Lose weight by eating more?
SammySweets15
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So I heard that you can up your calorie intake and lose weight. Has anyone tried that? I read about Audrey Johns. She says by eating All Natural foods, the weight flew off. Has anyone tried this?
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I think you need to consider at what point you are upping calories. Eating more than when you were gaining or maintaining won't result in a weight loss. But, if you've been at a large deficit and find you are hungry a lot or tempted to binge, then you may be able to up your calories by 100 or 200 or maybe even a bit more and still lose weight.
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Have not tried the "Audrey Johns" approach. If you have been eating with a caloric deficit of say 1000 calories per day then you can indeed eat more (say 500 calories per day), still be at a deficit and still lose weight. It just won't be as fast.
By the way, don't let the subsequent posts bother you.0 -
I know that if you hit a plateau during your weight loss journey, adding some more protein into your daily intake may help...0
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That's the opposite of the truth. You lose weight by eating less, not more. Increasing calories can cause short term stall in water retention to ease, but will not increase fat loss. If you are eating so little that you frequently break your goals and overeat, increasing calories might help. In that example you really aren't eating more though, you are simply eating more for your goal and binging less. The net result was still that you had to eat less to lose. Eating "all natural" is meaningless. Lead and arsenic are both naturally occurring things. Eating mostly minimally processed, whole foods can result in a greater feeling of satiation which again will help with compliance. It will also ensure you meet all your micro nutrient goals as well. It will not however, increase fat loss in and of itself. This is why it's silly to try and eat 100% minimally processed, whole foods. An occasional processed snack or meal will not cause your fat loss to slow or stop as long as it falls within your calorie goals.SammySweets15 wrote: »So I heard that you can up your calorie intake and lose weight. Has anyone tried that? I read about Audrey Johns. She says by eating All Natural foods, the weight flew off. Has anyone tried this?
I feel safe saying the vast majority of people that think they starting eating more and losing faster actually didn't. They might be eating more total food then before, but they are probably eating less total calories. A pound of broccoli is more food then a chocolate bar, but has much fewer calories. You can't break physics no matter how hard you try. Calories in vs calories out determine weight loss, but eating more whole foods can give you more food for your caloric buck.
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Eat more volume but fewer calories ..yes that would work
Eat more calories - nope, never...because of basic science0 -
Thx for everyones input.. I will keep that in mind.0
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i would agree with above posters . u would lose on all natural because it would recommend tons of veggies which have very few calories. u would consume more bulk but u would still be eating fewer calories. if u want u could probably combine the two. eating natural is certainly not a bad thing, but from experience ive tried that and depriving myself of anything processed is just not realistic long term0
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Actually, I think you can eat too little and when you do, instead of losing more, you plateau. This is because your body thinks you're in for a period of starvation and holds onto everything. I believe it is fairly well documented. This has definitely happened to me.
What I can't tell you is where your level becomes too low as that varies from person to person. I would say avoid crash diets and maintain consistent reasonable calorie deficit while eating a varied diet of fresh food. And move! !-1 -
HarveysGail wrote: »Actually, I think you can eat too little and when you do, instead of losing more, you plateau. This is because your body thinks you're in for a period of starvation and holds onto everything. I believe it is fairly well documented. This has definitely happened to me.
What I can't tell you is where your level becomes too low as that varies from person to person. I would say avoid crash diets and maintain consistent reasonable calorie deficit while eating a varied diet of fresh food. And move! !
Nope
Please see Minnesota starvation experiment, starving people in famine zones etc. when you eat too few calories you lose weight...maybe not in a linear fashion, there are stalls, and ups and downs, but weight inexorably goes downwards
There may be a thermodynamic adaptation to the lower calorie amount that causes a small reduction in the amount of weight loss but it's still going down
It goes down cos it does, like the earth revolves around the sun, it goes down0 -
Problem is starving people lose muscle mass including heart muscle. I don't think that's healthy. I am hypothyroid and starving definitely does not work for me. But weight training 3 hours0
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SammySweets15 wrote: »So I heard that you can up your calorie intake and lose weight.
Sure.
Because everybody knows the best way to gain weight is to eat less.
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Oops. Ending lost there. Weight training and sensible eating more does work for me.0
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When I increase my calories it is for satiety and gym performance, not improved weight loss. I've had the experience a few times of adding in calories and losing a bit faster, but the increased calories also helped me work out with greater intensity and I felt okay with doing a bit more cardio as a result. So in effect increasing my intake simply helped me be more active therefore increasing my energy burns. I just upped my calories to 2250 because I lost 2.4lbs over the last 2 weeks instead of 1lb (0.5lb/week goal) and my gym performance was starting to suffer.0
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Explain this science. A person is eating at a deficit of 1000 calories per day. They start eating an additional 250 calories per day so their deficit is now 750 calories. Your science says that a person with a deficit of 750 calories will not lose weight just because they are eating more than they did before? Interesting.Eat more volume but fewer calories ..yes that would work
Eat more calories - nope, never...because of basic science
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Explain this science. A person is eating at a deficit of 100 calories per day. They start eating an additional 250 calories per day so their deficit is now 750 calories. Your science says that a person with a deficit of 750 calories will not lose weight just because they are eating more than they did before? Interesting.Eat more volume but fewer calories ..yes that would work
Eat more calories - nope, never...because of basic science
What? No
Eat at a defecit = lose weight
Eat at a smaller defecit = lose weight at a slower rate over time
Eat at a larger defecit = lose weight at a faster rate over time
Eat more to lose more in the same period? Nope. That's like saying eat less to gain weight.
In the words of a great man "that's highly illogical Cap'n"0 -
HarveysGail wrote: »Actually, I think you can eat too little and when you do, instead of losing more, you plateau. This is because your body thinks you're in for a period of starvation and holds onto everything. I believe it is fairly well documented. This has definitely happened to me.
What I can't tell you is where your level becomes too low as that varies from person to person. I would say avoid crash diets and maintain consistent reasonable calorie deficit while eating a varied diet of fresh food. And move! !
Doesn't work that way.0 -
Ok thanks0
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Except that's not what she said. At all.Eat at a smaller defecit = lose weight at a slower rate over time
Eat at a larger defecit = lose weight at a faster rate over time
Eat more to lose more in the same period? Nope
i.e. eat a small deficit to lose at a fast rate = nope.0 -
Can I just piggy back this discussion: I have been meticulous with weighing my food by grams. I have been under 1000 cal on some days (I know), I have been burning up to 4000 calories/day. By my calculations, I should have lost 4lbs this week but only lost 1. That is frustrating. Albeit this is only for one week...the previous week I lost 5lbs.
I am hoping that extra 3lb will catch up at some point? Maybe a chick issue regarding hormone fluctuating, etc?0 -
what are u doing to burn 4000 cals a day? thats pretty excessive. weight loss is not linear. if u lost 5lb the previous week and the next week was one that still averages 3lbs a week. thats more than is even recommended for healthy long term weight loss. i think u know what ur doing is not the healthiest approach and most people here would not recommend losing more than 2lb a week0
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That's the opposite of the truth. You lose weight by eating less, not more.SammySweets15 wrote: »So I heard that you can up your calorie intake and lose weight. Has anyone tried that? I read about Audrey Johns. She says by eating All Natural foods, the weight flew off. Has anyone tried this?
It was a trick question. She asked if she can up her calorie intake and lose weight. The answer is yes.
That being said I'm thinking she meant can she lose MORE if she ups her calorie intake and in that case...no....like you said0 -
No, but I do find that when I eat at a smaller deficit, I don't feel the need to freak out and binge, so ultimately, I do lose more (since I don't bounce back up due to binges).
But eat more than my TDEE and lose weight? No, that has never made me lose weight.0 -
The numbers will never, ever, ever add up perfectly. There are WAY too many variables and factors at work. Also, how did you arrive at 4000 calories burned. I should point out that wearable fitness tech is far from flawless.Can I just piggy back this discussion: I have been meticulous with weighing my food by grams. I have been under 1000 cal on some days (I know), I have been burning up to 4000 calories/day. By my calculations, I should have lost 4lbs this week but only lost 1. That is frustrating. Albeit this is only for one week...the previous week I lost 5lbs.
I am hoping that extra 3lb will catch up at some point? Maybe a chick issue regarding hormone fluctuating, etc?
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You're burning 4000 calories?? How?0
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christinev297 wrote: »You're burning 4000 calories?? How?
That's what I was thinking!!!
I mean is this using the new "carry a refrigerator tied to your back uphill against a strong wind while battling zombies" method? :disagree:
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That's pretty much false. "Eat more", but how much more? How much exactly?
I think it can be done to eat at maintenance or above maintenance if you significantly increase your output by doing lifting, cardio, etc.
This would essentially make your caloric deficit off of exercise calories. Bear in mind, you MUST burn more calories than you need to maintain your weight in order to lose. But you know what they say "you can't out-exercise a bad diet".
It is so much easier, less stressful, and effective to create your caloric deficit by eating less.0 -
Its called working my damn booty off all damn day lol. I realize its an estimate but I use a combination of a Garmin FR15, FitBit, AND a BodyMedia armband on a daily basis. I walk an average of 20k steps a day, sometimes as many as 35K (I have a treadmill in my living room - also I'm training for a Ragnar Relay and a Disney half using C25K). I practice my Ragnar legs once a week (so 4.3m in the morning, 4.1 miles in the evening, and then 3m the next morning. My pace right now is 15min miles.
I am literally beaten and exhausted by the end of each 4000 cal burned day, ending with a magnesium bath and a massage (best.hubby.ever). I do have 2800 cal burned days as well, but aim for 3000 burned minimum. Like I said, I did the math for last week and should have ended up with 4 pounds lost. Obviously give or take.
I eat under 1500 calories 6 days/week and under 2000 once a week. Food doesn't enter my mouth until its been on the scale.0 -
jenncornelsen wrote: »what are u doing to burn 4000 cals a day? thats pretty excessive. weight loss is not linear. if u lost 5lb the previous week and the next week was one that still averages 3lbs a week. thats more than is even recommended for healthy long term weight loss. i think u know what ur doing is not the healthiest approach and most people here would not recommend losing more than 2lb a week
Yes I do realize that...I weigh 225lbs. I am trying to lose a wee bit faster than I should so I can complete my Ragnar in April more efficiently. I am not necessarily aiming for 3-4lbs lost, but when you spend as much time exercising as I have due to training, etc, you lack time for eating or the desire to. I love food...love to eat. Once I hit 199, I will strictly adhere to the recommended 2 pounds/week.0 -
jenncornelsen wrote: »what are u doing to burn 4000 cals a day? thats pretty excessive. weight loss is not linear. if u lost 5lb the previous week and the next week was one that still averages 3lbs a week. thats more than is even recommended for healthy long term weight loss. i think u know what ur doing is not the healthiest approach and most people here would not recommend losing more than 2lb a week
Yes I do realize that...I weigh 225lbs. I am trying to lose a wee bit faster than I should so I can complete my Ragnar in April more efficiently. I am not necessarily aiming for 3-4lbs lost, but when you spend as much time exercising as I have due to training, etc, you lack time for eating or the desire to. I love food...love to eat. Once I hit 199, I will strictly adhere to the recommended 2 pounds/week.
So then...what *do* you do that burns 4000 calories? ETA: oh, sorry, I see you gave an explanation above. I understand you're being very physical, but still...really 4000 calories? In a day? In addition to whatever your base calories are?
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