Can't consume 1200 calories
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madslacker wrote: »brianpperkins wrote: »madslacker wrote: »madslacker wrote: »madslacker wrote: »I'm 18 yrs old now, when I made this I was 17. I really don't starve myself. I know that by starving myself I can get anorexia and other food disorders
Eating under 1200 calories is starving your body of fuel it needs to operate properly. And not all ED's are just starving yourself. An eating disorder means you have a skewed or unhealthy relationship with food. Which you are showing red flags of on this thread. Please seek help and talk to someone about it.
That's a pretty big assumption.
If the OP thinks that processed and fast food (mcdonalds, BK, pizzahut) is bad - she's right.
If the OP thinks that it's better to make better food choices (veggies, lean meats, fruits) - she's right.
I don't see any red flags, just someone needing a bit of good advice starting out. Maybe a few meal suggestions to get her to a more appropriate calorie range.
You're wrong.
Am I? How so?
Food is food. Nothing inherently wrong with any food. Some more nutritionally dense than others, but there is no bad food. Unless it's spoiled.
That's just silly.
There are indeed food choices that you can make that are detrimental to your health in a wide variety of ways. Preservatives, over processing, etc. I'm sure you're not unaware of this and just trying to make a point - but I have no idea why.
Peer reviewed science disagrees with your fearmongering posts. I'm sure you're aware of that yet still chose to post as you have.
I'm going to doubt that there are peer reviewed studies refuting the health risks of eating processed/preserved junk foods.
I get thinking outside of the box and challenging trends - but come on
Now I've always said there are no bad foods, but took a quick peek at your diary and well
margarine and cheap miller lite beer mixed in there... I might be mistaken0 -
madslacker wrote: »brianpperkins wrote: »madslacker wrote: »madslacker wrote: »madslacker wrote: »I'm 18 yrs old now, when I made this I was 17. I really don't starve myself. I know that by starving myself I can get anorexia and other food disorders
Eating under 1200 calories is starving your body of fuel it needs to operate properly. And not all ED's are just starving yourself. An eating disorder means you have a skewed or unhealthy relationship with food. Which you are showing red flags of on this thread. Please seek help and talk to someone about it.
That's a pretty big assumption.
If the OP thinks that processed and fast food (mcdonalds, BK, pizzahut) is bad - she's right.
If the OP thinks that it's better to make better food choices (veggies, lean meats, fruits) - she's right.
I don't see any red flags, just someone needing a bit of good advice starting out. Maybe a few meal suggestions to get her to a more appropriate calorie range.
You're wrong.
Am I? How so?
Food is food. Nothing inherently wrong with any food. Some more nutritionally dense than others, but there is no bad food. Unless it's spoiled.
That's just silly.
There are indeed food choices that you can make that are detrimental to your health in a wide variety of ways. Preservatives, over processing, etc. I'm sure you're not unaware of this and just trying to make a point - but I have no idea why.
Peer reviewed science disagrees with your fearmongering posts. I'm sure you're aware of that yet still chose to post as you have.
I'm going to doubt that there are peer reviewed studies refuting the health risks of eating processed/preserved junk foods.
I get thinking outside of the box and challenging trends - but come on
You should really spend more time on these boards before you throw around misinformation like that. You are wrong.0 -
brianpperkins wrote: »madslacker wrote: »brianpperkins wrote: »madslacker wrote: »madslacker wrote: »madslacker wrote: »I'm 18 yrs old now, when I made this I was 17. I really don't starve myself. I know that by starving myself I can get anorexia and other food disorders
Eating under 1200 calories is starving your body of fuel it needs to operate properly. And not all ED's are just starving yourself. An eating disorder means you have a skewed or unhealthy relationship with food. Which you are showing red flags of on this thread. Please seek help and talk to someone about it.
That's a pretty big assumption.
If the OP thinks that processed and fast food (mcdonalds, BK, pizzahut) is bad - she's right.
If the OP thinks that it's better to make better food choices (veggies, lean meats, fruits) - she's right.
I don't see any red flags, just someone needing a bit of good advice starting out. Maybe a few meal suggestions to get her to a more appropriate calorie range.
You're wrong.
Am I? How so?
Food is food. Nothing inherently wrong with any food. Some more nutritionally dense than others, but there is no bad food. Unless it's spoiled.
That's just silly.
There are indeed food choices that you can make that are detrimental to your health in a wide variety of ways. Preservatives, over processing, etc. I'm sure you're not unaware of this and just trying to make a point - but I have no idea why.
Peer reviewed science disagrees with your fearmongering posts. I'm sure you're aware of that yet still chose to post as you have.
I'm going to doubt that there are peer reviewed studies refuting the health risks of eating processed/preserved junk foods.
I get thinking outside of the box and challenging trends - but come on
If you cared so much, you wouldn't be eating them. Actions speak and yours counter your drivel.
Good day.
Boom! How clean is that Subway sandwich in your diary? :huh:0 -
madslacker wrote: »brianpperkins wrote: »madslacker wrote: »madslacker wrote: »madslacker wrote: »I'm 18 yrs old now, when I made this I was 17. I really don't starve myself. I know that by starving myself I can get anorexia and other food disorders
Eating under 1200 calories is starving your body of fuel it needs to operate properly. And not all ED's are just starving yourself. An eating disorder means you have a skewed or unhealthy relationship with food. Which you are showing red flags of on this thread. Please seek help and talk to someone about it.
That's a pretty big assumption.
If the OP thinks that processed and fast food (mcdonalds, BK, pizzahut) is bad - she's right.
If the OP thinks that it's better to make better food choices (veggies, lean meats, fruits) - she's right.
I don't see any red flags, just someone needing a bit of good advice starting out. Maybe a few meal suggestions to get her to a more appropriate calorie range.
You're wrong.
Am I? How so?
Food is food. Nothing inherently wrong with any food. Some more nutritionally dense than others, but there is no bad food. Unless it's spoiled.
That's just silly.
There are indeed food choices that you can make that are detrimental to your health in a wide variety of ways. Preservatives, over processing, etc. I'm sure you're not unaware of this and just trying to make a point - but I have no idea why.
Peer reviewed science disagrees with your fearmongering posts. I'm sure you're aware of that yet still chose to post as you have.
I'm going to doubt that there are peer reviewed studies refuting the health risks of eating processed/preserved junk foods.
I get thinking outside of the box and challenging trends - but come on
this article, at least, disagrees with your fearmongering:
"Traditional fast food meals are indeed energy dense. In terms of kilojoule intake alone, a traditional fast food meal can be incorporated reasonably into a daily intake without necessarily promoting obesity. Health professionals should educate consumers of the simple 'healthy' choices they can make when eating fast food."
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/243517290 -
madslacker wrote: »madslacker wrote: »madslacker wrote: »I'm 18 yrs old now, when I made this I was 17. I really don't starve myself. I know that by starving myself I can get anorexia and other food disorders
Eating under 1200 calories is starving your body of fuel it needs to operate properly. And not all ED's are just starving yourself. An eating disorder means you have a skewed or unhealthy relationship with food. Which you are showing red flags of on this thread. Please seek help and talk to someone about it.
That's a pretty big assumption.
If the OP thinks that processed and fast food (mcdonalds, BK, pizzahut) is bad - she's right.
If the OP thinks that it's better to make better food choices (veggies, lean meats, fruits) - she's right.
I don't see any red flags, just someone needing a bit of good advice starting out. Maybe a few meal suggestions to get her to a more appropriate calorie range.
You're wrong.
Am I? How so?
Food is food. Nothing inherently wrong with any food. Some more nutritionally dense than others, but there is no bad food. Unless it's spoiled.
That's just silly.
There are indeed food choices that you can make that are detrimental to your health in a wide variety of ways. Preservatives, over processing, etc. I'm sure you're not unaware of this and just trying to make a point - but I have no idea why.janejellyroll wrote: »madslacker wrote: »I'm 18 yrs old now, when I made this I was 17. I really don't starve myself. I know that by starving myself I can get anorexia and other food disorders
Eating under 1200 calories is starving your body of fuel it needs to operate properly. And not all ED's are just starving yourself. An eating disorder means you have a skewed or unhealthy relationship with food. Which you are showing red flags of on this thread. Please seek help and talk to someone about it.
That's a pretty big assumption.
If the OP thinks that processed and fast food (mcdonalds, BK, pizzahut) is bad - she's right.
If the OP thinks that it's better to make better food choices (veggies, lean meats, fruits) - she's right.
I don't see any red flags, just someone needing a bit of good advice starting out. Maybe a few meal suggestions to get her to a more appropriate calorie range.
You don't think it's concerning that someone was eating 1,200 calories and then began restricting more because she felt like she was eating too much?
I think that if you cut the junk from your diet it can be surprising how much you can eat and still be at a pretty fair deficit. You can eat a whole lot of broccoli and grilled chicken breast and be significantly under 1200 calories. Sounds like she needs education, not a diagnosis from the internet
So, just so I understand this, you don't see anything wrong with a highly active 18 yr old female with a TDEE of 2500 calories aiming for 1200 cals?
Also, there is nothing wrong with enjoying "junk" as a PART of your diet. No one here is advocating eating a diet that is entirely made up of candy, ice cream, etc, but are saying you don't need to cut it completely out if you're meeting your nutritional and caloric goals.0 -
My height is 168cm
My weight is 66kg
Activity level - active
And my age is 18
My age is 46, my weight is 66kg, my height is 167.5cm and I am active...I'm MUCH older than you and I'm eating 2100 calories to lose weight (was eating 1925 earlier due to injury). As an 18 yr old you should be eating a LOT more than me to lose weight. Don't do what many young girls do and demonise food, ending up with disordered eating issues and making a mess of their metabolisms at a time when it should be easier to eat more. Take it from an oldie who did it and regretted it later on.
Go on the Scooby calculator, figure out your fitness level (including just every day activities and not just exercise) and then take a MAX of 15% deficit (I'm at a 10% since I'm already at a healthy weight). So much better for your body and your life. You can eat anything you want as long as it fits in your calorie level - try to reach your protein goals. And think about weight lifting - it's the one thing I wish girls did when I was your age as it was mainly just lunk head men.
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I stand corrected.
There are no advantages to selecting fresh foods over a Big Mac. Preservatives and pesticides are my friends.
I'm off to drown myself in miller lite and Parkay.0 -
madslacker wrote: »I stand corrected.
There are no advantages to selecting fresh foods over a Big Mac. Preservatives and pesticides are my friends.
I'm off to drown myself in miller lite and Parkay.
no said that, ever.
also, all that organic fruit and vegetables i'm guessing you eat is absolutely covered in pesticides.
and i thought it was Subway and Sierra Nevada?0 -
madslacker wrote: »I stand corrected.
There are no advantages to selecting fresh foods over a Big Mac. Preservatives and pesticides are my friends.
I'm off to drown myself in miller lite and Parkay.
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madslacker wrote: »I stand corrected.
There are no advantages to selecting fresh foods over a Big Mac. Preservatives and pesticides are my friends.
I'm off to drown myself in miller lite and Parkay.
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madslacker wrote: »I stand corrected.
There are no advantages to selecting fresh foods over a Big Mac. Preservatives and pesticides are my friends.
I'm off to drown myself in miller lite and Parkay.
no said that, ever.
also, all that organic fruit and vegetables i'm guessing you eat is absolutely covered in pesticides.
and i thought it was Subway and Sierra Nevada?
That too.
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I'll let you guys get back to supplying the diagnosis the OP is clearly in need of.0
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Here's how to get to 1200+: Eat 4 slices of Papa Johns pizza. Can be spaced throughout the day. You may need to see someone because if you think 1200 is a lot, you have a skewed perspective of food and possibly your body.0
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Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »madslacker wrote: »I stand corrected.
There are no advantages to selecting fresh foods over a Big Mac. Preservatives and pesticides are my friends.
I'm off to drown myself in miller lite and Parkay.
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diannethegeek wrote: »Calorie dense foods can be your best friends when you're trying to boost your calories. This is a generic list and it's definitely not comprehensive, but anything here can be included in a balanced diet (as long as there are no allergies, medical conditions, obviously):
avocado
cheese
full fat dairy
Greek yogurt
ice cream
peanut butter (or other nut butters)
dark chocolate
less lean cuts of meat (including beef, pork, sausage, etc.)
seeds (chia, flax, sunflower, etc.)
nuts
olive oil
coconut oil
butter
beans and lentils
protein shakes, bars, and smoothies
hummus
beef jerky
cornbread
tuna
full calorie condiments
full calorie sauces & dressings
sour cream
guacamole
whole grain pasta
rice
bacon
whole eggs
quinoa
fruit and fruit juices
pretzels
bananas
scones
muffins (bran, blueberry, banana nut, etc.)
potatoes (sweet, red, gold, purple, white, etc.)
dried fruit (raisins, apricots, plums, dates, etc.)
granola
coconut
salmon
edamame
honey
molasses
This.
And you need to be logging your exercise and eating back at least some of your exercise calories.0 -
madslacker wrote: »brianpperkins wrote: »madslacker wrote: »madslacker wrote: »madslacker wrote: »I'm 18 yrs old now, when I made this I was 17. I really don't starve myself. I know that by starving myself I can get anorexia and other food disorders
Eating under 1200 calories is starving your body of fuel it needs to operate properly. And not all ED's are just starving yourself. An eating disorder means you have a skewed or unhealthy relationship with food. Which you are showing red flags of on this thread. Please seek help and talk to someone about it.
That's a pretty big assumption.
If the OP thinks that processed and fast food (mcdonalds, BK, pizzahut) is bad - she's right.
If the OP thinks that it's better to make better food choices (veggies, lean meats, fruits) - she's right.
I don't see any red flags, just someone needing a bit of good advice starting out. Maybe a few meal suggestions to get her to a more appropriate calorie range.
You're wrong.
Am I? How so?
Food is food. Nothing inherently wrong with any food. Some more nutritionally dense than others, but there is no bad food. Unless it's spoiled.
That's just silly.
There are indeed food choices that you can make that are detrimental to your health in a wide variety of ways. Preservatives, over processing, etc. I'm sure you're not unaware of this and just trying to make a point - but I have no idea why.
Peer reviewed science disagrees with your fearmongering posts. I'm sure you're aware of that yet still chose to post as you have.
I'm going to doubt that there are peer reviewed studies refuting the health risks of eating processed/preserved junk foods.
I get thinking outside of the box and challenging trends - but come on
McDonald's (for example) has oatmeal, salads, apples and the such. how do these differ from the ones you buy for yourself at the store?
Hint: It doesn't.
This isn't a studying refuting health risks, but still an interesting one:
http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/research-review/hormonal-responses-to-a-fast-food-meal-compared-with-nutritionally-comparable-meals-of-different-composition-research-review.html0 -
madslacker wrote: »I stand corrected.
There are no advantages to selecting fresh foods over a Big Mac. Preservatives and pesticides are my friends.
I'm off to drown myself in miller lite and Parkay.
Ah ... reductio ad absurdum ... the final bastion of those who cannot discuss a topic using logic. This time nicely coupled with the "I'm off" tactic.
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Thank you, I eat like yoghurt with 0% of fats and stuff like that. And I eat a lots of vegetables and fruits. I don't drink coca cola only 100% orange juice but not always. I prefer tea and water. I never felt hungry or any symptom that has to do anything with eating disorder or anything like that.0
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Thank you, I eat like yoghurt with 0% of fats and stuff like that. And I eat a lots of vegetables and fruits. I don't drink coca cola only 100% orange juice but not always. I prefer tea and water. I never felt hungry or any symptom that has to do anything with eating disorder or anything like that.
I don't think you are really understanding what some people go through with different disorders or disordered eating.
There are a lot of red flags in the things you've posted. At the least, maybe talk to a registered dietitian (not nutritionist) and consult with a physician. If there turns out that there are problems, maybe they'll be able to point you to a counselor or therapist.
Here is a link to some free resources just in case.
http://myfitnesspal.desk.com/customer/portal/articles/1575987-eating-disorder-resources0 -
I do understand, I have one friend who has an anorexia and she's pretty bad right now. I don't want to end up like her, she looks so sad and depressed. I want to live healthy way. That's why I started to count my calories and to care what I eat.0
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Thank you, I eat like yoghurt with 0% of fats and stuff like that. And I eat a lots of vegetables and fruits. I don't drink coca cola only 100% orange juice but not always. I prefer tea and water. I never felt hungry or any symptom that has to do anything with eating disorder or anything like that.
Let's see ... you misrepresented your age to join a diet site, net far too few calories, have fear of foods, "feel" that you eat too much when eating at a deficit, and then repeatedly deny you have anything resembling a disorder.
Your posts reveal a lot of indicators.0 -
I do understand, I have one friend who has an anorexia and she's pretty bad right now. I don't want to end up like her, she looks so sad and depressed. I want to live healthy way. That's why I started to count my calories and to care what I eat.
Yet you aren't eating enough to fuel your body. It doesn't matter that you are eating all fruits, veggies, etc if you aren't even getting the adequate amount to be healthy. This includes fat. You actually do need fats to function.
Overall, there just seems to be a lot of misunderstanding about food and your habits are concerning (the eating 700 calories, etc).0 -
About age, I had to put more years because I was 17 when I made this and I couldn't make an acc because I was under 18. Tomorrow I will add more food, like junk food? Is that okay, to make a sandwich, with salmon and ketchup and cheese?0
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I do understand, I have one friend who has an anorexia and she's pretty bad right now. I don't want to end up like her, she looks so sad and depressed. I want to live healthy way. That's why I started to count my calories and to care what I eat.
Do you do sports or work out regularly? You don't seem to need to lose weight, instead you should try lifting weights to change how your weight looks on you. It's really easy to get to 1200 if you don't think about food being "good" or "bad".0 -
madslacker wrote: »I stand corrected.
There are no advantages to selecting fresh foods over a Big Mac. Preservatives and pesticides are my friends.
I'm off to drown myself in miller lite and Parkay.
If you're eating Subway so often, you're not eating as "fresh" as you think. That chicken in the sweet onion chicken teriyaki? It comes precut and precooked in plastic bags. It's totally processed chicken product shaped back into chicken-form: chicken breast with rib meat, water, seasoning (corn syrup solids, vinegar powder [maltodextrin, modified corn starch & tapioca starch, dried vinegar], brown sugar, salt, dextrose, garlic powder, onion powder, chicken type flavor [hydrolyzed corn gluten, autolyzed yeast extract, partially hydrogenated soybean oil and cottonseed oil, thiamine hydrochloride, disodium inosinate & disodium guanylate]), sodium phosphate.
Love that "chicken type flavor"!
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About age, I had to put more years because I was 17 when I made this and I couldn't make an acc because I was under 18. Tomorrow I will add more food, like junk food? Is that okay, to make a sandwich, with salmon and ketchup and cheese?
you want a salmon and ketchup and cheese sandwich?
ummm okay sure. LOL i mean if you like it.
i do think you need it re-evaluate your relationship with food and how you perceive it. Right now, you're not in a healthy mindset.0 -
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The majority of this thread...
I can eat to 2000 calories of "good food" no problem. to reach 1200 really isn't that hard - I've seen a couple of good lists of calorie dense foods, start with those. Also I would ditch the fat free dairy - go for full fat, or at least 2%, and you'll get more cals there too. Do not fear fat - our bodies need fats, and consuming fat doesn't make us fat anyway - eating too many calories is the problem. And that's definitely not your problem at the moment anyway, so......
I have lost plenty of fat, changed my body for the better, become far more fit and healthy in my 40's than I was in my 30's, and I still eat fast food, burgers, pizza, desserts, ice cream with my kid after school, etc, just not every single day!
Fuel your body properly, give it the right amount of calories for your stats and activity level, and it will drop the fat, be strong and healthy for workouts and every day life.0 -
OP you don't have to eat 'junk' food, we're just saying it's perfectly okay to do that if that's what you want. But you do need to eat more. The point is you can eat anything that fits into your daily calorie allowance (which needs to be increased, just in case you hadn't gotten that message yet).
And yes, many, many red flags in terms of disordered eating . Please listen to the people saying this, they have your best interests at heart.0
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