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  • groovigyrl
    groovigyrl Posts: 72 Member
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    Mechanised wrote: »
    Quite some suggestions here and here is mine;

    So not focus solely on your calories. It is only an overall indication. Your planning should be based on your training schedule and daily life. Times you eat carbs and fats, your antioxidant levels, vitamin and mineral levels et cetera all are as important.

    For example, studies have shown that having more fat in the morning and more carb afternoon helps a bit more to fat burning processes. You can try not consuming carb after a certain hour and no solid meal in the evening to enhance your fat burnt.

    This is something I can talk all day but all in all it is the small adjustmenta that gives you that small push you are looking for...

    Excellent advice. I'll try this. Thanks!
  • RGv2
    RGv2 Posts: 5,789 Member
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    groovigyrl wrote: »
    Mechanised wrote: »
    Quite some suggestions here and here is mine;

    So not focus solely on your calories. It is only an overall indication. Your planning should be based on your training schedule and daily life. Times you eat carbs and fats, your antioxidant levels, vitamin and mineral levels et cetera all are as important.

    For example, studies have shown that having more fat in the morning and more carb afternoon helps a bit more to fat burning processes. You can try not consuming carb after a certain hour and no solid meal in the evening to enhance your fat burnt.

    This is something I can talk all day but all in all it is the small adjustmenta that gives you that small push you are looking for...

    Excellent advice. I'll try this. Thanks!

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  • groovigyrl
    groovigyrl Posts: 72 Member
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    RGv2 wrote: »
    Mechanised wrote: »
    Quite some suggestions here and here is mine;

    So not focus solely on your calories. It is only an overall indication. Your planning should be based on your training schedule and daily life. Times you eat carbs and fats, your antioxidant levels, vitamin and mineral levels et cetera all are as important.

    For example, studies have shown that having more fat in the morning and more carb afternoon helps a bit more to fat burning processes. You can try not consuming carb after a certain hour and no solid meal in the evening to enhance your fat burnt.

    This is something I can talk all day but all in all it is the small adjustmenta that gives you that small push you are looking for...

    Care to provide any of those studies?

    Actually, I've learned some things here.

    According to Prof. Froy, "Our research shows that the timing of food consumption takes precedence over the amount of fat in the diet, leading to improved metabolism and helping to prevent obesity. Improving metabolism through the careful scheduling of meals, without limiting the content of the daily menu, could be used as a therapeutic tool to prevent obesity in humans."

    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/09/120912084430.htm

    http://www.huji.ac.il/cgi-bin/dovrut/dovrut_search_eng.pl?mesge135262755005872560

    http://www.menshealth.com/weight-loss/eat-carbs-at-night
  • RGv2
    RGv2 Posts: 5,789 Member
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    groovigyrl wrote: »
    RGv2 wrote: »
    Mechanised wrote: »
    Quite some suggestions here and here is mine;

    So not focus solely on your calories. It is only an overall indication. Your planning should be based on your training schedule and daily life. Times you eat carbs and fats, your antioxidant levels, vitamin and mineral levels et cetera all are as important.

    For example, studies have shown that having more fat in the morning and more carb afternoon helps a bit more to fat burning processes. You can try not consuming carb after a certain hour and no solid meal in the evening to enhance your fat burnt.

    This is something I can talk all day but all in all it is the small adjustmenta that gives you that small push you are looking for...

    Care to provide any of those studies?

    Actually, I've learned some things here.

    According to Prof. Froy, "Our research shows that the timing of food consumption takes precedence over the amount of fat in the diet, leading to improved metabolism and helping to prevent obesity. Improving metabolism through the careful scheduling of meals, without limiting the content of the daily menu, could be used as a therapeutic tool to prevent obesity in humans."

    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/09/120912084430.htm

    http://www.huji.ac.il/cgi-bin/dovrut/dovrut_search_eng.pl?mesge135262755005872560

    http://www.menshealth.com/weight-loss/eat-carbs-at-night

    So no?

    What's funny is the end of the Men's Health link actually refutes it.

    "It's important to note that researchers didn't track the cops' physical activity, and officers self-reported how much they ate. In other words, we don’t really know what they ate—or if their weight loss came from exercise instead of diet, says Aragon. "
  • 4legsRbetterthan2
    4legsRbetterthan2 Posts: 19,590 MFP Moderator
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    gravenhale wrote: »
    It does!!I've been at 1220 for 2 weeks, I started at that and ive stayed with it. The trick is to eat low calorie things that fill you up. Aldo snack throughout the day to keep metabolism up and help curb appetite

    Your metabolism never stops working and cannot be 'kept up', but that is a good tip for curbing appetite, yes.

    OP, chances are that you could lose weight eating more than that. What are your stats? Height, weight and how much you want to lose. :smile:

    I'm 5'4, around 55kg, want to get to around 50kg :) and thank you everyone for the tips!
    Maybe this is why.
    You're already very slim!
    Maybe you just need to tone up, rather than lose weight.

    This

    you may have body image issues too

  • Mechanised
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    RGv2 wrote: »
    groovigyrl wrote: »
    RGv2 wrote: »
    Mechanised wrote: »
    Quite some suggestions here and here is mine;

    So not focus solely on your calories. It is only an overall indication. Your planning should be based on your training schedule and daily life. Times you eat carbs and fats, your antioxidant levels, vitamin and mineral levels et cetera all are as important.

    For example, studies have shown that having more fat in the morning and more carb afternoon helps a bit more to fat burning processes. You can try not consuming carb after a certain hour and no solid meal in the evening to enhance your fat burnt.

    This is something I can talk all day but all in all it is the small adjustmenta that gives you that small push you are looking for...

    Care to provide any of those studies?

    Actually, I've learned some things here.

    According to Prof. Froy, "Our research shows that the timing of food consumption takes precedence over the amount of fat in the diet, leading to improved metabolism and helping to prevent obesity. Improving metabolism through the careful scheduling of meals, without limiting the content of the daily menu, could be used as a therapeutic tool to prevent obesity in humans."

    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/09/120912084430.htm

    http://www.huji.ac.il/cgi-bin/dovrut/dovrut_search_eng.pl?mesge135262755005872560

    http://www.menshealth.com/weight-loss/eat-carbs-at-night

    So no?

    What's funny is the end of the Men's Health link actually refutes it.

    "It's important to note that researchers didn't track the cops' physical activity, and officers self-reported how much they ate. In other words, we don’t really know what they ate—or if their weight loss came from exercise instead of diet, says Aragon. "

    Hi,

    Unfortunately, I do not keep the links or the publications as well. But I do bot base these kinds of advices on magazines or whatsoever. You can use publication search engines to search through even how exactly each supplement affects the body in short and long therm. You can even find people that published those from researchgate. Thats what I mostly do. This is due to me also being sceptical about what products own label tells.

    Sorry that I did not share a direct link.

    Cheers.
  • cbills65
    cbills65 Posts: 164 Member
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    *sigh*
  • RGv2
    RGv2 Posts: 5,789 Member
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    Mechanised wrote: »
    RGv2 wrote: »
    groovigyrl wrote: »
    RGv2 wrote: »
    Mechanised wrote: »
    Quite some suggestions here and here is mine;

    So not focus solely on your calories. It is only an overall indication. Your planning should be based on your training schedule and daily life. Times you eat carbs and fats, your antioxidant levels, vitamin and mineral levels et cetera all are as important.

    For example, studies have shown that having more fat in the morning and more carb afternoon helps a bit more to fat burning processes. You can try not consuming carb after a certain hour and no solid meal in the evening to enhance your fat burnt.

    This is something I can talk all day but all in all it is the small adjustmenta that gives you that small push you are looking for...

    Care to provide any of those studies?

    Actually, I've learned some things here.

    According to Prof. Froy, "Our research shows that the timing of food consumption takes precedence over the amount of fat in the diet, leading to improved metabolism and helping to prevent obesity. Improving metabolism through the careful scheduling of meals, without limiting the content of the daily menu, could be used as a therapeutic tool to prevent obesity in humans."

    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/09/120912084430.htm

    http://www.huji.ac.il/cgi-bin/dovrut/dovrut_search_eng.pl?mesge135262755005872560

    http://www.menshealth.com/weight-loss/eat-carbs-at-night

    So no?

    What's funny is the end of the Men's Health link actually refutes it.

    "It's important to note that researchers didn't track the cops' physical activity, and officers self-reported how much they ate. In other words, we don’t really know what they ate—or if their weight loss came from exercise instead of diet, says Aragon. "

    Hi,

    Unfortunately, I do not keep the links or the publications as well. But I do bot base these kinds of advices on magazines or whatsoever. You can use publication search engines to search through even how exactly each supplement affects the body in short and long therm. You can even find people that published those from researchgate. Thats what I mostly do. This is due to me also being sceptical about what products own label tells.

    Sorry that I did not share a direct link.

    Cheers.

    Sorry, if you make the claim, you get the burden of proof. Not saying "go find it for yourself".
  • FitForL1fe
    FitForL1fe Posts: 1,872 Member
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    Mechanised wrote: »
    RGv2 wrote: »
    groovigyrl wrote: »
    RGv2 wrote: »
    Mechanised wrote: »
    Quite some suggestions here and here is mine;

    So not focus solely on your calories. It is only an overall indication. Your planning should be based on your training schedule and daily life. Times you eat carbs and fats, your antioxidant levels, vitamin and mineral levels et cetera all are as important.

    For example, studies have shown that having more fat in the morning and more carb afternoon helps a bit more to fat burning processes. You can try not consuming carb after a certain hour and no solid meal in the evening to enhance your fat burnt.

    This is something I can talk all day but all in all it is the small adjustmenta that gives you that small push you are looking for...

    Care to provide any of those studies?

    Actually, I've learned some things here.

    According to Prof. Froy, "Our research shows that the timing of food consumption takes precedence over the amount of fat in the diet, leading to improved metabolism and helping to prevent obesity. Improving metabolism through the careful scheduling of meals, without limiting the content of the daily menu, could be used as a therapeutic tool to prevent obesity in humans."

    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/09/120912084430.htm

    http://www.huji.ac.il/cgi-bin/dovrut/dovrut_search_eng.pl?mesge135262755005872560

    http://www.menshealth.com/weight-loss/eat-carbs-at-night

    So no?

    What's funny is the end of the Men's Health link actually refutes it.

    "It's important to note that researchers didn't track the cops' physical activity, and officers self-reported how much they ate. In other words, we don’t really know what they ate—or if their weight loss came from exercise instead of diet, says Aragon. "

    Hi,

    Unfortunately, I do not keep the links or the publications as well. But I do bot base these kinds of advices on magazines or whatsoever. You can use publication search engines to search through even how exactly each supplement affects the body in short and long therm. You can even find people that published those from researchgate. Thats what I mostly do. This is due to me also being sceptical about what products own label tells.

    Sorry that I did not share a direct link.

    Cheers.

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  • hezemakiah
    hezemakiah Posts: 157 Member
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    I've been doing 1200 since February 1st. I have good days where I almost can't get to 1200, and others where I could eat everything in sight. But knowing how I got here keeps me focused on the 1200. For me it didn't really get easier, I just learned how to manage it with both diet and exercise :)
  • RGv2
    RGv2 Posts: 5,789 Member
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    hezemakiah wrote: »
    I've been doing 1200 since February 1st. I have good days where I almost can't get to 1200, and others where I could eat everything in sight. But knowing how I got here keeps me focused on the 1200. For me it didn't really get easier, I just learned how to manage it with both diet and exercise :)

    Good luck with your weight loss, but I need to point out that comparing your situation to the OPs situation is like comparing apples to soccer balls.
  • Mechanised
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    RGv2 wrote: »
    Mechanised wrote: »
    RGv2 wrote: »
    groovigyrl wrote: »
    RGv2 wrote: »
    Mechanised wrote: »
    Quite some suggestions here and here is mine;

    So not focus solely on your calories. It is only an overall indication. Your planning should be based on your training schedule and daily life. Times you eat carbs and fats, your antioxidant levels, vitamin and mineral levels et cetera all are as important.

    For example, studies have shown that having more fat in the morning and more carb afternoon helps a bit more to fat burning processes. You can try not consuming carb after a certain hour and no solid meal in the evening to enhance your fat burnt.

    This is something I can talk all day but all in all it is the small adjustmenta that gives you that small push you are looking for...

    Care to provide any of those studies?

    Actually, I've learned some things here.

    According to Prof. Froy, "Our research shows that the timing of food consumption takes precedence over the amount of fat in the diet, leading to improved metabolism and helping to prevent obesity. Improving metabolism through the careful scheduling of meals, without limiting the content of the daily menu, could be used as a therapeutic tool to prevent obesity in humans."

    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/09/120912084430.htm

    http://www.huji.ac.il/cgi-bin/dovrut/dovrut_search_eng.pl?mesge135262755005872560

    http://www.menshealth.com/weight-loss/eat-carbs-at-night

    So no?

    What's funny is the end of the Men's Health link actually refutes it.

    "It's important to note that researchers didn't track the cops' physical activity, and officers self-reported how much they ate. In other words, we don’t really know what they ate—or if their weight loss came from exercise instead of diet, says Aragon. "

    Hi,

    Unfortunately, I do not keep the links or the publications as well. But I do bot base these kinds of advices on magazines or whatsoever. You can use publication search engines to search through even how exactly each supplement affects the body in short and long therm. You can even find people that published those from researchgate. Thats what I mostly do. This is due to me also being sceptical about what products own label tells.

    Sorry that I did not share a direct link.

    Cheers.

    Sorry, if you make the claim, you get the burden of proof. Not saying "go find it for yourself".

    Well, I took the time to find out where I heard that the first it was bodybuilding.com apparently. This was told by Jacob Wilson, PhD, a professor and director of the skeletal muscle and sports nutrition laboratory at the University of Tampa. Project Mass is the name.

    I would understand choosing to beleive or not to beleive, I did not force an information I shared something I found logical. I trust more into science than any other thing as someone whos profession is in science.

    Cheers.

    To OP: Sorry for getting out of topic.
  • RGv2
    RGv2 Posts: 5,789 Member
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    Mechanised wrote: »
    RGv2 wrote: »
    Mechanised wrote: »
    RGv2 wrote: »
    groovigyrl wrote: »
    RGv2 wrote: »
    Mechanised wrote: »
    Quite some suggestions here and here is mine;

    So not focus solely on your calories. It is only an overall indication. Your planning should be based on your training schedule and daily life. Times you eat carbs and fats, your antioxidant levels, vitamin and mineral levels et cetera all are as important.

    For example, studies have shown that having more fat in the morning and more carb afternoon helps a bit more to fat burning processes. You can try not consuming carb after a certain hour and no solid meal in the evening to enhance your fat burnt.

    This is something I can talk all day but all in all it is the small adjustmenta that gives you that small push you are looking for...

    Care to provide any of those studies?

    Actually, I've learned some things here.

    According to Prof. Froy, "Our research shows that the timing of food consumption takes precedence over the amount of fat in the diet, leading to improved metabolism and helping to prevent obesity. Improving metabolism through the careful scheduling of meals, without limiting the content of the daily menu, could be used as a therapeutic tool to prevent obesity in humans."

    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/09/120912084430.htm

    http://www.huji.ac.il/cgi-bin/dovrut/dovrut_search_eng.pl?mesge135262755005872560

    http://www.menshealth.com/weight-loss/eat-carbs-at-night

    So no?

    What's funny is the end of the Men's Health link actually refutes it.

    "It's important to note that researchers didn't track the cops' physical activity, and officers self-reported how much they ate. In other words, we don’t really know what they ate—or if their weight loss came from exercise instead of diet, says Aragon. "

    Hi,

    Unfortunately, I do not keep the links or the publications as well. But I do bot base these kinds of advices on magazines or whatsoever. You can use publication search engines to search through even how exactly each supplement affects the body in short and long therm. You can even find people that published those from researchgate. Thats what I mostly do. This is due to me also being sceptical about what products own label tells.

    Sorry that I did not share a direct link.

    Cheers.

    Sorry, if you make the claim, you get the burden of proof. Not saying "go find it for yourself".

    Well, I took the time to find out where I heard that the first it was bodybuilding.com apparently. This was told by Jacob Wilson, PhD, a professor and director of the skeletal muscle and sports nutrition laboratory at the University of Tampa. Project Mass is the name.

    I would understand choosing to beleive or not to beleive, I did not force an information I shared something I found logical. I trust more into science than any other thing as someone whos profession is in science.

    Cheers.

    To OP: Sorry for getting out of topic.

    So, you can't provide the links than? First it was studies, now it's bodybuilding.com. You made a claim to "studies", I'm just asking for them.
  • gravenhale
    gravenhale Posts: 8 Member
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    RGv2 wrote: »
    gravenhale wrote: »
    Thanks everyone. I have actually bumped up my calorie goal to 1500 because I was too hungry. Even that isn't much, but I don't beat myself up if I go a little over. I guess I want to lose weight because I don't like how my body looks a lot of the time when I look in the mirror. I also get bloated a lot, which doesn't help. I am exercising, eating healthy foods and trying not to be too hard on myself though. :)

    What does your training regimine look like? Can you please provide that? Also, now that you indicate that you are exercising, are you eating 1200-1500 net or gross calories.

    If you don't think you pass the "mirror test", at your ht/wt/age you don't really need to lose weight per se. What you want is a body recomp, because you don't really need to lose weight. What you're looking for is a lower BF%. Eating at a deficit to lose weight means loss of fat, water, AND muscle. Eat at a smaller deficit, get on a solid weight training program, and do cardio if you like it. What this will do is help you maintain muscle mass while dropping mainly fat and water. This strips the fat from the muscle you're maintaining giving you more muscle definition. The scale may not drop very fast, but you should be able to see your progress in the mirror.

    For about 2 years I have been working out. For the past year and a bit I have been working out 5-6 times a week, 40-60 mins each time. I do a mixture of cardio and strength training, mostly following videos on YouTube. After reading your reply, I do think it's my body fat % I'd like to drop rather than my total weight. I eat a good combination of fat, carbs and protein. It's difficult to know what to do exactly correcting though, as there are so many different scientific studies saying different things, it's hard to know what to believe. Plus, everyone's bodies respond differently to different diets, so I've heard - and that makes sense. I like your advice, and I think for me it's just a matter of getting where I want to be with persistence and hard work.
  • gravenhale
    gravenhale Posts: 8 Member
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    gravenhale wrote: »
    RGv2 wrote: »
    gravenhale wrote: »
    Thanks everyone. I have actually bumped up my calorie goal to 1500 because I was too hungry. Even that isn't much, but I don't beat myself up if I go a little over. I guess I want to lose weight because I don't like how my body looks a lot of the time when I look in the mirror. I also get bloated a lot, which doesn't help. I am exercising, eating healthy foods and trying not to be too hard on myself though. :)

    What does your training regimine look like? Can you please provide that? Also, now that you indicate that you are exercising, are you eating 1200-1500 net or gross calories.

    If you don't think you pass the "mirror test", at your ht/wt/age you don't really need to lose weight per se. What you want is a body recomp, because you don't really need to lose weight. What you're looking for is a lower BF%. Eating at a deficit to lose weight means loss of fat, water, AND muscle. Eat at a smaller deficit, get on a solid weight training program, and do cardio if you like it. What this will do is help you maintain muscle mass while dropping mainly fat and water. This strips the fat from the muscle you're maintaining giving you more muscle definition. The scale may not drop very fast, but you should be able to see your progress in the mirror.

    For about 2 years I have been working out. For the past year and a bit I have been working out 5-6 times a week, 40-60 mins each time. I do a mixture of cardio and strength training, mostly following videos on YouTube. After reading your reply, I do think it's my body fat % I'd like to drop rather than my total weight. I eat a good combination of fat, carbs and protein. It's difficult to know what to do exactly correcting though, as there are so many different scientific studies saying different things, it's hard to know what to believe. Plus, everyone's bodies respond differently to different diets, so I've heard - and that makes sense. I like your advice, and I think for me it's just a matter of getting where I want to be with persistence and hard work.

    Oh, and also, I am eating over 1500 calories if I've burnt calories through exercise.
  • NekoneMeowMixx
    NekoneMeowMixx Posts: 410 Member
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    I'm in a similar boat, OP (wanting to drop body fat %) but you sound like you're TINY as it is... Shriveling yourself up won't get rid of bloating. I mean, if you STARVE yourself, you'll bloat. Your body holds onto everything and anything that it can, just to sustain you...

    I saw great results when I went from 1200 to 1400 calories a day. Lost about 9 pounds (hitting 132 pounds) and definitely noticed a slim up. I'm 23 years old, 5 foot 6, and currently 137 pounds. I'm eating at/just below maintenance (1700) and weight lifting 3 days a week (Stronglifts 5x5) you sound like you need to recomp/bulk up. Don't focus on weight loss-- you're already where you need to be there.

    Best luck!