Was I really sugar free?
midpath
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Today my log says I ate 22g sugar. The sugar came from mushrooms, green beans, carrots, cottage cheese, and two grams came from a protein bar but it was xylitol or something like that. I'm trying to go sugar free so did I actually succeed today? Fruit is different than regular sugar right? Btw I'm not low carbing it.
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You're not sugar free.
But you limited ADDED sugars.
I limit added sugars as well. I find it easier to follow my diet plan when I do.0 -
Does cottage cheese count as added sugars? I've been confused how dairy works with this. Is it possible to never eat any sugar? It's in like every vegetable.0
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As far as I know, it is not possible to NEVER eat any sugar. But I do limit it, myself, due to a medical condition. Green veggies have less (for the most part), root vegetables tend to have more. Fruit has a ton.0
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Honestly, there is generally no reason to worry that much about sugars. Even if you have a condition like diabetes, it's more about your carb balance than anything else. Just make sure you are eating lots of healthy, nutritious foods and keep the treats to reasonable portions. For me it's usually a couple times a week.0
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You had zero added sugar. Sugars in plain dairy, fruit and vegetables are never considered added sugar....the exception is if you buy flavored yogurt (peach, vanilla, honey, etc.), those do have added sugar. Xylitol is not actually a sugar. It is a sugar alcohol and does have carbs and calories, though less than sugar does.
When you read about recommendations on limiting sugar, they are usually referring specifically to added sugar.0 -
I'm going to sugar hell as I go way over everyday. I don't add sugar to anything. All mine comes from fruit, yogurt, milk and veggies0
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girlviernes wrote: »Honestly, there is generally no reason to worry that much about sugars. Even if you have a condition like diabetes, it's more about your carb balance than anything else. Just make sure you are eating lots of healthy, nutritious foods and keep the treats to reasonable portions. For me it's usually a couple times a week.
This. And reasonable portions will vary from person to person based on medical conditions and caloric expenditure needs. I can easily fit treats in daily but my maintenance is about 2400 calories and I do not have any metabolic conditions that require limiting carbs. Doesn't mean, however, that my treats are like 400 calories every day.0 -
I know that it's not necessary for me to take out added sugars but it's just not going to work unless I do. I don't understand how to moderate sugar. Its like I get on auto pilot scooping sugar from the canister into my mouth and a simple piece of bread or pasta can trigger it. I have tried and I simply can't do it. A bowl of cornflakes can send me into a deep sleep and when I wake up all I want is sugar. I can moderate everything else though. Idk this is the only option I've thought of to keep myself in my calorie range. Which is 1800 a day.0
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I know that it's not necessary for me to take out added sugars but it's just not going to work unless I do. I don't understand how to moderate sugar. Its like I get on auto pilot scooping sugar from the canister into my mouth and a simple piece of bread or pasta can trigger it. I have tried and I simply can't do it. A bowl of cornflakes can send me into a deep sleep and when I wake up all I want is sugar. I can moderate everything else though. Idk this is the only option I've thought of to keep myself in my calorie range. Which is 1800 a day.
You can, trust me, sugar does not control you. However, it may take time to figure out how to make it work for you. There is nothing inherently bad about not including added sugars in your diet, so if that works for you, go for it. Unfortunately, for a lot of people that just reinforces the idea that they can't control themselves with sugar and it can increase their difficulty with sugar in the long run.
I would suggest a few things:
1) Relax a little bit. The main thing right now is to keep tracking. Every day that you do that you are making progress.
2) You can take a break from added sugars, but after a couple of weeks consider purposefully having them in small quantities (e.g. having a piece of chocolate). This will allow you to see that you really can have them and reduce your fear of them.
3) The more you get some healthy fat, protein, and fiber (veggies, chia seeds, fruit) at each meal, and get regular exercise, you are setting yourself up physiologically to reduce sugar cravings.
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It was necessary for me to eliminate added sugar completely. I tried eating it in moderation MANY times. But that just triggered ridiculous cravings and eventually binges. Sugar or bread were the trigger every single time. I could eat almonds, cheese, meat, and everything else in moderation...the added sugars were the problem. I believe some people are just more sensitive to added sugar than others.I know that it's not necessary for me to take out added sugars but it's just not going to work unless I do. I don't understand how to moderate sugar. Its like I get on auto pilot scooping sugar from the canister into my mouth and a simple piece of bread or pasta can trigger it. I have tried and I simply can't do it. A bowl of cornflakes can send me into a deep sleep and when I wake up all I want is sugar. I can moderate everything else though. Idk this is the only option I've thought of to keep myself in my calorie range. Which is 1800 a day.
I went from obese to a healthy weight, and cutting sugar was a big part of that. And now I never get sugar cravings and can't even remember the last time I binged. You are doing the right thing for you. It gets easier very quickly, and soon eating that way will just be habit and effortless.0 -
I know that it's not necessary for me to take out added sugars but it's just not going to work unless I do. I don't understand how to moderate sugar. Its like I get on auto pilot scooping sugar from the canister into my mouth and a simple piece of bread or pasta can trigger it. I have tried and I simply can't do it. A bowl of cornflakes can send me into a deep sleep and when I wake up all I want is sugar. I can moderate everything else though. Idk this is the only option I've thought of to keep myself in my calorie range. Which is 1800 a day.
Have you seen a doctor about this? What you're experiencing could be behavioral, or you might have some kind of medical issue going on - the being tired after eating corn flakes made me wonder if perhaps your body isn't processing sugar properly. If you haven't been to a doctor and gotten checked out, it might be worth a trip.0 -
To answer your question, no, I don't believe it's possible to healthfully eat 0 sugar. Because as you see, sugar exists in produce and dairy and basically a lot of natural and healthy sources.
It is possible to eliminate refined sugar (processed) and that's what you did! Good work!0 -
I know that it's not necessary for me to take out added sugars but it's just not going to work unless I do. I don't understand how to moderate sugar. Its like I get on auto pilot scooping sugar from the canister into my mouth.
You need help with that, it's way beyond normal behaviour.
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I know that it's not necessary for me to take out added sugars but it's just not going to work unless I do. I don't understand how to moderate sugar. Its like I get on auto pilot scooping sugar from the canister into my mouth and a simple piece of bread or pasta can trigger it. I have tried and I simply can't do it. A bowl of cornflakes can send me into a deep sleep and when I wake up all I want is sugar. I can moderate everything else though. Idk this is the only option I've thought of to keep myself in my calorie range. Which is 1800 a day.
So if what you are eating (like dairy, fruit, and veggies or protein bars) doesn't have that particular effect on you, don't worry about it. Think in terms of limiting or avoiding FOODS that are triggers for you. Don't get wrapped up in the sugar thing.0 -
girlviernes wrote: »I know that it's not necessary for me to take out added sugars but it's just not going to work unless I do. I don't understand how to moderate sugar. Its like I get on auto pilot scooping sugar from the canister into my mouth and a simple piece of bread or pasta can trigger it. I have tried and I simply can't do it. A bowl of cornflakes can send me into a deep sleep and when I wake up all I want is sugar. I can moderate everything else though. Idk this is the only option I've thought of to keep myself in my calorie range. Which is 1800 a day.
You can, trust me, sugar does not control you. However, it may take time to figure out how to make it work for you. There is nothing inherently bad about not including added sugars in your diet, so if that works for you, go for it. Unfortunately, for a lot of people that just reinforces the idea that they can't control themselves with sugar and it can increase their difficulty with sugar in the long run.
I would suggest a few things:
1) Relax a little bit. The main thing right now is to keep tracking. Every day that you do that you are making progress.
2) You can take a break from added sugars, but after a couple of weeks consider purposefully having them in small quantities (e.g. having a piece of chocolate). This will allow you to see that you really can have them and reduce your fear of them.
3) The more you get some healthy fat, protein, and fiber (veggies, chia seeds, fruit) at each meal, and get regular exercise, you are setting yourself up physiologically to reduce sugar cravings.
Pay attention to this, also. She knows what she's talking about.0 -
I know that it's not necessary for me to take out added sugars but it's just not going to work unless I do. I don't understand how to moderate sugar. Its like I get on auto pilot scooping sugar from the canister into my mouth and a simple piece of bread or pasta can trigger it. I have tried and I simply can't do it. A bowl of cornflakes can send me into a deep sleep and when I wake up all I want is sugar. I can moderate everything else though. Idk this is the only option I've thought of to keep myself in my calorie range. Which is 1800 a day.
Not sure why you feel the need to lie to everyone, as your meal today demonstrated you can moderate sugars. Fruit, vegetables, cheese all have sugars and you ate them in moderation.
If anyone else would like to point out exactly how added sucrose for example is different from naturally occurring sucrose, i'd love to hear to hear it0 -
Op do you honestly eat sugar straight out of the jar, by the spoonful?0
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Yes I have done that before lol. And after I ate that last protein bar I realized the last ingredient on the list was sucralose. Believe me I was a little upset at myself for not seeing it but at least it was like 1g and it was bedtime. I didn't see it there before I ate it. But I mean I can't explain it Acg67 an I think it's very rude to accuse me of lying. I can't explain why I can eat a piece of cheese and be normal about it while an Oreo turns me into a crazy person. But that doesn't mean I'm lying.0
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Yes I have done that before lol. And after I ate that last protein bar I realized the last ingredient on the list was sucralose. Believe me I was a little upset at myself for not seeing it but at least it was like 1g and it was bedtime. I didn't see it there before I ate it. But I mean I can't explain it Acg67 an I think it's very rude to accuse me of lying. I can't explain why I can eat a piece of cheese and be normal about it while an Oreo turns me into a crazy person. But that doesn't mean I'm lying.
So ignorant then? Since you directly contradicted this by saying you ate lactose (sugar!) vegetables (sugar!) in moderation.
"I don't understand how to moderate sugar. Its like I get on auto pilot scooping sugar from the canister into my mouth and a simple piece of bread or pasta can trigger it. I have tried and I simply can't do it."0 -
I think you must have problems with added sugar and dessert-type sweet things. The sugars in vegetables (and even fruits) may be fine for you. I wouldn't try to be "sugar free," but instead would moderate your added sugar (as others have said). I also agree that figuring out what your trigger foods are and staying away from those might be a good step to take. You may be able to do this simply by going through your diary or remembering about your latest or worst binges.0
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Yes I have done that before lol. And after I ate that last protein bar I realized the last ingredient on the list was sucralose. Believe me I was a little upset at myself for not seeing it but at least it was like 1g and it was bedtime. I didn't see it there before I ate it. But I mean I can't explain it Acg67 an I think it's very rude to accuse me of lying. I can't explain why I can eat a piece of cheese and be normal about it while an Oreo turns me into a crazy person. But that doesn't mean I'm lying.
So ignorant then? Since you directly contradicted this by saying you ate lactose (sugar!) vegetables (sugar!) in moderation.
"I don't understand how to moderate sugar. Its like I get on auto pilot scooping sugar from the canister into my mouth and a simple piece of bread or pasta can trigger it. I have tried and I simply can't do it."
Why are you being so rude? It just seems really unnecessary. I know that dairy and vegetables have sugar but they're not commonly referred to as sugar foods. Its like you don't normally call beans a sodium food even though there is some in them. I misspoke and I didn't realize that we needed to split hairs here. Do you want a formal apology for not using specific terminology in your presence?0 -
You may just have to make sure when you have sugar you have a moderate amount of fiber or fats. Both fiber and fats lower the overall GI of a food.0
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Yes I have done that before lol. And after I ate that last protein bar I realized the last ingredient on the list was sucralose. Believe me I was a little upset at myself for not seeing it but at least it was like 1g and it was bedtime. I didn't see it there before I ate it. But I mean I can't explain it Acg67 an I think it's very rude to accuse me of lying. I can't explain why I can eat a piece of cheese and be normal about it while an Oreo turns me into a crazy person. But that doesn't mean I'm lying.
So ignorant then? Since you directly contradicted this by saying you ate lactose (sugar!) vegetables (sugar!) in moderation.
"I don't understand how to moderate sugar. Its like I get on auto pilot scooping sugar from the canister into my mouth and a simple piece of bread or pasta can trigger it. I have tried and I simply can't do it."
Why are you being so rude? It just seems really unnecessary. I know that dairy and vegetables have sugar but they're not commonly referred to as sugar foods. Its like you don't normally call beans a sodium food even though there is some in them. I misspoke and I didn't realize that we needed to split hairs here. Do you want a formal apology for not using specific terminology in your presence?
You're missing the point. You stated that you cannot eat sugar in moderation; it turns you into a crazy person. He was simply pointing out the inconsistency that you clearly did eat sugar, without becoming a crazy person.0 -
After reading some posts, i got the feeling that you are totally mixing up two things .. carbs as a normal nutrient and sugars, referred to as saccharose, the manufactured one, as well as all the others. Fruits have more simple carbs like glucose and fructose , but veggies have more starchy and combined carbs.. so especially when eating veggies you dont have to worry at all. With fruits it can depend on several factors, as different metabolic types react in a different way to nutrients, one tolerate carbs in general good, others not. Another thing can be for example fructose intolerance. Generally said as long as you are eating clean and natural foods and cut the processed ones you are more than fine.. and you should eat lots of fruits and even more veggies. It is important to listen to your body after eating foods, being active regulates your hormones and metabolism.. so if you are healthy from the beginning on, you dont have to think much, all the other things, like when having any diseases, it can be discussed much longer. But healthy foods are good for everyone so go on with fruits and veggies and dont believe all those magazines out there
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jennifer_417 wrote: »Yes I have done that before lol. And after I ate that last protein bar I realized the last ingredient on the list was sucralose. Believe me I was a little upset at myself for not seeing it but at least it was like 1g and it was bedtime. I didn't see it there before I ate it. But I mean I can't explain it Acg67 an I think it's very rude to accuse me of lying. I can't explain why I can eat a piece of cheese and be normal about it while an Oreo turns me into a crazy person. But that doesn't mean I'm lying.
So ignorant then? Since you directly contradicted this by saying you ate lactose (sugar!) vegetables (sugar!) in moderation.
"I don't understand how to moderate sugar. Its like I get on auto pilot scooping sugar from the canister into my mouth and a simple piece of bread or pasta can trigger it. I have tried and I simply can't do it."
Why are you being so rude? It just seems really unnecessary. I know that dairy and vegetables have sugar but they're not commonly referred to as sugar foods. Its like you don't normally call beans a sodium food even though there is some in them. I misspoke and I didn't realize that we needed to split hairs here. Do you want a formal apology for not using specific terminology in your presence?
I think what he's trying to tell you is that this might not be a physical problem but more of a mental issue.
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christinev297 wrote: »Op do you honestly eat sugar straight out of the jar, by the spoonful?
I used to do that all the time as a kid.
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jennifer_417 wrote: »Yes I have done that before lol. And after I ate that last protein bar I realized the last ingredient on the list was sucralose. Believe me I was a little upset at myself for not seeing it but at least it was like 1g and it was bedtime. I didn't see it there before I ate it. But I mean I can't explain it Acg67 an I think it's very rude to accuse me of lying. I can't explain why I can eat a piece of cheese and be normal about it while an Oreo turns me into a crazy person. But that doesn't mean I'm lying.
So ignorant then? Since you directly contradicted this by saying you ate lactose (sugar!) vegetables (sugar!) in moderation.
"I don't understand how to moderate sugar. Its like I get on auto pilot scooping sugar from the canister into my mouth and a simple piece of bread or pasta can trigger it. I have tried and I simply can't do it."
Why are you being so rude? It just seems really unnecessary. I know that dairy and vegetables have sugar but they're not commonly referred to as sugar foods. Its like you don't normally call beans a sodium food even though there is some in them. I misspoke and I didn't realize that we needed to split hairs here. Do you want a formal apology for not using specific terminology in your presence?
I think what he's trying to tell you is that this might not be a physical problem but more of a mental issue.
Agreed.
Edited because spelling is hard.
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Agreed.
Edited because spelling is hard.
I reckon I edit 90% of my posts because of spelling errors, or completely missed words. I think quicker than I type!! And i hate, hate simple spelling errors. I should proof read things better before posting!! Plus my phone doesn't have a "preview" option.
As for the OP, I in no way think she's lying. Possibly just confused on where the actual problem lies. She has to figure out exactly which foods trigger these reactions, and slowly move forward from there.
Good luck OP, I'm sure you'll get it sorted :flowerforyou:
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christinev297 wrote: »
Agreed.
Edited because spelling is hard.
I reckon I edit 90% of my posts because of spelling errors, or completely missed words. I think quicker than I type!! And i hate, hate simple spelling errors. I should proof read things better before posting!! Plus my phone doesn't have a "preview" option.
As for the OP, I in no way think she's lying. Possibly just confused on where the actual problem lies. She has to figure out exactly which foods trigger these reactions, and slowly move forward from there.
Good luck OP, I'm sure you'll get it sorted :flowerforyou:
I'm a grammar Nazi but I still haven't figured out how to edit my posts lol
And thanks I appreciate it. You'd think something so essential like eating would be easy and natural for everyone.0 -
I kind of see where midpath is coming from, but I don't think it's 100% physical as it is psychological. I can eat an apple for my AM snack and a banana for my PM snack (both about 14 gr of natural sugar) and I'll be OK.
Give me a donut, and it's game over. I'll eat one, then another, then another and so on, and after I'm done, I'll dig through my cupboards for more sugary stuff. It's like this insatiable craving that wont go away. And I'll be in like a sugary coma for days and crave it over and over.
I think every person has a weak spot for a certain kind of food, guess theirs is added sugar.0
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