To juice or not to juice?
ashlygraves
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I have toyed with the idea of juicing. I can't bring myself to do every meal this way. What do you think of it as a lunch or dinner replacement? Any suggestions from those who've done this before successfully?
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If you do try liquefying your meals, make them smoothies and not juice. Keep the fiber intact
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My dad bought me one of the really expensive juicers and I started out enthusiastically every breakfast making some type of juice with carrots, oranges, lemons, whatever and saving the pulp for other homemade things like homemade marinara sauce, protein muffins, etc. I noticed that the juice in the mornings was not enough to keep me full because the lack of protein and fiber. I wouldn't go out and buy a juicer but because I have one in the house I can see the benefits and the downsides. They are expensive, yes if you are into drinking your meals it makes "healthy" juice but you are missing some healthy parts, and keeping the pulp was the best thing I could have done. My daughters love protein shakes and I can sneak carrot pulp, spinach, and berries into a protein shake and it just tastes like the berries. Just my opinion though, good luck either way!0
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I like to chew my food.0
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Another thing to take into consideration is how much fruit/veggies it takes to get a cup of juice. A banana, two oranges, an apple, half a pineapple, some kale, etc. (I'm exaggerating a little, much not much). I think to myself, "Would I ever be able to eat that much food in one sitting?" Plus, when you juice, you concentrate all the sugars in those foods by taking out the other parts. They can be a calorie bomb and leave you pretty unsatisfied. An hour or two later you will be hungry again.0
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As a once in a while thing, probably it won't hurt you.
Don't make a lifestyle of it, and it'd be best if you used the whole food instead of throwing away the pulp (fiber).
Better still if you'd just eat the food. Less time, less messy.0 -
I see alot of people are against juicing. I bought myself a really expensive juicer. I dont drink juices everyday, maybe once or twice a week i replace a meal with it, but i absolutely love it.
If i have a full day and dont have time to grab a bite, i have in my bag 2 L (aprox 8 cups) of carrot beet apple ginger and lime juice and i drink it throughout the day. And drink a lot of water of course. But if i have a whole day with juice only, i make sure i dont juice my fruits and veggies for another week or two, because just like the others said, it has a lot of sugar.
So yes, i would totally recommend you a juicer but not to replace every meal, every day. But if you do so, replace your breakfast and dinner and have a salad and some protein for lunch. It is great to have something other than water to drink, if you miss sodas or would just like to treat yourself.0 -
I just would much rather chew my calories than drink them. So much more satisfied eating a big and healthy meal than I would drinking a glass of juice. That's just preference though. I do, however, occasionally like a good smoothie! Not really a juice though. I use frozen bananas and strawberry a and it ends up having a very milkshake like thickness and texture. Again, more satisfying for me personally than liquid.0
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I'm going to put my standard lose weight with an eye to future maintenance guideline on it:
1) will I like the taste?
2) could I do this for the rest of my life?
3) will it become one of my go-to foods that I can log in my meals?
4) will there be enough bang for the calorie buck in terms of satiety, enjoyment and general yumminess?
5) will it make my life easier?
If the answer to any of the above are no ...then my answer is Oh hell no0 -
I have a juicer and a blender for smoothies. I am just on the fence as using them as a meal replacer. I struggle to eat and so it was an idea the nutritionist threw out since it's easy on the digestive system and quickly absorbed. I guess some calories are better than none especially if they are fruits and veggies. I dunno...0
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There is a Documentary "Fat, Sick, and Nearly Dead" I think that's the name. If not its close. It's about a guy that juiced for 60 days straight. He had amazing results. I'm sure sone if you will say it's tv or whatever, but I did attempt to do the 60 days myself. Unfortunately I fell short by 53 days (shut up, don't judge me! lol) but I will say this in those 7 days, I lost 30lbs. I also kept those 30lbs. Off for several months. So I assure you it wasn't water weight.
My typical juice was 2 oranges, Green Apples, kale, and spinach. I kept them in the fridge so they would be cold (I didn't like adding ice cubes for some reason) I never felt malnourished or anything and if I felt hungry, I just had another juice.
I'm not gonna sit here and say I coukd have done the 60 days, but I definitely coukd have done more than 7. IF I hadn't tried to get creative. I'll just say NOT ALL FRUITS AND VEGETABLES ARE MADE OR GOOD FOR JUICING. Just to give an idea, I thought a salsa type juice would be good. Not so much. The hardest parts were the cravings to just chew and swallow something. It's clearly habit and mental. Best example I can think of is how a smoker that is trying to quit has to have something in their mouth.
I wouldn't recommend it as a permanent lifestyle change, but a week (or 2 or more depending on how froggy, you're feeling) I would say go for it. I will actually be rotating weeks where I only juice.
With that said, I also own a Ninja Ultima. And I do enjoy my smoothies and shakes way more than just juicing. But again, 30 pounds in 7 days made me a believer.
It definitely takes a lot of will power and determination to do. Hope this helps.
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ink_addict_ wrote: »There is a Documentary "Fat, Sick, and Nearly Dead" I think that's the name. If not its close. It's about a guy that juiced for 60 days straight. He had amazing results. I'm sure sone if you will say it's tv or whatever, but I did attempt to do the 60 days myself. Unfortunately I fell short by 53 days (shut up, don't judge me! lol) but I will say this in those 7 days, I lost 30lbs. I also kept those 30lbs. Off for several months. So I assure you it wasn't water weight.
My typical juice was 2 oranges, Green Apples, kale, and spinach. I kept them in the fridge so they would be cold (I didn't like adding ice cubes for some reason) I never felt malnourished or anything and if I felt hungry, I just had another juice.
I'm not gonna sit here and say I coukd have done the 60 days, but I definitely coukd have done more than 7. IF I hadn't tried to get creative. I'll just say NOT ALL FRUITS AND VEGETABLES ARE MADE OR GOOD FOR JUICING. Just to give an idea, I thought a salsa type juice would be good. Not so much. The hardest parts were the cravings to just chew and swallow something. It's clearly habit and mental. Best example I can think of is how a smoker that is trying to quit has to have something in their mouth.
I wouldn't recommend it as a permanent lifestyle change, but a week (or 2 or more depending on how froggy, you're feeling) I would say go for it. I will actually be rotating weeks where I only juice.
With that said, I also own a Ninja Ultima. And I do enjoy my smoothies and shakes way more than just juicing. But again, 30 pounds in 7 days made me a believer.
It definitely takes a lot of will power and determination to do. Hope this helps.
stopped reading at the bit in bold
because seriously?
you think you lost 30lbs of fat in a week
the equivalent of roughly a calorie defecit of 105,000 calories in a week?
:huh:
and you credit juicing with this - what did you do from day 8 through the amount of time you kept 30 lbs off .. did you diet and exercise by any chance?
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There's a lot of benefits to juicing, you should watch Fat, Sick and Nearly Dead on Netflix. It's about a guy who tries juicing to cure and illness. Ends up losing 90lbs in 40 days I think. Inspirational, Food for thought
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stopped reading at the bit in bold
because seriously?
you think you lost 30lbs of fat in a week
the equivalent of roughly a calorie defecit of 105,000 calories in a week?
:huh:
and you credit juicing with this - what did you do from day 8 through the amount of time you kept 30 lbs off .. did you diet and exercise by any chance?
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For someone that is telling people NOT to do or try something, one would think that you would know wtf you are talking about. If you had looked into juicing even a little bit, you would know that a big part of Juicing is the detox and waste your body loses. I'm sorry that you apparently don't like my opinion from MY OWN PERSONAL EXPERIENCE versus yours from YOUR PERSONAL ASSUMPTION. The fact you automatically assumed I was claiming to have lost 30lbs. of fat in just 7 days is proof you have absolutely ZERO knowledge on the subject.0 -
And here we go again. In the last three years I've seen the juicing subject come up dozens of times. None of the people, as far as I know are able to maintain it for any length of time, and I have yet to hear of anyone who lost and kept their weight off. Most people will say they are using it as a "kick start" for their weight loss. Juicing does not help you lose weight! A calorie deficit does. We are human beings who are meant to chew our food.0
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ink_addict_ wrote: »
For someone that is telling people NOT to do or try something, one would think that you would know wtf you are talking about. If you had looked into juicing even a little bit, you would know that a big part of Juicing is the detox and waste your body loses. I'm sorry that you apparently don't like my opinion from MY OWN PERSONAL EXPERIENCE versus yours from YOUR PERSONAL ASSUMPTION. The fact you automatically assumed I was claiming to have lost 30lbs. of fat in just 7 days is proof you have absolutely ZERO knowledge on the subject.
that's not how the body works
not about personal experience, not about assumptions, about science.
What were you claiming to have lost in 7 days then .. please do tell .. all ears0 -
ink_addict_ wrote: »For someone that is telling people NOT to do or try something, one would think that you would know wtf you are talking about. If you had looked into juicing even a little bit, you would know that a big part of Juicing is the detox and waste your body loses. I'm sorry that you apparently don't like my opinion from MY OWN PERSONAL EXPERIENCE versus yours from YOUR PERSONAL ASSUMPTION. The fact you automatically assumed I was claiming to have lost 30lbs. of fat in just 7 days is proof you have absolutely ZERO knowledge on the subject.
Yeah.. no. :noway:
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Again, juicing isn't intended to be done forever as so many people apparently seem to think. But if you are juicing fruits and vegetables (mainly vegetables is recommended) tell me what foods you are eating that will allow you to a bigger calorie deficit?
If I juice an apple and you eat an apple, who takes in the most calories?
As I said in my previous post, there are other benefits than just losing weight to juicing.
To be honest I couldn't care less if somebody chooses to juice or not. I had a positive experience with it, and will be doing it again. So I'm sharing my Positive Experience on thread that asks the question. "Too Juice or Not to Juice". My issue is that all of the negative posts (the ones I've seen on here) are from people who thinks this or thinks that about juicing but has NEVER tried it. Maybe I'm wrong, but I assume the OP wanted opinions from people that have actially tried it, not just people with opinions.
While juicing clearly isn't for everyone, if someone wants to give it a try why would you tell them not to when you haven't tried it yourself?0 -
ink_addict_ wrote: »
For someone that is telling people NOT to do or try something, one would think that you would know wtf you are talking about. If you had looked into juicing even a little bit, you would know that a big part of Juicing is the detox and waste your body loses. I'm sorry that you apparently don't like my opinion from MY OWN PERSONAL EXPERIENCE versus yours from YOUR PERSONAL ASSUMPTION. The fact you automatically assumed I was claiming to have lost 30lbs. of fat in just 7 days is proof you have absolutely ZERO knowledge on the subject.
that's not how the body works
not about personal experience, not about assumptions, about science.
What were you claiming to have lost in 7 days then .. please do tell .. all ears
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I have no advice, but if you can find a way to make a pizza drinkable I'd love to know!0
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I use my juicer almost everyday but only to keep up with my recommended daily servings of veg and fruit. I count it toward my calories but never use it as a meal replacer.
I tried the cleanse once and it was rough. Granted it did clean me out and I felt great afterward but it's not really for the faint of heart. I would only do it if I felt truly sick and wanted to "reboot" in a way. Not for prolonged periods but maybe for 5 or so days, twice a year.0 -
ink_addict_ wrote: »Again, juicing isn't intended to be done forever as so many people apparently seem to think. But if you are juicing fruits and vegetables (mainly vegetables is recommended) tell me what foods you are eating that will allow you to a bigger calorie deficit?
If I juice an apple and you eat an apple, who takes in the most calories?
As I said in my previous post, there are other benefits than just losing weight to juicing.
To be honest I couldn't care less if somebody chooses to juice or not. I had a positive experience with it, and will be doing it again. So I'm sharing my Positive Experience on thread that asks the question. "Too Juice or Not to Juice". My issue is that all of the negative posts (the ones I've seen on here) are from people who thinks this or thinks that about juicing but has NEVER tried it. Maybe I'm wrong, but I assume the OP wanted opinions from people that have actially tried it, not just people with opinions.
While juicing clearly isn't for everyone, if someone wants to give it a try why would you tell them not to when you haven't tried it yourself?
I react badly when people talk about detoxing the body - because the body does not need detoxing because we have livers and kidneys .. if the body needs detoxing you should be hospitalised!
I react badly when people say "well I lost 30lbs in 7 days and kept it off" because there are lurkers reading this and seriously they don't need to hear any more snake oil or magic tricks that don't exist ... anything I can do to convince people it's about eating at a defecit and moving more for health (however you choose to reach those goals) I will do
and actually I didn't say don't juice ... here let me repost what I said about it...
BecauseI'm going to put my standard lose weight with an eye to future maintenance guideline on it:
1) will I like the taste?
2) could I do this for the rest of my life?
3) will it become one of my go-to foods that I can log in my meals?
4) will there be enough bang for the calorie buck in terms of satiety, enjoyment and general yumminess?
5) will it make my life easier?
If the answer to any of the above are no ...then my answer is Oh hell no
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If it's not maintainable in the long term I'm not really that interested in it. I'm all for a smoothie/juice and recently I've made them for breakfast some days but as many others have said - I do like to chew my food! I think it makes it last longer and you can enjoy the different textures and flavours. It works for some as a meal replacement thing as you're taking in less calories.
I'm always suspicious of 'meal replacement' fads as it's just not sustainable. Also, a cousin of mine on facebook has been doing this and she's moaning non stop about symptoms she's suffering because she's so flipping hungry but is taking on supplements! She's starved of enough calories so is knackered, lacking energy and feels down but the caffeine is preventing her from sleeping. She's skinny but miserable! She's not just juicing but as you mentioned meal replacement I thought I'd mention her.
Eating out is a treat and I'd rather educate myself about making better choices than liquidise a fruitbowl each meal. Also, if you have kids you will be sending them a mental message if you drink your meals instead of eating the same as them.0 -
ink_addict_ wrote: »
For someone that is telling people NOT to do or try something, one would think that you would know wtf you are talking about. If you had looked into juicing even a little bit, you would know that a big part of Juicing is the detox and waste your body loses. I'm sorry that you apparently don't like my opinion from MY OWN PERSONAL EXPERIENCE versus yours from YOUR PERSONAL ASSUMPTION. The fact you automatically assumed I was claiming to have lost 30lbs. of fat in just 7 days is proof you have absolutely ZERO knowledge on the subject.
that's not how the body works
not about personal experience, not about assumptions, about science.
What were you claiming to have lost in 7 days then .. please do tell .. all ears
Just noticed I said 'All Ears' and I'm currently a rabbit :bigsmile:0 -
ink_addict_ wrote: »Again, juicing isn't intended to be done forever as so many people apparently seem to think. But if you are juicing fruits and vegetables (mainly vegetables is recommended) tell me what foods you are eating that will allow you to a bigger calorie deficit?
If I juice an apple and you eat an apple, who takes in the most calories?
As I said in my previous post, there are other benefits than just losing weight to juicing.
To be honest I couldn't care less if somebody chooses to juice or not. I had a positive experience with it, and will be doing it again. So I'm sharing my Positive Experience on thread that asks the question. "Too Juice or Not to Juice". My issue is that all of the negative posts (the ones I've seen on here) are from people who thinks this or thinks that about juicing but has NEVER tried it. Maybe I'm wrong, but I assume the OP wanted opinions from people that have actially tried it, not just people with opinions.
While juicing clearly isn't for everyone, if someone wants to give it a try why would you tell them not to when you haven't tried it yourself?
As was stated above, to lose 30 lbs of fat in a week, one would have to create a 105,000 calorie deficit for that week. That is 15,000 calories a day. It is impossible to create a 15,000 calorie deficit in one day, no matter how much weight you have to lose.
Also, a juice is not ridding your body of any "toxins" that your liver and kidneys don't already handle. Toxins is a buzz word created by the diet industry to sell you juicers and supplements.
Fat, Sick, and Nearly Dead is just one long-@ss juicer commercial.0 -
I enjoy masticating.0
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ink_addict_ wrote: »
stopped reading at the bit in bold
because seriously?
you think you lost 30lbs of fat in a week
the equivalent of roughly a calorie defecit of 105,000 calories in a week?
:huh:
and you credit juicing with this - what did you do from day 8 through the amount of time you kept 30 lbs off .. did you diet and exercise by any chance?
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For someone that is telling people NOT to do or try something, one would think that you would know wtf you are talking about. If you had looked into juicing even a little bit, you would know that a big part of Juicing is the detox and waste your body loses. I'm sorry that you apparently don't like my opinion from MY OWN PERSONAL EXPERIENCE versus yours from YOUR PERSONAL ASSUMPTION. The fact you automatically assumed I was claiming to have lost 30lbs. of fat in just 7 days is proof you have absolutely ZERO knowledge on the subject.[/quote]
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I love to juice, but I juice to supplement diet. For me I notice a huge difference in my skin after juicing regularly for several weeks. The best is to juice your veggies, eat your fruits. Only use small amounts of fruit to make the juices palatable. Juice all your nice dark green veggies. I love to juice kale, lettuce, celery, cucumber, tomatoes, cabbage with a little able and beet in it to sweeten. You can also add tumeric for anti inflammatory properties.0
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Bottom line, I gave my opinion from my experience.
I juiced for 7 days. Whatever I lost, I lost 30lbs. of it, and I kept it off for a few months. If it was water weight, as everyone seems to think then so be it.
The scale went down. I felt better. End of story.
If you don't believe in juicing, then it's simple. Don't do it. If you want to try it, why not?
So to everyone, I say good day.0
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