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TyronnePanaino wrote: »I think people that mention 'starvation mode' are regularly referring to metabolic damage... Just sayin
People who know what they are talking about, sure. Most people on this site are of the "oh no, I ate under 1200 cals, I'm going into starvation mode and gaining weight" variety, though.0 -
rocknlotsofrolls wrote: »I'm not trying to vent, but I'm getting so tired of this "starvation mode" myth. I wish people would remember those commercials with the starving kids in Africa. Do they look fat? People chiming in on things they don't know to be true really irritates me.
HA! Yes, that would be one terrible cup of coffee!!
You 2 are aware that coffee can be made at home, are you not? You can make a great cup of coffee for $0.35. At home.0 -
Starving mode, really. If you complaining you starving then eat please. No one is forcing you to diet. If you are not losing weight and complaining then find something better because there are plenty of diets out there.
As for starving kids in Africa, there are obese children too. Oh btw my kids are half African and they are not starving.
Please, not everything you see on the television you should believe. I am living in AFRICA!! In Nigeria to be precise. Yes there are people living in poverty, yes some live in huts but it is only in the villages. Not everyone lives in a hut here and not every child is starving. People in the villages are enjoying themselves better than us that live in the city. Food is fresher and organic there and it is also very cheap. Below is the different type of houses. Poorer ones included.
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Starving mode, really. If you complaining you starving then eat please. No one is forcing you to diet. If you are not losing weight and complaining then find something better because there are plenty of diets out there.
As for starving kids in Africa, there are obese children too. Oh btw my kids are half African and they are not starving.
Please, not everything you see on the television you should believe. I am living in AFRICA!! In Nigeria to be precise. Yes there are people living in poverty, yes some live in huts but it is only in the villages. Not everyone lives in a hut here and not every child is starving. People in the villages are enjoying themselves better than us that live in the city. Food is fresher and organic there and it is also very cheap. Below is the different type of houses. Poorer ones included.
Nobody, but nobody, claimed that every child in Africa is starving.0 -
Starving mode, really. If you complaining you starving then eat please. No one is forcing you to diet. If you are not losing weight and complaining then find something better because there are plenty of diets out there.
As for starving kids in Africa, there are obese children too. Oh btw my kids are half African and they are not starving.
Please, not everything you see on the television you should believe. I am living in AFRICA!! In Nigeria to be precise. Yes there are people living in poverty, yes some live in huts but it is only in the villages. Not everyone lives in a hut here and not every child is starving. People in the villages are enjoying themselves better than us that live in the city. Food is fresher and organic there and it is also very cheap. Below is the different type of houses. Poorer ones included.
this is very informative.......but don't really think it's what she meant....0 -
midwesterner85 wrote: »I once thought I could accellerate weight loss by reducing calories further. After gaining weight progressively for 3 weeks, I read something that indicated if one consumes fewer calories than their RMR, they could gain weight. A quick calculation showed my new calorie level was below estimated RMR. So I returned to a higher calorie level (which was above RMR and below BMR) and began to lose again.
I'm sure I'm going to get a lot of hate for sharing my experience, and some will call me a liar. I don't know the scientific reason behind why I started gaining when restricting calories further, but I will not do that again (at least not for more than a day or 2). It set me back and lost time.
How much weight did you gain over those 3 weeks?
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Starving mode, really. If you complaining you starving then eat please. No one is forcing you to diet. If you are not losing weight and complaining then find something better because there are plenty of diets out there.
As for starving kids in Africa, there are obese children too. Oh btw my kids are half African and they are not starving.
Please, not everything you see on the television you should believe. I am living in AFRICA!! In Nigeria to be precise. Yes there are people living in poverty, yes some live in huts but it is only in the villages. Not everyone lives in a hut here and not every child is starving. People in the villages are enjoying themselves better than us that live in the city. Food is fresher and organic there and it is also very cheap. Below is the different type of houses. Poorer ones included.
Nigeria LOL The motherland. They have Prince there too.
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rocknlotsofrolls wrote: »I'm not trying to vent, but I'm getting so tired of this "starvation mode" myth. I wish people would remember those commercials with the starving kids in Africa. Do they look fat? People chiming in on things they don't know to be true really irritates me.
HA! Yes, that would be one terrible cup of coffee!!
You 2 are aware that coffee can be made at home, are you not? You can make a great cup of coffee for $0.35. At home.
Not likely. Even if I spent tons of money on all that fancy equipment and even if I was actually home often enough to use such equipment, I am hopeless when it comes to making anything great. I can make something that is edible, but not "great." Anyway, since I'm just 1 person and usually am drinking coffee on the road (so maybe 1-2 times per year would I use it), the equipment cost would take quite a while to pay for itself. Anyway, when I drink coffee, it is for caffeine and not for taste; so I suppose my point is irrelevant anyway. I'll spend $1-$2 for truck stop coffee.0 -
midwesterner85 wrote: »rocknlotsofrolls wrote: »I'm not trying to vent, but I'm getting so tired of this "starvation mode" myth. I wish people would remember those commercials with the starving kids in Africa. Do they look fat? People chiming in on things they don't know to be true really irritates me.
HA! Yes, that would be one terrible cup of coffee!!
You 2 are aware that coffee can be made at home, are you not? You can make a great cup of coffee for $0.35. At home.
Not likely. Even if I spent tons of money on all that fancy equipment and even if I was actually home often enough to use such equipment, I am hopeless when it comes to making anything great. I can make something that is edible, but not "great." Anyway, since I'm just 1 person and usually am drinking coffee on the road (so maybe 1-2 times per year would I use it), the equipment cost would take quite a while to pay for itself. Anyway, when I drink coffee, it is for caffeine and not for taste; so I suppose my point is irrelevant anyway. I'll spend $1-$2 for truck stop coffee.
I make a great cup of coffee with the aeropress. Easy peasy, and about 25 bucks.
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girlviernes wrote: »midwesterner85 wrote: »I once thought I could accellerate weight loss by reducing calories further. After gaining weight progressively for 3 weeks, I read something that indicated if one consumes fewer calories than their RMR, they could gain weight. A quick calculation showed my new calorie level was below estimated RMR. So I returned to a higher calorie level (which was above RMR and below BMR) and began to lose again.
I'm sure I'm going to get a lot of hate for sharing my experience, and some will call me a liar. I don't know the scientific reason behind why I started gaining when restricting calories further, but I will not do that again (at least not for more than a day or 2). It set me back and lost time.
How much weight did you gain over those 3 weeks?
6 lbs.0 -
midwesterner85 wrote: »I once thought I could accellerate weight loss by reducing calories further. After gaining weight progressively for 3 weeks, I read something that indicated if one consumes fewer calories than their RMR, they could gain weight. A quick calculation showed my new calorie level was below estimated RMR. So I returned to a higher calorie level (which was above RMR and below BMR) and began to lose again.
I'm sure I'm going to get a lot of hate for sharing my experience, and some will call me a liar. I don't know the scientific reason behind why I started gaining when restricting calories further, but I will not do that again (at least not for more than a day or 2). It set me back and lost time.
if you really gained you were eating more than you thought.
you can eat lower than your RMR and lose weight and it not be unhealthy as long as it's not done for a prolonged period of time...and 3 weeks is not long enough.
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girlviernes wrote: »midwesterner85 wrote: »rocknlotsofrolls wrote: »I'm not trying to vent, but I'm getting so tired of this "starvation mode" myth. I wish people would remember those commercials with the starving kids in Africa. Do they look fat? People chiming in on things they don't know to be true really irritates me.
HA! Yes, that would be one terrible cup of coffee!!
You 2 are aware that coffee can be made at home, are you not? You can make a great cup of coffee for $0.35. At home.
Not likely. Even if I spent tons of money on all that fancy equipment and even if I was actually home often enough to use such equipment, I am hopeless when it comes to making anything great. I can make something that is edible, but not "great." Anyway, since I'm just 1 person and usually am drinking coffee on the road (so maybe 1-2 times per year would I use it), the equipment cost would take quite a while to pay for itself. Anyway, when I drink coffee, it is for caffeine and not for taste; so I suppose my point is irrelevant anyway. I'll spend $1-$2 for truck stop coffee.
I make a great cup of coffee with the aeropress. Easy peasy, and about 25 bucks.
I think you missed my point... I'm coffee-making challenged.0 -
janejellyroll wrote: »Starving mode, really. If you complaining you starving then eat please. No one is forcing you to diet. If you are not losing weight and complaining then find something better because there are plenty of diets out there.
As for starving kids in Africa, there are obese children too. Oh btw my kids are half African and they are not starving.
Please, not everything you see on the television you should believe. I am living in AFRICA!! In Nigeria to be precise. Yes there are people living in poverty, yes some live in huts but it is only in the villages. Not everyone lives in a hut here and not every child is starving. People in the villages are enjoying themselves better than us that live in the city. Food is fresher and organic there and it is also very cheap. Below is the different type of houses. Poorer ones included.
Nobody, but nobody, claimed that every child in Africa is starving.
Exactly! Who said everyone in Africa lives in poverty?0 -
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No it was not the girl that started it that I was referring to, in fact I understand what she is trying to say. Rocknlotsofrolls, I commend you. Too many people complain about gaining weight when they are eating less, take it from me who had an eating disorder when I was younger, it is impossible. Those people are the very ones cheating themselves, telling everyone they are on a diet and behind everyone's backs they are raiding the fridge and the cupboard. If anyone is serious about missing weight they should do it healthily and be disciplined in the way they follow the guidelines. The reason I put that info there about African is because I am sick and tired of the TV stations putting Africa as the place children starve. Did you know in Ireland, where I a from originally there are starving children and no one knows but them. Same every country of the world. We should stop complaining about not losing weight and instead do something about it. That is what we are here for right!!!!0
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midwesterner85 wrote: »I once thought I could accellerate weight loss by reducing calories further. After gaining weight progressively for 3 weeks, I read something that indicated if one consumes fewer calories than their RMR, they could gain weight. A quick calculation showed my new calorie level was below estimated RMR. So I returned to a higher calorie level (which was above RMR and below BMR) and began to lose again.
I'm sure I'm going to get a lot of hate for sharing my experience, and some will call me a liar. I don't know the scientific reason behind why I started gaining when restricting calories further, but I will not do that again (at least not for more than a day or 2). It set me back and lost time.
if you really gained you were eating more than you thought.
you can eat lower than your RMR and lose weight and it not be unhealthy as long as it's not done for a prolonged period of time...and 3 weeks is not long enough.
That is an easy explanation, but doesn't hold water. I didn't change methods of measuring and logging food. I used a food scale before, during, and after the weight gain period surrounded by periods of weight loss.
If I had, at the same time I dropped my calorie limit, stopped weighing food and started "eye-balling" everything... then returned to weighing when I resumed a higher calorie intake, then I could see your point.0 -
midwesterner85 wrote: »midwesterner85 wrote: »I once thought I could accellerate weight loss by reducing calories further. After gaining weight progressively for 3 weeks, I read something that indicated if one consumes fewer calories than their RMR, they could gain weight. A quick calculation showed my new calorie level was below estimated RMR. So I returned to a higher calorie level (which was above RMR and below BMR) and began to lose again.
I'm sure I'm going to get a lot of hate for sharing my experience, and some will call me a liar. I don't know the scientific reason behind why I started gaining when restricting calories further, but I will not do that again (at least not for more than a day or 2). It set me back and lost time.
if you really gained you were eating more than you thought.
you can eat lower than your RMR and lose weight and it not be unhealthy as long as it's not done for a prolonged period of time...and 3 weeks is not long enough.
That is an easy explanation, but doesn't hold water. I didn't change methods of measuring and logging food. I used a food scale before, during, and after the weight loss.
If I had, at the same time I dropped my calorie limit, stopped weighing food and started "eye-balling" everything... then returned to weighing when I resumed a higher calorie intake, then I could see your point.
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midwesterner85 wrote: »girlviernes wrote: »midwesterner85 wrote: »rocknlotsofrolls wrote: »I'm not trying to vent, but I'm getting so tired of this "starvation mode" myth. I wish people would remember those commercials with the starving kids in Africa. Do they look fat? People chiming in on things they don't know to be true really irritates me.
HA! Yes, that would be one terrible cup of coffee!!
You 2 are aware that coffee can be made at home, are you not? You can make a great cup of coffee for $0.35. At home.
Not likely. Even if I spent tons of money on all that fancy equipment and even if I was actually home often enough to use such equipment, I am hopeless when it comes to making anything great. I can make something that is edible, but not "great." Anyway, since I'm just 1 person and usually am drinking coffee on the road (so maybe 1-2 times per year would I use it), the equipment cost would take quite a while to pay for itself. Anyway, when I drink coffee, it is for caffeine and not for taste; so I suppose my point is irrelevant anyway. I'll spend $1-$2 for truck stop coffee.
I make a great cup of coffee with the aeropress. Easy peasy, and about 25 bucks.
I think you missed my point... I'm coffee-making challenged.
I think it's a mental block! All you do is put two scoops of grinds, pour in hot water, then push through the water.
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Hmmm...Sub-Saharan Africa is the region with the highest prevalence (percentage of population) of hunger. One person in four there is undernourished. Poor nutrition causes nearly half (45%) of deaths in children under five - 3.1 million children each year.
I'd say 45% of children's deaths being caused by poor nutrition is a pretty large number worth recognizing.0
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