what to do? I just eat too much all the time :'(
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Larissa_NY wrote: »Okay, well, since no one seems to have considered asking the OP to clarify what she meant, let's start with some remedial English. From Webster's Dictionary online at:
drink
verb \ˈdriŋk\
: to take a liquid into your mouth and swallow it
: to drink alcohol
: to put (yourself) into a specified state by drinking alcohol
So no, drinking nothing but water does not mean eating nothing. We can see this as we go back to the dictionary and look up the meaning of the word "eat":
eat
verb \ˈēt\
ate \ˈāt, dial or British ˈet\ eat·en \ˈē-tən\ eat·ing
Definition of EAT
transitive verb
1
: to take in through the mouth as food : ingest, chew, and swallow in turn
2
a : to destroy, consume, or waste by or as if by eating <expenses ate up the profits> <gadgets that eat up too much space>
b : to bear the expense of : take a loss on <the team was forced to eat the rest of his contract>
The word "drinking" in no way implies inclusion of the word "eating." Drinking means drinking, it does not mean ingesting. Similarly, eating also means eating, as defined above; it is not inclusive of all acts of ingesting, which is the reason "eating and drinking" are separated as distinct concepts in the English language.
Words have meaning. You cannot simply assign any meaning to them you choose and expect to effectively communicate with other people. If someone uses a very common word that most of us learn by the age of two, and you misinterpret it, that is completely on you (and possibly your mother), and does not mean that the OP's suggestion was bad.
Many times we see advocation for water fasts, and while I understand the definition of the word drink, saying that drinking nothing but water changes your taste for sweet or salty food gives people reasonable reason to believe, when she said she drank nothing but water she was actually implying ingested.
If I was mistaken in her meaning I apologize , but I doubt I was.
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Larissa_NY wrote: »Okay, well, since no one seems to have considered asking the OP to clarify what she meant, let's start with some remedial English. From Webster's Dictionary online at:
drink
verb \ˈdriŋk\
: to take a liquid into your mouth and swallow it
: to drink alcohol
: to put (yourself) into a specified state by drinking alcohol
So no, drinking nothing but water does not mean eating nothing. We can see this as we go back to the dictionary and look up the meaning of the word "eat":
eat
verb \ˈēt\
ate \ˈāt, dial or British ˈet\ eat·en \ˈē-tən\ eat·ing
Definition of EAT
transitive verb
1
: to take in through the mouth as food : ingest, chew, and swallow in turn
2
a : to destroy, consume, or waste by or as if by eating <expenses ate up the profits> <gadgets that eat up too much space>
b : to bear the expense of : take a loss on <the team was forced to eat the rest of his contract>
The word "drinking" in no way implies inclusion of the word "eating." Drinking means drinking, it does not mean ingesting. Similarly, eating also means eating, as defined above; it is not inclusive of all acts of ingesting, which is the reason "eating and drinking" are separated as distinct concepts in the English language.
Words have meaning. You cannot simply assign any meaning to them you choose and expect to effectively communicate with other people. If someone uses a very common word that most of us learn by the age of two, and you misinterpret it, that is completely on you (and possibly your mother), and does not mean that the OP's suggestion was bad.
Many times we see advocation for water fasts, and while I understand the definition of the word drink, saying that drinking nothing but water changes your taste for sweet or salty food gives people reasonable reason to believe, when she said she drank nothing but water she was actually implying ingested.
If I was mistaken in her meaning I apologize , but I doubt I was. 0 -
never2bstopped wrote: »Larissa_NY wrote: »Okay, well, since no one seems to have considered asking the OP to clarify what she meant, let's start with some remedial English. From Webster's Dictionary online at:
drink
verb \ˈdriŋk\
: to take a liquid into your mouth and swallow it
: to drink alcohol
: to put (yourself) into a specified state by drinking alcohol
So no, drinking nothing but water does not mean eating nothing. We can see this as we go back to the dictionary and look up the meaning of the word "eat":
eat
verb \ˈēt\
ate \ˈāt, dial or British ˈet\ eat·en \ˈē-tən\ eat·ing
Definition of EAT
transitive verb
1
: to take in through the mouth as food : ingest, chew, and swallow in turn
2
a : to destroy, consume, or waste by or as if by eating <expenses ate up the profits> <gadgets that eat up too much space>
b : to bear the expense of : take a loss on <the team was forced to eat the rest of his contract>
The word "drinking" in no way implies inclusion of the word "eating." Drinking means drinking, it does not mean ingesting. Similarly, eating also means eating, as defined above; it is not inclusive of all acts of ingesting, which is the reason "eating and drinking" are separated as distinct concepts in the English language.
Words have meaning. You cannot simply assign any meaning to them you choose and expect to effectively communicate with other people. If someone uses a very common word that most of us learn by the age of two, and you misinterpret it, that is completely on you (and possibly your mother), and does not mean that the OP's suggestion was bad.
Many times we see advocation for water fasts, and while I understand the definition of the word drink, saying that drinking nothing but water changes your taste for sweet or salty food gives people reasonable reason to believe, when she said she drank nothing but water she was actually implying ingested.
If I was mistaken in her meaning I apologize , but I doubt I was.
She specifically used the word "drinking." What you drink can affect how food tastes; if this weren't true, there would be no reason to pair wine with food and we would all be able to eat chocolate directly after drinking lemonade. Maybe there are people in this world who can do that, but I'm certainly not one of them, and I'm willing to bet that I'm in the majority.
It may be that I'm wrong in this case; I guess anything is possible. But there's nothing wrong with drinking nothing but water and eating whatever, and to state outright that there is is irrational and misleading. Nobody needs Dr. Pepper to survive.
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It may sound weird, but when I first decided to get serious about losing weight I drank nothing but water for a week or so. It totally reprogrammed my taste buds. Some things that I used to crave were simply too sweet or salty for me to fully enjoy. That helped me to embrace and appreciate the flavor of more natural and whole foods. Your start "binging" on the good stuff and enter the Guilt-Free eating zone. Good luck - you can do it!
Do not do that. That is the absolute worse advice given out today. However, it was nice to be able to be the 5th flag.
Okay, no, seriously. Please specify what about this advice is bad and why. Bear in mind that the OP advocated drinking nothing but water, and specifically says that she was eating at the time. What is wrong with water, and can you produce empirical results to back up your assertion that DRINKING nothing but water while eating normally is bad and dangerous?
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If she meant only that she changed her drinking habits, why would she not come back and support her post? Instead she disappeared, I believe because she knew VLCD is not something that is supported on this site.Larissa_NY wrote: »never2bstopped wrote: »Larissa_NY wrote: »Okay, well, since no one seems to have considered asking the OP to clarify what she meant, let's start with some remedial English. From Webster's Dictionary online at:
drink
verb \ˈdriŋk\
: to take a liquid into your mouth and swallow it
: to drink alcohol
: to put (yourself) into a specified state by drinking alcohol
So no, drinking nothing but water does not mean eating nothing. We can see this as we go back to the dictionary and look up the meaning of the word "eat":
eat
verb \ˈēt\
ate \ˈāt, dial or British ˈet\ eat·en \ˈē-tən\ eat·ing
Definition of EAT
transitive verb
1
: to take in through the mouth as food : ingest, chew, and swallow in turn
2
a : to destroy, consume, or waste by or as if by eating <expenses ate up the profits> <gadgets that eat up too much space>
b : to bear the expense of : take a loss on <the team was forced to eat the rest of his contract>
The word "drinking" in no way implies inclusion of the word "eating." Drinking means drinking, it does not mean ingesting. Similarly, eating also means eating, as defined above; it is not inclusive of all acts of ingesting, which is the reason "eating and drinking" are separated as distinct concepts in the English language.
Words have meaning. You cannot simply assign any meaning to them you choose and expect to effectively communicate with other people. If someone uses a very common word that most of us learn by the age of two, and you misinterpret it, that is completely on you (and possibly your mother), and does not mean that the OP's suggestion was bad.
Many times we see advocation for water fasts, and while I understand the definition of the word drink, saying that drinking nothing but water changes your taste for sweet or salty food gives people reasonable reason to believe, when she said she drank nothing but water she was actually implying ingested.
If I was mistaken in her meaning I apologize , but I doubt I was.
She specifically used the word "drinking." What you drink can affect how food tastes; if this weren't true, there would be no reason to pair wine with food and we would all be able to eat chocolate directly after drinking lemonade. Maybe there are people in this world who can do that, but I'm certainly not one of them, and I'm willing to bet that I'm in the majority.
I think it's sweet you believe the important word in that post was drink when in truth it was the word only that caught my attention.0 -
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never2bstopped wrote: »
If she meant only that she changed her drinking habits, why would she not come back and support her post? Instead she disappeared, I believe because she knew VLCD is not something that is supported on this site.Larissa_NY wrote: »never2bstopped wrote: »Larissa_NY wrote: »Okay, well, since no one seems to have considered asking the OP to clarify what she meant, let's start with some remedial English. From Webster's Dictionary online at:
drink
verb \ˈdriŋk\
: to take a liquid into your mouth and swallow it
: to drink alcohol
: to put (yourself) into a specified state by drinking alcohol
So no, drinking nothing but water does not mean eating nothing. We can see this as we go back to the dictionary and look up the meaning of the word "eat":
eat
verb \ˈēt\
ate \ˈāt, dial or British ˈet\ eat·en \ˈē-tən\ eat·ing
Definition of EAT
transitive verb
1
: to take in through the mouth as food : ingest, chew, and swallow in turn
2
a : to destroy, consume, or waste by or as if by eating <expenses ate up the profits> <gadgets that eat up too much space>
b : to bear the expense of : take a loss on <the team was forced to eat the rest of his contract>
The word "drinking" in no way implies inclusion of the word "eating." Drinking means drinking, it does not mean ingesting. Similarly, eating also means eating, as defined above; it is not inclusive of all acts of ingesting, which is the reason "eating and drinking" are separated as distinct concepts in the English language.
Words have meaning. You cannot simply assign any meaning to them you choose and expect to effectively communicate with other people. If someone uses a very common word that most of us learn by the age of two, and you misinterpret it, that is completely on you (and possibly your mother), and does not mean that the OP's suggestion was bad.
Many times we see advocation for water fasts, and while I understand the definition of the word drink, saying that drinking nothing but water changes your taste for sweet or salty food gives people reasonable reason to believe, when she said she drank nothing but water she was actually implying ingested.
If I was mistaken in her meaning I apologize , but I doubt I was.
She specifically used the word "drinking." What you drink can affect how food tastes; if this weren't true, there would be no reason to pair wine with food and we would all be able to eat chocolate directly after drinking lemonade. Maybe there are people in this world who can do that, but I'm certainly not one of them, and I'm willing to bet that I'm in the majority.
I think it's sweet you believe the important word in that post was drink when in truth it was the word only that caught my attention.
Really?
According to your avatar there, you have 292 posts on this site. Surely it has dawned on you by now that there's no convenient way to track every single thread you've posted in. Maaaaybe, I don't know, she didn't come back to the thread to "support" her post because she didn't think drinking water instead of soda was controversial and wasn't aware that it needed to be "supported"?
I'm not sure what your last sentence even means. Again, words have meaning, and so does syntax. I get that you're trying to be condescending to me, but in order for that to work you have to be able to get your meaning across.0 -
Unless the person that advocated drinking nothing but water comes back and says that she meant for liquids nothing but water while eating food then I will assume she meant a full water fast. It would not be the first or the last time someone came around here promoting that.Larissa_NY wrote: »It may sound weird, but when I first decided to get serious about losing weight I drank nothing but water for a week or so. It totally reprogrammed my taste buds. Some things that I used to crave were simply too sweet or salty for me to fully enjoy. That helped me to embrace and appreciate the flavor of more natural and whole foods. Your start "binging" on the good stuff and enter the Guilt-Free eating zone. Good luck - you can do it!
Do not do that. That is the absolute worse advice given out today. However, it was nice to be able to be the 5th flag.
Okay, no, seriously. Please specify what about this advice is bad and why. Bear in mind that the OP advocated drinking nothing but water, and specifically says that she was eating at the time. What is wrong with water, and can you produce empirical results to back up your assertions?
You cannot tell us what that member meant, you can only speculate just like I will. So for you to want to debate me on what that member meant is at best a complete waste of my time. Feel free to defend what that member was supposedly saying all you'd like.
LOL, okay, I give up. I cannot stay in a conversation where people LITERALLY DO NOT KNOW WHAT THE WORD "DRINK" MEANS OH MY GOD ARE YOU PEOPLE ALL BATSHIT INSANE.
For the record, I am interpreting her words exactly as she wrote them. I'm not the one reading "water fast" into them without a shred of evidence to support that interpretation. So you go ahead and think that your reading-in is totes as valid as my literal interpretation of her words.
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Larissa_NY wrote: »never2bstopped wrote: »
If she meant only that she changed her drinking habits, why would she not come back and support her post? Instead she disappeared, I believe because she knew VLCD is not something that is supported on this site.Larissa_NY wrote: »never2bstopped wrote: »Larissa_NY wrote: »Okay, well, since no one seems to have considered asking the OP to clarify what she meant, let's start with some remedial English. From Webster's Dictionary online at:
drink
verb \ˈdriŋk\
: to take a liquid into your mouth and swallow it
: to drink alcohol
: to put (yourself) into a specified state by drinking alcohol
So no, drinking nothing but water does not mean eating nothing. We can see this as we go back to the dictionary and look up the meaning of the word "eat":
eat
verb \ˈēt\
ate \ˈāt, dial or British ˈet\ eat·en \ˈē-tən\ eat·ing
Definition of EAT
transitive verb
1
: to take in through the mouth as food : ingest, chew, and swallow in turn
2
a : to destroy, consume, or waste by or as if by eating <expenses ate up the profits> <gadgets that eat up too much space>
b : to bear the expense of : take a loss on <the team was forced to eat the rest of his contract>
The word "drinking" in no way implies inclusion of the word "eating." Drinking means drinking, it does not mean ingesting. Similarly, eating also means eating, as defined above; it is not inclusive of all acts of ingesting, which is the reason "eating and drinking" are separated as distinct concepts in the English language.
Words have meaning. You cannot simply assign any meaning to them you choose and expect to effectively communicate with other people. If someone uses a very common word that most of us learn by the age of two, and you misinterpret it, that is completely on you (and possibly your mother), and does not mean that the OP's suggestion was bad.
Many times we see advocation for water fasts, and while I understand the definition of the word drink, saying that drinking nothing but water changes your taste for sweet or salty food gives people reasonable reason to believe, when she said she drank nothing but water she was actually implying ingested.
If I was mistaken in her meaning I apologize , but I doubt I was.
She specifically used the word "drinking." What you drink can affect how food tastes; if this weren't true, there would be no reason to pair wine with food and we would all be able to eat chocolate directly after drinking lemonade. Maybe there are people in this world who can do that, but I'm certainly not one of them, and I'm willing to bet that I'm in the majority.
I think it's sweet you believe the important word in that post was drink when in truth it was the word only that caught my attention.
Really?
According to your avatar there, you have 292 posts on this site. Surely it has dawned on you by now that there's no convenient way to track every single thread you've posted in. Maaaaybe, I don't know, she didn't come back to the thread to "support" her post because she didn't think drinking water instead of soda was controversial and wasn't aware that it needed to be "supported"?
I'm not sure what your last sentence even means. Again, words have meaning, and so does syntax. I get that you're trying to be condescending to me, but in order for that to work you have to be able to get your meaning across.
It is quite easy to tract threads you post in....
And there was no condescending, I truly believe it is sweet you think the post was just about changing what she drank for a week. It is nice to see people who take people at what they say and not the meaning they spin behind it. I wish I was still that innocent.0 -
Well she needs to come back and clarify. As her post came across as she ingested nothing but water, like that's all she had, no food?? (0
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Closet eating is still eating. We all sin, so make a good confession, decide not to repeat that experience. Photos can be cruel, but they ARE truthful. Put a shot of nice,fat, you. Smiling or not, YOU know just how happy the smile really is.So forgive yourself and move on. Weigh or measure food. Estimating tends to be increasingally inaccurate. Use a scale or a measuring cup. The right kind of food measurements- HONEST NUMBERS- false numbers may look better, but you only hurt yourself. Tomorrow you'll do better.
When holidays are here it's much easier to fall, try giving yourself permission to eat special event foods. Only on the Day. Moderation is the key. Half size cake pieces are usually plenty to cure the sweet tooth. More isn't needed. Eating a moderate amount of food then record all of the foods eaten.0 -
MusicalSharon52 wrote: »Closet eating is still eating. We all sin, so make a good confession, decide not to repeat that experience. Photos can be cruel, but they ARE truthful. Put a shot of nice,fat, you. Smiling or not, YOU know just how happy the smile really is.So forgive yourself and move on. Weigh or measure food. Estimating tends to be increasingally inaccurate. Use a scale or a measuring cup. The right kind of food measurements- HONEST NUMBERS- false numbers may look better, but you only hurt yourself. Tomorrow you'll do better.
When holidays are here it's much easier to fall, try giving yourself permission to eat special event foods. Only on the Day. Moderation is the key. Half size cake pieces are usually plenty to cure the sweet tooth. More isn't needed. Eating a moderate amount of food then record all of the foods eaten.
^^^^Yep!^^^^
I've had some ripper days in the past where my days were thousands of calories in the red! I really didn't want to log it all, oh the shame....
but I did log it and moved on!
Guess what, those odd days didn't make me gain weight because I got back on the horse the next day and behaved!!
A problem will arise when that one day of over eating turns into 2 days, then 3, then a week and so on. A day here and there isn't going to undo all of your hard work xx
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Usually I do plan what I am going to eat but today its passover and I can't eat anything that I'm used to, and that's what confused me.
I didn't really followed what I put in my (huge) mouth so I can't log it. Yet, next time I will. Ohhh!
Logging is Key.
So next time, pay attention to what is in the food, ask questions, and so on.
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angelgreathouse9 wrote: »STAY AWAY FROM ASPARTAME IT IS HORRIBLE FOR EVERYONE!!! GOOGLE THE SIDE EFFECTS.
No it's not. Just the interwebz is full of sheeple who believe the fearmongering.
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