Is it a journey, a lifestyle change, or just using common sense?
atypicalsmith
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A journey sounds very cumbersome, as does a lifestyle change. I know someone who dips her French fries in mayonnaise and can't figure out why she is overweight. My theory is that everyone knows why they are overweight but can't own up to it. Including ME.
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Well a lot of people do know how they gained the weight and why they are overweight but that doesn't mean that it isn't a lifestyle change to lose the weight. They still have to start making different choices on a daily basis and make the weight loss something that is sustainable.0
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A habit
But to make the change a huge effort
It's a commitment to me in 20 years time0 -
I think it's all of the above really.
I can only speak from my experience of having to lose a lot (around 50% of my start body weight), but to lose weight successfully, you have to want to do it. Like really want to. The rest then follows. Some people just aren't at that stage yet no matter how much they complain about being overweight.0 -
I think it's all of the above really.
I can only speak from my experience of having to lose a lot (around 50% of my start body weight), but to lose weight successfully, you have to want to do it. Like really want to. The rest then follows. Some people just aren't at that stage yet no matter how much they complain about being overweight.
You hit the nail right on the head!0 -
In my opinion its a combination of all three. Well, for some people.
For me it's not a journey anymore. It's just part of everyday life. Like taking a shower every day. I don't think twice about it anymore.0 -
I mean, I never required any motivation to lose my weight or stay on track. My success is based on habits.0
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It really depends on your starting point, doesn't it?
When I was 280lbs I used to dip my chips in tartar sauce and ketchup--both at the same time-- during my once, or twice, a week all-you-can-eat fish and chips dinners!
Everyone knows that we are overweight because we've been putting in more calories than we've been putting out! Sure. But that's been going on for years. How do we change it?
The why's and how's and the changes to make, I think those are very much a process, a journey towards a lifestyle change : - )
New habits and outlooks have to be developed. New coping mechanisms have to be learned. Family, friends, relationships sometimes need to change. Health needs to become a priority.
Would "dieting" by not eating chips with mayo have made a difference if I had continued going for AYCE fish and chips and not even walking 500 steps on several days each month?0 -
It's none of them it's learning to live rather than aimlessly passing your time on this planet0
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I think it's all of the above really.
I can only speak from my experience of having to lose a lot (around 50% of my start body weight), but to lose weight successfully, you have to want to do it. Like really want to. The rest then follows. Some people just aren't at that stage yet no matter how much they complain about being overweight.
This is what rang true to me. I knew I was overweight for a long time, but it's only this recent attempt that I am really truly interested in doing something about it. You have to want to, and be ready to.0 -
atypicalsmith wrote: »
Change in lifestyle. Because like I said, it's become part of my everyday life, like brushing my teeth.0 -
atypicalsmith wrote: »A journey sounds very cumbersome, as does a lifestyle change. I know someone who dips her French fries in mayonnaise and can't figure out why she is overweight. My theory is that everyone knows why they are overweight but can't own up to it. Including ME.
Does it matter what you call it? Whatever works for you!
A lifestyle change implies it's going to last. A journey usually has an end point.
Nothing wrong with fries or mayonnaise, so long as you're not eating too many, and all the time! I have fish 'n' chips on the seafront occasionally, with ketchup. I had an ice cream the other day. I still lose weight.
Yes, you have to be motivated, and it has to come from you. No-one else can motivate you.0 -
atypicalsmith wrote: »
Change in lifestyle. Because like I said, it's become part of my everyday life, like brushing my teeth.
But you've been brushing your teeth (or at least I would hope) since you were a toddler. That's not a lifestyle change; it's just what you do every day.0 -
Calling it a journey implies that there is an end point. If you want to remain at a healthy weight and fit it is a lifestyle change that should last forever. Of course at the start you are more focused but as the years go by you gradually incorporate those changes into your daily routine and it becomes your life. For example, I used to eat the snacks we get at work ( cakes, chocs etc). The first time I tried to lose weight I cut third out and replaced them with fruit. Now, years later, I still never eat workplace food- it's just me. I don't really think about it, it's just who I am.0
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atypicalsmith wrote: »atypicalsmith wrote: »
Change in lifestyle. Because like I said, it's become part of my everyday life, like brushing my teeth.
But you've been brushing your teeth (or at least I would hope) since you were a toddler. That's not a lifestyle change; it's just what you do every day.
True - but I haven't always eaten the way I do now. I had to change my eating habits.
That habit change has just now become LIKE brushing my teeth after 3 years of doing it. I'm not going back to my old ways, (truthfully I can't even remember what they were...)
So yes, the habit change I made has stuck, and I'll probably continue doing it for the rest of my life.0 -
I think that although a lot of the time it is common sense there are other non rational things that come in to play. Most people know what they should or shouldn't do but still we make bad choices even though we know they are not good for us. Eating can often give us instant gratification and food is everywhere and readily available (for majority of the population). So it is very easy to turn to food for comfort even if the feeling is fleeting.
I have never really been overweight so I haven't found it as much of a struggle to lose a few kgs as others on mfp have experienced (my adult weight has fluctuated between 47 and 53kg). However I have a problem with impulse buying and spending small amounts of money on unnecessary things which add up really fast. In some ways I liken this to weight management. I know my triggers for spending, I know I need to set a budget and stick to it, I know what common tools can help me achieve my goal but yet I have not been successful in breaking this habit. I think a lot of people have their weaknesses (and strengths) and unless there is a really strong motivator internally to make that change then it won't happen. So in summary it is a journey to a new lifestyle and using common sense can help you get there if you are truly ready and want to make the change.0 -
it is a journey to a new lifestyle and using common sense can help you get there if you are truly ready and want to make the change.
I like this way of putting it.0 -
For me it's been 80% mindset, 20% calories and math. Everything fell into place after I figured that out, and it's still true now that I'm in maintenance. So, if I had to put a label this whole thing it would be weight loss/maintenance is a mind game that you have to win.
And fries and mayo are a lovely combination btw0 -
As a Lifestyle Coach, my passion to is help people on their journey to lifestyle change. I really enjoyed reading your comments and hearing about your perspective of how you view your journey, lifestyle change, transformation of whatever you choose to call it. Common sense is one I don't hear too often but deserves more thought. In today's overfed society, our culture does not have common sense when it comes to food, physical activity and even stress. It is hard enough to make good choices, but when the influences around you are against what you want to accomplish it is so hard to not fall victim to it. You almost have to get mad at it all. MFP is a great way to learn and think for yourself. Congratulations to all of you!0
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atypicalsmith wrote: »A journey sounds very cumbersome, as does a lifestyle change. I know someone who dips her French fries in mayonnaise and can't figure out why she is overweight. My theory is that everyone knows why they are overweight but can't own up to it. Including ME.
I think that's somewhat accurate but you get to call it whatever you want.
I thought I knew why I was fat and I made a concerted effort to exercise and eat healthy foods. Nope. Nada.
It wasn't till I started logging on MFP that I realized that it was the portions of the food hurting me!
I was eating carrots and hummus for a snack, but is eat 400kcal of it! So while reasons might seem obvious in retrospect it sometimes takes awhile to get there.0 -
If weight loss were common sense, then no one would be over weight.
Weight loss is called a journey to indicate it will take a while.
It's called a lifestyle change to indicate it works best with other lifestyle choices, such as increased physical activity. The term also refers to the fact that new eating habits after weight loss need to be formed, because if you return to pre weight loss eating, you will experience the same pre weight loss weight gain.
Initial weight loss is easy. The first 10% practically falls off. The next 10% walks away. It's after that things come to a crawl, those 100 hidden calories make a difference, and weighing your food and accurately tracking calories become important.
Common sense can't tell you how lunges will improve the over all function of your legs, or how fantastic your butt will look after doing squats. Common sense will not create a lifelong appreciation for new foods, new cooking methods, and new satiation levels. Don't forget, "common sense" created Dr
Oz.0 -
I think of what I'm doing right now as a slight course correction.
I've been slender, even underweight, most of my life. I've also been very, very active for much of my life.
However, in the past 4 years, I've been less active. I adjusted my diet to match my lack of activity, and it took me 4 years to put on 15 kg, so I was pretty close ... but just off a bit.
So ... just fixing the 15 kg and making a slight readjustment ... a dietary tweak ... a course correction.0 -
I don't understand the "journey" terminology at all.
I tend to think it's common sense, but making common sense (and the various things that make it easier--like having food on hand when you need it, making exercise a priority and being able to fit it in) actually easy to do requires adding some habits and dropping some others, which for me was part of revising my lifestyle somewhat.0 -
It's a journey learning to adapt to a new lifestyle of using common sense?0
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It is actually a series of little lifestyle changes guided by common sense.0
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While you are losing weight it is a journey....you lose weight you discover you can do more things, you reflect on success and whats getting your there, a lot of self introspection, it's a lifestyle change when the practices you've incorporated in your daily life to make those changes becomes habit....self reflection, learning,choices, activity every day almost to the point you don't even think about doing it anymore you just do it. When the thought of NOT doing it just seems silly.0
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The terminology is like Catholic vs Anglican thelogical debate. In the end, it's all the same thing.
I'm an atheist, so, I just call it diet and exercise.0 -
It's more than just common sense. It's common sense in that eating at a calorie deficit is a simple concept to understand. But as simple as it is to understand, how easy is it to implement?
Saying, "You can lose weight! It's just common sense!" is kind of insulting, implying that those who struggle with their weight are somehow too stupid to see how "easy" it is. Like I said, the concept is easy to get; implementing it is not so easy. It requires more than common sense. It requires a change in habits--some of them built over a lifetime. So I guess you could call that a "lifestyle change".
Whatever you call it, I wouldn't simplify it by saying that it's just common sense. There are so many facets to weight loss. Understanding the concept "just eat less" is only one of them.0 -
I don't like the word "journey" unless one is talking about a spiritual journey, or if it applies to someone who is seriously overweight or obese who is making major changes. For those people it is often a journey toward health and sometimes even self-discovery and identity as they become used to their new body size and shape (the same might apply for people recovering from ED who are restoring a healthy relationship with food). For those who just have 10-20 lbs. to lose or just want to reshape our bodies, calling weight loss a "journey" trivializes the experience of those who have experienced serious impact due to issues with food. I don't mind the term lifestyle change because even for those of us who don't have much to lose or are of normal weight, we are changing our lifestyle if we are choosing to watch both the quantity and content of what we eat. I would say it's more complex than just "common sense." CICO can be called "common sense," but an overall healthy diet is much more than just CICO.0
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