Going Organic: Results
08robyngreen
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Has your family made the switch to eat only Organic (Non-GMO) foods. What have the results been like? Any noticeable changes from switching your diet?
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I tried to go organic a few years ago and the only thing that I noticed was that my grocery bill became significantly larger. Many foods became too expensive to be anything but occasional treats and I didn't feel like it was benefiting my health to limit my fruit and vegetable consumption so dramatically.
I am also not convinced that there is any evidence that going all organic makes a difference to health.0 -
No because unnecessary.
And @janejellyroll we sometimes buy oranges labeled organic and the only benefit I've noticed is they tend to taste better. But that's solely because they are small(er). When I make sure to buy non-organic but still small-sized oranges (or apples) they also tend to taste better. Same with tomatoes.
Still not going to buy organic.0 -
Definitely makes your wallet lighter.0
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I eat organic whenever possible (fiscally and practivcally). IMO organic tomatoes and most fruits taste better. The meat and chicken (the only thing I only eat organic, and the reason I rarely eat out) tastes WAY better and I have less trouble digesting it. Health wise? I can't say I have noticed a difference that is attributable to eating organic and not just general overall better health choices.0
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So as far as you could tell; no improvement in digestion, decreases in seasonal allergies, becoming sick less often, etc..?0
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As I said, I definitely noticed better digestion of the meat. Way better. With the veggies? No, not especially. Allergy reduction? None at all.
I have recently had TREMENDOUS success with allergy reduction through eating moringa seeds. They're the only thing that works for me other than a pill. Unfortunately they're extremely hard to get in the US, mine come from family in Jamaica who send a huge bag full to us periodically.0 -
I do try to get my apples organic. I can taste a difference in them and don't know if it's the pesticides or waxing...I hate that some produce gets waxed.
Other than that, nope0 -
you should look into the dirty dozen (foods you should always try and buy organic) and the clean 15 (foods that you never have to buy organic.
also, look into what words like organic, free range, and all natural mean in the grocery store and even the pharmacy. sometimes they're just buzz words to get you to pay 15% more.0 -
This is hard to say because over the short term I myself dont see a difference, if any, btwn the two. I will say that over the short term for my personally I like the taste of organic foods over non-organic. As for the long term... that I can not answer. Over the course of say 10, 15, 20 years, is one better then the other? Who knows.0
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I was on an organic kick for about a year. Spent alot of money that year. I still buy organic when my favoritr farmers market opens in spring but its more to support local than anything. Some food does taste better when organic. But no noticable health benifits im afraid0
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As physicist Neil Degrasse Tyson once pointed out, everything is GMO. So if you use a strict definition of organic and GMO, then you would starve if you were to truly eat organic.
What is sold as organic is a different story. It's expensive and not as readily available (especially in rural areas like where I live). If these barriers did not exist, then I would likely eat more organic foods. Not for any particular health reason, except I don't like the idea of eating foods that have been drenched with Roundup.
It's the same reason I rarely eat hamburger with pink slime in it - I just frankly don't like the idea of my meat being sprayed with ammonia (the same ingredient in glass cleaner Windex) during processing. Is it unsafe? I don't know... it's probably safe enough... I just don't like the thought of eating it. So when I cook hamburger at home, I buy the stuff that doesn't have pink slime in it. But then again, I eat hamburger much less often than I eat fruits and vegetables. So the extra cost is not as big of a deal when I rarely buy the stuff.0 -
No because unnecessary.
And @janejellyroll we sometimes buy oranges labeled organic and the only benefit I've noticed is they tend to taste better. But that's solely because they are small(er). When I make sure to buy non-organic but still small-sized oranges (or apples) they also tend to taste better. Same with tomatoes.
Still not going to buy organic.
I have had some organic berries that tasted much better and I wasn't sure why. Now that you mention it, I think it was because they were smaller than the mega-berries that I typically buy. Awesome observation.0 -
Capt_Apollo wrote: »you should look into the dirty dozen (foods you should always try and buy organic) and the clean 15 (foods that you never have to buy organic.
also, look into what words like organic, free range, and all natural mean in the grocery store and even the pharmacy. sometimes they're just buzz words to get you to pay 15% more.
Thank you I have actually looked at both. We actually look more for the Non-GMO labels than we look for organic, but I believe most if not all foods at Whole Foods Market is organic. We made a switch to organic non-gmo due to a study that resulted in increased kidney damage, inflammation, digestion issues, and cancer rates in animals fed GMOs. I know there are people that have extreme views for or against Organic non GMO and I thought maybe some people on Myfitnesspal would have some insight as too why they tried going organic and why they ultimately switched back aside from money issues.0 -
I get some organic fruits and vegetables at our local farmers market, but that's because I want to support them, not because I believe it's any better nutritionally than non organic.
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midwesterner85 wrote: »As physicist Neil Degrasse Tyson once pointed out, everything is GMO. So if you use a strict definition of organic and GMO, then you would starve if you were to truly eat organic.
What is sold as organic is a different story. It's expensive and not as readily available (especially in rural areas like where I live). If these barriers did not exist, then I would likely eat more organic foods. Not for any particular health reason, except I don't like the idea of eating foods that have been drenched with Roundup.
It's the same reason I rarely eat hamburger with pink slime in it - I just frankly don't like the idea of my meat being sprayed with ammonia (the same ingredient in glass cleaner Windex) during processing. Is it unsafe? I don't know... it's probably safe enough... I just don't like the thought of eating it. So when I cook hamburger at home, I buy the stuff that doesn't have pink slime in it. But then again, I eat hamburger much less often than I eat fruits and vegetables. So the extra cost is not as big of a deal when I rarely buy the stuff.
My thoughts exactly, I don't like the idea of eating food that is "drenched in round up" or "meat being strayed with ammonia". We also have the problem of being limited to where we can buy organic foods aside from our local farms. But while our local farms are selling produce we typically have already grown the same foods. We plan on starting up a small farm just for our food but large quantities of land are hard to come by where we are at and unfortunately we only have room for the 6 chickens that we already have.0 -
08robyngreen wrote: »Capt_Apollo wrote: »you should look into the dirty dozen (foods you should always try and buy organic) and the clean 15 (foods that you never have to buy organic.
also, look into what words like organic, free range, and all natural mean in the grocery store and even the pharmacy. sometimes they're just buzz words to get you to pay 15% more.
Thank you I have actually looked at both. We actually look more for the Non-GMO labels than we look for organic, but I believe most if not all foods at Whole Foods Market is organic. We made a switch to organic non-gmo due to a study that resulted in increased kidney damage, inflammation, digestion issues, and cancer rates in animals fed GMOs. I know there are people that have extreme views for or against Organic non GMO and I thought maybe some people on Myfitnesspal would have some insight as too why they tried going organic and why they ultimately switched back aside from money issues.
Which study are you referring to?0 -
08robyngreen wrote: »Capt_Apollo wrote: »you should look into the dirty dozen (foods you should always try and buy organic) and the clean 15 (foods that you never have to buy organic.
also, look into what words like organic, free range, and all natural mean in the grocery store and even the pharmacy. sometimes they're just buzz words to get you to pay 15% more.
Thank you I have actually looked at both. We actually look more for the Non-GMO labels than we look for organic, but I believe most if not all foods at Whole Foods Market is organic. We made a switch to organic non-gmo due to a study that resulted in increased kidney damage, inflammation, digestion issues, and cancer rates in animals fed GMOs. I know there are people that have extreme views for or against Organic non GMO and I thought maybe some people on Myfitnesspal would have some insight as too why they tried going organic and why they ultimately switched back aside from money issues.midwesterner85 wrote: »As physicist Neil Degrasse Tyson once pointed out, everything is GMO. So if you use a strict definition of organic and GMO, then you would starve if you were to truly eat organic.
agreed on both counts.
are we having more and more cancer issues because of the food we put in our body, or is it because we all are driving more and more (producing and being exposed to toxic air) as well as having tiny little EMF producing computers in our pockets (near our organs) as well as the newer and better medical technology that can spot cancers way better than 50 years ago?
it's no one thing, in my opinion. going organic can help you feel healthier, but it's just one brick in the wall. from what i've seen, it's a lot of scare tactics and placebo effects. GMOs have there place. people complain about world hunger, increased price in foods, etc. well, foods are going to be expensive when a sudden cold snap in May kills off entire crops. people will go hungry if their food doesn't produce better natural insect repellants....0 -
Going organic is a great thing to do for environmental reasons and to support better farming practices which is why I whole heartily support it, but as others have pointed out there is no evidence for it helping overall health0
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Capt_Apollo wrote: »
agreed on both counts.
are we having more and more cancer issues because of the food we put in our body, or is it because we all are driving more and more (producing and being exposed to toxic air) as well as having tiny little EMF producing computers in our pockets (near our organs) as well as the newer and better medical technology that can spot cancers way better than 50 years ago?
it's no one thing, in my opinion. going organic can help you feel healthier, but it's just one brick in the wall. from what i've seen, it's a lot of scare tactics and placebo effects. GMOs have there place. people complain about world hunger, increased price in foods, etc. well, foods are going to be expensive when a sudden cold snap in May kills off entire crops. people will go hungry if their food doesn't produce better natural insect repellants....
Agreed with all of this. I'll eat as organic as I can within reason, mainly because I think it tastes better, but I don't really care about GMOs (so silly). The best we can all do is try to live a generally healthier lifestyle. Eating organic is just a tiny part of that.0 -
janejellyroll wrote: »08robyngreen wrote: »Capt_Apollo wrote: »you should look into the dirty dozen (foods you should always try and buy organic) and the clean 15 (foods that you never have to buy organic.
also, look into what words like organic, free range, and all natural mean in the grocery store and even the pharmacy. sometimes they're just buzz words to get you to pay 15% more.
Thank you I have actually looked at both. We actually look more for the Non-GMO labels than we look for organic, but I believe most if not all foods at Whole Foods Market is organic. We made a switch to organic non-gmo due to a study that resulted in increased kidney damage, inflammation, digestion issues, and cancer rates in animals fed GMOs. I know there are people that have extreme views for or against Organic non GMO and I thought maybe some people on Myfitnesspal would have some insight as too why they tried going organic and why they ultimately switched back aside from money issues.
Which study are you referring to?
There was a study conducted by Gilles-Eric Seralini of the University of Caen, it was the first long term study that I could find on the effects of GMOs. If you know of any long term studies related to GMO's (not just organic) please list them. I could only find short term studies that prove that GMO's have no negative side effects. Most of the study results on GMO's were never posted.0 -
I personally try to eat as much organic as I can afford or get from local "beyond organic" farms that have just not been able to afford the organic certification but they are just as good if not holding themselves to a higher standard. I don't think one should do this and expect any major results physically, although longterm you would reduce your exposure to toxins so I would hope there would be a positive change in your health. For me this is more of a sustainability/protect the environment/help local farmers issue. One thing you should definately do, though, is switch to grass fed/finished and pastured meats and wild caught seafood as well as raw full fat dairy. You absolutely will feel better eating these foods as the omega 3 to 6 ratio is correct for our bodies to handle and you will get crucial fat solutable vitamin A, D, K2, etc in thier most bioavailable forms. It is incorrect that plant sources of many vitamins are just as good because our body has to convert them to the most bioavailable form (like flax is never going to be as good as eating wild caught fish for omega 3). Our bodies are not good at doing this conversion and are only equipted to do it as a backup when the best source is not available. You are best spending your money on quality meat and fish.0
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Capt_Apollo wrote: »you should look into the dirty dozen (foods you should always try and buy organic) and the clean 15 (foods that you never have to buy organic.
http://vitals.lifehacker.com/why-you-shouldnt-buy-organic-based-on-the-dirty-dozen-1689190822
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KombuchaCat wrote: »I personally try to eat as much organic as I can afford or get from local "beyond organic" farms that have just not been able to afford the organic certification but they are just as good if not holding themselves to a higher standard. I don't think one should do this and expect any major results physically, although longterm you would reduce your exposure to toxins so I would hope there would be a positive change in your health. For me this is more of a sustainability/protect the environment/help local farmers issue. One thing you should definately do, though, is switch to grass fed/finished and pastured meats and wild caught seafood as well as raw full fat dairy. You absolutely will feel better eating these foods as the omega 3 to 6 ratio is correct for our bodies to handle and you will get crucial fat solutable vitamin A, D, K2, etc in thier most bioavailable forms. It is incorrect that plant sources of many vitamins are just as good because our body has to convert them to the most bioavailable form (like flax is never going to be as good as eating wild caught fish for omega 3). Our bodies are not good at doing this conversion and are only equipted to do it as a backup when the best source is not available. You are best spending your money on quality meat and fish.
Thank you for the suggestions, we have recently made the switch to grass fed/hormone free meats; however, we have not looked for raw unpasteurized dairy yet. We want to look into it more due to our children's pediatrician not recommending unpasteurized dairy.0 -
loganrandy69 wrote: »Capt_Apollo wrote: »you should look into the dirty dozen (foods you should always try and buy organic) and the clean 15 (foods that you never have to buy organic.
http://vitals.lifehacker.com/why-you-shouldnt-buy-organic-based-on-the-dirty-dozen-1689190822
good info. i had forgotten that organic farms do allow for pesticides. but honestly, i never knew about that rating system.
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08robyngreen wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »08robyngreen wrote: »Capt_Apollo wrote: »you should look into the dirty dozen (foods you should always try and buy organic) and the clean 15 (foods that you never have to buy organic.
also, look into what words like organic, free range, and all natural mean in the grocery store and even the pharmacy. sometimes they're just buzz words to get you to pay 15% more.
Thank you I have actually looked at both. We actually look more for the Non-GMO labels than we look for organic, but I believe most if not all foods at Whole Foods Market is organic. We made a switch to organic non-gmo due to a study that resulted in increased kidney damage, inflammation, digestion issues, and cancer rates in animals fed GMOs. I know there are people that have extreme views for or against Organic non GMO and I thought maybe some people on Myfitnesspal would have some insight as too why they tried going organic and why they ultimately switched back aside from money issues.
Which study are you referring to?
There was a study conducted by Gilles-Eric Seralini of the University of Caen, it was the first long term study that I could find on the effects of GMOs. If you know of any long term studies related to GMO's (not just organic) please list them. I could only find short term studies that prove that GMO's have no negative side effects. Most of the study results on GMO's were never posted.
Are you talking about this, now retracted, study? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Séralini_affair0 -
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08robyngreen wrote: »Has your family made the switch to eat only Organic (Non-GMO) foods.
GMO can be organic. Are you talking one, the other, or both?
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janejellyroll wrote: »08robyngreen wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »08robyngreen wrote: »Capt_Apollo wrote: »you should look into the dirty dozen (foods you should always try and buy organic) and the clean 15 (foods that you never have to buy organic.
also, look into what words like organic, free range, and all natural mean in the grocery store and even the pharmacy. sometimes they're just buzz words to get you to pay 15% more.
Thank you I have actually looked at both. We actually look more for the Non-GMO labels than we look for organic, but I believe most if not all foods at Whole Foods Market is organic. We made a switch to organic non-gmo due to a study that resulted in increased kidney damage, inflammation, digestion issues, and cancer rates in animals fed GMOs. I know there are people that have extreme views for or against Organic non GMO and I thought maybe some people on Myfitnesspal would have some insight as too why they tried going organic and why they ultimately switched back aside from money issues.
Which study are you referring to?
There was a study conducted by Gilles-Eric Seralini of the University of Caen, it was the first long term study that I could find on the effects of GMOs. If you know of any long term studies related to GMO's (not just organic) please list them. I could only find short term studies that prove that GMO's have no negative side effects. Most of the study results on GMO's were never posted.
Are you talking about this, now retracted, study? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Séralini_affair
The study I researched was not on Wikipedia although it may be referring to the some study. I don't consider Wikipedia to be a valid source of information. Although I will say the study was called "controversial" and there is about a 50 50 view on whether the study is valid similar to most studies that involve any data on GMOs.
Either way this is not a debate for me, I just wanted to hear others opinion on whether they experienced any health benefits from eating organic non GMO. Do you have any benefits from switching to organic that you can speak of? Or reasons why you switched back to Non organic aside from money related reasons?0 -
08robyngreen wrote: »Has your family made the switch to eat only Organic (Non-GMO) foods.
GMO can be organic. Are you talking one, the other, or both?
Non-GMO/Organic. I look for food labeled Non-GMO, I try to shop in the organic section because there is a lot more food labeled non-GMO. Basically I avoid foods that contain added hormones, pesticides, and herbicides.0
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