Type II Diabetic getting sick

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  • tinascar2015
    tinascar2015 Posts: 413 Member
    Wait until you see your doctor. Advice from any internet forum might be good, might be not so good, but you never know what applies to you. I've never had any symptoms of diabetes, yet I barely flunked a fasting blood glucose test just this morning. I have no intention of taking advice from anyone who isn't my doctor. Your health is far too important. Every one's body is different. I'll give you an example. Some years ago when suffering from anxiety and depression, I read all about Lexapro and how effective it was, so when my doctor wanted to put me on Zoloft, I disagreed and insisted on Lexapro. Two doses of Lexapro and I was psychotic, nearly ended up in the ER. So, Zoloft it was, and I was fine with it.

    I'm not criticizing anyone's responses here. It's just that we're all really strangers, and none of us are doctors, much less doctors who have examined the OP.
  • Sugarbeat
    Sugarbeat Posts: 824 Member
    edited March 2015
    dbmata wrote: »
    have you kept an accurate glucose level log paired with an accurate and precise food log to start seeing if there are any correlations? Have you invested the time to find which glucose level is optimal for your well being?

    If no to either, I would think you have a little homework.

    I'll second this. There are foods that are lower carb that should be fine for me but throw my levels out of whack. When you say sick, are you dizzy and shaky or is sick to your stomach? I'm guessing the former as that is what sick feels like to me. I was getting this through the day and stopped taking the AM dose of Metformin. I'm not saying this is what you should do or what is causing it, but you might look into it. Are your fasting levels high?
  • gaurdgoose
    gaurdgoose Posts: 106 Member
    Definitely take your dietary records and Blood sugar records to the doctor when you go. The one thing I noticed on your food is that you are getting very little fiber/vegetables in your diet. Fiber affects the food is absorbed and utilized in the body
  • PinkandBlack87
    PinkandBlack87 Posts: 41
    I believe what's going on is your body got use to high sugar levels, now you are on medication to drop your levels, your body thinks your sugar levels are too low when its actually in the normal range. Definitely talk to your doctor
  • stealthq
    stealthq Posts: 4,298 Member
    tinascar2015 wrote: »
    Wait until you see your doctor. Advice from any internet forum might be good, might be not so good, but you never know what applies to you. I've never had any symptoms of diabetes, yet I barely flunked a fasting blood glucose test just this morning. I have no intention of taking advice from anyone who isn't my doctor. Your health is far too important. Every one's body is different. I'll give you an example. Some years ago when suffering from anxiety and depression, I read all about Lexapro and how effective it was, so when my doctor wanted to put me on Zoloft, I disagreed and insisted on Lexapro. Two doses of Lexapro and I was psychotic, nearly ended up in the ER. So, Zoloft it was, and I was fine with it.

    I'm not criticizing anyone's responses here. It's just that we're all really strangers, and none of us are doctors, much less doctors who have examined the OP.

    I will lay odds that at least some people who post on MFP are medical doctors, just as several here are PhDs, though they might not have replied to this thread. They should be able to give sound advice even without personal experience with OP's case. Probably along the lines of 'work with your current doctor or get a second opinion'.
  • asahelgridley
    asahelgridley Posts: 1
    edited March 2015
    Seeing your doc about this is best advice .
  • ansonrinesmith
    ansonrinesmith Posts: 741 Member
    gaurdgoose wrote: »
    Definitely take your dietary records and Blood sugar records to the doctor when you go. The one thing I noticed on your food is that you are getting very little fiber/vegetables in your diet. Fiber affects the food is absorbed and utilized in the body

    I take fiber supplements, that I do not record.
  • auddii
    auddii Posts: 15,357 Member
    stealthq wrote: »
    tinascar2015 wrote: »
    Wait until you see your doctor. Advice from any internet forum might be good, might be not so good, but you never know what applies to you. I've never had any symptoms of diabetes, yet I barely flunked a fasting blood glucose test just this morning. I have no intention of taking advice from anyone who isn't my doctor. Your health is far too important. Every one's body is different. I'll give you an example. Some years ago when suffering from anxiety and depression, I read all about Lexapro and how effective it was, so when my doctor wanted to put me on Zoloft, I disagreed and insisted on Lexapro. Two doses of Lexapro and I was psychotic, nearly ended up in the ER. So, Zoloft it was, and I was fine with it.

    I'm not criticizing anyone's responses here. It's just that we're all really strangers, and none of us are doctors, much less doctors who have examined the OP.

    I will lay odds that at least some people who post on MFP are medical doctors, just as several here are PhDs, though they might not have replied to this thread. They should be able to give sound advice even without personal experience with OP's case. Probably along the lines of 'work with your current doctor or get a second opinion'.

    No doctor is going to give medical advice over the internet in a random forum. I'm friends with several, and they always hate it when we ask them a random question; I'll get told to ask my actual doctor (they are more responsive to hypothetical or general questions). It's bad medicine to try and diagnose a problem without the complete workup and data.
  • Lizzy622
    Lizzy622 Posts: 3,705 Member
    I took a quick peek at your dairy and notice some meals have almost no carbs while others are fairly high. Although your numbers may work for the day, you may want to try to pre log and get a more balanced spread of carbs through the day. I would definitely ask your doctor about a referral to a dietitian specializing in diabetics. Seeing a dietitian helped my mom get better control and lessened the swings.
  • ScribbleFace1987
    ScribbleFace1987 Posts: 1 Member
    I'm a type 1 so slightly different to you but a lot of the basics for diabetes management are similar - so I thought I'd chip in but I'd recommend talking to your doctor about the nausea and odd symptoms despite good sugar readings.

    However, it sounds like it would be a good idea to test your ketone levels. Your doctor should have given you some method of testing (usually they're sticks that you dip into a urine sample and it changes colour or a tester similar to your glucose tester). If the ketone reading is higher than 0.6 (or the colour of the stick is the colour indicated on the instructions as ketones present) then you will have evidence that your doctor needs to do something to help you.

    Usually diabetic ketoacidosis is a type 1 issue due to poor insulin management but they have identified that a low carb diet can cause this in type 2's. One of the main symptoms is nausea and when I was unfortunate enough to develop it due to an intolerance to my insulin i found that i felt incredibly sick after any meal, breathless, blurred vision, confusion and shakes (all of which are my hypo symptoms).

    If there are no ketones in your urine then its possible that your body has conditioned itself to expect higher sugar levels and it believes that the normal levels are actually low levels. You may need time to acclimatise to normal sugar levels again.
  • kayeiam
    kayeiam Posts: 215 Member
    djshari wrote: »
    I'm sorry that you aren't finding much support here - people are just throwing information at you without reading that you sound like you're actually doing pretty good other than feeling sick.

    I'm glad that you've kept such detailed logs for your doctor though - I'm sure that will help. While it hasn't happened to me I have heard from others who had such high bs levels for so long that coming back to normal levels made them sick. I don't recall for how long though, and I don't know a lot more than that so I hope you are able to get a resolution from your doctor.

    ^^^^ This.... You didn't mention how long ago you were diagnosed or how long you have been on medicine. But when a person (diabetic), first starts to lower their blood sugars it will make you sick feeling even if the blood sugars are in normal or high range. Your body is so use to working under high blood sugar that it response to the lower blood sugars with making you feel sick (hypo).

    Let your doctor know how your feeling and show him your logs. Also, do you just test your sugar once a day? If so try testing a few times a day. You may have lower bs's at one time and high the next etc.

    The website the other poster gave you is an excellent website. It explains a lot, it also talks about the different medicines diabetic's use. the good and bad of those meds etc. It would be benifitial for you to take the time to check that website out. 101bloodsugar
  • kayeiam
    kayeiam Posts: 215 Member
    I take glyburide. It works different than metformin. Metformin works over time to it's max potential (3 weeks I believe). Glyburide, will asap lower your glucose levels. It works in the range of time taken to 8-12 hrs.

    I use to feel like you when I was first diagnosed and my sugar dropped from 265-300 range to 100 -150 range. I was whooooowee, I don't feel right. It took more than a few weeks, I would say a few months and then my body started to wake up and realize the lower sugars was better. At the time, I thought I felt better before, then when I got my sugars down 70-80's it was the best I had felt in a long long time. I just never realized it till I got my sugars down and my body adjusted... Please tell your doctor how your feeling. But remember they do say any BS over 146 will cause tissue/organ damage. It just isn't worth it.
  • blktngldhrt
    blktngldhrt Posts: 1,053 Member
    wils5150 wrote: »
    hey dude type 2 myself. It may take some time for your body to get used to your new low. I know mine did. I just recently stopped taking my glipizide because it was dropping my sugar into the 40's.

    This. And man.. 40s are no fun.

    OP: Firstly, I have to mention I am not a type 2..i'm a hypoglycemic.

    How often are you testing your bg? Do you notice any large drops within a short period of time? If so, you can feel hypoglycemic symptoms even without going lower than 70. Also, with what wils said..its common to feel too low at normal levels after being used to your bg being regularly higher. This is similar to what some people go through when first starting the ketogenic diet.

    What sucks is that there are so many different things it could be..and they all have similar symptoms. Hopefully your doctor will be able to give you more definitive answers.
  • ahamm002
    ahamm002 Posts: 1,690 Member
    ansonrinesmith wrote: »
    I felt great at 300+

    For how long have maintained a healthy blood sugar? And no, getting down to 100 for an hour a day for a couple weeks doesn't count. You have to tightly control your BS for awhile to readjust what your body thinks is normal. It's very important to make this a priority unless you want to get diabetic retinopathy, kidney failure (dialysis), neuropathy, amputations, etc.,

    In regard to feeling sick, are you just it's *just* your blood sugar? Are you avoiding caffeine too? Are you doing anything else differently?
  • spoonyspork
    spoonyspork Posts: 238 Member
    OP -- definitely go on advice of your doctor. Without going into too much detail, MIL recently passed away after deciding to just 'go with what felt best' to manage her blood sugar. Started several years ago when she was so delirious we pretty much carried her to the hospital -- where her bg was way WAY above normal - WAY above even 'medical emergency'. IIRC it was 4500, but for sure over 2000. The doctors had no idea how she was even conscious at all. She was put on lots of meds, but when they'd drop her to normal she felt sick, so weaned herself off most without doctor approval and figured she was 'fine' under 500 as she 'felt' fine there and sick below 100. Passed away within two years. Never lost eyesight or limbs, never had any of the weird skin things that often go with the disease (other than cuts taking *forever* to heal): all the damage was happening in her heart. Not trying to scare you, but telling you it's important to listen to your doctor.

    (she was btw: 100 lbs and 5' at the time her insane blood sugar was discovered. She'd been overweight/obese in the past but had been at the low end of healthy BMI for a long time)
  • aronao
    aronao Posts: 112 Member
    The medications themselves, and not hypoglycaemia, might be causing your symptoms, espcially if you are on max doses. Maybe you need to change your medications or if your sugars aren't controlled on oral meds, you might need insulin. If you aren't already, you need to see a specialist in diabetes.
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