the day because then I start craving it later and don't stick to moderation. Opinions? Solutions?
(Add: don't tell me to get a new trainer, there's nobody else here who wouldn't put me on a juice diet or something. Small town, only 1 gym.)
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It depends on the intensity, rest between sets etc. Very difficult to accurately count calories for weight lifting.
However, don't worry about eating at the end of the night- it is no more likely to turn to fat than eating it at any other time of the day. All that really matters is your overall deficit.0 -
you trainer is there to help you, they don't make the decisions for you. If having a small treat at night helps you to avoid binging throughout the day I say that is a good little trick and you should stick to it as long as your logging it and it fits your daily goals.
As far as the calorie burn for weight lifting there is no sure way to measure the calorie burn as heart rate monitors are more for steady state activity. However the truth is that if you are lifting correctly with minimal rest periods you are likely burning more calories lifting weights then you are when doing cardio. If you feel like that is not true for you personally you could likely raise the intensity of your strength training sessions.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZVjoXfszLI (just an example video I quickly goggled.)
Either way, eat the cookie and go to bed. Just keep working hard like you are.0 -
here is some more. Not experts but just some more advice and things to think about or talk with your trainer about.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UJFFsCM4fc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vjp2OrVgvw 0 -
Cookies are ace, so I've invested in some stevia based baking sweetener this morning.
Best of both worlds, and all that.....
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awesomejdad wrote: »here is some more. Not experts but just some more advice and things to think about or talk with your trainer about.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UJFFsCM4fchttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vjp2OrVgvw
Thank you, although I think he's reaction to them will be the same one I had towards him when he told me that 1 cookie will turn to fat at night.
My reaction?
Stare........"Yeah right, bro science."0 -
Paul_Collyer wrote: »Cookies are ace, so I've invested in some stevia based baking sweetener this morning.
Best of both worlds, and all that.....
;=)
Yum. But I just buy mine at the moment. I'm new to the moderation thing. I could never do it with treats, I just figured this little trick out a month ago. A little longer and maybe I'll start baking for myself again if I can keep it up.
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I agree with other posters that you can eat the treat daily if it fits in your calorie count. Just be sure to be honest with yourself about why you eat it. If you are hanging onto an old habit that is currently restrained, but that could lead to a binge if you get upset, frustrated, etc., then you might need to reevaluate the behavior.0
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I agree with other posters that you can eat the treat daily if it fits in your calorie count. Just be sure to be honest with yourself about why you eat it. If you are hanging onto an old habit that is currently restrained, but that could lead to a binge if you get upset, frustrated, etc., then you might need to reevaluate the behavior.
It is an old habit. I always use to just buy a whole block of chocolate and eat the whole thing in one go. Like I said I'm new to moderation.
And I do usually eat sweet stuff when I'm upset. But I'm not someone that feels guilty over it afterwards, I admit to myself that I'm eating it to make myself feel better (and it does), and I just balance the calories out over the rest of the week.
Edit to add : I do have a sweet tooth which is another reason I eat it. I've been eating it since being a child, so for me, it's a part of my past and present life I don't want to just let go of.0 -
I certainly understand all of that; it is an old habit for me, too. I would make a run to Walgreens and buy a candy bar when I was upset or just craving something sweet, or for any other reason, if I'm honest about it. My friend challenged me to rethink this, and I'm glad I did. She told me to buy the ghirardelli 72% chocolate squares and use them when I had the sweet craving. They are sweet and chocolate-y, but, honestly, not very good because of being slightly bitter. Therefore, I can eat 1 or 2 50-calorie squares and not crave them at all. Now when I think about stopping to buy a candy bar, I remind myself I already have chocolate at home, so I don't need to stop. I'm not suggesting this will work for you in the exact way it does for me; it's just an example of tweeking a habit just a little bit to make it more in line with living a healthier lifestyle. I am just concerned that this behavior might be a mini-rebellion and could at some point derail your efforts. That being said, I believe you should, for sure, continue it as long as it works for you. We all need to personalize our diets in ways that make it work for us. Just realize you can make a different decision if it becomes necessary. You're doing great right now and I admire your tenacity and creativity in making changes to your life, as well as your courage to post about your habits.
BTW, just a thought about your trainer. Trainers do their best to help us but I personally don't appreciate the "you can't do that" attitude because it's too parent-like. That turns me into a rebellious imp.0 -
I certainly understand all of that; it is an old habit for me, too. I would make a run to Walgreens and buy a candy bar when I was upset or just craving something sweet, or for any other reason, if I'm honest about it. My friend challenged me to rethink this, and I'm glad I did. She told me to buy the ghirardelli 72% chocolate squares and use them when I had the sweet craving. They are sweet and chocolate-y, but, honestly, not very good because of being slightly bitter. Therefore, I can eat 1 or 2 50-calorie squares and not crave them at all. Now when I think about stopping to buy a candy bar, I remind myself I already have chocolate at home, so I don't need to stop. I'm not suggesting this will work for you in the exact way it does for me; it's just an example of tweeking a habit just a little bit to make it more in line with living a healthier lifestyle. I am just concerned that this behavior might be a mini-rebellion and could at some point derail your efforts. That being said, I believe you should, for sure, continue it as long as it works for you. We all need to personalize our diets in ways that make it work for us. Just realize you can make a different decision if it becomes necessary. You're doing great right now and I admire your tenacity and creativity in making changes to your life, as well as your courage to post about your habits.
BTW, just a thought about your trainer. Trainers do their best to help us but I personally don't appreciate the "you can't do that" attitude because it's too parent-like. That turns me into a rebellious imp.
I have changed my view on sweets. Instead of seeing it as something "naughty" I started thinking of it as a normal snack. I started placing it in the same category as an apple, or a yoghurt, or anything else I would snack on between meals. This has really helped me tremendously with eating it in moderation because it doesn't bother me. It does still make me feel better when I'm upset though. But that's a "controlled binge". I usually plan for it.
Yeah, about my trainer. I think next time he asks about it I'll just tell him I've stopped eating it or something. I'll make up an excuse.
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find a new trainer. that one sounds like an idiot. at least when it comes to actual science, hes an idiot.
i have a treat every night just about, and if its a cookie, its in bed with my milk (its actually been awhile since ive done that, but i do still regularly have treats at night and go to bed early). and im consistently losing weight.
its not what or when you eat, its how much you eat and how much you burn. cico.0 -
I used to need a sweet every night and I lost weight just fine while doing that. Now after a year doing MFP I'm finally getting to the point where it's not hard for me to skip it. I still totally have a sweet every day, but it's not usually at night and it's just something small. The trick that has worked for me is to get small, individually wrapped goodies. I love snickers so I get the fun size ones. Since they're individually wrapped, I'm less tempted to just grab one without thinking. The Ghiradhelli squares are a good suggestion too. Not a ton of calories in one and they're so delicious that one is satisfying.0
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Eat the cookie. There is a place under cardio to log strength training (overestimated so only eat back half to be safe).
Also, cough* I'd tell your trainer to back off. I have a treat daily and will continue to, as I believe over restricting or deprivation, would lead to me ultimately failing at this change in life. I continue now as I plan to carry on in the future.0 -
Do you think I burned 50 calories during 45minutes of weight lifting? I've planned a cookie for tonight that have put me that much over my goal. I logged cardio but I normally don't log weight lifting because I know it doesn't burn a lot of calories.
Also, my trainer is having a heart attack because every night I eat a treat (cookie, piece of chocolate, ice cream ect) right before going to sleep, like while laying in bed. He says it turns to fat because I'm sleeping. But I can't eat it at an earlier time of the day because then I start craving it later and don't stick to moderation. Opinions? Solutions?
(Add: don't tell me to get a new trainer, there's nobody else here who wouldn't put me on a juice diet or something. Small town, only 1 gym.)
That's just crazytalk! If that cookie or treat or whatever helps to prevent you from over-doing it during the day then I think it's great - as long as it's properly weighed/measured and logged and fit's into your calories
Unless you have some digestive issues, it doesn't matter what time of day you decide to eat that cookie.
I have a treat every night (under 150 calories) after I do pilates. I feel like having it really stops me from binging or having 'cheat days'.
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tracyannk28 wrote: »Do you think I burned 50 calories during 45minutes of weight lifting? I've planned a cookie for tonight that have put me that much over my goal. I logged cardio but I normally don't log weight lifting because I know it doesn't burn a lot of calories.
Also, my trainer is having a heart attack because every night I eat a treat (cookie, piece of chocolate, ice cream ect) right before going to sleep, like while laying in bed. He says it turns to fat because I'm sleeping. But I can't eat it at an earlier time of the day because then I start craving it later and don't stick to moderation. Opinions? Solutions?
(Add: don't tell me to get a new trainer, there's nobody else here who wouldn't put me on a juice diet or something. Small town, only 1 gym.)
I have a treat every night (under 150 calories) after I do pilates. I feel like having it really stops me from binging or having 'cheat days'.
I still have "cheat" days. Although mine is not the typical one most people would be thinking of now. It's a "cheat on nutrition" day.
Usually Saturday, I eat a lot of carbs. Pizza, bread, burgers ect. They are high in calories, which means I will probably still balance the calories that day, but I never hit my protein or fat goals on that day.
It's not a real cheat. I just view it as an "off" day where I don't worry too much about hitting macros. It balances out anyway. I'm always under on carbs (unintentionally) during the week.
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tracyannk28 wrote: »Do you think I burned 50 calories during 45minutes of weight lifting? I've planned a cookie for tonight that have put me that much over my goal. I logged cardio but I normally don't log weight lifting because I know it doesn't burn a lot of calories.
Also, my trainer is having a heart attack because every night I eat a treat (cookie, piece of chocolate, ice cream ect) right before going to sleep, like while laying in bed. He says it turns to fat because I'm sleeping. But I can't eat it at an earlier time of the day because then I start craving it later and don't stick to moderation. Opinions? Solutions?
(Add: don't tell me to get a new trainer, there's nobody else here who wouldn't put me on a juice diet or something. Small town, only 1 gym.)
I have a treat every night (under 150 calories) after I do pilates. I feel like having it really stops me from binging or having 'cheat days'.
I still have "cheat" days. Although mine is not the typical one most people would be thinking of now. It's a "cheat on nutrition" day.
Usually Saturday, I eat a lot of carbs. Pizza, bread, burgers ect. They are high in calories, which means I will probably still balance the calories that day, but I never hit my protein or fat goals on that day.
It's not a real cheat. I just view it as an "off" day where I don't worry too much about hitting macros. It balances out anyway. I'm always under on carbs (unintentionally) during the week.
There is nothing wrong with Pizza, bread or burgers.0 -
I used to need a sweet every night and I lost weight just fine while doing that. Now after a year doing MFP I'm finally getting to the point where it's not hard for me to skip it. I still totally have a sweet every day, but it's not usually at night and it's just something small. The trick that has worked for me is to get small, individually wrapped goodies. I love snickers so I get the fun size ones. Since they're individually wrapped, I'm less tempted to just grab one without thinking. The Ghiradhelli squares are a good suggestion too. Not a ton of calories in one and they're so delicious that one is satisfying.
I will also hopefully get to this stage one day. Like I said I've only been doing the moderation thing for about a month now. It's getting easier.
I just want to skip the cravings I have after eating a treat that's why I opted for eating them before sleep time. I don't have a strong willpower when it comes to cravings. Sad but true. This way I still get to have my cake and eat it too.0 -
Liftng4Lis wrote: »tracyannk28 wrote: »Do you think I burned 50 calories during 45minutes of weight lifting? I've planned a cookie for tonight that have put me that much over my goal. I logged cardio but I normally don't log weight lifting because I know it doesn't burn a lot of calories.
Also, my trainer is having a heart attack because every night I eat a treat (cookie, piece of chocolate, ice cream ect) right before going to sleep, like while laying in bed. He says it turns to fat because I'm sleeping. But I can't eat it at an earlier time of the day because then I start craving it later and don't stick to moderation. Opinions? Solutions?
(Add: don't tell me to get a new trainer, there's nobody else here who wouldn't put me on a juice diet or something. Small town, only 1 gym.)
I have a treat every night (under 150 calories) after I do pilates. I feel like having it really stops me from binging or having 'cheat days'.
I still have "cheat" days. Although mine is not the typical one most people would be thinking of now. It's a "cheat on nutrition" day.
Usually Saturday, I eat a lot of carbs. Pizza, bread, burgers ect. They are high in calories, which means I will probably still balance the calories that day, but I never hit my protein or fat goals on that day.
It's not a real cheat. I just view it as an "off" day where I don't worry too much about hitting macros. It balances out anyway. I'm always under on carbs (unintentionally) during the week.
There is nothing wrong with Pizza, bread or burgers.
Agree !
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I would guess that yes, 45 minutes of strength training would burn 50 calories.
And your trainer sounds like an idiot.0 -
I suspect 45 min of weight lifting did cover a 50 cal overage, but I wouldn't know how to quantify it.
If your treat is important to you, maybe pre-log it into your diary first, then plan all your other eating to fit into what's left.
Also, if you are over by 50 calories one day, you can make up for it by eating 50 less the next day. It all averages out.0 -
I_Will_End_You wrote: »I would guess that yes, 45 minutes of strength training would burn 50 calories.
And your trainer sounds like an idiot.
Unfortunately I live in a small town, with only 1 gym, that has a total of 5 trainers. The others are all too restrictive and fall for even worse bro science and fads.
He's the only one that seems to get that calorie deficit = weight loss...although somehow somewhere I don't think he thinks logically about it.
Because you can't burn and gain fat at the same time. It's either one or the other. It's like if you have a glass of water, how are you going to fill it while pouring it out on the same time...?
simple logic to me. 0 -
OP I think it sounds like you're working toward a healthy mindset with regards to moderation. As others have said, nothing wrong with fitting in a treat and nothing wrong with having it at the end of the day and even eating it in bed although it reminds me of that old joke, "is she pretty?"
"Well I wouldn't kick her out of bed for eating crackers"
It might be an awkward conversation with your trainer but maybe you could just tell him that you prefer him to focus on helping you with the strength training and not on the nutrition aspect of your fitness, unless he's a certified dietician (which it sounds like he's not based on the advice you got already...)
Last comment, not sure what your goals or deficits are set at but if working for weight loss you have likely a decent deficit built into your day and a 50 cal overage once in a while won't significantly hinder your results. But I agree with others if this is something you want to do every day maybe pre-log it so you can make changes elsewhere with either food consumption or walk an extra 10 minutes.
Good luck!0 -
OP I think it sounds like you're working toward a healthy mindset with regards to moderation. As others have said, nothing wrong with fitting in a treat and nothing wrong with having it at the end of the day and even eating it in bed although it reminds me of that old joke, "is she pretty?"
"Well I wouldn't kick her out of bed for eating crackers"
It might be an awkward conversation with your trainer but maybe you could just tell him that you prefer him to focus on helping you with the strength training and not on the nutrition aspect of your fitness, unless he's a certified dietician (which it sounds like he's not based on the advice you got already...)
Last comment, not sure what your goals or deficits are set at but if working for weight loss you have likely a decent deficit built into your day and a 50 cal overage once in a while won't significantly hinder your results. But I agree with others if this is something you want to do every day maybe pre-log it so you can make changes elsewhere with either food consumption or walk an extra 10 minutes.
Good luck!
This^^^
Also, it's not going to turn to fat just because you ate it before bed. Your trainer is wrong.
Just brush your teeth before actually falling asleep! 0 -
Eat the cookie, don't tell the trainer. It's only 50 calories, not 500.0
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When i have a sweet tooth i turn to healthy options. I like frozen strawberry fruit bars (kroger brand), vanilla coke zero is so good, parfeit from mcdonalds, yogurt, fiber one brownies, etc. I've found the feeling deprived is detrimental to weight loss so i substitute instead0
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