Type 2 diabetic trying to gain weight
chadluvsrue
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Any suggestions??? Need help
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Do you have any info about yourself?
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Sure I'm 6'4 and currently weigh 210. I was about 245. I seem to be stuck at 210 and not really able to add weight or muscle with my diet. Carbs are so limited now. I know I need to go way up on my protein but not sure how much or what else I can do. Thanks for responding!!!0
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Can your doctor refer you to a dietician?0
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Yes I have seen a dietician. She did not offer any advice on weight gain or building muscle. Thank you for asking0
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Are you treating with diet, pills, or insulin?
How are your BG's (what was your last A1C)?
When were you diagnosed?
Did you ever have an antibody test to rule out the possibility of type 1? (i.e. LADA or type 1.5 when diagnosed as an adult)
Do you see an endocrinologist?
What is your body fat % and skeletal muscle %?0 -
chadluvsrue wrote: »Yes I have seen a dietician. She did not offer any advice on weight gain or building muscle. Thank you for asking
Did you ask? Not being snarky, just interested. If you asked and he/she couldn't advise, I'd ask to see someone else.
Reason being, most people will shy away from advising you because of the medical condition. I wouldn't trust my health to randomers on the internet.
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At 6'4" and 210 lbs, you are already considered overweight. Why are you trying to gain weight? That's a terrible idea considering you are diabetic.0
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I am far from overweight. I'm trying to build muscle not gain fat, which is hardly a bad thing for anyone much less a diabetic0
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With diet and exercise I am no longer having to take insulin or pills to control my blood sugars. When diagnoses my a1c was 12. 4 months later it was 4.5.0
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I am not trying to get huge. I simply want to add lean muscle. I am well versed with gym or work out routines to accomplish this. However with diabetes in the mix I am struggling with a good diet to help me achieve a weight I am comfortable with.0
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I don't think you can replace carbs solely with protein as there is a risk of organ damage. I'm sure you can eat healthy fats that will not result in new fat stores. I recommend you consider beans, legumes, tree nuts such as almonds, walnuts, Pistachio nuts, and Avocado. I'm not sure how you can avoid all carbs without eliminating all fruits and vegetables. Dark green vegetables are slow digesting carbs and should not spike your blood glucose nor will citrus fruits (oranges and similar fruit), or berries.0
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Thanks Mike. That's good advice. I appreciate it!0
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chadluvsrue wrote: »I am far from overweight. I'm trying to build muscle not gain fat, which is hardly a bad thing for anyone much less a diabetic
According to BMI (http://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/health/educational/lose_wt/BMI/bmicalc.htm), you are in the overweight category.
When you build muscle, you will put on fat as well. That's inevitable.
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I'm a Type 2 Diabetic. Gaining any weight outside of muscle weight is incredibly unhealthy and could lead to permanent damage your kidneys, blindness, neuropathy, etc. It also will lead to irregular blood sugar (insulin will not know what to do). I'm scared for you and your health by wanting to gain weight, but that's just me. Good luck to you and hope you make a wise decision.0
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Dear fat free. Thank you your responses and help. I am well aware of what the BMI index says for my ht and wt. And I am also well aware of how adding muscle will also make me gain some body fat as well. As I stated with diet and exercise I no longer need to take any medication for my diabetes. Adding some muscle "not much" isn't a concern with my diabetes and certainly not something I will blink at when it comes to the BMI chart. I completely understand how being overweight can impact diabetes. But regardless of what you read on the index I am far from overweight. Trust me on that ! Far from it! I eat healthy and live healthy, well now I do. And there isn't anything wrong with being lean and muscular. I know what the BMI index says where I should be. And frankly when I weighed that much a small gust of wind would have knocked my scrawny butt over. Not for me thank you!0
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Mary Kate. Thank you too for your response! Please see above. I am trying to gain muscle lean muscle! That's it ! Please also know that i regularly check my blood sugars daily and eat very healthy. I made wise choices in my diet and exercise which led me to be able to get off medications as per my doctors. Now all I am trying To do is supplement in a "heathy way" if possible to gain lean muscle.0
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BMI isn't very accurate for muscular people, which OP seems to be saying he is. Not to mention he's only just in the overweight category.FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »According to BMI (http://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/health/educational/lose_wt/BMI/bmicalc.htm), you are in the overweight category.
When you build muscle, you will put on fat as well. That's inevitable.0 -
Thank you Lucy!0
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Repeat:
When were you diagnosed?
Did you ever have an antibody test to rule out the possibility of type 1? (i.e. LADA or type 1.5 when diagnosed as an adult)
Do you see an endocrinologist?
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Yes I saw an endo. Type 2 runs in my family big time. Definitely type 2. I was diagnosed last August. Body fat last measured was 12%. Haven't done musc %0
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I'm a type 2 diabetic trying to gain muscle! To gain muscle, you need a *slight* excess of calories along with a good lifting plan. People with no blood-sugar issues generally set their protein and fat #s and keep them steady, then increase/decrease their carb intake to adjust their calorie levels based on their current goal (to gain, lose, or maintain). In contrast, I set my protein and carbs as steady numbers, then adjust my fat intake to bring my calories up or down based on current goals. I add/subtract foods like avocado, almonds, olive oil, egg yolks to adjust my fat numbers. Talk to your dietician about it, mine is on board with the plan and my A1c #'s have been good as well as my daily finger pricks, so I'm healthy.0
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Great advice thank you west coast girl !!!0
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OK, so if you are definitely type 2 and your HbA1C is 4.5%, then do the same thing as everyone else trying to gain muscle. It sounds like you have BG's of a non-diabetic. Since your body isn't acting differently, then why would you treat it differently?
Also, make sure to eat some fast acting carbs (30g more or less) immediately (within a few minutes) after working out to replenish glycogen.0 -
westcoastgrl21 wrote: »I'm a type 2 diabetic trying to gain muscle! To gain muscle, you need a *slight* excess of calories along with a good lifting plan. People with no blood-sugar issues generally set their protein and fat #s and keep them steady, then increase/decrease their carb intake to adjust their calorie levels based on their current goal (to gain, lose, or maintain). In contrast, I set my protein and carbs as steady numbers, then adjust my fat intake to bring my calories up or down based on current goals. I add/subtract foods like avocado, almonds, olive oil, egg yolks to adjust my fat numbers. Talk to your dietician about it, mine is on board with the plan and my A1c #'s have been good as well as my daily finger pricks, so I'm healthy.
Winner winner chicken dinner (with skin ON)
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Lol! Thanks for response and advice! Looks like you know what you are talking about!0
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type 2 diabetes is caused by eating, as your body functions properly.. so if you made the right eating changes at time and you are fine now, just keep the healthy eating, train hard and it will work out .. 0
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I'd suggest focusing on increasing fat and protein intake to meet caloric needs and minimizing carbs (obviously). While having increased lean muscle mass will improve your insulin sensitivity, you don't want to put undue stress on your already impaired pancreas while bulking from eating too many carbs. Remember, by the time your A1c first becomes abnormal, you've already lost roughly 50% of the beta cells in your pancreas.0
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I'd suggest focusing on increasing fat and protein intake to meet caloric needs and minimizing carbs (obviously). While having increased lean muscle mass will improve your insulin sensitivity, you don't want to put undue stress on your already impaired pancreas while bulking from eating too many carbs. Remember, by the time your A1c first becomes abnormal, you've already lost roughly 50% of the beta cells in your pancreas.
Wrong. You are conflating type 1 and type 2, you are using vague data points to come to specific conclusions, and the conclusion is not supported by the data points (even if they were specific).0 -
Type 1 involves autoimmune attack on beta cells but type 2 does involve loss of beta cell functionality albeit secondary to peripheral insulin resistance. More insulin resistance = pancreas has to secrete more insulin = beta cells burnout. So by the time your blood glucose becomes abnormal it means that your pancreas is unable to secrete sufficient insulin to overcome the resistance. This is the reason why sufonylureas like glyburide are being phased out because while they control blood sugars they just cause your pancreas to burnout sooner.0
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Type 1 involves autoimmune attack on beta cells but type 2 does involve loss of beta cell functionality albeit secondary to peripheral insulin resistance. More insulin resistance = pancreas has to secrete more insulin = beta cells burnout. So by the time your blood glucose becomes abnormal it means that your pancreas is unable to secrete sufficient insulin to overcome the resistance. This is the reason why sufonylureas like glyburide are being phased out because while they control blood sugars they just cause your pancreas to burnout sooner.
It may be that type 2's lose some beta cells for the reason you describe, but type 2 is usually noticed because of insulin uptake issues long before any beta cells are lost. And it is often noticed because of elevated HbA1C tests... before any loss of beta cells.
Type 1 is an autoimmune disease. Type 2 is a metabolic disorder. Type 2 is an efficiency/absorption/uptake issue and a type 2 will not usually lose 50% of insulin production capacity ever, much less before HbA1C levels are elevated.. Sure, it might be possible, but if we are going to discuss such rare circumstances, let's also consider double diabetes... But let's not actually because it distracts from the point of the thread.0
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