Whole Milk vs Skim
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Timorous_Beastie wrote: »I drink a lowfat chocolate milk (Wegman's brand) becuase it tastes better than any other brand chocolate milk I've tried. A lot of them are chalky. Wegman's tastes like melted chocolate ice cream.
I really enjoy Wawa Chocolate milk (when I visited PA) we don't have ANYTHING like that in Arizona.
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mangrothian wrote: »I don't eat or drink anything that is low fat since it's more processed. I didn't read article you linked, but I am aware of the studies that indicate that low fat milk is worse for your health. If you are just worried about calories, I guess you should go with the lowest fat, but if you are concerned about overall health, go with whole milk.
Sadly, full cream milk is actually more processed than skim milk now. The amount of fat in full cream milk should depend on where the cows come from, the season, and the type of cow, but it doesn't. All milk we drink (unless it's raw or unhomogenized) is turned into skim, then the appropriate amounts of cream are added back in to make the milk have a standard milk fat ratio in every bottle. So skim has just had the milk fats taken out of it. Full cream has had all the fats taken out of it, then had the appropriate amount put back in.
That's how it is in Australia at least. Maybe it's different elsewhere *shrug*
Thanks for enlightening me. I don't drink any milk, but my husband does so we buy the whole milk. I'll check into getting some local raw milk for him instead. I think I might have a few options near by.
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I always eat full fat dairy, but I only eat dairy once a day so it's not like the content is a big issue. Actually, someone once told me that the dairy industry has it all wrng, whole milk should really be labelled as 97% fat free...lol!0
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It's best to leave things the way nature intended. Many people drink skim milk because they think all fat is bad for you. There is a reason why milk contains fat to begin with.
Most people aren't aware of how skim milk is even made, it's pretty disgusting. Fat-free milk used to be an industrial waste product after the cream was skimmed.
Here is an excerpt from an article I read:
"Before processing, skim milk has a very unappetizing blueish color, a chalky taste, and watery texture that doesn’t resemble natural milk at all. So, to whiten, thicken, and make it taste a little more normal, powdered milk solids are often mixed into the milk.
What’s so bad about powdered milk? Well, in the manufacturing process, liquid milk is forced through tiny holes at very high pressure, which causes the cholesterol in the milk to oxidize, and toxic nitrates to form. Oxidized cholesterol contributes to the buildup of plaque in the arteries, while unoxidized cholesterol from unprocessed foods is actually an antioxidant to help fight inflammation in the body. The proteins found in powdered milk are so denatured that they are unrecognizable by the body and contribute to inflammation.
Shockingly, dairy manufacturers are not required by the FDA to label the powdered milk as a separate ingredient, because it’s still technically just “milk,” the single ingredient found on the list. So, there’s no way to be sure that it is or isn’t in your fat-free or low-fat dairy products."
Where I live the dairy farmers used to actually make a hockey rink out of the "junk milk" since it had no use.0 -
Unsweetened coconut milk is my new favorite.0
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christinev297 wrote: »If I swapped my low fat milk for the regular, the calories from what I add to my tea would go from 178 calories to 310 calories
I'm not quite ready to give up drinking tea and I've tried it black many times and I just...... cant.
That's a lot of tea! Have you tried lemon in your black tea instead of milk? It's pretty good.
Don't think I could have cream instead of milk for my tea, and have never met anyone who does. I'm a latte drinker, so wouldn't have it in coffee either. As for with cereal, only if it's porridge or bircher. Double cream in porridge and bircher is brilliant
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christinev297 wrote: »If I swapped my low fat milk for the regular, the calories from what I add to my tea would go from 178 calories to 310 calories I'm not quite ready to give up drinking tea and I've tried it black many times and I just...... cant.
That's a lot of tea! Have you tried lemon in your black tea instead of milk? It's pretty good.
Don't think I could have cream instead of milk for my tea, and have never met anyone who does. I'm a latte drinker, so wouldn't have it in coffee either. As for with cereal, only if it's porridge or bircher. Double cream in porridge and bircher is brilliant
yeah it is Around 6 cups in the morning for *breakfast*, then I swap to water.
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How is coconut milk different from coconut water?0
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If youre saving calories skim is the way to go if you want to avoid drinking calories. However, if you rather have the milk fat and enjoy your drink then just record it and adjust your food intake accordingly.0
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seattle, its awesome! they bring milk from thier local farms, eggs and baked goods too
Yep, I'm from there originally, Smith Bros delivery! We used to get yogurt, too, had a cooler on the porch for it. My brother still does it.
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Almond milk in protein shakes.
But if I want a glass, I drink whole milk (4% I think it is). I don't want it often though, maybe once or twice a month.
Cottage cheese = 4%
And I would absolutely never use anything except full, regular sour cream. Lite sour cream is gross!0 -
christinev297 wrote: »
seattle, its awesome! they bring milk from thier local farms, eggs and baked goods too
That is so great! Plus you get all that lovely rain
Thats what you think, we actually are in danger of being in a drought right now. we just tell people its nasty here to keep them away. there now more space for people as the beautiful mountains and sea take up the most space.
Lies, it's awful it rains all the time
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zombiegirlfriend wrote: »How is coconut milk different from coconut water?
Coconut water is the water in a coconut. It's low in calories and very low in fat, and is supposed to be good as a post workout drink due to the potassium.
Coconut milk is made from the meat of a coconut and is high in saturated fat because of the presence of coconut oil. It's traditionally used in some Asian cuisines. I'm not sure what the boxed stuff is, but it seems to be lower in fat and calories than the coconut milk I'm familiar with.0 -
christinev297 wrote: »
seattle, its awesome! they bring milk from thier local farms, eggs and baked goods too
That is so great! Plus you get all that lovely rain
Thats what you think, we actually are in danger of being in a drought right now. we just tell people its nasty here to keep them away. there now more space for people as the beautiful mountains and sea take up the most space.
Lies, it's awful it rains all the time
Haha I'm in Australia. So won't be popping in any time soon
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I was raised on whole milk. I prefer skim to drink because I prefer the taste. I also prefer it in my tea because anything heavier overpowers the tea flavor. On the other hand, I use half and half in my coffee because skim milk is too light for it.0
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lesliemichael86 wrote: »It's best to leave things the way nature intended. Many people drink skim milk because they think all fat is bad for you. There is a reason why milk contains fat to begin with.
Most people aren't aware of how skim milk is even made, it's pretty disgusting. Fat-free milk used to be an industrial waste product after the cream was skimmed.
Here is an excerpt from an article I read:
"Before processing, skim milk has a very unappetizing blueish color, a chalky taste, and watery texture that doesn’t resemble natural milk at all. So, to whiten, thicken, and make it taste a little more normal, powdered milk solids are often mixed into the milk.
What’s so bad about powdered milk? Well, in the manufacturing process, liquid milk is forced through tiny holes at very high pressure, which causes the cholesterol in the milk to oxidize, and toxic nitrates to form. Oxidized cholesterol contributes to the buildup of plaque in the arteries, while unoxidized cholesterol from unprocessed foods is actually an antioxidant to help fight inflammation in the body. The proteins found in powdered milk are so denatured that they are unrecognizable by the body and contribute to inflammation.
Shockingly, dairy manufacturers are not required by the FDA to label the powdered milk as a separate ingredient, because it’s still technically just “milk,” the single ingredient found on the list. So, there’s no way to be sure that it is or isn’t in your fat-free or low-fat dairy products."
Where I live the dairy farmers used to actually make a hockey rink out of the "junk milk" since it had no use.
My grandpa separated the cream and sent it off to the creamery for butter. The "junk milk" got fed to the pigs he raised for market and to sell as breeders.
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christinev297 wrote: »christinev297 wrote: »
seattle, its awesome! they bring milk from thier local farms, eggs and baked goods too
That is so great! Plus you get all that lovely rain
Thats what you think, we actually are in danger of being in a drought right now. we just tell people its nasty here to keep them away. there now more space for people as the beautiful mountains and sea take up the most space.
Lies, it's awful it rains all the time
Haha I'm in Australia. So won't be popping in any time soon
Oh well, you're welcome to come of course! Lol...seriously, August is your best bet if you ever do (unless you like rain).
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christinev297 wrote: »christinev297 wrote: »
seattle, its awesome! they bring milk from thier local farms, eggs and baked goods too
That is so great! Plus you get all that lovely rain
Thats what you think, we actually are in danger of being in a drought right now. we just tell people its nasty here to keep them away. there now more space for people as the beautiful mountains and sea take up the most space.
Lies, it's awful it rains all the time
Haha I'm in Australia. So won't be popping in any time soon
Oh well, you're welcome to come of course! Lol...seriously, August is your best bet if you ever do (unless you like rain).
I love love love rain! We're looking at moving to another state, and my one prerequisite is somewhere where they have a high rainfall. Our state is the dryest in Australia. Not a good place for me
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I am curious how many people are drinking the milk they grew up with or converted to at an early age (or didn't care for milk as children if they now like alternative forms of milk).
Like I said above, I rarely drink milk itself, but I just realized that my preferred 2% is what my family had as long as I can remember when I was growing up. As an adult I converted to skim (what my parents drink now, for their perceived health reasons), I subsequently experimented with whole because I thought it might be better for me, but I realized that I actually usually enjoy 2% as much or more. Whole milk in a protein shake is delightfully creamy, but rarely worth the calories, and 2% yogurt or cottage cheese genuinely tastes just as good or better to me, perhaps because that's what formed my taste in the first place.0 -
I grew up drinking whole milk, which I still much prefer over skim. Full fat just has way too many calories for the amount I drink
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Yeah, Christine, that's a bummer. Weather does affect us. I moved to California, I was pretty tired of all the rain (although we could sure use some now!).
Back to the milk...2% here, it's what I grew up with.0 -
Grew up on powdered milk or sometimes skim but now drink grass fed whole milk when I do drink it. i do more cream or coconut milk than milk now.0
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Grew up on powdered milk or sometimes skim but now drink grass fed whole milk when I do drink it. i do more cream or coconut milk than milk now.
Powdered milk > shudder < if we ran out of milk when I was a kid, my mum would secretly mix up a batch of powdered milk and pour it into the empty milk carton. Imagine my disgust when I had that first spoonful of cereal that I'd been so looking forward to and it was tainted by that disgusting tasting stuff! I couldn't eat it
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Powdered milk should be reserved for home made pancake shake to take camping. Definitely not for drinking. I grew up with 1% but am a full-fat person now. And speaking of camping, there's nothing better than sweetened condensed milk in your coffee when you're drinking it beside the campfire in the morning. Prior to cooking those pancakes, of course.0
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I think we always had 2% milk in the house growing up, but as a kid I always took skim milk in the elementary school cafeteria. The carton was pink and I could not tell the difference in taste! I wasn't a big milk drinker, though. Now I can definitely tell the difference and think I prefer 2% milk over anything else.0
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lemurcat12 wrote: »I am curious how many people are drinking the milk they grew up with or converted to at an early age (or didn't care for milk as children if they now like alternative forms of milk).
I grew up on whole milk, partially because my Mom grew up on a dairy farm and that is what they had, from their own cows. Dad wasn't much of a milk drinker so Mom made the choices. I don't know when skim or 2% were introduced but I don't remember them being available. Of course, this was still the days of home delivery in returnable glass bottles. I was in my teens when the family switched to 2%. I started drinking skim in college for the fewer calories and discovered that I preferred the taste and have been drinking it ever since.
I remember how cloying whole milk tasted if it wasn't cold enough. Hot summer days we had it with an ice cube to keep it cool, and the hottest days we were allowed to drink water or iced tea with dinner.
There is still nothing better than a chocolate cake followed by a glass of cold milk!
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I drink it all. Whole, 2%, skim, fat free, half and half and heavy whipping cream. Also drink almond, coconut and cashew milk. Depends on what I prefer in the moment and what I have on hand.
Which is healthier? Can't answer that without context of the rest of the diet...0 -
For most things, I use almond milk. If I'm drinking it, though, I prefer skim or 2% (although I don't drink it often, I prefer using my calories in food, not drinks).0
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