Why counting calories could be making you fatter.

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  • ana3067
    ana3067 Posts: 5,623 Member
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    LAWoman72 wrote: »
    Counting calories won't make you fat unless you eat back all the calories you spent sitting at your computer and entering them.

    If you only eat back about half of your sit-and-type calories, you're probably fine.

    When I did neat method I HAD to eat back all `00% of the exercise calories to lose at the appropriate rate. This was with using a NEAT estimate from an external calculator that gave me a higher number than what MFP gave for the same activity level.
  • jenilla1
    jenilla1 Posts: 11,118 Member
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    That's ridiculous. I've lost weight and then maintained at goal for over 4 years now by counting calories. I'll keep doing what works, and you keep reading the Daily Mail. B)
  • quiksylver296
    quiksylver296 Posts: 28,442 Member
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    Soup is an easy habit to get into. 'It's a good lunch and fills you up more than just eating the ingredients on their own.

    'This is because it has the added ingredient of salty water, which fills you up.'



    This might be my favorite part. I'm just gonna drink salt water from now on. That sounds like an awesome new diet plan. (For those who might not recognize, total sarcasm. Do NOT do this.)
  • LAWoman72
    LAWoman72 Posts: 2,846 Member
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    ana3067 wrote: »
    LAWoman72 wrote: »
    Counting calories won't make you fat unless you eat back all the calories you spent sitting at your computer and entering them.

    If you only eat back about half of your sit-and-type calories, you're probably fine.

    When I did neat method I HAD to eat back all `00% of the exercise calories to lose at the appropriate rate. This was with using a NEAT estimate from an external calculator that gave me a higher number than what MFP gave for the same activity level.

    ;) We are all different. I know that if I eat back all my sit-around-and-type exercise calories, I merely maintain. Same with my putting-on-makeup calories. I have a scootch more wiggle room with my burnoff from hair-blowdrying.

  • Anayalata
    Anayalata Posts: 391 Member
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    paradi3s wrote: »
    7 months of calorie counting = me losing the last 30 lbs and maintaining. Never gained a pound after. Hmmmmmmm don't believe everything you read
    I don't believe you.
  • isulo_kura
    isulo_kura Posts: 818 Member
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    rabbitjb wrote: »
    Old, bollocks and it's the Daily Mail

    HTH :)

    ^^^^^ THIS
  • isulo_kura
    isulo_kura Posts: 818 Member
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    The Daily Mail has gone from sympathising with the Nazis and demonising Jews to giving bad advice on nutrition? They always find something to get horrendously wrong.
    And all of them cause cancer ;)
  • LAWoman72
    LAWoman72 Posts: 2,846 Member
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    isulo_kura wrote: »
    The Daily Mail has gone from sympathising with the Nazis and demonising Jews to giving bad advice on nutrition? They always find something to get horrendously wrong.
    And all of them cause cancer ;)

    Nazis cause cancer?

    Actually, this is the Daily Fail. I wouldn't be too surprised.
  • HeySwoleSister
    HeySwoleSister Posts: 1,938 Member
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    Counting calories could make you get fatter. If, you know, you are counting all the way up to a caloric surplus. So, there's that.
  • LAWoman72
    LAWoman72 Posts: 2,846 Member
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    EWJLang wrote: »
    Counting calories could make you get fatter. If, you know, you are counting all the way up to a caloric surplus. So, there's that.

    Yes, if you're counting them and then eating them then that could be the problem, LOL.

    "This is, hmmm....3700 calories. Well, in it goes!"

  • jennifershoo
    jennifershoo Posts: 3,198 Member
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  • LovingLife_Erin
    LovingLife_Erin Posts: 328 Member
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    I love the part that said men should never eat more than 2,500 calories and women 2,000.

    I have days that I eat over 2,000 and I still lose weight (clearly working out helps a lot with that). My husband is also blessed with a very high metabolism and basically has to eat over 3,000 a day on a sedentary lifestyle to not lose weight. Oh Daily Fail...
  • omma_to_3
    omma_to_3 Posts: 3,265 Member
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    I didn't read the article, but when someone mentioned the bullet points, I checked those out:

    TV show aired tomorrow night aims to explore science of calories
    It's the type of calories we consume - and not the number - that's important
    Eating the 'right' kind of calories can fill you up and stave off hunger pangs
    Consuming the 'wrong' type will leave you hungry - and probably heavier
    However it 's often easier to burn off calories than many of us realise
    Show reveals a morning of housework burns as many calories as workout

    #1...no idea what the show said
    #2...I disagree with in general...unless you look at #3 and #4.
    #3...Yup, filling up on protein and fat will keep you feeling full longer
    #4...Yup, spending all your calories on sugar and sweets will leave you hungry...which could make you overeat
    #5...eh...it depends
    #6...could be, depending on how and what you're cleaning

    so, my take on it, I don't see anything blatantly "wrong" with their bullet points.
  • Mr_Knight
    Mr_Knight Posts: 9,532 Member
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    elphie754 wrote: »
    JoRumbles wrote: »
    Yes, its the Daily Fail so reported badly. I will be watching the programme tonight with interest.

    In a sense I agree with a lot of what they say, its just very badly written. It is well known that low GI foods keep you fuller longer whilst drinks like alcohol barely make you feel satiated at all, despite being calorific. So, while yes it is a case of CICO it will be a lot easier to stick to a low calorie diet if that diet is full of big plates of low GI, high fibre food. Stops you being tempted to snack later and go over your calorie goal. Psychologically as well its useful to sit down to a full plate of lower cal food, rather than a small plate of chips.

    Also, the science of how we burn through calories is finely nuanced. For example, look at the research on resistant starch- aka cold pasta has less available calories.

    Pleas explain the science behind the claim that cold pasta has less calories than hot pasta of the same serving size.

    Ignore it. The "study" that meme is based on amounted to the equivalent of 2g of carbs - 8 calories worth! - becoming "resistant".
  • ana3067
    ana3067 Posts: 5,623 Member
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  • mummyzena
    mummyzena Posts: 259 Member
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    Soup is an easy habit to get into. 'It's a good lunch and fills you up more than just eating the ingredients on their own.

    'This is because it has the added ingredient of salty water, which fills you up.'



    This might be my favorite part. I'm just gonna drink salt water from now on. That sounds like an awesome new diet plan. (For those who might not recognize, total sarcasm. Do NOT do this.)

    Seems like a man with an agenda gave that advice.
  • freeoscar
    freeoscar Posts: 82 Member
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    JoRumbles wrote: »
    I'm not a chemist. Read this http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-29629761 for the basics then try pubmed for the associated peer-review literature

    Interesting. From a calorie burning perspective, though, does this have a material impact? I tend to think that the idea that different types or textures of food require different amount of calories to digest is probably true, but that the differences are trivial in the context of the typical 1200-3000 daily caloric intake. But I'm just speculating.

  • kellienw335
    kellienw335 Posts: 1,745 Member
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    What in the world is a Digestive Cookie?
  • MonsoonStorm
    MonsoonStorm Posts: 371 Member
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    999tigger wrote: »
    The DM often spins health stories one way and then the other way the following day.
    Its the worlds most popular newspaper site by some margin.

    I think this is mostly down to the fact that it's free and a well known name.

    Unfortunately the less trashy newspapers prefer to charge you to read a lot of their online content.
  • Mr_Knight
    Mr_Knight Posts: 9,532 Member
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    What in the world is a Digestive Cookie?

    Has sodium bicarbonate as an ingredient. Think of it as the world's first alka seltzer, dressed up as a semi-sweet cookie.