Juicing

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  • brianpperkins
    brianpperkins Posts: 6,124 Member
    dmrgriff wrote: »
    Oh .. the irony of a person complaining that store juice has things added to 100% juice (which it doesn't) then admitting that they add other things when they juice.

    Intellectual consistency is not a feature of this thread.

    lol fresh juicing is way better than store bought 100% juice!!! Fresh juicing contains more vitamins and minerals most of the time juices you buy at the store have added sugar . There's no fighting that . People can buy store juice if they want to. Not a problem ! I just prefer fresh over sitting juice

    If sugar is added, it is no longer 100% juice.

    Are you planning on making any factually correct statements at any point in the lifespan of this thread? Or are name calling and misguided accusations of ignorance all you have to offer?
  • brianpperkins
    brianpperkins Posts: 6,124 Member
    dmrgriff wrote: »
    dmrgriff wrote: »
    Oh .. the irony of a person complaining that store juice has things added to 100% juice (which it doesn't) then admitting that they add other things when they juice.

    Intellectual consistency is not a feature of this thread.

    lol fresh juicing is way better than store bought 100% juice!!! Fresh juicing contains more vitamins and minerals most of the time juices you buy at the store have added sugar . There's no fighting that . People can buy store juice if they want to. Not a problem ! I just prefer fresh over sitting juice

    Do you have a source for the claim that juice that is made at home contains more vitamins and minerals than juice that you purchase? Since you can easily buy juice that doesn't contain added sugar (or you can add sugar to juice you make at home), that particular point is irrelevant.

    Yeah look it up!

    So, no, you do not have a source but you hope others will go find one for you.
  • MarziPanda95
    MarziPanda95 Posts: 1,326 Member
    dmrgriff wrote: »
    dmrgriff wrote: »
    dmrgriff wrote: »
    dmrgriff wrote: »
    No sugar is not the only reason just stating its all natural going into our bodies .

    How is the sugar in juice that you purchase in the store "unnatural"?

    Any juice you usually buy in stores in concentrate . Not close to the real deal. Even if it says 100% juice it's still not as good as making it in your home. Especially if you add your own vegetables to the juice like kale or collard greens . I personally like to known everything that's being put in. Read the juice labels next time you go to the store or if you. Have it you will see they add a lot of other things than juice . I don't want all that added stuff

    I have purchased not from concentrate juice at stores all over the US, usually at regular grocery stores. I'm not really sure what you think the concentration is doing that is negative, but there are options available for people who wish to avoid it.

    I do read the label when I buy juice. It contains juice from a piece of fruit. There are no other ingredients. If you don't want anything added to your juice, there are plenty of options that meet your needs.

    If you want to juice at home, that isn't a problem. I like to make many things at home that I can purchase because I like the taste of mine better or I find the process pleasant. But you seem to be doing this from a place of misunderstanding (or possibly fear) and I don't think that it is based on valid reasons. It also seems to be inconsistent. You put all this thought into juice, but you eat Jell-O, a food that is much more processed and contains many more "unknowns" than a bottle of juice.

    Look If you feel fine drinking juice from the stores go ahead . I don't think their as good as making it from home.

    Yes, I understand that. My question is: do you have a valid reason for thinking that?
    Your getting more vitamins and minerals from fresh juicing . And most 100% juice your buying has added sugar that I don't particularly want

    What part of '100% juice does not contain added sugar' don't you seem to get...? If it says 100% juice, then it DOES NOT contain added sugar. At most, home made juice tastes better, and that's pretty much the only benefit.
  • janejellyroll
    janejellyroll Posts: 25,763 Member
    dmrgriff wrote: »
    dmrgriff wrote: »
    dmrgriff wrote: »
    dmrgriff wrote: »
    No sugar is not the only reason just stating its all natural going into our bodies .

    How is the sugar in juice that you purchase in the store "unnatural"?

    Any juice you usually buy in stores in concentrate . Not close to the real deal. Even if it says 100% juice it's still not as good as making it in your home. Especially if you add your own vegetables to the juice like kale or collard greens . I personally like to known everything that's being put in. Read the juice labels next time you go to the store or if you. Have it you will see they add a lot of other things than juice . I don't want all that added stuff

    I have purchased not from concentrate juice at stores all over the US, usually at regular grocery stores. I'm not really sure what you think the concentration is doing that is negative, but there are options available for people who wish to avoid it.

    I do read the label when I buy juice. It contains juice from a piece of fruit. There are no other ingredients. If you don't want anything added to your juice, there are plenty of options that meet your needs.

    If you want to juice at home, that isn't a problem. I like to make many things at home that I can purchase because I like the taste of mine better or I find the process pleasant. But you seem to be doing this from a place of misunderstanding (or possibly fear) and I don't think that it is based on valid reasons. It also seems to be inconsistent. You put all this thought into juice, but you eat Jell-O, a food that is much more processed and contains many more "unknowns" than a bottle of juice.

    Look If you feel fine drinking juice from the stores go ahead . I don't think their as good as making it from home.

    Yes, I understand that. My question is: do you have a valid reason for thinking that?
    Your getting more vitamins and minerals from fresh juicing . And most 100% juice your buying has added sugar that I don't particularly want

    What is your source for the claim that you get more vitamins and minerals from fresh juicing?

    100% juice cannot have added sugar. That is what it means. Some juice sold in the store does have added sugar. Many others do not. I think part of this issue might stem from your misunderstanding of food labels and what they mean. If something is labeled "100% juice," it will never have sugar added to it. All the sugar in it will be from the fruits themselves. This is identical to the juice you make at home (unless you choose to add sugar to the juice that you make).
  • dmrgriff
    dmrgriff Posts: 27
    dmrgriff wrote: »
    Oh .. the irony of a person complaining that store juice has things added to 100% juice (which it doesn't) then admitting that they add other things when they juice.

    Intellectual consistency is not a feature of this thread.

    lol fresh juicing is way better than store bought 100% juice!!! Fresh juicing contains more vitamins and minerals most of the time juices you buy at the store have added sugar . There's no fighting that . People can buy store juice if they want to. Not a problem ! I just prefer fresh over sitting juice

    If sugar is added, it is no longer 100% juice.

    Are you planning on making any factually correct statements at any point in the lifespan of this thread? Or are name calling and misguided accusations of ignorance all you have to offer?

    Lol Brian your someone who thinks their always right just stop replying to my thread for someone who's so smart haha! If you don't agree with someone then stop replying? Your making my thread pointless
  • brianpperkins
    brianpperkins Posts: 6,124 Member
    dmrgriff wrote: »
    dmrgriff wrote: »
    Oh .. the irony of a person complaining that store juice has things added to 100% juice (which it doesn't) then admitting that they add other things when they juice.

    Intellectual consistency is not a feature of this thread.

    lol fresh juicing is way better than store bought 100% juice!!! Fresh juicing contains more vitamins and minerals most of the time juices you buy at the store have added sugar . There's no fighting that . People can buy store juice if they want to. Not a problem ! I just prefer fresh over sitting juice

    If sugar is added, it is no longer 100% juice.

    Are you planning on making any factually correct statements at any point in the lifespan of this thread? Or are name calling and misguided accusations of ignorance all you have to offer?

    Lol Brian your someone who thinks their always right just stop replying to my thread for someone who's so smart haha! If you don't agree with someone then stop replying? Your making my thread pointless

    I, along with the others countering your posts, are the only ones making points in this thread. You are spouting nothing but misinformation.
  • branflakes1980
    branflakes1980 Posts: 2,516 Member
    dmrgriff wrote: »
    dmrgriff wrote: »
    Oh .. the irony of a person complaining that store juice has things added to 100% juice (which it doesn't) then admitting that they add other things when they juice.

    Intellectual consistency is not a feature of this thread.

    lol fresh juicing is way better than store bought 100% juice!!! Fresh juicing contains more vitamins and minerals most of the time juices you buy at the store have added sugar . There's no fighting that . People can buy store juice if they want to. Not a problem ! I just prefer fresh over sitting juice

    If sugar is added, it is no longer 100% juice.

    Are you planning on making any factually correct statements at any point in the lifespan of this thread? Or are name calling and misguided accusations of ignorance all you have to offer?

    Lol Brian your someone who thinks their always right just stop replying to my thread for someone who's so smart haha! If you don't agree with someone then stop replying? Your making my thread pointless

    I believe you did that all on your own "buddy"

  • janejellyroll
    janejellyroll Posts: 25,763 Member
    dmrgriff wrote: »
    dmrgriff wrote: »
    Oh .. the irony of a person complaining that store juice has things added to 100% juice (which it doesn't) then admitting that they add other things when they juice.

    Intellectual consistency is not a feature of this thread.

    lol fresh juicing is way better than store bought 100% juice!!! Fresh juicing contains more vitamins and minerals most of the time juices you buy at the store have added sugar . There's no fighting that . People can buy store juice if they want to. Not a problem ! I just prefer fresh over sitting juice

    If sugar is added, it is no longer 100% juice.

    Are you planning on making any factually correct statements at any point in the lifespan of this thread? Or are name calling and misguided accusations of ignorance all you have to offer?

    Lol Brian your someone who thinks their always right just stop replying to my thread for someone who's so smart haha! If you don't agree with someone then stop replying? Your making my thread pointless

    I think people disagreeing with you is actually increasing the "pointiness" of this thread.
  • dmrgriff
    dmrgriff Posts: 27
    dmrgriff wrote: »
    dmrgriff wrote: »
    dmrgriff wrote: »
    dmrgriff wrote: »
    No sugar is not the only reason just stating its all natural going into our bodies .

    How is the sugar in juice that you purchase in the store "unnatural"?

    Any juice you usually buy in stores in concentrate . Not close to the real deal. Even if it says 100% juice it's still not as good as making it in your home. Especially if you add your own vegetables to the juice like kale or collard greens . I personally like to known everything that's being put in. Read the juice labels next time you go to the store or if you. Have it you will see they add a lot of other things than juice . I don't want all that added stuff

    I have purchased not from concentrate juice at stores all over the US, usually at regular grocery stores. I'm not really sure what you think the concentration is doing that is negative, but there are options available for people who wish to avoid it.

    I do read the label when I buy juice. It contains juice from a piece of fruit. There are no other ingredients. If you don't want anything added to your juice, there are plenty of options that meet your needs.

    If you want to juice at home, that isn't a problem. I like to make many things at home that I can purchase because I like the taste of mine better or I find the process pleasant. But you seem to be doing this from a place of misunderstanding (or possibly fear) and I don't think that it is based on valid reasons. It also seems to be inconsistent. You put all this thought into juice, but you eat Jell-O, a food that is much more processed and contains many more "unknowns" than a bottle of juice.

    Look If you feel fine drinking juice from the stores go ahead . I don't think their as good as making it from home.

    Yes, I understand that. My question is: do you have a valid reason for thinking that?
    Your getting more vitamins and minerals from fresh juicing . And most 100% juice your buying has added sugar that I don't particularly want

    What is your source for the claim that you get more vitamins and minerals from fresh juicing?

    100% juice cannot have added sugar. That is what it means. Some juice sold in the store does have added sugar. Many others do not. I think part of this issue might stem from your misunderstanding of food labels and what they mean. If something is labeled "100% juice," it will never have sugar added to it. All the sugar in it will be from the fruits themselves. This is identical to the juice you make at home (unless you choose to add sugar to the juice that you make).

    If you like labels get them! We have two different opinions you like manufactured and I like making my own! I don't have misunderstanding I just believe that making things myself I'm more aware of what's going on. My inlaw was drinking store bought for years and it's funny when he started juicing his blood levels turned out for the better. Just saying we have different opinions .
  • brianpperkins
    brianpperkins Posts: 6,124 Member
    edited April 2015
    Yet another change in the pseudo-logic.

    Opinion is not a substitute for fact ... and your diatribes are devoid of fact.
  • janejellyroll
    janejellyroll Posts: 25,763 Member
    dmrgriff wrote: »
    dmrgriff wrote: »
    dmrgriff wrote: »
    dmrgriff wrote: »
    dmrgriff wrote: »
    No sugar is not the only reason just stating its all natural going into our bodies .

    How is the sugar in juice that you purchase in the store "unnatural"?

    Any juice you usually buy in stores in concentrate . Not close to the real deal. Even if it says 100% juice it's still not as good as making it in your home. Especially if you add your own vegetables to the juice like kale or collard greens . I personally like to known everything that's being put in. Read the juice labels next time you go to the store or if you. Have it you will see they add a lot of other things than juice . I don't want all that added stuff

    I have purchased not from concentrate juice at stores all over the US, usually at regular grocery stores. I'm not really sure what you think the concentration is doing that is negative, but there are options available for people who wish to avoid it.

    I do read the label when I buy juice. It contains juice from a piece of fruit. There are no other ingredients. If you don't want anything added to your juice, there are plenty of options that meet your needs.

    If you want to juice at home, that isn't a problem. I like to make many things at home that I can purchase because I like the taste of mine better or I find the process pleasant. But you seem to be doing this from a place of misunderstanding (or possibly fear) and I don't think that it is based on valid reasons. It also seems to be inconsistent. You put all this thought into juice, but you eat Jell-O, a food that is much more processed and contains many more "unknowns" than a bottle of juice.

    Look If you feel fine drinking juice from the stores go ahead . I don't think their as good as making it from home.

    Yes, I understand that. My question is: do you have a valid reason for thinking that?
    Your getting more vitamins and minerals from fresh juicing . And most 100% juice your buying has added sugar that I don't particularly want

    What is your source for the claim that you get more vitamins and minerals from fresh juicing?

    100% juice cannot have added sugar. That is what it means. Some juice sold in the store does have added sugar. Many others do not. I think part of this issue might stem from your misunderstanding of food labels and what they mean. If something is labeled "100% juice," it will never have sugar added to it. All the sugar in it will be from the fruits themselves. This is identical to the juice you make at home (unless you choose to add sugar to the juice that you make).

    If you like labels get them! We have two different opinions you like manufactured and I like making my own! I don't have misunderstanding I just believe that making things myself I'm more aware of what's going on. My inlaw was drinking store bought for years and it's funny when he started juicing his blood levels turned out for the better. Just saying we have different opinions .

    So you don't have a source for that claim?

    Nobody is saying you can't drink your juice. I do think that you should refrain from making claims that can't be proven or claims that are outright false.

    Maybe your in-law did have better 'blood levels" (of what?) after he began juicing. Maybe that was the only change that he made and he did everything else the same. That still wouldn't prove the claims that you've made in this thread.

    Of course we have different opinions. But there is a consistent truth. "There are more vitamins in juice prepared at home" can't be true for you and false for me. "100% juice never has added sugar" can't be false for you and true for me. Do you truly believe that everything is relative?
  • dmrgriff
    dmrgriff Posts: 27
    Yet another change in the pseudo-logic.

    Opinion is not a substitute for fact ... and your diatribes are devoid of fact.

    Troll
  • janejellyroll
    janejellyroll Posts: 25,763 Member
    dmrgriff wrote: »
    dmrgriff wrote: »
    Oh .. the irony of a person complaining that store juice has things added to 100% juice (which it doesn't) then admitting that they add other things when they juice.

    Intellectual consistency is not a feature of this thread.

    lol fresh juicing is way better than store bought 100% juice!!! Fresh juicing contains more vitamins and minerals most of the time juices you buy at the store have added sugar . There's no fighting that . People can buy store juice if they want to. Not a problem ! I just prefer fresh over sitting juice

    Do you have a source for the claim that juice that is made at home contains more vitamins and minerals than juice that you purchase? Since you can easily buy juice that doesn't contain added sugar (or you can add sugar to juice you make at home), that particular point is irrelevant.

    Yeah look it up!

    Where should I look it up? I would like to see where you learned this fact. You must have learned it somewhere. You keep repeating it. Where did you hear it or read it?
  • wizzybeth
    wizzybeth Posts: 3,578 Member
    OK I think the pile up can stop. The OP has agreed to eat more and add more foods to her diet. She just prefers making fresh juice to buying store bought juice and that I can understand. If you've never tasted fresh made juice before it's amazing. When you make fresh apple juice then taste a glass of Apple & Eve, the difference is astonishing...the fresh apple juice tastes just like fresh cider from the mill...the bottled apple juice tastes...off. It's like eating canned spinach vs. fresh spinach.

    Ok so the nutrient claims are not able to be backed up. the point is, the OP asked if she was getting enough nutrition, everyone said no, the OP said OK I'll eat more.

    Nothing wrong with fresh juice. Tastes way better than anything you can buy. And it's more nutritious when you can add kale or spinach or other veggies to it than if it were straight fruit juice. The V8 Splash juices are "OK" but still taste sub-par compared to what you make yourself. The only exceptions I have found are orange juice and grape juice...they taste almost the same.
  • brianpperkins
    brianpperkins Posts: 6,124 Member
    OP,
    You keep resorting to name calling when facts counter you.
  • brianpperkins
    brianpperkins Posts: 6,124 Member
    wizzybeth wrote: »
    OK I think the pile up can stop. The OP has agreed to eat more and add more foods to her diet. She just prefers making fresh juice to buying store bought juice and that I can understand. If you've never tasted fresh made juice before it's amazing. When you make fresh apple juice then taste a glass of Apple & Eve, the difference is astonishing...the fresh apple juice tastes just like fresh cider from the mill...the bottled apple juice tastes...off. It's like eating canned spinach vs. fresh spinach.

    Ok so the nutrient claims are not able to be backed up. the point is, the OP asked if she was getting enough nutrition, everyone said no, the OP said OK I'll eat more.

    Nothing wrong with fresh juice. Tastes way better than anything you can buy. And it's more nutritious when you can add kale or spinach or other veggies to it than if it were straight fruit juice. The V8 Splash juices are "OK" but still taste sub-par compared to what you make yourself. The only exceptions I have found are orange juice and grape juice...they taste almost the same.

    If the OP would stop with the lies, nobody would have a reason to correct her.
  • janejellyroll
    janejellyroll Posts: 25,763 Member
    wizzybeth wrote: »
    OK I think the pile up can stop. The OP has agreed to eat more and add more foods to her diet. She just prefers making fresh juice to buying store bought juice and that I can understand. If you've never tasted fresh made juice before it's amazing. When you make fresh apple juice then taste a glass of Apple & Eve, the difference is astonishing...the fresh apple juice tastes just like fresh cider from the mill...the bottled apple juice tastes...off. It's like eating canned spinach vs. fresh spinach.

    Ok so the nutrient claims are not able to be backed up. the point is, the OP asked if she was getting enough nutrition, everyone said no, the OP said OK I'll eat more.

    Nothing wrong with fresh juice. Tastes way better than anything you can buy. And it's more nutritious when you can add kale or spinach or other veggies to it than if it were straight fruit juice. The V8 Splash juices are "OK" but still taste sub-par compared to what you make yourself. The only exceptions I have found are orange juice and grape juice...they taste almost the same.

    There is nothing wrong with fresh juice. If the OP had said "I love the taste of fresh juice and plan to keep including it in my plan," nobody would care.

    The issue is all the false claims in this thread. OP may never be able to understand the difference between 100% juice and juice with added sugar, but there may be other people reading this thread. False nutritional claims matter and they should be addressed.
  • dmrgriff
    dmrgriff Posts: 27
    wizzybeth wrote: »
    OK I think the pile up can stop. The OP has agreed to eat more and add more foods to her diet. She just prefers making fresh juice to buying store bought juice and that I can understand. If you've never tasted fresh made juice before it's amazing. When you make fresh apple juice then taste a glass of Apple & Eve, the difference is astonishing...the fresh apple juice tastes just like fresh cider from the mill...the bottled apple juice tastes...off. It's like eating canned spinach vs. fresh spinach.

    Ok so the nutrient claims are not able to be backed up. the point is, the OP asked if she was getting enough nutrition, everyone said no, the OP said OK I'll eat more.

    Nothing wrong with fresh juice. Tastes way better than anything you can buy. And it's more nutritious when you can add kale or spinach or other veggies to it than if it were straight fruit juice. The V8 Splash juices are "OK" but still taste sub-par compared to what you make yourself. The only exceptions I have found are orange juice and grape juice...they taste almost the same.

    Thank you.
    I have to make my orange juice with lemon to get it to taste like the Stores juice :) still really amazing! Never tried grape juice
  • wizzybeth
    wizzybeth Posts: 3,578 Member
    I understand that. I guess I just saw no reason earlier in the thread for people to call the OP a troll. Being misinformed or posting inaccurate information is one thing; calling someone a troll is not necessary, IMHO. It just makes drama escalate.
  • janejellyroll
    janejellyroll Posts: 25,763 Member
    wizzybeth wrote: »
    I understand that. I guess I just saw no reason earlier in the thread for people to call the OP a troll. Being misinformed or posting inaccurate information is one thing; calling someone a troll is not necessary, IMHO. It just makes drama escalate.

    I don't know if OP is a troll or not, but some of the early posts were consistent with things that trolls have said ("I'm not hungry on 600 calories, the diet pills take care of that," etc). I can understand why some people concluded that this thread wasn't legitimate.
  • dmrgriff
    dmrgriff Posts: 27
    wizzybeth wrote: »
    OK I think the pile up can stop. The OP has agreed to eat more and add more foods to her diet. She just prefers making fresh juice to buying store bought juice and that I can understand. If you've never tasted fresh made juice before it's amazing. When you make fresh apple juice then taste a glass of Apple & Eve, the difference is astonishing...the fresh apple juice tastes just like fresh cider from the mill...the bottled apple juice tastes...off. It's like eating canned spinach vs. fresh spinach.

    Ok so the nutrient claims are not able to be backed up. the point is, the OP asked if she was getting enough nutrition, everyone said no, the OP said OK I'll eat more.

    Nothing wrong with fresh juice. Tastes way better than anything you can buy. And it's more nutritious when you can add kale or spinach or other veggies to it than if it were straight fruit juice. The V8 Splash juices are "OK" but still taste sub-par compared to what you make yourself. The only exceptions I have found are orange juice and grape juice...they taste almost the same.

    There is nothing wrong with fresh juice. If the OP had said "I love the taste of fresh juice and plan to keep including it in my plan," nobody would care.

    The issue is all the false claims in this thread. OP may never be able to understand the difference between 100% juice and juice with added sugar, but there may be other people reading this thread. False nutritional claims matter and they should be addressed.


    Besides you two coming in their are a lot of people who believe %100 juice is not always what it says it is . Just two differ opinions that if other people read at least they will be more cautious when trying to figure out what kinds are okay for them or doing it themselves . Either way fruits and vegetables are great for bodies!
  • branflakes1980
    branflakes1980 Posts: 2,516 Member
    edited April 2015
    wizzybeth wrote: »
    I understand that. I guess I just saw no reason earlier in the thread for people to call the OP a troll. Being misinformed or posting inaccurate information is one thing; calling someone a troll is not necessary, IMHO. It just makes drama escalate.

    There was 2 posts that made it get questioned but then the comment about diet pills put everyone over the edge. Also, did you notice that she thanked you for your post and then stated that she has to add lemon to get it to taste like the store's (after she has argued for 2 pages that store bought juice doesn't taste as good as home made juice)? She is intentionally backpedalling, throwing out misinformation and attempting to get a rise out of people. That is the definition of a troll.

  • wizzybeth
    wizzybeth Posts: 3,578 Member
    Yeah the diet pill thing was something I had initially missed. But I know someone who frequently eats way under 1000 calories and is genuine. Sometimes she is just not hungry enough to eat more...I don't automatically assume someone is a troll because of that.
  • janejellyroll
    janejellyroll Posts: 25,763 Member
    dmrgriff wrote: »
    wizzybeth wrote: »
    OK I think the pile up can stop. The OP has agreed to eat more and add more foods to her diet. She just prefers making fresh juice to buying store bought juice and that I can understand. If you've never tasted fresh made juice before it's amazing. When you make fresh apple juice then taste a glass of Apple & Eve, the difference is astonishing...the fresh apple juice tastes just like fresh cider from the mill...the bottled apple juice tastes...off. It's like eating canned spinach vs. fresh spinach.

    Ok so the nutrient claims are not able to be backed up. the point is, the OP asked if she was getting enough nutrition, everyone said no, the OP said OK I'll eat more.

    Nothing wrong with fresh juice. Tastes way better than anything you can buy. And it's more nutritious when you can add kale or spinach or other veggies to it than if it were straight fruit juice. The V8 Splash juices are "OK" but still taste sub-par compared to what you make yourself. The only exceptions I have found are orange juice and grape juice...they taste almost the same.

    There is nothing wrong with fresh juice. If the OP had said "I love the taste of fresh juice and plan to keep including it in my plan," nobody would care.

    The issue is all the false claims in this thread. OP may never be able to understand the difference between 100% juice and juice with added sugar, but there may be other people reading this thread. False nutritional claims matter and they should be addressed.


    Besides you two coming in their are a lot of people who believe %100 juice is not always what it says it is . Just two differ opinions that if other people read at least they will be more cautious when trying to figure out what kinds are okay for them or doing it themselves . Either way fruits and vegetables are great for bodies!

    People may believe that "100% juice" has added sugar, but they are in error. The number of people who may believe this false claim will not magically make it more truthful.

    Unless this thread is going to devolve into conspiracy theories (food manufacturers are violating the law and putting sugar into bottles labelled 100% juice) or ruminations on whether truth actually exists (nothing is true, the world is only a collection of individual observations/opinions) that are all equally true, there really isn't anything else to say on the subject.
  • fishshark
    fishshark Posts: 1,886 Member
    i think the positive of juicing is you can add in veggies and not just have one fruit juice... but you really are missing out on fiber which is one of the best reasons to eat fresh fruits and veggies. A good amount of vitamins are fat soluble so if don't consume some sort of fat you are essentially going to just pee out the vitamins thus making the very expensive juice useless. There is nothing wrong with juicing but it should be an addition to a healthy diet and never a meal replacement. Sugar is sugar is sugar the body isn't going to decipher between sugar from an orange and sugar from a donut... the difference is the orange has a wide variety of nutrients the donut does not. It would be a good idea to start making smoothies with added veggies to them. I don't know if you are a troll, but i have raw vegan friends who juice like craze and refuse to listen to scientific logic when it comes to nutrition. Regardless if you are not feeding your child the way you do she will learn by association and grow to have a bad relationship of food.
  • dmrgriff
    dmrgriff Posts: 27
    wizzybeth wrote: »
    I understand that. I guess I just saw no reason earlier in the thread for people to call the OP a troll. Being misinformed or posting inaccurate information is one thing; calling someone a troll is not necessary, IMHO. It just makes drama escalate.

    I don't know if OP is a troll or not, but some of the early posts were consistent with things that trolls have said ("I'm not hungry on 600 calories, the diet pills take care of that," etc). I can understand why some people concluded that this thread wasn't legitimate.

    Jelly roll wants to talk about me being a troll when I say im
    wizzybeth wrote: »
    I understand that. I guess I just saw no reason earlier in the thread for people to call the OP a troll. Being misinformed or posting inaccurate information is one thing; calling someone a troll is not necessary, IMHO. It just makes drama escalate.

    There was 2 posts that made it get questioned but then the comment about diet pills put everyone over the edge. Also, did you notice that she thanked you for your post and then stated that she has to add lemon to get it to taste like the store's (after she has argued for 2 pages that store bought juice doesn't taste as good as home made juice)? She is intentionally backpedalling, throwing out misinformation and attempting to get a rise out of people. That is the definition of a troll.

    Wow! So by saying I add lemons to orange juice that makes me contradicting to myself ?? No if you read I believe that home made is way better than store juice period!
    And since when is taking diet pills while your dieting such a bad thing ! If you ever took them you know it craves your appetite some people differently ! That's how I'm not as hungry as I guess I shroud be ! I know now I have to eat more and I appreciated all the comments that people gave me advice wise! You people calling me a troll when I had a question is crazy or you have nothing better to do but to make yourselves sons correct online . This is an advice community . I stick by making juice at home is good for me ." Oh you see how she said she has to add lemon. She's contradicting herself" get over yourself! Your looking for a reason to argue ! Not to help .
  • wizzybeth
    wizzybeth Posts: 3,578 Member
    OP please stop taking diet pills. If you artificially suppress your appetite, rather than learn to eat within a certain amount of calories per day, what is going to happen when you get to "goal weight" and no longer take appetite suppressants?

    That's right - you're going to overeat and gain the weight back. Learn now to eat filling foods within the calories that are allotted to you each day. Then when you get to goal, you can figure out how many calories you need to maintain that weight and stay within those parameters and as long as you stay within that number of calories, you won't regain the weight.

    Diet pills or other appetite suppressants do nothing good. Honestly. They are worse than the added sugar in foods. :) They don't teach you to eat properly. At all. What they do is give you a reason to buy them again and again and again.

  • dmrgriff
    dmrgriff Posts: 27
    fishshark wrote: »
    i think the positive of juicing is you can add in veggies and not just have one fruit juice... but you really are missing out on fiber which is one of the best reasons to eat fresh fruits and veggies. A good amount of vitamins are fat soluble so if don't consume some sort of fat you are essentially going to just pee out the vitamins thus making the very expensive juice useless. There is nothing wrong with juicing but it should be an addition to a healthy diet and never a meal replacement. Sugar is sugar is sugar the body isn't going to decipher between sugar from an orange and sugar from a donut... the difference is the orange has a wide variety of nutrients the donut does not. It would be a good idea to start making smoothies with added veggies to them. I don't know if you are a troll, but i have raw vegan friends who juice like craze and refuse to listen to scientific logic when it comes to nutrition. Regardless if you are not feeding your child the way you do she will learn by association and grow to have a bad relationship of food.

    Thanks for advise
    but I doubt your a psychologist so scratch the kid part. Lol
  • fishshark
    fishshark Posts: 1,886 Member
    dmrgriff wrote: »
    fishshark wrote: »
    i think the positive of juicing is you can add in veggies and not just have one fruit juice... but you really are missing out on fiber which is one of the best reasons to eat fresh fruits and veggies. A good amount of vitamins are fat soluble so if don't consume some sort of fat you are essentially going to just pee out the vitamins thus making the very expensive juice useless. There is nothing wrong with juicing but it should be an addition to a healthy diet and never a meal replacement. Sugar is sugar is sugar the body isn't going to decipher between sugar from an orange and sugar from a donut... the difference is the orange has a wide variety of nutrients the donut does not. It would be a good idea to start making smoothies with added veggies to them. I don't know if you are a troll, but i have raw vegan friends who juice like craze and refuse to listen to scientific logic when it comes to nutrition. Regardless if you are not feeding your child the way you do she will learn by association and grow to have a bad relationship of food.

    Thanks for advise
    but I doubt your a psychologist so scratch the kid part. Lol

    you don't need to be a psychologist to have common sense.
  • janejellyroll
    janejellyroll Posts: 25,763 Member
    dmrgriff wrote: »
    wizzybeth wrote: »
    I understand that. I guess I just saw no reason earlier in the thread for people to call the OP a troll. Being misinformed or posting inaccurate information is one thing; calling someone a troll is not necessary, IMHO. It just makes drama escalate.

    I don't know if OP is a troll or not, but some of the early posts were consistent with things that trolls have said ("I'm not hungry on 600 calories, the diet pills take care of that," etc). I can understand why some people concluded that this thread wasn't legitimate.

    Jelly roll wants to talk about me being a troll when I say

    If you had read my post, you would have read that I wrote I had no idea if you were a troll or not. I don't have sufficient information to come to a conclusion about that. I suggest you re-read what I said and respond to that.
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