Views on corn?

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  • Mr_Knight
    Mr_Knight Posts: 9,532 Member
    edited May 2015
    Corn is yummy, but it doesn't make it to my plate very often, either. Just doesn't fit my macros well, and have to give up other things to make it work.

    Nothing even remotely wrong with leaving it off of your regular menu....
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  • mccindy72
    mccindy72 Posts: 7,001 Member
    jwolford90 wrote: »
    I've heard mixed reviews about corn. I have no idea what to believe. I follow a 1200 calorie diet but I had a major craving today and ate two cans of corn (yes I was THAT hungry lol). I am still under my daily calories but should I avoid splurging on that in the future? I assumed eating corn was a healthier substitute than eating a sandwich, breads, etc.

    Just remember, corn is not a vegetable. It is a grain. For your calculations. it is the same thing as eating bread, since it is a carb.
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  • sunburntgalaxy
    sunburntgalaxy Posts: 455 Member
    jwolford90 wrote: »
    I've heard mixed reviews about corn. I have no idea what to believe. I follow a 1200 calorie diet but I had a major craving today and ate two cans of corn (yes I was THAT hungry lol). I am still under my daily calories but should I avoid splurging on that in the future? I assumed eating corn was a healthier substitute than eating a sandwich, breads, etc.

    I am Pro-Corn and have on occasion been known to eat it as my dinner. Also my aunt once got me a case of canned corn because I love it so much.


    Also this is one of my favorite birthday cards to give people of all time (although based on this image they changed it a little bit since I bought it - it used to just be "I love corn" not "I love corn on the cob") so yeah I say eat the corn if you want it.

    stephanie-likes-corn-on-the-cob-dr-heckle-funny-happy-birthday-card.jpg?w=750
  • miriamtob
    miriamtob Posts: 436 Member
    emily_stew wrote: »
    miriamtob wrote: »
    emily_stew wrote: »
    miriamtob wrote: »
    Corn is weird. It needs human intervention in order to grow and it has gotten insanely good at getting people to grow it; we grow a friggin' lot of it! Humans and corn truly have a symbiosis. Michael Pollan writes about corn in 'The Omnivore's Dilemma'.

    You make corn sound like a sentient being with malicious intent.
    It's just corn.

    Nah, I didn't. That's just your interpretation. You're just human. Corn is a grass.

    I'm not the one who described corn as "gotten insanely good" at getting humans to grow it. You humanized it, or more probably, demonized it. For whatever reason

    Oh geez, you are just ready to jump down my throat at every turn just because we may have expressed different opinions on other threads. Chill out, take your troll goggles off, and get a sense of humor. It's just corn. I'm sharing my views on it. I like purple corn.
  • Mr_Knight
    Mr_Knight Posts: 9,532 Member
    emily_stew wrote: »
    miriamtob wrote: »
    emily_stew wrote: »
    miriamtob wrote: »
    Corn is weird. It needs human intervention in order to grow and it has gotten insanely good at getting people to grow it; we grow a friggin' lot of it! Humans and corn truly have a symbiosis. Michael Pollan writes about corn in 'The Omnivore's Dilemma'.

    You make corn sound like a sentient being with malicious intent.
    It's just corn.

    Nah, I didn't. That's just your interpretation. You're just human. Corn is a grass.

    I'm not the one who described corn as "gotten insanely good" at getting humans to grow it. You humanized it, or more probably, demonized it.

    Wow.

    That's one hell of a reach.

    :smiley:
  • mccindy72
    mccindy72 Posts: 7,001 Member
    miriamtob wrote: »
    Corn is weird. It needs human intervention in order to grow and it has gotten insanely good at getting people to grow it; we grow a friggin' lot of it! Humans and corn truly have a symbiosis. Michael Pollan writes about corn in 'The Omnivore's Dilemma'.

    What the *kitten*? Well how did it grow in the first place? Magic little golden nuggets from heaven?
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  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    emily_stew wrote: »
    miriamtob wrote: »
    emily_stew wrote: »
    miriamtob wrote: »
    emily_stew wrote: »
    miriamtob wrote: »
    Corn is weird. It needs human intervention in order to grow and it has gotten insanely good at getting people to grow it; we grow a friggin' lot of it! Humans and corn truly have a symbiosis. Michael Pollan writes about corn in 'The Omnivore's Dilemma'.

    You make corn sound like a sentient being with malicious intent.
    It's just corn.

    Nah, I didn't. That's just your interpretation. You're just human. Corn is a grass.

    I'm not the one who described corn as "gotten insanely good" at getting humans to grow it. You humanized it, or more probably, demonized it. For whatever reason

    Oh geez, you are just ready to jump down my throat at every turn just because we may have expressed different opinions on other threads. Chill out, take your troll goggles off, and get a sense of humor. It's just corn. I'm sharing my views on it. I like purple corn.

    LOLOL
    What?
    I don't even know who you are.

    someone has a stalker…..
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  • mccindy72
    mccindy72 Posts: 7,001 Member
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    emily_stew wrote: »
    miriamtob wrote: »
    emily_stew wrote: »
    miriamtob wrote: »
    emily_stew wrote: »
    miriamtob wrote: »
    Corn is weird. It needs human intervention in order to grow and it has gotten insanely good at getting people to grow it; we grow a friggin' lot of it! Humans and corn truly have a symbiosis. Michael Pollan writes about corn in 'The Omnivore's Dilemma'.

    You make corn sound like a sentient being with malicious intent.
    It's just corn.

    Nah, I didn't. That's just your interpretation. You're just human. Corn is a grass.

    I'm not the one who described corn as "gotten insanely good" at getting humans to grow it. You humanized it, or more probably, demonized it. For whatever reason

    Oh geez, you are just ready to jump down my throat at every turn just because we may have expressed different opinions on other threads. Chill out, take your troll goggles off, and get a sense of humor. It's just corn. I'm sharing my views on it. I like purple corn.

    LOLOL
    What?
    I don't even know who you are.

    someone has a stalker…..

    A CORN STALKER.
  • miriamtob
    miriamtob Posts: 436 Member
    mccindy72 wrote: »
    miriamtob wrote: »
    Corn is weird. It needs human intervention in order to grow and it has gotten insanely good at getting people to grow it; we grow a friggin' lot of it! Humans and corn truly have a symbiosis. Michael Pollan writes about corn in 'The Omnivore's Dilemma'.

    What the *kitten*? Well how did it grow in the first place? Magic little golden nuggets from heaven?

    Read the book, 'the Omnivore's Dilemma'. He explains it pretty well. You can read about its origin here too: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maize
  • mccindy72
    mccindy72 Posts: 7,001 Member
    miriamtob wrote: »
    mccindy72 wrote: »
    miriamtob wrote: »
    Corn is weird. It needs human intervention in order to grow and it has gotten insanely good at getting people to grow it; we grow a friggin' lot of it! Humans and corn truly have a symbiosis. Michael Pollan writes about corn in 'The Omnivore's Dilemma'.

    What the *kitten*? Well how did it grow in the first place? Magic little golden nuggets from heaven?

    Read the book, 'the Omnivore's Dilemma'. He explains it pretty well. You can read about its origin here too: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maize

    Sorry, random book reference and Wikipedia. Not credible sources. People didn't invent corn from nothing. That's not possible.
  • miriamtob
    miriamtob Posts: 436 Member
    Then look it up in encyclopedia Britannica! I don't care. It's a *kitten* interesting plant is all I'm trying to say!
  • mccindy72
    mccindy72 Posts: 7,001 Member
    miriamtob wrote: »
    Then look it up in encyclopedia Britannica! I don't care. It's a *kitten* interesting plant is all I'm trying to say!

    no, you said that humans invented corn and corn made people grow it in mass quantities.
  • Nony_Mouse
    Nony_Mouse Posts: 5,646 Member
    mccindy72 wrote: »
    miriamtob wrote: »
    mccindy72 wrote: »
    miriamtob wrote: »
    Corn is weird. It needs human intervention in order to grow and it has gotten insanely good at getting people to grow it; we grow a friggin' lot of it! Humans and corn truly have a symbiosis. Michael Pollan writes about corn in 'The Omnivore's Dilemma'.

    What the *kitten*? Well how did it grow in the first place? Magic little golden nuggets from heaven?

    Read the book, 'the Omnivore's Dilemma'. He explains it pretty well. You can read about its origin here too: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maize

    Sorry, random book reference and Wikipedia. Not credible sources. People didn't invent corn from nothing. That's not possible.

    Doing this from memory - the wild antecedent of maize is teosinte, and it took a hell of a long time for that to be established because it is so vastly different from domesticated maize. At some point, people started utilising this ancestor, eventually cultivating it, which led to domestication through selecting for desirable traits such as bigger kernels and greater indehiscence (ie kernels that don't fall off when you harvest the ears). Corn has now been bred to be so indehiscent that it is essentially reliant on humans to plant it in order to continue existing :) (or :( from the corn's point of view, if it had one).

    Also, it is delicious.
  • janisvin
    janisvin Posts: 72 Member
    Corn on the cob is a staple in my house in summer and popcorn year round. I have maintained my desired weight loss this way! I find it waaaay superior to anything wheat-y. I say enjoy!
  • Mr_Knight
    Mr_Knight Posts: 9,532 Member
    edited May 2015
    mccindy72 wrote: »
    miriamtob wrote: »
    Then look it up in encyclopedia Britannica! I don't care. It's a *kitten* interesting plant is all I'm trying to say!

    no, you said that humans invented corn and corn made people grow it in mass quantities.

    No, the poster did not say humans "invented" corn - the poster said modern corn can't grow without human intervention.

    Which is actually true - something like 99.9% of the corn grown on this planet can't reseed itself, if left on its own. Without human intervention, what we now call "corn" will pretty much go extinct.
  • fevrale
    fevrale Posts: 170 Member
    Mr_Knight wrote: »
    mccindy72 wrote: »
    miriamtob wrote: »
    Then look it up in encyclopedia Britannica! I don't care. It's a *kitten* interesting plant is all I'm trying to say!

    no, you said that humans invented corn and corn made people grow it in mass quantities.

    No, the poster did not say humans "invented" corn - the poster said modern corn can't grow without human intervention.

    Which is actually true - something like 99.9% of the corn grown on this planet can't reseed itself, if left on its own. Without human intervention, what we now call "corn" will pretty much go extinct.

    And it's really interesting: http://learn.genetics.utah.edu/content/selection/corn/
  • Mr_Knight
    Mr_Knight Posts: 9,532 Member
    fevrale wrote: »
    Mr_Knight wrote: »
    mccindy72 wrote: »
    miriamtob wrote: »
    Then look it up in encyclopedia Britannica! I don't care. It's a *kitten* interesting plant is all I'm trying to say!

    no, you said that humans invented corn and corn made people grow it in mass quantities.

    No, the poster did not say humans "invented" corn - the poster said modern corn can't grow without human intervention.

    Which is actually true - something like 99.9% of the corn grown on this planet can't reseed itself, if left on its own. Without human intervention, what we now call "corn" will pretty much go extinct.

    And it's really interesting: http://learn.genetics.utah.edu/content/selection/corn/

    Nice link! :drinker:
  • time2toneupp
    time2toneupp Posts: 7 Member
    jwolford90 wrote: »
    I've heard mixed reviews about corn. I have no idea what to believe. I follow a 1200 calorie diet but I had a major craving today and ate two cans of corn (yes I was THAT hungry lol). I am still under my daily calories but should I avoid splurging on that in the future? I assumed eating corn was a healthier substitute than eating a sandwich, breads, etc.

  • JoRocka
    JoRocka Posts: 17,525 Member
    mccindy72 wrote: »
    miriamtob wrote: »
    Then look it up in encyclopedia Britannica! I don't care. It's a *kitten* interesting plant is all I'm trying to say!

    no, you said that humans invented corn and corn made people grow it in mass quantities.

    not a single one person has said that bolded part.

    But corn cannot physically reproduce it self at this point. You know how regular plants have male and female parts and they do plant inseminating things? Corn no longer can do that because it's been genertically modified so many times if you stopped planting corn- it would stop growing- it physically cannot reproduce on it's own.
  • Ms_LisaKay
    Ms_LisaKay Posts: 103 Member

    mccindy72 wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    someone has a stalker…..

    A CORN STALKER.

    Bwahahahahaha! And the winner of today's InterwebZ is... :rofl: This made my night!
  • stephanieluvspb
    stephanieluvspb Posts: 997 Member
    miriamtob wrote: »
    Corn is weird. It needs human intervention in order to grow and it has gotten insanely good at getting people to grow it; we grow a friggin' lot of it! Humans and corn truly have a symbiosis. Michael Pollan writes about corn in 'The Omnivore's Dilemma'.

    God bless the humans, cause I love me some corn!!!
  • SarcasmIsMyLoveLanguage
    SarcasmIsMyLoveLanguage Posts: 2,668 Member
    I may be showing my age here, but does anyone else remember Cornholio? No? OK, carry on.

    On another note, fresh Chilliwack corn is best eaten plain because it's so darn sweet. Boil the water, turn heat off, toss in the shucked corn, put the lid on and leave it for 10 minutes. Enjoy.
  • Alatariel75
    Alatariel75 Posts: 18,227 Member
    BinkyBonk wrote: »
    I may be showing my age here, but does anyone else remember Cornholio? No? OK, carry on.

    On another note, fresh Chilliwack corn is best eaten plain because it's so darn sweet. Boil the water, turn heat off, toss in the shucked corn, put the lid on and leave it for 10 minutes. Enjoy.

    MMMNNNGGMMNNNN.... i am the great Cornholio!
  • stephanieluvspb
    stephanieluvspb Posts: 997 Member
    edited May 2015
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  • lemurcat12
    lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886 Member
    edited May 2015
    Nony_Mouse wrote: »
    mccindy72 wrote: »
    miriamtob wrote: »
    mccindy72 wrote: »
    miriamtob wrote: »
    Corn is weird. It needs human intervention in order to grow and it has gotten insanely good at getting people to grow it; we grow a friggin' lot of it! Humans and corn truly have a symbiosis. Michael Pollan writes about corn in 'The Omnivore's Dilemma'.

    What the *kitten*? Well how did it grow in the first place? Magic little golden nuggets from heaven?

    Read the book, 'the Omnivore's Dilemma'. He explains it pretty well. You can read about its origin here too: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maize

    Sorry, random book reference and Wikipedia. Not credible sources. People didn't invent corn from nothing. That's not possible.

    Doing this from memory - the wild antecedent of maize is teosinte, and it took a hell of a long time for that to be established because it is so vastly different from domesticated maize. At some point, people started utilising this ancestor, eventually cultivating it, which led to domestication through selecting for desirable traits such as bigger kernels and greater indehiscence (ie kernels that don't fall off when you harvest the ears). Corn has now been bred to be so indehiscent that it is essentially reliant on humans to plant it in order to continue existing :) (or :( from the corn's point of view, if it had one).

    Also, it is delicious.

    And related to this, a surprisingly high number of people I know had summer jobs back when they were teens detassling corn.
  • jwolford90
    jwolford90 Posts: 43 Member
    That's why I love MFP community. Even topics about corn get interesting... Not to mention how much info I learn from the intelligence of different minds. I increased my calorie intake per day thanks to advice from everyone! I do feel better already.
    As for corn, I'm seeing mixed reviews, but more good than bad. I did not, however, know it was related to bread (being a grain) as someone mentioned in this thread. So interesting...
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