All calories are not created equal
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dpgalbreath wrote: »Lol!!! at you all. Get over yourselves people. These are just MY observations about MY experiences, I did not just fall off the cabbage truck and I'm not telling anyone how to eat. If it OFFENDS you that I'm telling you what I have noticed then I guess you all will have to GET OVER IT!!!
Ironically, that's the first genuinely rude post in the thread.
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yopeeps025 wrote: »From what you wrote in the OP you do not know how this process works. Macro distribution does not matter for weight loss. Unless there is a medical issue.
That's not really correct outside of a narrow theoretical sense, as many people find certain macro ratios easies to handle than others, especially when in a state of caloric deficit.
Macro distribution may not matter for working out CICO equations, but in the real world where real people have to implement and stick to actual meal plans, macros absolutely do matter, for many (possibly most) people.
OP talking about optimal health? Or is she talking about weight loss?
Are you going to lose more weight eating same calorie deficit with different marco %?0 -
yopeeps025 wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »From what you wrote in the OP you do not know how this process works. Macro distribution does not matter for weight loss. Unless there is a medical issue.
That's not really correct outside of a narrow theoretical sense, as many people find certain macro ratios easies to handle than others, especially when in a state of caloric deficit.
Macro distribution may not matter for working out CICO equations, but in the real world where real people have to implement and stick to actual meal plans, macros absolutely do matter, for many (possibly most) people.
OP talking about optimal health? Or is she talking about weight loss?
Doesn't matter.Are you going to lose more weight eating same calorie deficit with different marco %?
That's the wrong question. It is, in fact, a meaningless question that begs its own answer.
If a macro ratio cannot be adhered to, it will not lead to weight loss. Since adherence is a major component of weight loss success, macros matter for weight loss - by definition.
The question that matters is "will this macro distribution, at this caloric intake and this level of caloric output, allow me to maintain a caloric deficit long enough to lose the weight I plan to lose".
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yopeeps025 wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »From what you wrote in the OP you do not know how this process works. Macro distribution does not matter for weight loss. Unless there is a medical issue.
That's not really correct outside of a narrow theoretical sense, as many people find certain macro ratios easies to handle than others, especially when in a state of caloric deficit.
Macro distribution may not matter for working out CICO equations, but in the real world where real people have to implement and stick to actual meal plans, macros absolutely do matter, for many (possibly most) people.
OP talking about optimal health? Or is she talking about weight loss?
Doesn't matter.Are you going to lose more weight eating same calorie deficit with different marco %?
That's the wrong question. It is, in fact, a meaningless question that begs its own answer.
If a macro ratio cannot be adhered to, it will not lead to weight loss. Since adherence is a major component of weight loss success, macros matter for weight loss - by definition.
The question that matters is "will this macro distribution, at this caloric intake and this level of caloric output, allow me to maintain a caloric deficit long enough to lose the weight I plan to lose".
I said calorie deficit so the CI part of the equation has already been stated. Also the calorie deficit covers the CO part too. Calorie deficit equals lose fat/muscle/water right or does it have some complex meaning now?
You seem to make questions more complex than they are. My question was perfectly fine.0 -
yopeeps025 wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »From what you wrote in the OP you do not know how this process works. Macro distribution does not matter for weight loss. Unless there is a medical issue.
That's not really correct outside of a narrow theoretical sense, as many people find certain macro ratios easies to handle than others, especially when in a state of caloric deficit.
Macro distribution may not matter for working out CICO equations, but in the real world where real people have to implement and stick to actual meal plans, macros absolutely do matter, for many (possibly most) people.
OP talking about optimal health? Or is she talking about weight loss?
Doesn't matter.Are you going to lose more weight eating same calorie deficit with different marco %?
That's the wrong question. It is, in fact, a meaningless question that begs its own answer.
If a macro ratio cannot be adhered to, it will not lead to weight loss. Since adherence is a major component of weight loss success, macros matter for weight loss - by definition.
The question that matters is "will this macro distribution, at this caloric intake and this level of caloric output, allow me to maintain a caloric deficit long enough to lose the weight I plan to lose".
I said calorie deficit so the CI part of the equation has already been stated. Also the calorie deficit covers the CO part too. Calorie deficit equals lose fat/muscle/water right or does it have some complex meaning now?
You seem to make questions more complex than they are. My question was perfectly fine.
It's the other way around - you're making the question to simple to make the answers useful in real world application.
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If macros affect body composition over time, then yes, they obviously affect weight loss, LBM is metabolically more active. But within a reasonable set of parameters they are secondary to calories consumed.
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Lezavargas wrote: »dpgalbreath wrote: »I have noticed when my carb count is above 30% on any given day my weight loss stops. Just counting calories isn't the only deciding factor for success in my weight loss.
I'm sure if I were more active that the carbs would burn off quickly and not affect the weight loss as much.
So now that the weather is clearing up the dogs and I are going to be
Out there pouring on the steam and it is back to spinach salads and chicken breast, boiled eggs, and grapefruit and less bread and potatoes.
Even though my calorie count has been 100-300 lower Than suggested before any activity has been calculated everyday my weight loss stopped, and it is way to early in the game for that to be happening.
I run into the same issue. i stay away from refined sugars and processed food most of the time but i find that any breads (even if i make them myself) or pastas in particular stiffle my weightloss. Other carbs dont have the same effect. Everyone's body is different. Listen to the signals that your body sends you. Nobody knows better than you how certain foods are impacting you. Best of luck!
I also lose weight faster if I reduce starchy carbs.
I'm sure for plenty of people that's not an issue, but we all do what works for us.
So, OP, you carry on with what works for you.0 -
Well I wasn't trying to be rude. I am Not claiming to be dietitian. I'm just a person who joined a group of others who are supposedly doing the same thing and I suppose looking for support from each other, not ridicule because I made a statement that in some opinions was not "scientifically correct". I simply was making an observation on my diary sight under the nutritional breakdown that this sight provides based on my diet record which as I stated before "on the days where I ate less then 30% carbs I consistently lost from 1/4-1/2 of a pound. But on those days that I ate more carbs than that my weight did not go down. Whether it was water weight or fat I don't know and neither do you. So please don't turn it into a question it was simply an OBSERVATION.0
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DawnieB1977 wrote: »Lezavargas wrote: »dpgalbreath wrote: »I have noticed when my carb count is above 30% on any given day my weight loss stops. Just counting calories isn't the only deciding factor for success in my weight loss.
I'm sure if I were more active that the carbs would burn off quickly and not affect the weight loss as much.
So now that the weather is clearing up the dogs and I are going to be
Out there pouring on the steam and it is back to spinach salads and chicken breast, boiled eggs, and grapefruit and less bread and potatoes.
Even though my calorie count has been 100-300 lower Than suggested before any activity has been calculated everyday my weight loss stopped, and it is way to early in the game for that to be happening.
I run into the same issue. i stay away from refined sugars and processed food most of the time but i find that any breads (even if i make them myself) or pastas in particular stiffle my weightloss. Other carbs dont have the same effect. Everyone's body is different. Listen to the signals that your body sends you. Nobody knows better than you how certain foods are impacting you. Best of luck!
I also lose weight faster if I reduce starchy carbs.
I'm sure for plenty of people that's not an issue, but we all do what works for us.
So, OP, you carry on with what works for you.
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not sure if you are willing to, but if you open diary you might get some more precise advice0
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ldrosophila wrote: »not sure if you are willing to, but if you open diary you might get some more precise advice
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My diary is open0
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dpgalbreath wrote: »My diary is open
No sure if it is public or private viewing..unless MFP has totally changed on me
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ldrosophila wrote: »dpgalbreath wrote: »My diary is open
No sure if it is public or private viewing..unless MFP has totally changed on meldrosophila wrote: »dpgalbreath wrote: »My diary is open
No sure if it is public or private viewing..unless MFP has totally changed on meldrosophila wrote: »dpgalbreath wrote: »My diary is open
No sure if it is public or private viewing..unless MFP has totally changed on me
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So sorry it was set on private. But I fixed it.0
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dpgalbreath wrote: »I have noticed when my carb count is above 30% on any given day my weight loss stops. Just counting calories isn't the only deciding factor for success in my weight loss.
I'm sure if I were more active that the carbs would burn off quickly and not affect the weight loss as much.
So now that the weather is clearing up the dogs and I are going to be
Out there pouring on the steam and it is back to spinach salads and chicken breast, boiled eggs, and grapefruit and less bread and potatoes.
Even though my calorie count has been 100-300 lower Than suggested before any activity has been calculated everyday my weight loss stopped, and it is way to early in the game for that to be happening.
While all of the above may be true, your conclusion that all calories are not the same is false. Please stop spreading misinformation.0 -
LiftAllThePizzas wrote: »dpgalbreath wrote: »I have noticed when my carb count is above 30% on any given day my weight loss stops. Just counting calories isn't the only deciding factor for success in my weight loss.
I'm sure if I were more active that the carbs would burn off quickly and not affect the weight loss as much.
So now that the weather is clearing up the dogs and I are going to be
Out there pouring on the steam and it is back to spinach salads and chicken breast, boiled eggs, and grapefruit and less bread and potatoes.
Even though my calorie count has been 100-300 lower Than suggested before any activity has been calculated everyday my weight loss stopped, and it is way to early in the game for that to be happening.
While all of the above may be true, your conclusion that all calories are not the same is false. Please stop spreading misinformation.
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It is not false. It is not information it is merely a personal observation. Nothing more nothing less. Stop reading something into what was stated.0
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my goal was to target fat loss, so I continued eating carbs as normal but at an overall calorie defecit.
Now I'm 127lb 15-18% body fat and stuffed full of carbs and water and pumped up with glycogen.
I don't mind carrying that kind of weight- it's the fat I wanted rid of.0 -
Your diary is packed with unweighted entries, some quick adds, and pre-made foods whose entries are clearly guesses.
I am confident you are eating more than you think.
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dpgalbreath wrote: »It is not false. It is not information it is merely a personal observation. Nothing more nothing less. Stop reading something into what was stated.
A calorie is a unit of measurement which is why he said your statement is false.0 -
dpgalbreath wrote: »It is not false. It is not information it is merely a personal observation. Nothing more nothing less. Stop reading something into what was stated.
It is false. And while you may find you like to be lower in carb intake it is necessary for weight loss. You made a post claiming all calories are not equal. Then claimed you don't lose weight by eating higher carbs. But that's not true. A calorie is a calorie. Whether you experienced water retention (as mentioned earlier) has yet to be seen and that's fine. Eat lower carbs, that's your preference.
The distribution of calories be it protein, fat, Fiber, carbs is based on health and personal preference. Some people enjoy low carbs, some high. The difference is personal and one does not trump the others (medical conditions aside).
I love my carbs and I lost all my weight eating a decently high carb. It's just what I prefer.
Perhaps you should have titled your post to reflect your intention of posting a personal observation and not claim something that isn't true.0 -
After looking at your diary, I think you need to read:
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10012907/logging-accuracy-consistency-and-youre-probably-eating-more-than-you-think/p1
and
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1234699/logging-accurately-step-by-step-guide/p10
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