Treadmill tip I found
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You are right but I didnt or wouldnt say anything! Lots of people think things they shouldnt or couldnt say but isnt the important thing is that they dont say it? I wouldnt want to hurt anyone intentionally..I should add that I live in a small town and these are people I know,,but that doesnt mean I would say anything..0
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shortntall1 wrote: »http://walking.about.com/od/treadmillworkouts/a/treadmillhold.htm
Thought maybe some would find it interesting
Holding Onto the Treadmill is Make-Believe Walking and Fake-Running
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No doubt you're ruffling some feathers with this article. I don't know if I would call it "fake" but obviously anything that makes it easier for you to do the exercise is reducing the calorie burn or effectiveness of the exercise. That doesn't make it terrible however. It's sort of like using resistance bands to help you with a pull up. It's a good beginner step if you can't quite do a pull up on your own. Then again do adults really have a difficult time with walking? :laugh:
Just to ensure that everyone is offended by this I'll add that running on a treadmill even without your hands is terrible. Go outside if you can.
Flame on!
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Oh, how I hate to hear this. Just like I hate to admit that since I've been exercising I do feel a little bit better. I do not like to exercise, and never have. The only thing that makes the treadmill tolerable is that I read while walking. If I can't hold on, I don't know if I will be able to read anymore. Oh well, I DO believe what everyone is saying, that holding on diminishes the effect of the treadmill, so I will give it a try.0
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shortntall1 wrote: »I wouldnt get on a treadmill if I had a balance issue..I wouldnt want to break something lol..Id figure on something else..I mean, why do it if you dont get the benefits you are supposed to? I would find something that I could do where I would get the full benefit. Hey do what you want. But for me, its a waste of time if I cant get what I am supposed to get out of it. It's like eating chips. No nutritional value but hey, its eating.
So what? Are these people supposed to give up walking too?
I have some balance issues due to some lingering effects of vertigo but that hasn't stopped me from jumping on the treadmill now and again. And define "full benefit". If someone is moving more than before, regardless at how slow a pace, I think that's pretty beneficial.0 -
PeachyPlum wrote: »I'm a big fan of minding my own business at the gym.
I can think of lots of legitimate reasons to hold onto the treadmill. Some people have balance issues due to inner ear problems. Some people are prone to debilitating migraines that come on extremely suddenly. Some people are just not confident enough to let go yet. It's none of my business, unless they've hired me as their personal trainer (and they haven't).
On the rare occasions when you see me on a treadmill, you'll probably see me holding on lightly, especially at the beginning. I usually run outside, and on the rare occasions when I have to use a treadmill instead, it takes my brain about ten minutes to get the hang of the whole "hey, the road is moving" thing.
If someone were to come and tell me I was doing it wrong, I'm pretty sure they would regret it.
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PeachyPlum wrote: »The only other judging I do in the gym is the weightlifting dudes who lift stuff that is too heavy for them, then DROP THE WEIGHT. Don't they know they get tree times the workout putting that weight down S L O W L Y?
Yeah, but putting the weights down slowly doesn't get everyone to notice them...
You know how I know you don't know anything about weight lifting?0 -
shortntall1 wrote: »I wish we had a stairmaster thing at the gym I go to (its a small university gym)..they have something called a Jacobs ladder (?) which looks pretty scary.
Jacobs Ladder is a killer. It's a "master" of the stairmaster.
I would use it at the heartbeat over stairmaster - anyday. But that's just me.
I would but the longest I did it was like 2 minutes. That exercise machine is the hardest cardio machine I have done.
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PikaKnight wrote: »PeachyPlum wrote: »The only other judging I do in the gym is the weightlifting dudes who lift stuff that is too heavy for them, then DROP THE WEIGHT. Don't they know they get tree times the workout putting that weight down S L O W L Y?
Yeah, but putting the weights down slowly doesn't get everyone to notice them...
You know how I know you don't know anything about weight lifting?
^^ Absolute truth.
But the guy who counts 100 dumbbell reps out (very) loud, then drops the dumbbells and hits on the first girl to turn around at the noise? I just can't see how that's not attention-seeking.0 -
PeachyPlum wrote: »PikaKnight wrote: »PeachyPlum wrote: »The only other judging I do in the gym is the weightlifting dudes who lift stuff that is too heavy for them, then DROP THE WEIGHT. Don't they know they get tree times the workout putting that weight down S L O W L Y?
Yeah, but putting the weights down slowly doesn't get everyone to notice them...
You know how I know you don't know anything about weight lifting?
^^ Absolute truth.
But the guy who counts 100 dumbbell reps out (very) loud, then drops the dumbbells and hits on the first girl to turn around at the noise? I just can't see how that's not attention-seeking.
Oh. Well, because ONE guy did this...
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PikaKnight wrote: »PeachyPlum wrote: »PikaKnight wrote: »PeachyPlum wrote: »The only other judging I do in the gym is the weightlifting dudes who lift stuff that is too heavy for them, then DROP THE WEIGHT. Don't they know they get tree times the workout putting that weight down S L O W L Y?
Yeah, but putting the weights down slowly doesn't get everyone to notice them...
You know how I know you don't know anything about weight lifting?
^^ Absolute truth.
But the guy who counts 100 dumbbell reps out (very) loud, then drops the dumbbells and hits on the first girl to turn around at the noise? I just can't see how that's not attention-seeking.
Oh. Well, because ONE guy did this...
:indifferent:
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PeachyPlum wrote: »PikaKnight wrote: »PeachyPlum wrote: »The only other judging I do in the gym is the weightlifting dudes who lift stuff that is too heavy for them, then DROP THE WEIGHT. Don't they know they get tree times the workout putting that weight down S L O W L Y?
Yeah, but putting the weights down slowly doesn't get everyone to notice them...
You know how I know you don't know anything about weight lifting?
^^ Absolute truth.
But the guy who counts 100 dumbbell reps out (very) loud, then drops the dumbbells and hits on the first girl to turn around at the noise? I just can't see how that's not attention-seeking.
Cause everyone who lifts weights (and possibly drops them) is totes like this dude.0 -
PeachyPlum wrote: »PikaKnight wrote: »PeachyPlum wrote: »The only other judging I do in the gym is the weightlifting dudes who lift stuff that is too heavy for them, then DROP THE WEIGHT. Don't they know they get tree times the workout putting that weight down S L O W L Y?
Yeah, but putting the weights down slowly doesn't get everyone to notice them...
You know how I know you don't know anything about weight lifting?
^^ Absolute truth.
But the guy who counts 100 dumbbell reps out (very) loud, then drops the dumbbells and hits on the first girl to turn around at the noise? I just can't see how that's not attention-seeking.
Cause everyone who lifts weights (and possibly drops them) is totes like this dude.
Nope, not everyone (and I don't remember saying that). But there are a whole lot of them at our local gym.0 -
The only other judging I do in the gym is the weightlifting dudes who lift stuff that is too heavy for them, then DROP THE WEIGHT. Don't they know they get tree times the workout putting that weight down S L O W L Y?
Thanks for reminding me that it is better to remain silent at the risk of being thought a fool, than to talk and remove all doubt of it.0 -
PeachyPlum wrote: »PeachyPlum wrote: »PikaKnight wrote: »PeachyPlum wrote: »The only other judging I do in the gym is the weightlifting dudes who lift stuff that is too heavy for them, then DROP THE WEIGHT. Don't they know they get tree times the workout putting that weight down S L O W L Y?
Yeah, but putting the weights down slowly doesn't get everyone to notice them...
You know how I know you don't know anything about weight lifting?
^^ Absolute truth.
But the guy who counts 100 dumbbell reps out (very) loud, then drops the dumbbells and hits on the first girl to turn around at the noise? I just can't see how that's not attention-seeking.
Cause everyone who lifts weights (and possibly drops them) is totes like this dude.
Nope, not everyone (and I don't remember saying that). But there are a whole lot of them at our local gym.
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The only other judging I do in the gym is the weightlifting dudes who lift stuff that is too heavy for them, then DROP THE WEIGHT. Don't they know they get tree times the workout putting that weight down S L O W L Y?
Thanks for reminding me that it is better to remain silent at the risk of being thought a fool, than to talk and remove all doubt of it.
The hypocrisy to her previous post (which was awesome) is outstanding.0 -
The only other judging I do in the gym is the weightlifting dudes who lift stuff that is too heavy for them, then DROP THE WEIGHT. Don't they know they get tree times the workout putting that weight down S L O W L Y?
Thanks for reminding me that it is better to remain silent at the risk of being thought a fool, than to talk and remove all doubt of it.
The hypocrisy to her previous post (which was awesome) is outstanding.
I only judge that of which I know nothing.0 -
shortntall1 wrote: »I wouldnt get on a treadmill if I had a balance issue..I wouldnt want to break something lol..Id figure on something else..I mean, why do it if you dont get the benefits you are supposed to? I would find something that I could do where I would get the full benefit. Hey do what you want. But for me, its a waste of time if I cant get what I am supposed to get out of it. It's like eating chips. No nutritional value but hey, its eating.
I used to get on the treadmill all the time when my balance was bad due to being out of shape. Guess what I got out of it? Better balance.
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PeachyPlum wrote: »PikaKnight wrote: »PeachyPlum wrote: »The only other judging I do in the gym is the weightlifting dudes who lift stuff that is too heavy for them, then DROP THE WEIGHT. Don't they know they get tree times the workout putting that weight down S L O W L Y?
Yeah, but putting the weights down slowly doesn't get everyone to notice them...
You know how I know you don't know anything about weight lifting?
^^ Absolute truth.
But the guy who counts 100 dumbbell reps out (very) loud, then drops the dumbbells and hits on the first girl to turn around at the noise? I just can't see how that's not attention-seeking.
Why so much cardio?
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PeachyPlum wrote: »PikaKnight wrote: »PeachyPlum wrote: »The only other judging I do in the gym is the weightlifting dudes who lift stuff that is too heavy for them, then DROP THE WEIGHT. Don't they know they get tree times the workout putting that weight down S L O W L Y?
Yeah, but putting the weights down slowly doesn't get everyone to notice them...
You know how I know you don't know anything about weight lifting?
^^ Absolute truth.
But the guy who counts 100 dumbbell reps out (very) loud, then drops the dumbbells and hits on the first girl to turn around at the noise? I just can't see how that's not attention-seeking.
Why so much cardio?
And who sits there counting those reps out to know this?0 -
Badabing.PeachyPlum wrote: »The only other judging I do in the gym is the weightlifting dudes who lift stuff that is too heavy for them, then DROP THE WEIGHT. Don't they know they get tree times the workout putting that weight down S L O W L Y?
Yeah, but putting the weights down slowly doesn't get everyone to notice them...
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No doubt it's tough Jo. I'm sure you've seen people on it though at high speed settings, and totally leaning forward so far that their upper body is at a 45 degree angle hanging on for dear life. No one climbs stairs that way if they were just climbing. I'm just saying that many people put the resistance/speed to much more than they need to possibly thinking they are achieving more, when in truth they really aren't.I would agree that someone isnt' using their time as effectively - but that's none of my buisness.
I disagree about the stairmaster.
You do as much as you can without holding on- but at some point- you get fracking tired- and that's all there is to it- it's a change of body line- I try not to-but it happens. Spend more than 15 min on one of those things and you'll find yourself bent over half draped on the machine to.
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You experiment. Incline it and go at a speed that's moderately challenging. Then when you get better, incline it .5 or 1. It SHOULDN'T be easier.jennismagic wrote: »I hold onto the treadmill because I don't get a great workout at lower inclines and slower speeds. I've continued to lose weight. *kanyeshrug*
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We don't have one, but when I've used it, it made me whimper like a baby.shortntall1 wrote: »I wish we had a stairmaster thing at the gym I go to (its a small university gym)..they have something called a Jacobs ladder (?) which looks pretty scary.
Id' use a Jacob's ladder- those things are beast.
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shortntall1 wrote: »You think when I was 315lbs, I didnt think people were judging me whether I was at the gym or outside? Ive been the one at the gym who felt like I didnt fit in but I told myself I had every right to be there just like anyone else. And if I thought I was burning 300 calories when I was really only burning 150, I would have liked to know. Thats all I meant.
You're awesome.
Don't worry about it - it's the internet - **** happens. :drinker:0 -
If you're holding on at 15% incline, then it's too steep for you to do. Holding on reduces 30%-50% of the resistance, so you're just better off lower the incline down to what you can do without holding on.jenncornelsen wrote: »i hold on . but thats because i have the incline at 15% and otherwise ill probably fall off. i try to go a bit without but ya. been working good enough for me
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Holding the hadrails at 15% incline would burn more calories than not holding the handrails with no incline.0 -
If you're holding on at 15% incline, then it's too steep for you to do. Holding on reduces 30%-50% of the resistance, so you're just better off lower the incline down to what you can do without holding on.jenncornelsen wrote: »i hold on . but thats because i have the incline at 15% and otherwise ill probably fall off. i try to go a bit without but ya. been working good enough for me
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Holding the hadrails at 15% incline would burn more calories than not holding the handrails with no incline.
What about not holding the handrails at 8% incline?0 -
If you're holding on at 15% incline, then it's too steep for you to do. Holding on reduces 30%-50% of the resistance, so you're just better off lower the incline down to what you can do without holding on.jenncornelsen wrote: »i hold on . but thats because i have the incline at 15% and otherwise ill probably fall off. i try to go a bit without but ya. been working good enough for me
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Holding the hadrails at 15% incline would burn more calories than not holding the handrails with no incline.
What about not holding the handrails at 8% incline?
Do it both ways with your HRM attached and find out...0 -
shortntall1 wrote: »I mean, why do it if you dont get the benefits you are supposed to? .
Ever heard of modifying??
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If you're holding on at 15% incline, then it's too steep for you to do. Holding on reduces 30%-50% of the resistance, so you're just better off lower the incline down to what you can do without holding on.jenncornelsen wrote: »i hold on . but thats because i have the incline at 15% and otherwise ill probably fall off. i try to go a bit without but ya. been working good enough for me
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Holding the hadrails at 15% incline would burn more calories than not holding the handrails with no incline.
hmm so increase in HR means you burn more?
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