Let's clear up a misconception
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JustinAnimal wrote: »
LOL - agree ...
now give me some cadberry (sp) Easter eggs, and I will crush those things...0 -
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Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »
Unfortunately, the ones who need to hear this the most will not hear it. It's all they have. They'll never give up their last ditch argument in favor of common sense.
I hear it loud and clear. I know what he's saying. Some people like myself who got themselves into a bad rut eating processed foods find themselves liberated by not making the diet part and parcel with them - in moderation.
I made mistakes even on here with the 1st Phorm supplements - but I did the right thing and eliminated them for Natural Force - a complete 100% natural protein supplement. Is it "processed" sure, you can't just take Whey Protein from milk and concoct some supplement without processing, but what constitutes the powder once it's created - that's what counts. If it says "Natural and Artificial" in it, it's bad news. If it says "Enriched Flour", no thanks. If it says "aspartame", "sucralose", or any other artificial sweetener not deemed safe, forget it.
I don't think processed foods are a necessary component of a balanced diet - hence why I can't endorse what he's saying but I can understand from his perspective why he's saying it.0 -
tincanonastring wrote: »
You don't eat the eyes because you want them to watch you as you eat them, don't you?0 -
JustinAnimal wrote: »I don't know... I mean, I'm not disagreeing with the OP at all. But some of these responses... a whole pizza... bacon... yeah, they have macronutrients but will not help me with macronutrient goals. If I ate a whole pizza, I'd have to try like hell to make up the protein to balance it with the fat and carbs. Are we talking chicken breast and cottage cheese pizza? Typically, the proteins on a pizza are at least 50% fat (and some type of sausage), be it salami, pepperoni or Italian sausage... or bacon... or linguica or ground beef or meatballs.
Or maybe I'm assuming too much. Do most of you not have macro goals and just follow CICO? I know my protein goal is somewhat high at 40%.
I know what you mean. There are days where I'm lazy and I eat from McDonald's for the entire day, and even when picking out their higher protein choices, I can never eat enough to satisfy my hunger without going way over in calories.0 -
Last Saturday, I skipped breakfast, ate a small turkey sandwich with cherry tomatoes for lunch, then went and watched SPONGEBOB at the theaters with my DD and 2 of her friends while chowing down 2 hot dogs, a tray of nachos with cheese, a small pop corn, box of Milk Duds and a diet Coke. For dinner I had a chicken breast with a little Terriyaki sauce on top and a whole bag of spinach.
Good thing I don't go to the movies all the time.
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JustinAnimal wrote: »
LOL - agree ...
now give me some cadberry (sp) Easter eggs, and I will crush those things...
My most favorite Easter treat ever! When I was a kid, my parents would hide those for our Easter egg hunt. My brother would get so mad because I would always find them first and hoard them...
I have eagle eyes!0 -
tedboosalis7 wrote: »If it says "aspartame", "sucralose", or any other artificial sweetener not deemed safe, forget it.
Not deemed safe by whom?0 -
JustinAnimal wrote: »
LOL - agree ...
now give me some cadberry (sp) Easter eggs, and I will crush those things...
I'm not a huge Peeps fan. I'll eat them occasionally. They're just too sweet for me. I like the Cadbury Caramel Eggs. The regular Eggs are also too sweet for me. So weird. I'm generally a HUGE sweets fan. I guess there always a few exceptions.
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mamapeach910 wrote: »Rather than suggest that, or even just leave the thread altogether, they keep arguing about word choices.
This kind of thing goes on in many threads...if they get long enough, you'll see...
Try saying something about your "diet."
And someone will chirp "It's not a diet. Diets fail. Make a lifestyle change!
When acutally - what you eat on a regular basis...is....your...diet.
But you have to make sure you word it properly so someone with an issue with words doesn't come and correct you.
You'll even see someone making fun of my comment about not calling junk food junk food..and calling it "fun" food. In the context of this thread, the idea was it was to be an occasional treat added to a nutritionally sound diet (oops, lifestyle change, ) that meets most if not all of your daily macros...just for FUN. Not for every meal, every day...and then he suggested that we rename diabetes to "diafunbetes" or something like that and added "fun" to other words like cholesterol etc. When if anyone had bothered to read the context of the discussion (the serious one, not the silly sarcasm posts..) they would know what I meant. Unless I misinterpreted the mocking...which I doubt...but hey. I could, I suppose, call it "bullying" too...but....
I really don't like the way the term bullying is thrown around these days. Everything that is not in agreement is "bullying" to some people. Wow...maybe it's time everyone puts their big person panties on and just listens to one another.
I don't think it's bullying, but I do think it's hypocrisy. People go in those threads to troll and argue, or sit back with popcorn and watch the arguing. Why not just admit it, instead of pretending they're doing it for some greater good? Think how much time would be saved if they'd just admit, "I really don't care if you listen to me or not, I'm just here to poke you with a stick to see how long it takes to make you blow up or leave the site?"
Is walking, chip on your shoulder listed in the MFP exercise data base?
So you think you have everyone on "the other side" and their motives all sussed out here. I'm just speechless. You are making so many assumptions that it's making my head spin.
It's great that you low carb and found a way of eating that fits great for you, but seriously, everyone else who low carbs is now under your protection and exempt from any sort of criticism? It really, really comes across that way from your posts.
Thanks for the assumptions and sussing of my motives there. You are always free to ignore and move on. All I've ever asked is why some people, and I never said it's all of them, never choose that option? It's the internet, and unless this is the only website someone has ever used in their life, it's blatantly obvious why it happens, so why not just admit it? Some already have in the confessions thread. Seems to me the high horse is pretending that's not what's going on.0 -
Last Saturday, I skipped breakfast, ate a small turkey sandwich with cherry tomatoes for lunch, then went and watched SPONGEBOB at the theaters with my DD and 2 of her friends while chowing down 2 hot dogs, a tray of nachos with cheese, a small pop corn, box of Milk Duds and a diet Coke. For dinner I had a chicken breast with a little Terriyaki sauce on top and a whole bag of spinach.
Good thing I don't go to the movies all the time.
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IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
It's Spongebob's fault. That movie had me wanting to do anything to avoid watching it.
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tedboosalis7 wrote: »Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »
Unfortunately, the ones who need to hear this the most will not hear it. It's all they have. They'll never give up their last ditch argument in favor of common sense.
I hear it loud and clear. I know what he's saying. Some people like myself who got themselves into a bad rut eating processed foods find themselves liberated by not making the diet part and parcel with them - in moderation.
I made mistakes even on here with the 1st Phorm supplements - but I did the right thing and eliminated them for Natural Force - a complete 100% natural protein supplement. Is it "processed" sure, you can't just take Whey Protein from milk and concoct some supplement without processing, but what constitutes the powder once it's created - that's what counts. If it says "Natural and Artificial" in it, it's bad news. If it says "Enriched Flour", no thanks. If it says "aspartame", "sucralose", or any other artificial sweetener not deemed safe, forget it.
I don't think processed foods are a necessary component of a balanced diet - hence why I can't endorse what he's saying but I can understand from his perspective why he's saying it.
Strong words for a man who eats canned salmon, Chipotle, almond milk and yogurt regularly.-1 -
mamapeach910 wrote: »
I hate Circus Peanuts. When I was little, I ate almost an entire bag of them all by myself. I ate so many that I threw them all up.
I have not willingly eaten another Circus Peanut since I was about 5 years old.
But Peeps! Peeps=goodness.0 -
Last Saturday, I skipped breakfast, ate a small turkey sandwich with cherry tomatoes for lunch, then went and watched SPONGEBOB at the theaters with my DD and 2 of her friends while chowing down 2 hot dogs, a tray of nachos with cheese, a small pop corn, box of Milk Duds and a diet Coke. For dinner I had a chicken breast with a little Terriyaki sauce on top and a whole bag of spinach.
Good thing I don't go to the movies all the time.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
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stevencloser wrote: »tedboosalis7 wrote: »If it says "aspartame", "sucralose", or any other artificial sweetener not deemed safe, forget it.
Not deemed safe by whom?
Scientific research that isn't part and parcel with the FDA.
Instead of trying to find the sources - I will let one source provide all the sources you need as all of authority nutrition's information is sourced from the very sources you would want.
Here's three examples:
authoritynutrition.com/artificial-sweeteners-and-weight-gain/
authoritynutrition.com/why-is-diet-soda-bad-for-you/
authoritynutrition.com/top-11-biggest-lies-of-the-food-industry/
Here are a couple of alternatives if you are looking to remain healthy and viable for the next 20 years:
authoritynutrition.com/stevia/
authoritynutrition.com/erythritol/
authoritynutrition.com/why-is-stevia-good-for-you/
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-siiiigh- Why did I know this was going to be your answer?0
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tedboosalis7 wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »tedboosalis7 wrote: »If it says "aspartame", "sucralose", or any other artificial sweetener not deemed safe, forget it.
Not deemed safe by whom?
Scientific research that isn't part and parcel with the FDA.
Instead of trying to find the sources - I will let one source provide all the sources you need as all of authority nutrition's information is sourced from the very sources you would want.
Here's three examples:
authoritynutrition.com/artificial-sweeteners-and-weight-gain/
authoritynutrition.com/why-is-diet-soda-bad-for-you/
authoritynutrition.com/top-11-biggest-lies-of-the-food-industry/
Here are a couple of alternatives if you are looking to remain healthy and viable for the next 20 years:
authoritynutrition.com/stevia/
authoritynutrition.com/erythritol/
authoritynutrition.com/why-is-stevia-good-for-you/
It good to see a nice variety of peer reviewed sources...1 -
JustinAnimal wrote: »
LOL - agree ...
now give me some cadberry (sp) Easter eggs, and I will crush those things...
I'm not a huge Peeps fan. I'll eat them occasionally. They're just too sweet for me. I like the Cadbury Caramel Eggs. The regular Eggs are also too sweet for me. So weird. I'm generally a HUGE sweets fan. I guess there always a few exceptions.
Yeah it's not just you. I'd pick sweets over savory pretty much anytime but I couldn't stomach the regular creme eggs either. I still have a hard time with a lot of artificially sweetened stuff because it's too sweet too (like the 'magic pudding' protein powder I bought. At that price, I just want to cry, plus it makes me crave carbs like crazy).0 -
tedboosalis7 wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »tedboosalis7 wrote: »If it says "aspartame", "sucralose", or any other artificial sweetener not deemed safe, forget it.
Not deemed safe by whom?
Scientific research that isn't part and parcel with the FDA.
Instead of trying to find the sources - I will let one source provide all the sources you need as all of authority nutrition's information is sourced from the very sources you would want.
Here's three examples:
authoritynutrition.com/artificial-sweeteners-and-weight-gain/
authoritynutrition.com/why-is-diet-soda-bad-for-you/
authoritynutrition.com/top-11-biggest-lies-of-the-food-industry/
Here are a couple of alternatives if you are looking to remain healthy and viable for the next 20 years:
authoritynutrition.com/stevia/
authoritynutrition.com/erythritol/
authoritynutrition.com/why-is-stevia-good-for-you/
Why do you vomit this junk out into every thread you enter?0 -
mamapeach910 wrote: »Rather than suggest that, or even just leave the thread altogether, they keep arguing about word choices.
This kind of thing goes on in many threads...if they get long enough, you'll see...
Try saying something about your "diet."
And someone will chirp "It's not a diet. Diets fail. Make a lifestyle change!
When acutally - what you eat on a regular basis...is....your...diet.
But you have to make sure you word it properly so someone with an issue with words doesn't come and correct you.
You'll even see someone making fun of my comment about not calling junk food junk food..and calling it "fun" food. In the context of this thread, the idea was it was to be an occasional treat added to a nutritionally sound diet (oops, lifestyle change, ) that meets most if not all of your daily macros...just for FUN. Not for every meal, every day...and then he suggested that we rename diabetes to "diafunbetes" or something like that and added "fun" to other words like cholesterol etc. When if anyone had bothered to read the context of the discussion (the serious one, not the silly sarcasm posts..) they would know what I meant. Unless I misinterpreted the mocking...which I doubt...but hey. I could, I suppose, call it "bullying" too...but....
I really don't like the way the term bullying is thrown around these days. Everything that is not in agreement is "bullying" to some people. Wow...maybe it's time everyone puts their big person panties on and just listens to one another.
I don't think it's bullying, but I do think it's hypocrisy. People go in those threads to troll and argue, or sit back with popcorn and watch the arguing. Why not just admit it, instead of pretending they're doing it for some greater good? Think how much time would be saved if they'd just admit, "I really don't care if you listen to me or not, I'm just here to poke you with a stick to see how long it takes to make you blow up or leave the site?"
Is walking, chip on your shoulder listed in the MFP exercise data base?
So you think you have everyone on "the other side" and their motives all sussed out here. I'm just speechless. You are making so many assumptions that it's making my head spin.
It's great that you low carb and found a way of eating that fits great for you, but seriously, everyone else who low carbs is now under your protection and exempt from any sort of criticism? It really, really comes across that way from your posts.
Thanks for the assumptions and sussing of my motives there. You are always free to ignore and move on. All I've ever asked is why some people, and I never said it's all of them, never choose that option? It's the internet, and unless this is the only website someone has ever used in their life, it's blatantly obvious why it happens, so why not just admit it? Some already have in the confessions thread. Seems to me the high horse is pretending that's not what's going on.
Why do you allow how everyone else responds to thread affect your emotions so much? That's not healthy.
It doesn't, though I think it's interesting that's your immediate assumption. I dislike *kitten*, and 99% of the reasons people give for why they're having those monster argument threads are exactly that. I'm sorry that offends you so much. Actually, I'm not. I really don't care if it does. It is kind of fascinating to me, in one thread you'll see a group of people insisting it's all tough love and they don't care, but the second anyone questions their motives, the butthurt flows.
Why should anyone respect the advice of someone who can't even admit that sometimes their posts are serious, and sometimes their posts are just a poke with a stick?0 -
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I don't think it's bullying, but I do think it's hypocrisy. People go in those threads to troll and argue, or sit back with popcorn and watch the arguing. Why not just admit it, instead of pretending they're doing it for some greater good? Think how much time would be saved if they'd just admit, "I really don't care if you listen to me or not, I'm just here to poke you with a stick to see how long it takes to make you blow up or leave the site?"
+1 I definitely will not be posting help wanted threads on the main forums here!
I hate the feel of this thread that if you don't do it my way, you must have "misconceptions". I'm losing weight, you're losing weight. It's all good. Eat your whole grains, peeps, fruit, no fruit, meat, vegan, whatever works for you!
I may not do it your way but I can respect that you are doing it!0 -
mamapeach910 wrote: »Rather than suggest that, or even just leave the thread altogether, they keep arguing about word choices.
This kind of thing goes on in many threads...if they get long enough, you'll see...
Try saying something about your "diet."
And someone will chirp "It's not a diet. Diets fail. Make a lifestyle change!
When acutally - what you eat on a regular basis...is....your...diet.
But you have to make sure you word it properly so someone with an issue with words doesn't come and correct you.
You'll even see someone making fun of my comment about not calling junk food junk food..and calling it "fun" food. In the context of this thread, the idea was it was to be an occasional treat added to a nutritionally sound diet (oops, lifestyle change, ) that meets most if not all of your daily macros...just for FUN. Not for every meal, every day...and then he suggested that we rename diabetes to "diafunbetes" or something like that and added "fun" to other words like cholesterol etc. When if anyone had bothered to read the context of the discussion (the serious one, not the silly sarcasm posts..) they would know what I meant. Unless I misinterpreted the mocking...which I doubt...but hey. I could, I suppose, call it "bullying" too...but....
I really don't like the way the term bullying is thrown around these days. Everything that is not in agreement is "bullying" to some people. Wow...maybe it's time everyone puts their big person panties on and just listens to one another.
I don't think it's bullying, but I do think it's hypocrisy. People go in those threads to troll and argue, or sit back with popcorn and watch the arguing. Why not just admit it, instead of pretending they're doing it for some greater good? Think how much time would be saved if they'd just admit, "I really don't care if you listen to me or not, I'm just here to poke you with a stick to see how long it takes to make you blow up or leave the site?"
Is walking, chip on your shoulder listed in the MFP exercise data base?
So you think you have everyone on "the other side" and their motives all sussed out here. I'm just speechless. You are making so many assumptions that it's making my head spin.
It's great that you low carb and found a way of eating that fits great for you, but seriously, everyone else who low carbs is now under your protection and exempt from any sort of criticism? It really, really comes across that way from your posts.
Thanks for the assumptions and sussing of my motives there. You are always free to ignore and move on. All I've ever asked is why some people, and I never said it's all of them, never choose that option? It's the internet, and unless this is the only website someone has ever used in their life, it's blatantly obvious why it happens, so why not just admit it? Some already have in the confessions thread. Seems to me the high horse is pretending that's not what's going on.
Why do you allow how everyone else responds to thread affect your emotions so much? That's not healthy.
It doesn't, though I think it's interesting that's your immediate assumption. I dislike *kitten*, and 99% of the reasons people give for why they're having those monster argument threads are exactly that. I'm sorry that offends you so much. Actually, I'm not. I really don't care if it does. It is kind of fascinating to me, in one thread you'll see a group of people insisting it's all tough love and they don't care, but the second anyone questions their motives, the butthurt flows.
Why should anyone respect the advice of someone who can't even admit that sometimes their posts are serious, and sometimes their posts are just a poke with a stick?
So you're in here arguing for the greater good of clearing up BS?
I don't understand why you accuse us of arguing not because we are trying to clear up misconceptions about topics that we care about, but because we like to argue.
Yet here you are doing the exact same thing under the same guise of clearing up BS.0 -
mamapeach910 wrote: »Rather than suggest that, or even just leave the thread altogether, they keep arguing about word choices.
This kind of thing goes on in many threads...if they get long enough, you'll see...
Try saying something about your "diet."
And someone will chirp "It's not a diet. Diets fail. Make a lifestyle change!
When acutally - what you eat on a regular basis...is....your...diet.
But you have to make sure you word it properly so someone with an issue with words doesn't come and correct you.
You'll even see someone making fun of my comment about not calling junk food junk food..and calling it "fun" food. In the context of this thread, the idea was it was to be an occasional treat added to a nutritionally sound diet (oops, lifestyle change, ) that meets most if not all of your daily macros...just for FUN. Not for every meal, every day...and then he suggested that we rename diabetes to "diafunbetes" or something like that and added "fun" to other words like cholesterol etc. When if anyone had bothered to read the context of the discussion (the serious one, not the silly sarcasm posts..) they would know what I meant. Unless I misinterpreted the mocking...which I doubt...but hey. I could, I suppose, call it "bullying" too...but....
I really don't like the way the term bullying is thrown around these days. Everything that is not in agreement is "bullying" to some people. Wow...maybe it's time everyone puts their big person panties on and just listens to one another.
I don't think it's bullying, but I do think it's hypocrisy. People go in those threads to troll and argue, or sit back with popcorn and watch the arguing. Why not just admit it, instead of pretending they're doing it for some greater good? Think how much time would be saved if they'd just admit, "I really don't care if you listen to me or not, I'm just here to poke you with a stick to see how long it takes to make you blow up or leave the site?"
Is walking, chip on your shoulder listed in the MFP exercise data base?
So you think you have everyone on "the other side" and their motives all sussed out here. I'm just speechless. You are making so many assumptions that it's making my head spin.
It's great that you low carb and found a way of eating that fits great for you, but seriously, everyone else who low carbs is now under your protection and exempt from any sort of criticism? It really, really comes across that way from your posts.
Thanks for the assumptions and sussing of my motives there. You are always free to ignore and move on. All I've ever asked is why some people, and I never said it's all of them, never choose that option? It's the internet, and unless this is the only website someone has ever used in their life, it's blatantly obvious why it happens, so why not just admit it? Some already have in the confessions thread. Seems to me the high horse is pretending that's not what's going on.
Why do you allow how everyone else responds to thread affect your emotions so much? That's not healthy.
It doesn't, though I think it's interesting that's your immediate assumption. I dislike *kitten*, and 99% of the reasons people give for why they're having those monster argument threads are exactly that. I'm sorry that offends you so much. Actually, I'm not. I really don't care if it does. It is kind of fascinating to me, in one thread you'll see a group of people insisting it's all tough love and they don't care, but the second anyone questions their motives, the butthurt flows.
Why should anyone respect the advice of someone who can't even admit that sometimes their posts are serious, and sometimes their posts are just a poke with a stick?
Unless that stick has a peep on it and you're poking it into a fire, I think this conversation should go back to that other thread where it belongs.0 -
I only read the first link you posted, but did you read something completely different? Because the takeaway from the first article was that artificial sweeteners may be helpful in losing weight and that they're not toxic.tedboosalis7 wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »tedboosalis7 wrote: »If it says "aspartame", "sucralose", or any other artificial sweetener not deemed safe, forget it.
Not deemed safe by whom?
Scientific research that isn't part and parcel with the FDA.
Instead of trying to find the sources - I will let one source provide all the sources you need as all of authority nutrition's information is sourced from the very sources you would want.
Here's three examples:
authoritynutrition.com/artificial-sweeteners-and-weight-gain/
authoritynutrition.com/why-is-diet-soda-bad-for-you/
authoritynutrition.com/top-11-biggest-lies-of-the-food-industry/
Here are a couple of alternatives if you are looking to remain healthy and viable for the next 20 years:
authoritynutrition.com/stevia/
authoritynutrition.com/erythritol/
authoritynutrition.com/why-is-stevia-good-for-you/
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You're right. Yes, you.
There, can we move on now???0 -
I ate a 220 calorie cookie from Subway and have had to fight off urges to overeat the rest of that day and the next day. Thank goodness I'm back to normal.0
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