Is anybody else's body put together wrong or is it just me?!
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Mobility work comes in lots of forms, but ultimately it's about doing things that stretch muscles an improve joint movement. Yoga can be great. Stretching is good, too. Foam rolling can be beneficial.
I'm a fan of the Limber 11
https://www.defrancostraining.com/ask-joe/44-flexibilitymobility/302-joe-ds-qlimber-11q-flexibility-routine.html0 -
Mobility work comes in lots of forms, but ultimately it's about doing things that stretch muscles an improve joint movement. Yoga can be great. Stretching is good, too. Foam rolling can be beneficial.
I'm a fan of the Limber 11
https://www.defrancostraining.com/ask-joe/44-flexibilitymobility/302-joe-ds-qlimber-11q-flexibility-routine.html
http://www.allthingsgym.com/mobility101/ as well0 -
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FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »deoliveiraf wrote: »See a chiropractor. He will be able to diagnose whether these 'issues' do exist, and work on getting your body back into alignment if they do actually exist.
OP: Do not see a chiropractor. They can do more harm than good.
If you are concerned, see an orthopedic physician or physical therapist.
Who can also do more harm than good, chiros have worked for me in the past but I wouldn't recommend one in this case.0 -
What's all the hate on chiro's? Mine has done wonders for me.
OP,
Mobility is more than just stretching. Some good links posted, some additional search can provide more.0 -
AllanMisner wrote: »Hold on guys, this might not be as much of a scam as you think. We haven’t seen LittleJem01’s movement patterns. The point the trainer may be making is that you have some muscle imbalances (we all do) and some mobility issues (we all do). There are exercises you can do to address these. But you don’t need a personal trainer to find them. There are plenty of resources online. I’d start with MobilityWOD.com.
Past that, really focus on form when you lift. Take videos from the front and side of each lift and evaluate it afterward. Never add weight if your form isn’t good. You may also want to take advantage of some of the stabilization balls and tools at your gym to ensure you’re building a more stable, balanced musculature to support the other exercise programs you want to do.
This. When I started back at the gym, I had so many imbalances and mobility issues that have taken a long time to correct. Some I'm still working on. Of course the trainer wants to make money off of you--that's his livelihood, but I don't necessarily think he had horrible intentions. He's probably banking on you using his advice to correct these imbalances, but I think you can research and correct a lot on your own.
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What's all the hate on chiro's? Mine has done wonders for me.
OP,
Mobility is more than just stretching. Some good links posted, some additional search can provide more.
A lot of chiros tend to hawk cleanses and awful nutritional advice. At least recently.
I saw one when I was younger for scoliosis and she was great. But the one I saw briefly, recently, I wouldn't give money to.0 -
I have similar problems. I have scoliosis which makes one leg longer than the other and I'm also knock-kneed. I also get super tight hip flexors which can drastically affect posture and thusly lifting (I've thrown out my back a bunch while squatting). I did fork out for custom orthotics which helped a ton with my leg length difference, and correcting my flat arches and over-pronation took a lot of the pressure off my ankles and knees. I always make sure to stretch my hips really well before lifting. And if you google "knock knee squat" there are a lot of videos that show you exercizes to help strengthen the right muscles and correct forms for squatting so you're less likely to hurt your knees. If you're worried about it, definitely have someone give you a look over and then you can go from there
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Lol. So being a personal trainer, I find some of the assessments done by PT's laughable. Sure some people's symmetry can be off...............that's normal. The way people's head tilts, toes turn in out/in, etc. has been a habitual movement that's felt normal to the person for years. Now that's not to say it can't be improved upon, but to make claims that they can be corrected by exercise?
Many of the new PT's today are so annoying since the last few I've met at gyms (before my one where you need a degree), are so much more smoke and mirrors rather than providing some good factual information. The broscience passed on in many fitness gyms is still prevalent and hopefully some will get some good info here that they should "shop" for a good PT rather than just get one handed to them.
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Also, my chiropractor has been awesome about helping me with lifting. I've been seeing him for over a decade and he's been able to tell me which lifts I need to be extra cautious about based on my particular spinal needs, and he gives me lots of stretches and exercizes to help strengthen the places I'm weak so that I don't hurt myself on compound lifts. Some chiros are better than others, for sure, but I wouldn't toss the whole lot of them - some actually know what they're doing (bonus points if they're younger and more recently out of school -- my very old chiro told me not to lift heavy because, as a woman, I didn't need to 'bulk up' -- my significantly younger chiro helped me put together my lifting routine).0
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yes! I've cut my chiro visits from every couple weeks to every couple months just by adding heavy deadlifts to my routine. It's amazing how much it can help.0
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Just a quick note about the head tilt. Sometimes that can be indicative of eyesight issues, most commonly, astigmatism. If this is indeed an issue, I'd suggest having your eyes checked if it hasn't been in a while. I used to tilt my head a lot and thought it was more habit since I'd been doing it since I was a child and it had never been caught because I had 20/15 vision. He said it was a pretty common thing, and glasses fixed the issue right up.
ETA: I also swear by chiropractors. It's common for my joints to pop out of place and 10 minutes 2-3 times a week to start is so worth it. I've also had migraines disappear within 5 minutes of a neck adjustment, so if it's quackery, I'll take it! LOL! I guess my point is, if you find a good, decently priced one who gets right down to business, it takes no time and can do a world of good.0 -
myfelinepal wrote: »How can I describe my emotions at this catastrophe, or how delineate the wretch whom with such infinite pains and care I had endeavoured to form? His limbs were in proportion, and I had selected his features as beautiful. Beautiful! -- Great God! His yellow skin scarcely covered the work of muscles and arteries beneath; his hair was of a lustrous black, and flowing; his teeth of a pearly whiteness; but these luxuriances only formed a more horrid contrast with his watery eyes, that seemed almost of the same colour as the dun white sockets in which they were set, his shrivelled complexion and straight black lips.
So if you do go see a doctor about all this, maybe not THAT doctor...
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Everyone is put together differently and in same way a little wrong. Don't worry about it. You can help correct some of the issues with mobility training...I use mobilitywod (just youtube videos) to help with some of the hip, ankle and shoulder issues I have. Trainers may not just make it up, but they do make sure they point out every tiny thing and make it seem the only way to correct it is by paying them huge dollars.0
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You should think about going to a good yoga instructor and seeing if she/he would consult with you. Yoga is all about alignment and how to strengthen your body (without equipment, chiropractors etc.) It is worth looking into, & that's a very good way to go.0
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Did he actually say "you are put together wrong"?
Its a valid assessment to check for imbalances (that everyone has). How much he exaggerated them is another matter.0 -
When I started having problems with my knees my physiotherapist started me on a round of exercises intended to strengthen my core, increase flexibility in my hips, and strengthen my knees. I am happy to report that my knees are much improved.
I also favour one side over the other, and that is slowly rebalancing as I stretch out both sides.
This set of exercises are similar to what my physiotherapist has me on, and they are free.
http://www.triglifeservices.com/blog/?p=2024
I also do a sort of Yoga once a week which has really helped my flexibility and mobility. I can pop up from a prone position for instance, and crouch down to pick up a penny. This may seem pretty ordinary to many people but believe me, ninety pounds ago these things were hard.
So if you are out of alignment, these sorts of exercises will help, and then you can do the combination of cardio and lifting that you enjoy along with these with less concern about injury.0 -
FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »deoliveiraf wrote: »See a chiropractor. He will be able to diagnose whether these 'issues' do exist, and work on getting your body back into alignment if they do actually exist.
OP: Do not see a chiropractor. They can do more harm than good.
If you are concerned, see an orthopedic physician or physical therapist.
Who can also do more harm than good, chiros have worked for me in the past but I wouldn't recommend one in this case.
MD's and PT's do not do what chiropractors do. Don't even bother trying to compare the two.
Neck and spinal adjustments can lead to damage of neck arteries which can cause a stroke. I know 3 people this has happened to. One ended up paralyzed after visiting a chiropractor, another died from the stroke, and the other suffered a stroke and survived but had to relearn how to walk, talk, and how to do basic day-to-day activities.
I currently have a coworker who goes to a chiropractor and he did something that caused her to faint the other week.
Sorry but I would NEVER recommend a chiro to anyone.
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He may be a salesman, and he may not have the knowledge to make a medical assessment, but I bet he's seeing something wonky. He could equally well have tried to sell you other kinds of training, no reason for him to get all diagnose-y.
Physiotherapist, not chiro. There is some chiro, usually practiced by people working in sports med clinics, that is appropriately MSK focused and basically amounts to massage (NOT spinal manipulation, steer clear of that!), but a lot that is rooted in quackery, and there's no way to know the difference if you don't know the difference already, if you know what I mean. Original chiropractic is based on some kooky stuff.
Wikipedia on the controversies
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chiropractic_controversy_and_criticism
(I too would never see a chiro)0 -
LittleJem01 wrote: »...but that's not part of the free assessment...
Surprise, surprise.
Ignore him. Almost everybody's body is unbalanced in various ways - it's normal, and unless it's causing you real-world problems, don't worry about it.
Better yet - fire him and find an honest trainer.0 -
I would go see a doctor and run far from this trainer. I have worked with a personal trainer for over 1 1/2 and she never once has given me any advise like that. I mean she did tell me that she can tell its me running down the road by the way I carry my hands but has never tried to correct it or even said it was bad for that matter.0
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Okay I'm never going to see a personal trainer now. Not that I ever really wanted to but...golly. What a story!
You're going to let 1 person's story, 1 isolated incident impact your behavior??? As with any profession, there are good ones and there are bad ones. Do a little research first, if you can, then If you get a bad one just move on to the next.0 -
I think that unless you have an elbow where your forehead should be, you're put together perfectly fine.
You found a quack of a trainer who needs to use fear tactics to sell his services rather than quality instruction and motivation.
Anyone want to start a pool on the next session being a "nutrition consultation" that would end with Broscience diet recommendations and a laundry list of "essential" supplements that would add another fifty quid or so per month to his bill?0 -
My husband has scoliosis (diagnosed by an actual dr). He still lifts and runs. Soooo...yeah, you should be fine to lift (with a different trainer).0
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Strangely enough he did mention that he sells supplements at a "competitive price"...!!Anyone want to start a pool on the next session being a "nutrition consultation" that would end with Broscience diet recommendations and a laundry list of "essential" supplements that would add another fifty quid or so per month to his bill?
I wasn't really looking for a regular PT, it was just a free intro session offered by the gym when I signed up. I had hoped he'd give me a programme outline to follow as has happened in other gyms I've been at in the past but because it's a budget-price gym apparently they wont help with designing a fitness programme unless you're paying extra for the PT service. Not the best set-up but the facility itself is decent and it's very local too so I'll stick with it and just do some research on the best exercises to help me get where i want to be ... and keep a physio on speed dial just in case lol. Thanks everyone for your input, links and suggestions - I'm off home to plunder the internet!
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LittleJem01 wrote: »
Strangely enough he did mention that he sells supplements at a "competitive price"...!!Anyone want to start a pool on the next session being a "nutrition consultation" that would end with Broscience diet recommendations and a laundry list of "essential" supplements that would add another fifty quid or so per month to his bill?
I wasn't really looking for a regular PT, it was just a free intro session offered by the gym when I signed up. I had hoped he'd give me a programme outline to follow as has happened in other gyms I've been at in the past but because it's a budget-price gym apparently they wont help with designing a fitness programme unless you're paying extra for the PT service. Not the best set-up but the facility itself is decent and it's very local too so I'll stick with it and just do some research on the best exercises to help me get where i want to be ... and keep a physio on speed dial just in case lol. Thanks everyone for your input, links and suggestions - I'm off home to plunder the internet!
Yeaaaaaay!0 -
LittleJem01 wrote: »
Strangely enough he did mention that he sells supplements at a "competitive price"...!!Anyone want to start a pool on the next session being a "nutrition consultation" that would end with Broscience diet recommendations and a laundry list of "essential" supplements that would add another fifty quid or so per month to his bill?
I wasn't really looking for a regular PT, it was just a free intro session offered by the gym when I signed up. I had hoped he'd give me a programme outline to follow as has happened in other gyms I've been at in the past but because it's a budget-price gym apparently they wont help with designing a fitness programme unless you're paying extra for the PT service. Not the best set-up but the facility itself is decent and it's very local too so I'll stick with it and just do some research on the best exercises to help me get where i want to be ... and keep a physio on speed dial just in case lol. Thanks everyone for your input, links and suggestions - I'm off home to plunder the internet!
I am not aware of any gyms that will help design a fitness programme unless you pay extra.
If you let people know your goals and preferences, they can possibly help with directing you to a good routine.
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What's all the hate on chiro's? Mine has done wonders for me.
Mine as well. There are plenty of horrible ones out there, but you can say that about any profession. He corrected a neck injury about five years ago that unresponsive to any other treatment I had tried, including several months of physical therapy. And when I herniated a disc a couple of years ago, I was back on my feet and pain free within a month.
My chiro does not push or even bring up diet or cleanses or any of that nonsense with me. And he thinks is super awesome that I lift now.0 -
That personal trainer sounds like a donkey....you're put together wrong? Whaaa?!
Others summed up my thoughts on that already..just had to mention, for the first in forever, I flashed back to when I was a kid and would play with my Mr. Potato Head...Id do stuff like stick his arms in his nose, and his ear in his eye..and be all "Now you're perfect!"
Makes me think he used to do stuff like that too. At least I didn't grow up to be a doctor or a personal trainer...thank goodness for small favours eh? hahaha!0 -
I am not aware of any gyms that will help design a fitness programme unless you pay extra.
If you let people know your goals and preferences, they can possibly help with directing you to a good routine.
The two previous gyms I've been a member of over the years have had programme design and regular reviews included in the basic fee package (albeit a higher cost than I'm paying now) - maybe I've just been spoiled lol.
Having seen your profile pics @Sarauk2sf I think my ultimate aim is now to have a body like yours!! Short/medium term though I'd like to improve my cardio - aim is to be able to run a 10k by September (started c25k with pretty much a zero running capability) - and also learn to lift. I've only ever used machines in the past and not for years so I'm starting from scratch there as well. On the machines I can currently leg press 117 and bench a pathetic 50 but I've only been back in the gym about 10 days. I'm trying to eat at around a 700cal deficit at the moment aiming to drop around another 10lb, although as long as my shape improves I'm not too fussed about what the scales show.
I don't know if that's the kind of info that would be helpful in terms of suggestions for a routine but if anyone has any ideas I'd really appreciate it. I'm going to start the Limber 11 that was suggested earlier to try and address some of the mobility issues, and I've been looking at Strong Curves too for lifting - does anyone have any experience of that or thoughts on it as a starting point? I'm really grateful for all the advice so far 0
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