What's your secret!!

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  • miriamtob
    miriamtob Posts: 436 Member
    edited May 2015
    SezxyStef wrote: »
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    Well, all you did is express how much you disapprove of the philosophy. That's your opinion and fortunately it bears no weight. This could be a productive conversation, if people were generally interested in my original answer, but it has been made into a boring discussion with a lot bullying and badgering by many of the usual suspects. Typical. Bye.

    the bullying train is never late, and that is just a fall back because you don't want to answer questions about paleo.

    sorry but disagreeing with your premise about paleo is not "bullying or bashing". I find it ironic that you are complaining about "badgering" when you were attempting to name call people that called you on paleo being a "secret for weight loss"...

    When you asked a member a question they provided you a direct answer; however, you were asked several times for a list of foods that you ate when doing Paleo and refused to answer....

    I was asked to provide a list, randomly and in a mocking tone. The list of foods one can eat on a Paleo/primal/ancestral/Weston A Price diet like mine is crazy long. It's more about food quality, source, and what one is omitting from their menu. I think feeling better helps with weight loss because you can overcome the fatigue that inhibits activity. So, a deficit is great and a deficit while feeling vibrant is even better!

    how do you know it was mocking? You can read into that based on a typed response?

    oh, and no one wanted a complete list, just a sample, so feel free to provide it....

    Yes, and I've been on the forums enough to know where those types of demands lead: jokes and gifs about cauliflower and further attempts to make the declared paleo person look foolish. It is not helpful. You need to work on your delivery; if your intention is to understand more and not just to make jokes.

    funny, you keep complaining about bashing, but the only one bashing is you with your passive aggressive attempts (which are very weak by the way) at name calling.

    so again, where is that temporary list of Paleo foods? I just want to see what paleo specific regional diet you are following...

    If you want to see non-paleo food items go check out their diary yesterday. Unless this person thinks those things are Paleo????

    Paleo can be a way to reach a caloric deficit, the caloric deficit is the "secret" to weight loss. Paleo would be a good answer if the OP asked for options of achieving a caloric deficit... then again almost anything would qualify if you counted calories and stayed under maintenance.

    Like I said, I just want to see some of these Paleolithc foods and what region of the world they are from...as we all know, Paleolithic foods were regionally specific. So Paleo man from northern Europe would not of consumed the same foods as say Paleo man from northern Africa....

    For the number of times you've demanded a food list, you could have easily googled and got the information for yourself. That makes it glaringly obvious to everyone here that you don't really want to know the information, rather you just want to badger someone.

    actually, I cannot Google a list because there are about 5000 different versions of Paleo.


    I googled Weston A Price and posted what is on their "rules"...just because I was curious...not sure how this poster can claim to follow it...as their diary indicates they don't.

    They try but it's hard...
    Just stop judging my food diary, k?
    Paleo is a template that people individualize based on their health goals. I'm not saying it's for everyone; I respect whatever makes people feel good and achieve their goals. Paleo/ primal-whatever-you-want-to-call-it has been a helpful tool for me in many regards including weight loss (yes, I know it comes down to a caloric deficit in the end, but there are all sorts of tricks to make achieving that easier). I can eat some dairy without any problems so I'll eat it. I can't do grains, high sugar, or legumes so naturally Paleo blogs and cookbooks provide the best recipes. Weston A Price inspired me to buy organic, make my own bone broth and cultured vegetables (an amazing source of probiotics and a feel-good, low calorie snack).

    ^hopefully, this also helps answer your other question, 'Which one?" ☺️
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    miriamtob wrote: »
    SezxyStef wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    erickirb wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    miriamtob wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    miriamtob wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    miriamtob wrote: »
    Well, all you did is express how much you disapprove of the philosophy. That's your opinion and fortunately it bears no weight. This could be a productive conversation, if people were generally interested in my original answer, but it has been made into a boring discussion with a lot bullying and badgering by many of the usual suspects. Typical. Bye.

    the bullying train is never late, and that is just a fall back because you don't want to answer questions about paleo.

    sorry but disagreeing with your premise about paleo is not "bullying or bashing". I find it ironic that you are complaining about "badgering" when you were attempting to name call people that called you on paleo being a "secret for weight loss"...

    When you asked a member a question they provided you a direct answer; however, you were asked several times for a list of foods that you ate when doing Paleo and refused to answer....

    I was asked to provide a list, randomly and in a mocking tone. The list of foods one can eat on a Paleo/primal/ancestral/Weston A Price diet like mine is crazy long. It's more about food quality, source, and what one is omitting from their menu. I think feeling better helps with weight loss because you can overcome the fatigue that inhibits activity. So, a deficit is great and a deficit while feeling vibrant is even better!

    how do you know it was mocking? You can read into that based on a typed response?

    oh, and no one wanted a complete list, just a sample, so feel free to provide it....

    Yes, and I've been on the forums enough to know where those types of demands lead: jokes and gifs about cauliflower and further attempts to make the declared paleo person look foolish. It is not helpful. You need to work on your delivery; if your intention is to understand more and not just to make jokes.

    funny, you keep complaining about bashing, but the only one bashing is you with your passive aggressive attempts (which are very weak by the way) at name calling.

    so again, where is that temporary list of Paleo foods? I just want to see what paleo specific regional diet you are following...

    If you want to see non-paleo food items go check out their diary yesterday. Unless this person thinks those things are Paleo????

    Paleo can be a way to reach a caloric deficit, the caloric deficit is the "secret" to weight loss. Paleo would be a good answer if the OP asked for options of achieving a caloric deficit... then again almost anything would qualify if you counted calories and stayed under maintenance.

    Like I said, I just want to see some of these Paleolithc foods and what region of the world they are from...as we all know, Paleolithic foods were regionally specific. So Paleo man from northern Europe would not of consumed the same foods as say Paleo man from northern Africa....

    For the number of times you've demanded a food list, you could have easily googled and got the information for yourself. That makes it glaringly obvious to everyone here that you don't really want to know the information, rather you just want to badger someone.

    actually, I cannot Google a list because there are about 5000 different versions of Paleo.


    I googled Weston A Price and posted what is on their "rules"...just because I was curious...not sure how this poster can claim to follow it...as their diary indicates they don't.

    They try but it's hard...
    Just stop judging my food diary, k?
    Paleo is a template that people individualize based on their health goals. I'm not saying it's for everyone; I respect whatever makes people feel good and achieve their goals. Paleo/ primal-whatever-you-want-to-call-it has been a helpful tool for me in many regards including weight loss (yes, I know it comes down to a caloric deficit in the end, but there are all sorts of tricks to make achieving that easier). I can eat some dairy without any problems so I'll eat it. I can't do grains, high sugar, or legumes so naturally Paleo blogs and cookbooks provide the best recipes. Weston A Price inspired me to buy organic, make my own bone broth and cultured vegetables (an amazing source of probiotics).

    yea, except it is not. It is a specific manner of eating that is regionalized to how Paleotlithic people ate, and has nothing to do with any kind of "modern diet"...

  • elphie754
    elphie754 Posts: 7,574 Member
    Wow- lots abuse flags in the first pages for things that aren't even close to abuse.
  • yopeeps025
    yopeeps025 Posts: 8,680 Member
    elphie754 wrote: »
    Wow- lots abuse flags in the first pages for things that aren't even close to abuse.

    Yup from the usually butthurt crowd.
  • busywaterbending
    busywaterbending Posts: 844 Member
    exercising daily and making it fun.

    and eating healthy, no processed foods.
  • SconnieCat
    SconnieCat Posts: 770 Member
    miriamtob wrote: »
    SezxyStef wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    erickirb wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    miriamtob wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    miriamtob wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    miriamtob wrote: »
    Well, all you did is express how much you disapprove of the philosophy. That's your opinion and fortunately it bears no weight. This could be a productive conversation, if people were generally interested in my original answer, but it has been made into a boring discussion with a lot bullying and badgering by many of the usual suspects. Typical. Bye.

    the bullying train is never late, and that is just a fall back because you don't want to answer questions about paleo.

    sorry but disagreeing with your premise about paleo is not "bullying or bashing". I find it ironic that you are complaining about "badgering" when you were attempting to name call people that called you on paleo being a "secret for weight loss"...

    When you asked a member a question they provided you a direct answer; however, you were asked several times for a list of foods that you ate when doing Paleo and refused to answer....

    I was asked to provide a list, randomly and in a mocking tone. The list of foods one can eat on a Paleo/primal/ancestral/Weston A Price diet like mine is crazy long. It's more about food quality, source, and what one is omitting from their menu. I think feeling better helps with weight loss because you can overcome the fatigue that inhibits activity. So, a deficit is great and a deficit while feeling vibrant is even better!

    how do you know it was mocking? You can read into that based on a typed response?

    oh, and no one wanted a complete list, just a sample, so feel free to provide it....

    Yes, and I've been on the forums enough to know where those types of demands lead: jokes and gifs about cauliflower and further attempts to make the declared paleo person look foolish. It is not helpful. You need to work on your delivery; if your intention is to understand more and not just to make jokes.

    funny, you keep complaining about bashing, but the only one bashing is you with your passive aggressive attempts (which are very weak by the way) at name calling.

    so again, where is that temporary list of Paleo foods? I just want to see what paleo specific regional diet you are following...

    If you want to see non-paleo food items go check out their diary yesterday. Unless this person thinks those things are Paleo????

    Paleo can be a way to reach a caloric deficit, the caloric deficit is the "secret" to weight loss. Paleo would be a good answer if the OP asked for options of achieving a caloric deficit... then again almost anything would qualify if you counted calories and stayed under maintenance.

    Like I said, I just want to see some of these Paleolithc foods and what region of the world they are from...as we all know, Paleolithic foods were regionally specific. So Paleo man from northern Europe would not of consumed the same foods as say Paleo man from northern Africa....

    For the number of times you've demanded a food list, you could have easily googled and got the information for yourself. That makes it glaringly obvious to everyone here that you don't really want to know the information, rather you just want to badger someone.

    actually, I cannot Google a list because there are about 5000 different versions of Paleo.


    I googled Weston A Price and posted what is on their "rules"...just because I was curious...not sure how this poster can claim to follow it...as their diary indicates they don't.

    They try but it's hard...
    Just stop judging my food diary, k?
    Paleo is a template that people individualize based on their health goals. I'm not saying it's for everyone; I respect whatever makes people feel good and achieve their goals. Paleo/ primal-whatever-you-want-to-call-it has been a helpful tool for me in many regards including weight loss (yes, I know it comes down to a caloric deficit in the end, but there are all sorts of tricks to make achieving that easier). I can eat some dairy without any problems so I'll eat it. I can't do grains, high sugar, or legumes so naturally Paleo blogs and cookbooks provide the best recipes. Weston A Price inspired me to buy organic, make my own bone broth and cultured vegetables (an amazing source of probiotics and a feel-good, low calorie snack).

    No. No it isn't.

    You're not Paleo. That's fine. Just don't tout yourself as following "Paleo" lifestyle when it clearly isn't. You follow some Paleo principles but you're not eating in a Paleo manner.
  • Allelito
    Allelito Posts: 179 Member
    CICO
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    SconnieCat wrote: »
    miriamtob wrote: »
    SezxyStef wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    erickirb wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    miriamtob wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    miriamtob wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    miriamtob wrote: »
    Well, all you did is express how much you disapprove of the philosophy. That's your opinion and fortunately it bears no weight. This could be a productive conversation, if people were generally interested in my original answer, but it has been made into a boring discussion with a lot bullying and badgering by many of the usual suspects. Typical. Bye.

    the bullying train is never late, and that is just a fall back because you don't want to answer questions about paleo.

    sorry but disagreeing with your premise about paleo is not "bullying or bashing". I find it ironic that you are complaining about "badgering" when you were attempting to name call people that called you on paleo being a "secret for weight loss"...

    When you asked a member a question they provided you a direct answer; however, you were asked several times for a list of foods that you ate when doing Paleo and refused to answer....

    I was asked to provide a list, randomly and in a mocking tone. The list of foods one can eat on a Paleo/primal/ancestral/Weston A Price diet like mine is crazy long. It's more about food quality, source, and what one is omitting from their menu. I think feeling better helps with weight loss because you can overcome the fatigue that inhibits activity. So, a deficit is great and a deficit while feeling vibrant is even better!

    how do you know it was mocking? You can read into that based on a typed response?

    oh, and no one wanted a complete list, just a sample, so feel free to provide it....

    Yes, and I've been on the forums enough to know where those types of demands lead: jokes and gifs about cauliflower and further attempts to make the declared paleo person look foolish. It is not helpful. You need to work on your delivery; if your intention is to understand more and not just to make jokes.

    funny, you keep complaining about bashing, but the only one bashing is you with your passive aggressive attempts (which are very weak by the way) at name calling.

    so again, where is that temporary list of Paleo foods? I just want to see what paleo specific regional diet you are following...

    If you want to see non-paleo food items go check out their diary yesterday. Unless this person thinks those things are Paleo????

    Paleo can be a way to reach a caloric deficit, the caloric deficit is the "secret" to weight loss. Paleo would be a good answer if the OP asked for options of achieving a caloric deficit... then again almost anything would qualify if you counted calories and stayed under maintenance.

    Like I said, I just want to see some of these Paleolithc foods and what region of the world they are from...as we all know, Paleolithic foods were regionally specific. So Paleo man from northern Europe would not of consumed the same foods as say Paleo man from northern Africa....

    For the number of times you've demanded a food list, you could have easily googled and got the information for yourself. That makes it glaringly obvious to everyone here that you don't really want to know the information, rather you just want to badger someone.

    actually, I cannot Google a list because there are about 5000 different versions of Paleo.


    I googled Weston A Price and posted what is on their "rules"...just because I was curious...not sure how this poster can claim to follow it...as their diary indicates they don't.

    They try but it's hard...
    Just stop judging my food diary, k?
    Paleo is a template that people individualize based on their health goals. I'm not saying it's for everyone; I respect whatever makes people feel good and achieve their goals. Paleo/ primal-whatever-you-want-to-call-it has been a helpful tool for me in many regards including weight loss (yes, I know it comes down to a caloric deficit in the end, but there are all sorts of tricks to make achieving that easier). I can eat some dairy without any problems so I'll eat it. I can't do grains, high sugar, or legumes so naturally Paleo blogs and cookbooks provide the best recipes. Weston A Price inspired me to buy organic, make my own bone broth and cultured vegetables (an amazing source of probiotics and a feel-good, low calorie snack).

    No. No it isn't.

    You're not Paleo. That's fine. Just don't tout yourself as following "Paleo" lifestyle when it clearly isn't. You follow some Paleo principles but you're not eating in a Paleo manner.

    I am sure @Nony_Mouse would love to detail Paleo in greater detail for us...
  • mojohowitz
    mojohowitz Posts: 900 Member
    Good luck, OP, filtering though all of this.
  • jkal1979
    jkal1979 Posts: 1,896 Member
    Here are some of the things that are working for me.

    1. I set a reasonable calorie goal. With less than 50 pounds to lose I set my weekly weight loss goal for one pound a week to avoid the 1200 trap.

    2. Purchased a digital food scale.

    3. Read the sticky notes on the forums and learned how to use MFP and accurately log.

    4. I'm keeping things simple. No strict food plans, no making things more complicated than they need to be.

    5. Nothing is off limits. Instead I limit the frequency and portion sizes. Knowing that I can have whatever I want when I want makes it a lot less tempting for me to binge on it.

    6. I took personal responsibility for what brought me here. I could blame it on being in a tough situation, but once I realized that I didn't handle things in a healthy manner and found solutions for handling it better in the future I feel more in control.

    7. I experimented with exercise until I found a routine that I enjoy. I no longer exercise just to hit a calorie burn goal and it doesn't feel like a burdensome chore anymore.
  • SconnieCat
    SconnieCat Posts: 770 Member
    jkal1979 wrote: »
    Here are some of the things that are working for me.

    1. I set a reasonable calorie goal. With less than 50 pounds to lose I set my weekly weight loss goal for one pound a week to avoid the 1200 trap.

    2. Purchased a digital food scale.

    3. Read the sticky notes on the forums and learned how to use MFP and accurately log.

    4. I'm keeping things simple. No strict food plans, no making things more complicated than they need to be.

    5. Nothing is off limits. Instead I limit the frequency and portion sizes. Knowing that I can have whatever I want when I want makes it a lot less tempting for me to binge on it.

    6. I took personal responsibility for what brought me here. I could blame it on being in a tough situation, but once I realized that I didn't handle things in a healthy manner and found solutions for handling it better in the future I feel more in control.

    7. I experimented with exercise until I found a routine that I enjoy. I no longer exercise just to hit a calorie burn goal and it doesn't feel like a burdensome chore anymore.

    *slow clap*

    IMO, this is wonderful advice, OP.... if you're still following along ;)
  • psuLemon
    psuLemon Posts: 38,427 MFP Moderator
    I shouldn't be surprised about how these discussions go, but somehow I always am.

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